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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649
    THIRTY MINUTES AND COUNTING! :lol:

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,250
    tyson said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Philip Schofield came out quicker than this...

    Alert...for quick witted one liner of the year award.....
    I saw it on Twitter, then couldn't find it again to paste it...
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    I have been holding on for a pee like I was doing a 4hr drive with coronavirus....

    You mean, you haven't got a milk bottle handy?
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 7,306
    Classic Dom.
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    The fact that this was posted at 4:01pm having any effect on delaying the press conference?
    It looks like that Dom now has stronger story to back him no?

  • Can somebody explain the significance of the Police statement.

    Why does the fact Cummings self-isolated in Durham help, he shouldn't have traveled at all. To me this seems like gaslighting. We're angry because he travelled when others were told not to. The Police stuff is just secondary.
  • BannedinnParisBannedinnParis Posts: 1,884
    MikeL said:

    BBC Daniel Sandford saying Durham police statement helpful to Govt.

    quite.

    someone in the Mirror getting a bollocking tomorrow.

  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818

    Media are just being trolled at this point. Where's Dom?!

    As are the voters. Many people have tuned in to see what he has to say for himself.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 8,890
    Maybe the abdication scene from Richard II is being re-enacted behind the scenes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    TOPPING said:

    ydoethur said:

    TOPPING said:

    Delay = shades of Justine Greening refusing to be sacked by Dave.

    I thought it was Theresa May that she kicked up the fuss with?
    Hmm I think it was Dave in a coalition reshuffle wasn't it?
    Fairly sure this is what you’re thinking of:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/08/theresa-mays-reshuffle-thrown-off-course-by-defiant-ministers
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 18,594
    HYUFD said:

    eadric said:

    Come on Dom, wanna sunbathe

    Cummings is a northerner from rainy, Brexity County Durham.

    I expect he is enjoying deliberately denying rich, metropolitan Remainer Londoners crucial sunbathing time
    Shows how much you know. It does not rain that much here, we are in the rain shadow of the Pennines.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 6,932
    Has Cummins delayed it to get police statement first?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 11,236
    Pulpstar said:

    eadric said:

    The delay is a bad sign

    Who for
    For whom, surely?

    PtPedant
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    Chris said:

    Maybe the abdication scene from Richard II is being re-enacted behind the scenes.

    Could be worse. Could be Macbeth.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,954
    No tie Dom on the way...
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Chris said:

    Maybe the abdication scene from Richard II is being re-enacted behind the scenes.

    Or the demise of Edward II.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Someone got him a shirt!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 41,913
    Here we go!
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 23,162

    Chris said:

    What do people think this stuff about "security issues" is? Concern that word had got out that Cummings was there, and what to do if the press got wind of it?
    Could have been perfectly routine stuff about window locks etc.
    Worth noting that nowhere in that statement does it say that the police were told that Cummings, wife and child had come from London to self-isolate.

    The police came to our property to speak to a representative of the owner to find out if he was breaching the rules on holiday lets. They left when they were told that this was a long-term tenancy. They did not ask where we had been beforehand.

    It is possible that re the Cummings family and their interactions with the police the question of travel to the property did not arise at all.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 21,511
    "I told the Prime Minister what I did and he's asked me to reiterate this directly to you". Wow, it really is Fuck You I won't do what you tell me
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 19,583
    edited May 2020
    Alarm going off is it the bullshit alarm!!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 55,081
    Idiots trying to drown him out
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    Here's the PM
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649
    No reason given for his tardiness!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 105,262
    Cummings now speaking in No 10 garden giving a personal account of what happened
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,547

    Can somebody explain the significance of the Police statement.

    Why does the fact Cummings self-isolated in Durham help, he shouldn't have traveled at all. To me this seems like gaslighting. We're angry because he travelled when others were told not to. The Police stuff is just secondary.

    The fact that they 'offered no specific advice' and decided that 'no further action was required' suggests they were quite happy with the explanation from Cummings Snr.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 8,890
    MikeL said:

    BBC Daniel Sandford saying Durham police statement helpful to Govt.

    I would have thought it only underlined the narrative about Cummings being treated differently from other people. I could never work out why the police hadn't even spoken to him directly.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    He’s trying to explain himself. Almost certainly not resigning.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 23,162

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    There are many fine things to see in or near Barnard Castle: the castle itself, the Bowes Museum, Egglestone Abbey, Raby Castle etc. Unfortunately all closed.

    So why was Cummings there?

    You dont know that. Afaik it us only an allegation.
    His car - or one he uses - was verified as having been there.
    So what. You are not judge nor jury..
    I have never claimed to be. I note though that there has been obfuscation around this aspect of the story.

    This is potentially more significant, for 2 reasons:-

    1. There may well have been a reasonable excuse for the initial dash up home with sick family.
    2. But a wander around town some time later? What was the reason for that? No firm denial and no clear explanation either. He may well not have been doing anything criminal at all but doing something which, for whatever reason, the government does not want us to know about.

    I am curious as to whether that might be what is happening here and why Boris is putting so much effort into fighting for his advisor. I am also curious about what this “something” might be and why it is being kept secret.

    Of course I may be wrong.

    I simply note the coincidence of there being a GSK plant at Barnard Castle, GSK’s public statements about the work they are doing on developing a vaccine and the fact that Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s CSO, was a former president of R&D at GSK between 2012 - 2018.

    Were there - possibly - meetings going on which for some reason the government does not want to admit to? If so, why?
    You were hinting at his guilt.
    No. I have said that it was arguable as to whether he breached the regulations as opposed to not complying with the guidance.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 8,890

    Chris said:

    Maybe the abdication scene from Richard II is being re-enacted behind the scenes.

    Or the demise of Edward II.
    Ouch! Poor Boris.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 18,497
    Is Boris playing a child's trumpet in the background for a laugh?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 55,081

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    They are only helping him
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,954
    Big Dom is billy no mates in London.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 18,594
    There’s nothing new here, it’s the same old dross.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 19,583
    Never been tested for Covid
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    They are only helping him
    I thought it was building work noise when I first heard it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    Whoever that twat is, please throw them in the Thames. Really annoying.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    They are only helping him
    Yep.
  • TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052

    There’s nothing new here, it’s the same old dross.

    Those drossy facts and no hill of beans.

    Titter.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 23,162
    MikeL said:

    BBC Daniel Sandford saying Durham police statement helpful to Govt.

    It doesn’t deal with the question of travel to the property at all. And it is the travel which is the issue under the regulations.

    Whatever happens now, the government has been wounded. How much and how long for is another question.
  • This doesn't sound very convincing.

    Agree about the Klaxon.
  • Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    They are only helping him
    That's why he is doing it in the rose garden, instead of indoors?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 20,066
    Is there a Dominic Cummings fan club?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 55,081
    ydoethur said:

    Alarm going off

    Twats trying to drown him out.
    Whoever that twat is, please throw them in the Thames. Really annoying.
    I hope they are called out
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Never dig straight down in Minecraft.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 28,250
    Already admitted one breach of quarantine.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,879
    Claiming Boris didn't know then.
  • But he's already admitted he broke the rules...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    None of this is new and none of this exculpates him. Literally thousands of people have bene through this and had to stay put. He genuinely seems to think his judgement overrides the rules.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 18,497
    Dom doing much, much better than Boris did yesterday.

    I almost believe him.
  • humbuggerhumbugger Posts: 377
    ydoethur said:

    None of this is new and none of this exculpates him. Literally thousands of people have bene through this and had to stay put. He genuinely seems to think his judgement overrides the rules.

    Nothing new eh?
  • I can't help but think this shows an unbelievable level of arrogance.

    What is unique about his situation?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,954
    edited May 2020
    Amazing how this story didn't get out before given his family ended up in hospital.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 18,594
    This is all boo hoo look at me. Millions of people have had to deal with this.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    I'm afraid he's broken quarantine clear as the sun rises in the east.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649
    ydoethur said:

    None of this is new and none of this exculpates him. Literally thousands of people have bene through this and had to stay put. He genuinely seems to think his judgement overrides the rules.

    "Do as I say, not as I do!"
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    There is nothing new in this. He is sticking to the same story. What is the point of all this?
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850

    Amazing how this story didn't get out before given his family ended up in hospital.

    His wife and son did, he entered hospital at no point.
  • Wut, he returned to work with COVID symptoms?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    That's another breach of quarantine.
  • TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    eadric said:

    OK the kid went to hospital

    YEAH BUT BREXIT !!

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    humbugger said:

    ydoethur said:

    None of this is new and none of this exculpates him. Literally thousands of people have bene through this and had to stay put. He genuinely seems to think his judgement overrides the rules.

    Nothing new eh?
    No. It’s the same old, delivered in his voice.

    Or do you think this is new? If so, how?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 18,497
    My Tory wife keeps saying 'what a load of bollocks'!
  • I have sympathy for him and the situation his son has been in, I really do.

    But I just don't think that excludes him.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 18,594
    So they made a non-essential journey to Barnard Castle. Fascinating.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    It's very honest but he's certainly broken quarantine.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649

    Dom doing much, much better than Boris did yesterday.

    I almost believe him.

    TBH it's the first time heard him speak.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    So they did go for a walk in the woods.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,879
    So he went to Barnard Castle but only for the drive.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    Now he’s admitting visiting Barnard Castle while still ill.

    This is a disaster, what the fuck is he thinking?
  • He has sabotaged himself...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649

    So they made a non-essential journey to Barnard Castle. Fascinating.

    It was just to see if he could see properly!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757
    I could claim this level of isolation on any of my runs. This is all fine for isolation, but not quarantine ><
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 55,081
    He did not return and he can prove it is false

    Not looking good for the Guardian and Mirror
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 55,103
    So the kid doesn't need a piss for 5 hours on A1, but did need a piss after a quick run down to Barnard Castle.

    Crock of shit.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 105,262
    His brother in law died of Covid and none of the family attended his funeral
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    A TEST DRIVE??????
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 4,850

    My Tory wife keeps saying 'what a load of bollocks'!

    Well stop talking then...
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 21,511
    Pity that this is a political problem not a legal problem
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,954
    edited May 2020

    This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    If he had stepped down, given this statement, he would have been back in 3-6 months, and probably got a fair bit of sympathy and Boris would have looked good for sticking to the rules being the same for everybody.
  • "I respectfully disagree"

    Okay Dom I wish I had an estate I could drive to
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903
    Now he’s accusing his mother of lying.

    Good grief.

    This is a disaster.

    Yes, many people say you should have stayed at home. Starting with the government’s own guidance.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 41,913
    He's coming across as terribly reasonable.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 72,757

    This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    He's broken quarantine. Undoubtedly.
  • This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    Indeed.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 8,374
    He'll keep his job but this will not repair any damage done already to the Govt.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    He's admitted to multiple breaches of law and guidance, so far as I can see. As you say, if he'd been contrite and explained the extenuating circumstances, he might have been forgiven.

    As things stand, he's damaged the government hugely.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 8,890
    ydoethur said:

    Now he’s admitting visiting Barnard Castle while still ill.

    This is a disaster, what the fuck is he thinking?

    Given the timescale, it's always seemed possible he would still have been infectious then. I had assumed he was at least over the symptoms though.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 54,903

    This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    He's admitted to multiple breaches of law and guidance, so far as I can see. As you say, if he'd been contrite and explained the extenuating circumstances, he might have been forgiven.

    As things stand, he's damaged the government hugely.
    If he’s prosecuted, he’d better hope this ain’t played in court. That comment on accountability would send a jury round the twist.
  • BannedinnParisBannedinnParis Posts: 1,884

    This explanation would have worked if it had been given immediately along with a bit of contrition, perhaps.

    but then we wouldn't have had the big screen outside his house, the absolute nadir of this crisis so far.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 42,649

    "I respectfully disagree"

    Okay Dom I wish I had an estate I could drive to

    Yes, I did notice a wee bit of humblebragging!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 72,954
    Its very weird look with him sitting at a table and the journalists having to come up to a mic.
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