The role of Govt. in this is quite horrifying. Trashing businesses. Started 2008, on Labour's watch. Carried on through the Coalition, so no party political point-scoring.
One of the main revelations of last night's excellent BBC programme on the subject was the genuine sadness amongst the EU representatives when the referendum result came through. I was also surprised at just how much flexibility that had shown in their negotiations with Cameron. They were genuinely trying to help him.
I agree with the sadness bit. Though the reasons for that sadness were not perhaps what you thought they were. I disagree entirely on the question of their flexibility. They gave away nothing at all. Not that they necessarily should have done but they certainly didn't help Cameron and the overriding impression they gave was one of annoyance with democracy in action.
One of the main revelations of last night's excellent BBC programme on the subject was the genuine sadness amongst the EU representatives when the referendum result came through. I was also surprised at just how much flexibility that had shown in their negotiations with Cameron. They were genuinely trying to help him.
I agree with the sadness bit. Though the reasons for that sadness were not perhaps what you thought they were. I disagree entirely on the question of their flexibility. They gave away nothing at all. Not that they necessarily should have done but they certainly didn't help Cameron and the overriding impression they gave was one of annoyance with democracy in action.
Cameron made mistake after mistake after mistake. Leaving the EPP was a costly error, with no upside.
Caroline Lucas has just used my "pointing a gun at your own head" analogy.
EDIT: Here it is again in full
My analogy is a person pointing a gun at their own head and threatening to pull the trigger and spatter the other side with blood if they don't get their own way. They are probably bluffing but they might not be, or might accidentally pull the trigger, particularly as some who are not in the line of fire are egging them on. Letwin believes it is reckless behaviour and not to be tolerated.
One of the main revelations of last night's excellent BBC programme on the subject was the genuine sadness amongst the EU representatives when the referendum result came through. I was also surprised at just how much flexibility that had shown in their negotiations with Cameron. They were genuinely trying to help him.
I agree with the sadness bit. Though the reasons for that sadness were not perhaps what you thought they were. I disagree entirely on the question of their flexibility. They gave away nothing at all. Not that they necessarily should have done but they certainly didn't help Cameron and the overriding impression they gave was one of annoyance with democracy in action.
Indeed. I was a Remain supporter throughout the negotiations I know a number of other people who switched in part due to the negotiations failure.
The comments the other day were Tusk smugly said how he had told Cameron the referendum was a mistake was very hubristic.
If she’d taken the Chiltern Hundreds when she was convicted, Peterborough might have had an MP to represent them tonight. Even Chris Huhne was honourable enough to do that.
(Edit. Or this is a joke, and the correct answer is that she should get her brother to do it for her, or maybe the Russian tenant?).
Caroline Lucas has just used my "pointing a gun at your own head" analogy.
EDIT: Here it is again in full
My analogy is a person pointing a gun at their own head and threatening to pull the trigger and spatter the other side with blood if they don't get their own way. They are probably bluffing but they might not be, or might accidentally pull the trigger, particularly as some who are not in the line of fire are egging them on. Letwin believes it is reckless behaviour and not to be tolerated.
One of the main revelations of last night's excellent BBC programme on the subject was the genuine sadness amongst the EU representatives when the referendum result came through. I was also surprised at just how much flexibility that had shown in their negotiations with Cameron. They were genuinely trying to help him.
I agree with the sadness bit. Though the reasons for that sadness were not perhaps what you thought they were. I disagree entirely on the question of their flexibility. They gave away nothing at all. Not that they necessarily should have done but they certainly didn't help Cameron and the overriding impression they gave was one of annoyance with democracy in action.
Indeed. I was a Remain supporter throughout the negotiations I know a number of other people who switched in part due to the negotiations failure.
The comments the other day were Tusk smugly said how he had told Cameron the referendum was a mistake was very hubristic.
One of the main revelations of last night's excellent BBC programme on the subject was the genuine sadness amongst the EU representatives when the referendum result came through. I was also surprised at just how much flexibility that had shown in their negotiations with Cameron. They were genuinely trying to help him.
I agree with the sadness bit. Though the reasons for that sadness were not perhaps what you thought they were. I disagree entirely on the question of their flexibility. They gave away nothing at all. Not that they necessarily should have done but they certainly didn't help Cameron and the overriding impression they gave was one of annoyance with democracy in action.
Indeed. I was a Remain supporter throughout the negotiations I know a number of other people who switched in part due to the negotiations failure.
The comments the other day were Tusk smugly said how he had told Cameron the referendum was a mistake was very hubristic.
This really is a ridiculous way of conducting Parliamentary business. Not too bad when you have one big vote, but when you have 7 ......... jeez it's slow.
This really is a ridiculous way of conducting Parliamentary business. Not too bad when you have one big vote, but when you have 7 ......... jeez it's slow.
And there’s more than another hour of it to go. 14 minutes between divisions so far.
This really is a ridiculous way of conducting Parliamentary business. Not too bad when you have one big vote, but when you have 7 ......... jeez it's slow.
They have the time. Brexit may not have much time, but taking 15-20 minutes to vote on a measure, however slow, is not going to affect anything.
It's actually quite clever. They're subcontracting their entire job function back to their employers whilst keeping their salary and getting their employers to pay them for the privilege.
This reminds me of when the Commons was voting on Lords reform a few year ago. There were about 10 different options and they were all rejected, even though a majority of MPs favoured change of some type.
This reminds me of when the Commons was voting on Lords reform a few year ago. There were about 10 different options and they were all rejected, even though a majority of MPs favoured change of some type
Different that these ones, as a few did get support in the commons at least?
The key is the Cabinet, plenty of whom and senior Ministers oppose No Deal, if they had resigned and voted for Grieve it would have passed, as may also be the case with Cooper.
Though if Cooper amendment passes it will likely be back again
We have been joking about Peterborough MP but it could actually come down to 310-311
What happens if its 310-310???
Bercow decides
But by convention he votes to keep the status quo so would presumably vote No
He doesn't like precedent and has openly admitted not thinking about longer term consequences to not following it. He would probably follow convention in the event of a tie, but his temperament suggests there is the possibility he would do otherwise.
If any of our learned friends are in how on earth did Onasanya get 3 months - with the texting as well - when her brother got 10 months when pleading guilty?
If any of our learned friends are in how on earth did Onasanya get 3 months - with the texting as well - when her brother got 10 months when pleading guilty?
If any of our learned friends are in how on earth did Onasanya get 3 months - with the texting as well - when her brother got 10 months when pleading guilty?
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/29/amendments-to-may-statement-brexit-bill
TIA.
Must say Bercow has a good set of lungs on him.
The comments the other day were Tusk smugly said how he had told Cameron the referendum was a mistake was very hubristic.
(Edit. Or this is a joke, and the correct answer is that she should get her brother to do it for her, or maybe the Russian tenant?).
I don’t like people using violent analogies for political discourse. It debases us all
Grieve amendment up now
Holby on record
Robert @rcs1000 should add the Commons to CrowdScores
Talking of which - ladies, an Earth-sized diamond!
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2014/06/remarkable-white-dwarf-star-possibly-coldest-dimmest-ever-detected
Votes for 301
Votes Against 321
Though if Cooper amendment passes it will likely be back again
What happens if its 310-310???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_House_of_Lords#Votes_of_March_2007
How can it not pass then?
I wonder if you could look out for abstainers on Parliament TV and get a clue from that.
A picture in my head will compound my financial loss
Although worst case is now -80
That is unlikely to happen unless No Dealers fear BINO or EUref2 unless the Deal passes
Oh.