@patrick_kidd: Prediction: Boris becomes PM, re-rats and takes Britain back into the EU.
He couldn't take the party with him on that even if he wanted.
Nor could he take the EU with him on that. Fact is, we're leaving the EU. The EEA (soft Brexit) is probably not going to be an option. We need someone who will face up to the mess the country has put itself into and deals with it as best he or she can.
I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.
Thank fuck.
Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.
Yes, I think we're looking at 330 seats, but May is done. Literally fucking done.
Seems like you are not happy !
I'll be happy if we get to 320 seats by tomorrow morning and Theresa May is gone by Monday, plus an EEA/EFTA Brexit. Would be the ideal result for me personally because I don't think hard Brexit is optimal.
I hadn't been planning on staying up tonight, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at the moment. I guess I got caught up with all the "optimism on here and was expecting the Conservatives to be looking at a comfortable 80-100 seat majority.
But, thinking about it, of course people are going to vote for a big bag of sweeties that someone else is going to pay rather than ... well, what exactly? A chance of losing your home if you are unlucky enough to get dementia (at least, that was how it came across) and... oh yes. Fox hunting.
Not a single person has mentioned fox hunting to me. Anywhere.
It's the free sweeties and exhaustion with austerity.
That's because you are sadistic fox hunting psycho comrade
I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.
What a mess.
Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
Yebbut Dave called the referendum, thinking he would win. Just like Theresa did with this year's election.
I feel sorry for both Cameron and May, both capable politicians, both backed Remain both screwed by the current volatility and mood of the electorate, ie anti austerity, anti globalisation, anti immigration etc
No need to feel sorry for either of them.
Cameron backed himself into a corner willingly. May is just completely crap.
Cameron gave the voters the EU referendum they wanted, May took a tough decision on social care which cost her electorally but still recognises social care has to be paid for. She also tried to give voters the immigration controls and reclaimed sovereignty from the EU they seemed to want to vote for to. Being PM is an impossible job at the moment, the voters clearly don't know want they want and if it is soft Brexit they will still complain then
If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.
I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.
Thank fuck.
Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.
Yes, I think we're looking at 330 seats, but May is done. Literally fucking done.
Seems like you are not happy !
I'll be happy if we get to 320 seats by tomorrow morning and Theresa May is gone by Monday, plus an EEA/EFTA Brexit. Would be the ideal result for me personally because I don't think hard Brexit is optimal.
To be honest, Max, it wouldn't surprised me if Brexit is kicked into the long grass now. All the EU27 have to do is vote unanimously to extend the A50 period indefinitely, or for 5-10 years, and do a new treaty with the UK, perhaps generously putting Dave's deal back on the table again.
Any ideas how the fixed term parliament act works in a hung parliament? If the conservatives dont get a majority , do labour get a cgance to put up a queens speech?
May is still PM for now, and largest party would probably get first go.
Leader of largest party gets first go, if he/she can't assure HMQ that speech will be passed, next most plausible leader gets to try. If nobody can command confidence of the house it's another GE. Jez vs May's successor I guess.
I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.
What a mess.
Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
Yebbut Dave called the referendum, thinking he would win. Just like Theresa did with this year's election.
I feel sorry for both Cameron and May, both capable politicians, both backed Remain both screwed by the current volatility and mood of the electorate, ie anti austerity, anti globalisation, anti immigration etc
No need to feel sorry for either of them.
Cameron backed himself into a corner willingly. May is just completely crap.
Hubris, in both cases.
"I'll try to sell a crap deal to the electorate because they'll never vote to leave" "I'll call an election because no one will ever elect Corbyn".
Conservative seats falling across the country. Labour largest party
Looks like.
Jeremy Corbyn could be our Prime Minister tomorrow. The Jeremy Corbyn. Like Southam, the country has become a foreign land to me, I didn't see this (even though I was always among the more optimistic for Labour), and I don't understand it.
I may be off PB for a bit to recover from PM Corbyn, but I'll be back.
If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.
There's not even any students in Shipley.
Lots of expensive houses and rich oldies for dementia and WFA worries.
I hadn't been planning on staying up tonight, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at the moment. I guess I got caught up with all the "optimism on here and was expecting the Conservatives to be looking at a comfortable 80-100 seat majority.
But, thinking about it, of course people are going to vote for a big bag of sweeties that someone else is going to pay rather than ... well, what exactly? A chance of losing your home if you are unlucky enough to get dementia (at least, that was how it came across) and... oh yes. Fox hunting.
Not a single person has mentioned fox hunting to me. Anywhere.
It's the free sweeties and exhaustion with austerity.
That's because you are sadistic fox hunting psycho comrade
It appears that the expected Conservative gains in the North are not materialising, but unexpected Labour gains in London and the South are. If bourne out, then it would seem a majority is unlikely.
If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.
There's not even any students in Shipley.
Lots of expensive houses and rich oldies for dementia and WFA worries.
It was keeping the WFA for Scotland that I said was huge mistake.
I knew how badly the concept of sending money to Scotland in 2015 went down in Yorkshire.
Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.
He's a Tory through and through, he's seen his hard work undone by a useless twat who isn't fit to lick his boots
He sounds very reasonable.
He's also right.
'Conservative' leavers may need to take a good look at themselves in the morning.
As someone who was one at the time, and is now neither. From where the Con party was left after the vote, they took every wrong decision possible. The fucking idiots.
It appears that the expected Conservative gains in the North are not materialising, but unexpected Labour gains in London and the South are. If bourne out, then it would seem a majority is unlikely.
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Anyway, off to bed.
Heading towards Labour minority if all these rumours are true.
Barrow & Furness.
BUT
We haven't seen any results from LD friendly seats yet.
UKIP 1180
Lab 22681
Cons 19401
Lab hold
No swing either way
"I'll try to sell a crap deal to the electorate because they'll never vote to leave"
"I'll call an election because no one will ever elect Corbyn".
Fuck.
Jeremy Corbyn could be our Prime Minister tomorrow. The Jeremy Corbyn. Like Southam, the country has become a foreign land to me, I didn't see this (even though I was always among the more optimistic for Labour), and I don't understand it.
I may be off PB for a bit to recover from PM Corbyn, but I'll be back.
The Tory gains are coming nowhere. Only Scotland, which will just help to offset some of the shocking defeats in the south.
Lots of expensive houses and rich oldies for dementia and WFA worries.
He's also right.
'Conservative' leavers may need to take a good look at themselves in the morning.
Corbyn will be PM.
I knew how badly the concept of sending money to Scotland in 2015 went down in Yorkshire.
Lab +7.7
Con +8.1
FFS
Darlington LAB HOLD.