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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    AndyJS said:

    Small but significant swing to the Tories in Workington.

    Why significant?
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,342
    This election is looking like the Revenge of the Remainers
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902

    I hope we don't have another GE this year.

    Please.

    We are, almost unforeseeable that we don't.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Can somebody explain how the Conservatives could lose Shipley under any scenario?
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,837
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @patrick_kidd: Prediction: Boris becomes PM, re-rats and takes Britain back into the EU.

    He couldn't take the party with him on that even if he wanted.
    Nor could he take the EU with him on that. Fact is, we're leaving the EU. The EEA (soft Brexit) is probably not going to be an option. We need someone who will face up to the mess the country has put itself into and deals with it as best he or she can.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,808
    kle4 said:

    A lot less 'this exit poll is bollocks' stuff now I see.

    I said from the start the exit poll was accurate, and the Tories would be on its downside.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,667
    surbiton said:

    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.

    Thank fuck.

    Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.

    Yes, I think we're looking at 330 seats, but May is done. Literally fucking done.
    Seems like you are not happy !
    I'll be happy if we get to 320 seats by tomorrow morning and Theresa May is gone by Monday, plus an EEA/EFTA Brexit. Would be the ideal result for me personally because I don't think hard Brexit is optimal.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Labour think they've won Colne Valley, but Tories confident in Dewsbury.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,028
    Mr. kle4, I'm both depressed and disturbed that a self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah might get close or even into Number Ten.

    Anyway, off to bed.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    jonny83 said:

    Don't know whether it is too many snacks or the results so far, but I feel sick.

    I haven't eaten in 10 hours, but I have no appetite.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited June 2017
    Justine Greening in trouble!!! She has a 10k majority.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Con set to lose Colne Valley.

    Heading towards Labour minority if all these rumours are true.
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    so far, about 12 likely Lab gains.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    kle4 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Small but significant swing to the Tories in Workington.

    Why significant?
    Lancaster & Wyre.
    Barrow & Furness.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    If Lab are surging in the south, LDs are never recovering their position as natural anti-Tory vote down here.
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    The young eh, what are they like, the bastards.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    The country is going to be in entire chaos
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Chameleon said:

    I hope we don't have another GE this year.

    Please.

    We are, almost unforeseeable that we don't.
    Yep
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    Danny565 said:

    Justine Greening in trouble!!!

    Majority of 10k!
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,451
    Conservative seats falling across the country. Labour largest party
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    maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,391
    camel said:

    Line from the severn to the wash separates two different countries.

    And it's the much maligned Brexit backing North voting for a vaguely sensible party whilst the South swings to the nutters.
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Darlington bishop Auckland are looking huge
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    El_SidEl_Sid Posts: 145
    EPG said:

    his lovely wife, that would have shafted his party

    Very liberal
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052

    LucyJones said:

    I hadn't been planning on staying up tonight, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at the moment. I guess I got caught up with all the "optimism on here and was expecting the Conservatives to be looking at a comfortable 80-100 seat majority.

    But, thinking about it, of course people are going to vote for a big bag of sweeties that someone else is going to pay rather than ... well, what exactly? A chance of losing your home if you are unlucky enough to get dementia (at least, that was how it came across) and... oh yes. Fox hunting.

    Not a single person has mentioned fox hunting to me. Anywhere.

    It's the free sweeties and exhaustion with austerity.
    That's because you are sadistic fox hunting psycho comrade
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,986
    Well, I look like being proved wrong on just about everything except how utterly crap Theresa May is. This country is a foreign land.
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,342
    Osborne laying into May on ITV
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,451
    alex. said:

    Can somebody explain how the Conservatives could lose Shipley under any scenario?

    1997.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Chameleon said:

    I hope we don't have another GE this year.

    Please.

    We are, almost unforeseeable that we don't.
    No. I can't deal with all these bloody GEs.

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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    OUT said:

    The young eh, what are they like, the bastards.

    The scamps!
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    I'm going to bed.

    I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.

    What a mess.

    Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
    Yebbut Dave called the referendum, thinking he would win. Just like Theresa did with this year's election.
    I feel sorry for both Cameron and May, both capable politicians, both backed Remain both screwed by the current volatility and mood of the electorate, ie anti austerity, anti globalisation, anti immigration etc
    No need to feel sorry for either of them.

    Cameron backed himself into a corner willingly. May is just completely crap.
    Cameron gave the voters the EU referendum they wanted, May took a tough decision on social care which cost her electorally but still recognises social care has to be paid for. She also tried to give voters the immigration controls and reclaimed sovereignty from the EU they seemed to want to vote for to. Being PM is an impossible job at the moment, the voters clearly don't know want they want and if it is soft Brexit they will still complain then
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    If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Emma Double Surname hold South Shields
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,077
    Is anyone else getting the impression that maybe the EU referendum wasn't a very good idea?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,211
    I'm think the LDs will end up on 10-ish, with probably half of those in Scotland.

    BUT

    We haven't seen any results from LD friendly seats yet.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,667

    Conservative seats falling across the country. Labour largest party

    I doubt that.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    So, how do Leavers feel about the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn PM? Would they now prefer to be still in the EU with David Cameron as Prime Minister?
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour MP in Darlington looks happy.
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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    Darlington guy screwed up. He said May rather than June!
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,926
    Osborne tearing into May
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Osborne is right
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902

    Chameleon said:

    I hope we don't have another GE this year.

    Please.

    We are, almost unforeseeable that we don't.
    No. I can't deal with all these bloody GEs.

    Agreed, especially when they're all more or less going to screw us.
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    The country is going to be in entire chaos

    ..as it would have been once a Hard Brexit had met with its full effects.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    edited June 2017
    Darlington
    UKIP 1180
    Lab 22681
    Cons 19401
    Lab hold

    No swing either way
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,506
    George is really screwing that knife round and round. Its hilarious but it also shows what we have lost.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,117
    Labour win Darlo.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    No swing at all in Darlington. 0.2% to Tories.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,451
    Chameleon said:

    I hope we don't have another GE this year.

    Please.

    We are, almost unforeseeable that we don't.
    If we do, the government, whoever it is, will consolidate.
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    EDW20000EDW20000 Posts: 138
    Call me Dave, the man who ruined Britain.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,188
    Labour hold Darlington....not falling to the blues
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,808
    MaxPB said:

    surbiton said:

    MaxPB said:

    SeanT said:

    I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.

    Thank fuck.

    Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.

    Yes, I think we're looking at 330 seats, but May is done. Literally fucking done.
    Seems like you are not happy !
    I'll be happy if we get to 320 seats by tomorrow morning and Theresa May is gone by Monday, plus an EEA/EFTA Brexit. Would be the ideal result for me personally because I don't think hard Brexit is optimal.
    To be honest, Max, it wouldn't surprised me if Brexit is kicked into the long grass now. All the EU27 have to do is vote unanimously to extend the A50 period indefinitely, or for 5-10 years, and do a new treaty with the UK, perhaps generously putting Dave's deal back on the table again.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    So, how do Leavers feel about the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn PM? Would they now prefer to be still in the EU with David Cameron as Prime Minister?

    Yep - honestly, yep
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,689
    Chameleon said:

    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.

    He's a Tory through and through, he's seen his hard work undone by a useless twat who isn't fit to lick his boots
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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    kle4 said:

    spire2 said:

    Any ideas how the fixed term parliament act works in a hung parliament? If the conservatives dont get a majority , do labour get a cgance to put up a queens speech?

    May is still PM for now, and largest party would probably get first go.
    Leader of largest party gets first go, if he/she can't assure HMQ that speech will be passed, next most plausible leader gets to try. If nobody can command confidence of the house it's another GE. Jez vs May's successor I guess.
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,926

    So, how do Leavers feel about the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn PM? Would they now prefer to be still in the EU with David Cameron as Prime Minister?

    Or indeed Ed Miliband?
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Darlington labour hold fucking get in
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    LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651
    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    I'm going to bed.

    I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.

    What a mess.

    Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
    Yebbut Dave called the referendum, thinking he would win. Just like Theresa did with this year's election.
    I feel sorry for both Cameron and May, both capable politicians, both backed Remain both screwed by the current volatility and mood of the electorate, ie anti austerity, anti globalisation, anti immigration etc
    No need to feel sorry for either of them.

    Cameron backed himself into a corner willingly. May is just completely crap.
    Hubris, in both cases.

    "I'll try to sell a crap deal to the electorate because they'll never vote to leave"
    "I'll call an election because no one will ever elect Corbyn".

    Fuck.

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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    HYUFD said:

    Darlington
    UKIP 1180
    Lab 22681
    Cons 19401
    Lab hold

    Yup, Con on downside of exit poll.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883
    No Darlington for the Tories
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    Conservative seats falling across the country. Labour largest party

    Looks like.

    Jeremy Corbyn could be our Prime Minister tomorrow. The Jeremy Corbyn. Like Southam, the country has become a foreign land to me, I didn't see this (even though I was always among the more optimistic for Labour), and I don't understand it.

    I may be off PB for a bit to recover from PM Corbyn, but I'll be back.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Jenny Chapman looks stunned to have won. Bless.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    GO should mention that he works for a paper.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,048
    AndyJS said:

    13 results in:

    Middlesbrough
    Workington
    Basildon
    Swindon North
    Sunderland x3
    Newcastle x3
    Broxbourne
    Kettering

    That's 12. Which one am I missing?

    Nuneaton
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Labour hold Darlington.

    The Tory gains are coming nowhere. Only Scotland, which will just help to offset some of the shocking defeats in the south.

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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574

    Mr. kle4, I'm both depressed and disturbed that a self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah might get close or even into Number Ten.

    Anyway, off to bed.

    The Tories relying on such dated knocking copy, rather than troubling us with any vision of their own, is part of the explanation for tonight.
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    TypoTypo Posts: 195
    Holding Darlington is the Tories done I think.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,148
    Quick question. Is Labour most seats possible at this point?
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,154

    If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.

    There's not even any students in Shipley.

    Lots of expensive houses and rich oldies for dementia and WFA worries.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,930
    tyson said:

    LucyJones said:

    I hadn't been planning on staying up tonight, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at the moment. I guess I got caught up with all the "optimism on here and was expecting the Conservatives to be looking at a comfortable 80-100 seat majority.

    But, thinking about it, of course people are going to vote for a big bag of sweeties that someone else is going to pay rather than ... well, what exactly? A chance of losing your home if you are unlucky enough to get dementia (at least, that was how it came across) and... oh yes. Fox hunting.

    Not a single person has mentioned fox hunting to me. Anywhere.

    It's the free sweeties and exhaustion with austerity.
    That's because you are sadistic fox hunting psycho comrade
    Hi tyson!
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    CiceroCicero Posts: 2,313

    I'm sorry I don't have the energy for another general election or EU related referendum in the next 5 years

    Wel, looks like both within 3 years anyway.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902

    Chameleon said:

    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.

    He's a Tory through and through, he's seen his hard work undone by a useless twat who isn't fit to lick his boots
    The worse thing is that the replacements don't look any better.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,942
    Chameleon said:

    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.

    Give over he loves it. ;)
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,667
    Failure to take Darlington.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    Darlington not even close.
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Corbyn was in Aberconwy yesterday and BBC say they've gained it.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,201

    Chameleon said:

    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.

    He's a Tory through and through, he's seen his hard work undone by a useless twat who isn't fit to lick his boots
    He sounds very reasonable.

    He's also right.

    'Conservative' leavers may need to take a good look at themselves in the morning.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,451
    Aberconwy gone - my MP - labour in government
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,808

    Labour hold Darlington.

    The Tory gains are coming nowhere. Only Scotland, which will just help to offset some of the shocking defeats in the south.

    The Tories won't make any gains.

    Corbyn will be PM.
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    EDW20000EDW20000 Posts: 138
    Con OM zero chance now.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Darlington better than YouGov.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    Looking very 45/40-ish.

    Who will be on 45?
    Con.
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,312
    It's looking more and more like labour has squeezed the libs and greens and tories have squeezed ukip. #WeAreGoingNowhere
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,958
    I'm disagreeing with Pong. I don't think it'll be NOM....
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    AHMatlockAHMatlock Posts: 15
    It appears that the expected Conservative gains in the North are not materialising, but unexpected Labour gains in London and the South are. If bourne out, then it would seem a majority is unlikely.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    Curtice said a fractional swing to Tories in Darlington and doing slightly better than exit poll there
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    So, how do Leavers feel about the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn PM? Would they now prefer to be still in the EU with David Cameron as Prime Minister?

    Yes. Leaving was always a risk, and it has proven as bad as the remainers said.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    The country is going to be in entire chaos

    It's possible the Tories end up with the same sort of majority they had before the election.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,689

    If Philip Davies is in deep trouble in Shipley (majority 9600), then the Tories really are doomed. The exit poll is wrong. It has underestimated the swing to Labour. Corbyn could emerge as the leader of the biggest party.

    There's not even any students in Shipley.

    Lots of expensive houses and rich oldies for dementia and WFA worries.
    It was keeping the WFA for Scotland that I said was huge mistake.

    I knew how badly the concept of sending money to Scotland in 2015 went down in Yorkshire.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    rcs1000 said:

    I'm think the LDs will end up on 10-ish, with probably half of those in Scotland.

    BUT

    We haven't seen any results from LD friendly seats yet.

    One of those seats appears to be Vauxhall. I'm sure you're pleased to hear that.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Darlington

    Lab +7.7
    Con +8.1
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902

    Chameleon said:

    Osbourne looking very downbeat. Sounding even more downbeat.

    He's a Tory through and through, he's seen his hard work undone by a useless twat who isn't fit to lick his boots
    He sounds very reasonable.

    He's also right.

    'Conservative' leavers may need to take a good look at themselves in the morning.
    As someone who was one at the time, and is now neither. From where the Con party was left after the vote, they took every wrong decision possible. The fucking idiots.
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Jenny Chapman labour movement for Darlington crying can't believe it
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    EDW20000EDW20000 Posts: 138
    Corbyn is PM
    FFS
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052
    AHMatlock said:

    It appears that the expected Conservative gains in the North are not materialising, but unexpected Labour gains in London and the South are. If bourne out, then it would seem a majority is unlikely.

    well done Sherlock
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,201
    EDW20000 said:

    Call me Dave, the man who ruined Britain.

    Forced into it by the Europhobic loons within his own party.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    Darlington 0.2$ Lab to Con swing.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    Chameleon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Darlington
    UKIP 1180
    Lab 22681
    Cons 19401
    Lab hold

    Yup, Con on downside of exit poll.
    No, Curtice said Tories did slightly better than exit poll there even if they did not win it
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,451
    surbiton said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    SeanT said:

    I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.

    Thank fuck.

    Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.

    No new election. We've had enough - minority government and fight for every vote.
    And Brexit? Whither May's ridiculous Hard Brexit?
    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    SeanT said:

    I still don't see any route from here to a Corbyn premiership.

    Thank fuck.

    Tory NOM, Boris, Faron or Hammond, as PM, a rethink on Hard Brexit, a new election in October.

    No new election. We've had enough - minority government and fight for every vote.
    And Brexit? Whither May's ridiculous Hard Brexit?
    Then you just increase the UKIP vote, softish Brexit with free movement and some transition controls delayed could be the way but it will not be easy
    There will be barely any Brexit, whatever is the final result. On the Tory side, the City will make sure.

    The June 19th meeting will be postponed.
    I wouldn't bank on that. There's now a much bigger risk of a crash Brexit, where no deal can be got through Parliament.
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    Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928
    The Labour vote is VERY efficient???

    Darlington LAB HOLD.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Somewhere around YouGov to Exit poll seems right. Don;t know where claims of Cobryn in government come from.
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