The amazing, glorious silver lining is that the SNP look to be struggling. That alone makes up for any chaos in the rest of GB.
It doesn't make up for it, sadly. If it was enough to push them over the edge to a majority, maybe, but hung parliament when no one will want to be a in a coalition is a bad outcome.
There will be a new set of elections, which means that the tactical unionist voters have another chance to gauge how to vote, to further reduce the SNP. However I'm not confident that the new election would reveal a conclusive outcome.
The amazing, glorious silver lining is that the SNP look to be struggling. That alone makes up for any chaos in the rest of GB.
It doesn't make up for it, sadly. If it was enough to push them over the edge to a majority, maybe, but hung parliament when no one will want to be a in a coalition is a bad outcome.
It's a temporary setback for the Scottish Nationalist cause. When the next recession comes, they'll be back and stronger than in 2014.
If Amber Rudd gets decapitated in Hastings that is fascinating. 5k conservative majority. 55% Brexit. Notwithstanding the labour council, large parts of the parliamentatery constituency are tory voting rural villages The 2015 labour candidate did not stand because I think she thought it was a hopeless case. Large parts of Hastings are white working class and retired people from places like Tonbridge living in bungalows in suburbs. Labour struggled to actually even find a credible candidate. Tories made no effort at all here, must have thought it was in the bag, guess they put all their efforts in to Eastbourne, Lewes, etc. No one will miss Amber Rudd, she didn't fit in.
@jimwaterson: Boris Johnson is "already on manoeuvres" claims Tory MP, who says the foreign secretary is "sounding out" a few colleagues about leadership.
I find it hard to believe that he could have misjudged it so badly, after getting it so right just 25 months ago.
He did screw up the London Mayoral too. I think that ultra-negative campaigns without bothering to push a positive agenda are proving counter-productive - and that is really, really good for British politics.
There is a problem with people getting the right answer for the wrong reasons, and not analysing the result stringently enough. After all, they were right.
In situations where you get validation once in a blue moon, you should analyse successes as much as failures. That's true for polling and it's true for politics.
@jimwaterson: Boris Johnson is "already on manoeuvres" claims Tory MP, who says the foreign secretary is "sounding out" a few colleagues about leadership.
@jimwaterson: Boris Johnson is "already on manoeuvres" claims Tory MP, who says the foreign secretary is "sounding out" a few colleagues about leadership.
How the fuck could the Tories have fucked this up so badly? If early signs are true, it's not just May who got it wrong it's the entire back office operation. The end of Crosby and Messina surely.
This is almost like Hillary 2016 all over again. Horrible campaign, horrible targeting.
It really isn't. Hillary's team had a year or more to plan here campaign; this one was cobbled together in weeks, with a manifesto partly dreamed up by the hitherto unknown director of the No10 policy unit.
How the fuck could the Tories have fucked this up so badly? If early signs are true, it's not just May who got it wrong it's the entire back office operation. The end of Crosby and Messina surely.
And the anti-Corbyn Blairites? Just teasing
We have clearly been stuffed. If the next Labour leader does not have Corbyn's baggage we could have a very left wing government in five years time.
Corbyn did as well as other Labour leaders in polling, could even be President Sanders too in 2020 first, remember polls had Sanders beating Trump by more than Hillary, could be a swing from Brexit and Trump to Sanders and Corbyn, the centre getting beaten both times, who knows?
How the fuck could the Tories have fucked this up so badly? If early signs are true, it's not just May who got it wrong it's the entire back office operation. The end of Crosby and Messina surely.
And the anti-Corbyn Blairites? Just teasing
We have clearly been stuffed. If the next Labour leader does not have Corbyn's baggage we could have a very left wing government in five years time.
You think Cons will still form this government? Casino_Royale is having a breakdown thinking it will Corbyn!
This is funnier than the time Casino got triggered in Ronnie Scott's.
If Amber Rudd gets decapitated in Hastings that is fascinating. 5k conservative majority. 55% Brexit. Notwithstanding the labour council, large parts of the parliamentatery constituency are tory voting rural shires. The 2015 labour candidate did not stand because I think she thought it was a hopeless case. Large parts of Hastings are white working class and retired people from places like Tonbridge living in bungalows in suburbs. Labour struggled to actually even find a credible candidate. Tories made no effort at all here, must have thought it was in the bag, guess they put all their efforts in to Eastbourne, Lewes, etc. No one will miss Amber Rudd, she didn't fit in.
Nicholas Wilson standing on an anti corruption HSBC ticket there I believe did huge damage. There are YouTube clips of the hustings. The moderator stepped in to save Rudd when the questioning got 'a bit difficult'. Hardly surprising given her wretched background and her appalling business career. Check it out on Companies House - the information is there.
Reputation destroyed. Maybe he can slink of and go and be a bit racist in Australia or something.
Not really, he's good at pushing a string message, but he's not good pushing a poor one. Dave had a strong message in 2015, Ed in Alex's pocket and "Long Term Economic Plan". This time Theresa was shit and had a shit message. It was the same as remain campaigning for the EU, it was a shit product. Theresa is a shit product.
The exit poll has the Cons taking Newport West, hardly likely when Labour just held the council in May. Plus they have the pencilled in for 4 North Wales gains which are highly unlikely. Plus they're losing Gower & Vale of Clwyd. The majority is nowhere
Reputation destroyed. Maybe he can slink of and go and be a bit racist in Australia or something.
Not really, he's good at pushing a string message, but he's not good pushing a poor one. Dave had a strong message in 2015, Ed in Alex's pocket and "Long Term Economic Plan". This time Theresa was shit and had a shit message. It was the same as remain campaigning for the EU, it was a shit product. Theresa is a shit product.
Her message was also abandoned three weeks out. And then changed and changed again.
Shed a tear for people who tweeted sarcastically about YouGov. Although YouGov utterly fucked up by their last minute poll adjustment to their final poll
I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.
What a mess.
Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
Yebbut Dave called the referendum, thinking he would win. Just like Theresa did with this year's election.
I feel sorry for both Cameron and May, both capable politicians, both backed Remain both screwed by the current volatility and mood of the electorate, ie anti austerity, anti globalisation, anti immigration etc
I expect Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister in the morning.
What a mess.
Sorry mate, you're reaping what you sowed on June 23rd
+1
+2. This is absolutely the best comment of the night. For the second time in 2 years the Tories have put the good of the party before the country and been royally screwed each time.
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Darlington is a hope - so we will probably get Middlesborough S too
Glad I didn't put money on CON in Bishop Auckland at 1/6
5k conservative majority. 55% Brexit. Notwithstanding the labour council, large parts of the parliamentatery constituency are tory voting rural villages
The 2015 labour candidate did not stand because I think she thought it was a hopeless case.
Large parts of Hastings are white working class and retired people from places like Tonbridge living in bungalows in suburbs.
Labour struggled to actually even find a credible candidate.
Tories made no effort at all here, must have thought it was in the bag, guess they put all their efforts in to Eastbourne, Lewes, etc.
No one will miss Amber Rudd, she didn't fit in.
Why he was viewed as this master I don't know.
Messed up in 2005 and in the 2016 Mayorals.
In situations where you get validation once in a blue moon, you should analyse successes as much as failures. That's true for polling and it's true for politics.
Hillary's team had a year or more to plan here campaign; this one was cobbled together in weeks, with a manifesto partly dreamed up by the hitherto unknown director of the No10 policy unit.
WillS
This is exactly what seems to be happening....
Normal Lamb is close to holding on in Norfolk North (no UKIP candidate this time!)
The Tories are toast.
PC say that Labour hold Ynys Mon - its the PC assembly member saying this
Question is whether the Cons can get to 323 themselves.
Why oh why did I ever think differently.
And that's only going to grow.
I predicted it here nearly a decade ago - we're all going to get poorer.
The private sector magic money tree is nearly exhausted and the government one is way past its best.
What do we do when the next recession comes ? And its coming sooner than later now.
PM Corbyn not ruled out yet.