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It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.0
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1st like Trump.
2nd like Harris?0 -
Béziers, twinned with Wick
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Are you relocating permanently to France? You seem to be getting your 90 in 180 days in...Leon said:Béziers, twinned with Wick
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It's honestly worth playing with this map:https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/cyom/electoral-collegeSandpit said:1st like Trump.
2nd like Harris?
Harris gets Penn and Wisconsin, she wins. And I think it is increasingly likely that she will get both.0 -
Lovely part of France.Leon said:Béziers, twinned with Wick
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Have the rioters caused thousands of pounds of improvement to Stoke?FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
It is interesting to note that the fella with the swastika tattoo last night in Sunderland is from Stoke.1 -
Looking at trending on twitter i can feel the classic russian tactics in play, boostering of both sides to farm outrage.2
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Interestingly the levelling up fund gave a massive amount to a redevelopment of Hanley and its still a massive building site with bugger all been completed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Have the rioters caused thousands of pounds of improvement to Stoke?FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
It is interesting to note that the fella with the swastika tattoo last night in Sunderland is from Stoke.
I am not surprised a proper Nazi comes from Stoke, remember BNP at one point had a load of councillors there, basically by getting local candidates and convince people they weren't bad people.1 -
My friends in Manchester say they anti-racism rally is massively outnumbering the fascists in Piccadilly Gardens.FrancisUrquhart said:Looking at trending on twitter i can feel the classic russian tactics in play, boostering of both sides to farm outrage.
Mostly insults being thrown.1 -
Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert is well worth a visit. Not far from you now.Leon said:Béziers, twinned with Wick
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Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex), had a very nice Lebanese meal washed down with Beirut Beer (it really exists) then inspected a model village called London from the top of the Shard (which cost more than lunch).
At and around London Bridge Station were large amounts of males chanting "We are Millwall, no one likes us, we don't care" , so the Borough area might best be avoided.2 -
An unexpected sequence of events got joined together. Friend offered his lovely house in Provence for a week for me to finish a flint. Then my older daughter said she fancied a French road trip and flew out for ten days, and we went all over, then I got some gazette commissions (like the hotel last night and now Béziers and others)FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you relocating permanently to France? You seem to be getting your 90 in 180 days in...Leon said:Béziers, twinned with Wick
So a week has turned into a month and it’s been a BLAST. France is so beautiful1 -
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If she can hold NM.DavidL said:
It's honestly worth playing with this map:https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/cyom/electoral-collegeSandpit said:1st like Trump.
2nd like Harris?
Harris gets Penn and Wisconsin, she wins. And I think it is increasingly likely that she will get both.0 -
BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
The woman denied being the first to post the name, saying that she copied it from a fellow lockdown sceptic’s account and that Twitter/X’s time and date stamps could not be trusted.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn1 -
Why are they not naming the person?TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
You can find the name in seconds.0 -
Thanks for the header
, but not for the dethreading.
In revenge, I'm going OT.
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Yes. There's a lot in this. It's about growing up, hormones and the rest, and also medical conditions and social conditions / conditioning.Malmesbury said:
Yup - that sounds like teenagers being teenagers.tlg86 said:
There was a guy I went to school with who, on first encountering him in Year 7, was a bit intimidating because he seemed so advanced with his maths and English. Five years later and his GCSEs were nothing special and he was a bit rebellious by 16. My guess is his parents pushed him hard at junior school and it burnt him out. But, that's nothing compared with what you're describing.Malmesbury said:
There is a noted and known phenomenon of mid/late teens developing a combination of anxiety combined with ADHD and/autism. This leads to some quite bright and apparently happy children turning inwards and self isolating. Known a couple of examples among parents I know. As in refusing to leave their room for anything. Or talk to anyone.tlg86 said:
Obviously not been convicted, but what the hell has happened in the intervening years? The line about autism and unwillingness to leave the house or communicate with his family is completely different to what is seen in that trailer.JosiasJessop said:Oh dear...
"The BBC has removed a 2018 Children in Need campaign video from its websites after it emerged it featured the Southport stabbing suspect."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3dxeplp9o
If the schools aren’t very supportive, this ends up with exclusion for non-attendance and the spiral gets worse.
The kids who go through this describe being full of anger and fear. Both are almost without target - they feel inadequate and quite self loathing, but it is far more than that.
The school my youngest goes to (private) is trying all the staff to deal with a wave of socialisation problems like this. Usually goes undiagnosed in most state schools - apart from excluding the children if they get really bad.
In addition to Aristotle's “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” and the Jesuit (and anybody else's) similar statements, the same goes for the ages 15 through the end of University - when we are all finding our attitudes for the first time.
Which is why everybody from mainstream political parties and religions and any other groups, through the edgy (Hunt Sabs, fringe religions or religious sects) and over the edge (SWP, Al-Muhajiroun, far right groups etc) all aim for University age, with the aim of getting disciples and making them into committed members. At the edge cult-recruitment techniques apply.
Most grow up, ask questions, and get a perspective and a balance. Some do not.
Later life converts to whatever can be similar, especially if the recruiters seek to manipulate via social isolation etc.
Turning someone into a killer by age 17 is probably unusual, if this is what happened here.
A very perceptive comment I heard back in 1991 from a now-retired Church of England bishop called Graham Cray, who's lens into youth culture was via his interest in rock music, was that recruits at 15-18 were likely to be driven by fashion, and the "things that make teenagers, teenagers", and so may not last.
So that for understanding developing culture in order to relate to it (for him as an open evangelical Christian trying to discern how to do mission in a changing culture) it was wiser to work with young adults aged 18-30, who were in a position to make mature decisions and evaluate whether a particular weltanschauung ("philosophy of life") was for them. He thought it was a better age group for understanding how the country would change.2 -
Oh god please, no.Andy_JS said:Prtiti Patel asks for parliament to be recalled.
https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1819607591518892279
Three day debate of grandstanding and windbaggery interspersed by wild rants from Reform MPs?
No thanks. Keep them on holiday.4 -
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.0 -
Amazing how that station next to the rail bridge has been developed with a floral hat. Is that Cannon Street, and are those two towers the originals? I dimly remember a bombed-out and still roofless hulk in the 1980s.MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex), had a very nice Lebanese meal washed down with Beirut Beer (it really exists) then inspected a model village called London from the top of the Shard (which cost more than lunch).
At and around London Bridge Station were large amounts of males chanting "We are Millwall, no one likes us, we don't care" , so the Borough area might best be avoided.1 -
I think they are playing it safe.rottenborough said:
Why are they not naming the person?TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
You can find the name in seconds.
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Ironically, that is what they said about the Southport (some say Stockport) stabber, and look where that ended, or, erm, started.rottenborough said:
Why are they not naming the person?TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
You can find the name in seconds.0 -
Question....as the likes of the Times are checking this retrospectively, how do they know this individual is ground zero? They don't have access to twitter logs and so other earlier tweets might have claimed this then deleted the tweet... particularly if you are a bad faith actor, you get the rumour going then memory hole all those tweets.0
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Don't worry, I'm not putting the name on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think they are playing it safe.rottenborough said:
Why are they not naming the person?TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
You can find the name in seconds.
You really don't want to get sued and/or have the rozzers on your back.
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AKA Priti Patel seeks to raise the profile of her dwindling leadership campaign.Andy_JS said:Prtiti Patel asks for parliament to be recalled.
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There are differing accounts, and not from trustyworthy sources, hence why i said incident.MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.0 -
It’s obvious and ghastly russian misinformationTheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
On the other hand there were people doing real detective work - who dug up eye witness accounts (none of the MSM would touch them) which turned out to be accurate in their descriptions. And one or two online sleuths found the villain’s real name and published it on TwiX
That’s probably illegal and wrong but it’s better than the inflammatory bullshit pushed by the Russians
At the same time all the online info relating to the villain’s family - eg his father’s records at companies house - all disappeared in the 48 hours after the crime (and before his ID was released to the media)
Somebody was busy. Possibly the family themselves?0 -
Hitler lovers completely outnumbered by anti-racism campaigners in Nottingham city.0
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Biden was 7-8 percentage points up there and with Harris doing better with Latinos and blacks it is likely she will be doing even better. No one has bothered to poll the state for a while. Virginia is more of a risk than NM.rottenborough said:
If she can hold NM.DavidL said:
It's honestly worth playing with this map:https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/cyom/electoral-collegeSandpit said:1st like Trump.
2nd like Harris?
Harris gets Penn and Wisconsin, she wins. And I think it is increasingly likely that she will get both.0 -
Yes. But I don’t think this was recruitment. If it was as described.MattW said:Thanks for the header
, but not for the dethreading.
In revenge, I'm going OT.
FPT:
Yes. There's a lot in this. It's about growing up, hormones and the rest, and also medical conditions and social conditions / conditioning.Malmesbury said:
Yup - that sounds like teenagers being teenagers.tlg86 said:
There was a guy I went to school with who, on first encountering him in Year 7, was a bit intimidating because he seemed so advanced with his maths and English. Five years later and his GCSEs were nothing special and he was a bit rebellious by 16. My guess is his parents pushed him hard at junior school and it burnt him out. But, that's nothing compared with what you're describing.Malmesbury said:
There is a noted and known phenomenon of mid/late teens developing a combination of anxiety combined with ADHD and/autism. This leads to some quite bright and apparently happy children turning inwards and self isolating. Known a couple of examples among parents I know. As in refusing to leave their room for anything. Or talk to anyone.tlg86 said:
Obviously not been convicted, but what the hell has happened in the intervening years? The line about autism and unwillingness to leave the house or communicate with his family is completely different to what is seen in that trailer.JosiasJessop said:Oh dear...
"The BBC has removed a 2018 Children in Need campaign video from its websites after it emerged it featured the Southport stabbing suspect."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3dxeplp9o
If the schools aren’t very supportive, this ends up with exclusion for non-attendance and the spiral gets worse.
The kids who go through this describe being full of anger and fear. Both are almost without target - they feel inadequate and quite self loathing, but it is far more than that.
The school my youngest goes to (private) is trying all the staff to deal with a wave of socialisation problems like this. Usually goes undiagnosed in most state schools - apart from excluding the children if they get really bad.
In addition to Aristotle's “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” and the Jesuit (and anybody else's) similar statements, the same goes for the ages 15 through the end of University - when we are all finding our attitudes for the first time.
Which is why everybody from mainstream political parties and religions and any other groups, through the edgy (Hunt Sabs, fringe religions or religious sects) and over the edge (SWP, Al-Muhajiroun, far right groups etc) all aim for University age, with the aim of getting disciples and making them into committed members. At the edge cult-recruitment techniques apply.
Most grow up, ask questions, and get a perspective and a balance. Some do not.
Later life converts to whatever can be similar, especially if the recruiters seek to manipulate via social isolation etc.
Turning someone into a killer by age 17 is probably unusual, if this is what happened here.
A very perceptive comment I heard back in 1991 from a now-retired Church of England bishop called Graham Cray, who's lens into youth culture was via his interest in rock music, was that recruits at 15-18 were likely to be driven by fashion, and the "things that make teenagers, teenagers", and so may not last.
So that for understanding developing culture in order to relate to it (for him as an open evangelical Christian trying to discern how to do mission in a changing culture) it was wiser to work with young adults aged 18-30, who were in a position to make mature decisions and evaluate whether a particular weltanschauung ("philosophy of life") was for them. He thought it was a better age group for understanding how the country would change.
I can also see, having seen an example of this personally, what would have happened if the withdrawal was met with forcible attempts at getting the kid out of his room.
Think traditional (1950s UK style) thinking - “he needed to be forced out of it”.
The rage and anger and fear would have become a maelstrom.
I hope I am wrong. But it fits.1 -
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong0 -
Rachel Reeves was talking about the possibility of it in 2016.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-brexit-immigration-labour-mp-riots-uk-conference-speech-a7334266.html0 -
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
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I know. I linked to it earlier todayAndy_JS said:
Rachel Reeves was talking about the possibility of it in 2016.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-brexit-immigration-labour-mp-riots-uk-conference-speech-a7334266.html
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On a more light hearted note...
Spend a decade training. Counting every calorie. Measuring every vital. Getting 8.15 hours of sleep every night. Only to lose out on an Olympic medal because your dong wasn’t tucked. Devastating
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You mean the anti racism campaigners who just brutally stabbed and axed two people?rottenborough said:Hitler lovers completely outnumbered by anti-racism campaigners in Nottingham city.
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Um. point of tech order. Twitter's timestamps are unreliable. ISTR that was discovered when Alec Baldwin's wife was accused of texting during a funeral, a point she hotly denied. IIUC things like timezones, lacation of the phone, relay towers and the location of the servers is an issue0
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As i understand it, some of these monitoring outfits record/scan a vast array of sources as they post. Because of deletion/time expiring/editing etcrottenborough said:
Don't worry, I'm not putting the name on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think they are playing it safe.rottenborough said:
Why are they not naming the person?TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
You can find the name in seconds.
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Protests do seem to attract low IQ folk....we had the genius level lot who didn't know which river or sea they were chanting about.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
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Not racial. Sectarian.Leon said:
I know. I linked to it earlier todayAndy_JS said:
Rachel Reeves was talking about the possibility of it in 2016.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-brexit-immigration-labour-mp-riots-uk-conference-speech-a7334266.html
My god this is bleak. Open racial conflict all over Britain
See NI for a previous example.0 -
FPT:
The usual pinch of salt needed, but Ukraine claim to have hit a submarine again:
"The Ukrainian General Staff reports that Ukrainian forces successfully struck a Russian submarine and an S-400 missile system in occupied Crimea. Four S-400 launchers were significantly damaged. The B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" submarine, hit in Sevastopol port, sank immediately. The submarine, valued at $300 million, was undergoing repairs after a previous attack in September 2023"
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You know that the perps were anti-racism campaigners?Leon said:
You mean the anti racism campaigners who just brutally stabbed and axed two people?rottenborough said:Hitler lovers completely outnumbered by anti-racism campaigners in Nottingham city.
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Coincidentally enough, I saw this tweet earlier, showing the station before it was redevelopedCarnyx said:
Amazing how that station next to the rail bridge has been developed with a floral hat. Is that Cannon Street, and are those two towers the originals? I dimly remember a bombed-out and still roofless hulk in the 1980s.MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex), had a very nice Lebanese meal washed down with Beirut Beer (it really exists) then inspected a model village called London from the top of the Shard (which cost more than lunch).
At and around London Bridge Station were large amounts of males chanting "We are Millwall, no one likes us, we don't care" , so the Borough area might best be avoided.
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I don’t know how we pull back from thisMisterBedfordshire said:
Not racial. Sectarian.Leon said:
I know. I linked to it earlier todayAndy_JS said:
Rachel Reeves was talking about the possibility of it in 2016.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-brexit-immigration-labour-mp-riots-uk-conference-speech-a7334266.html
My god this is bleak. Open racial conflict all over Britain
See NI for a previous example.
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Fuck me Béziers feels like an extremely nice place to live right now. Compared to Britain1
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Their grasp of history is very dodgy as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
Protests do seem to attract low IQ folk....we had the genius level lot who didn't know which river or sea they were chanting about.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-riots-live-hundreds-far-141059517.html
You see and hear as they think St George was an Englishman.
Bloody St George, a foreigner, coming over here and taking the job of an Englishman, poor St Edmund, the first victim of the great replacement theory.5 -
Most of them were totally useless as councillors up and down the country. Soon fizzled out.FrancisUrquhart said:
Interestingly the levelling up fund gave a massive amount to a redevelopment of Hanley and its still a massive building site with bugger all been completed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Have the rioters caused thousands of pounds of improvement to Stoke?FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
It is interesting to note that the fella with the swastika tattoo last night in Sunderland is from Stoke.
I am not surprised a proper Nazi comes from Stoke, remember BNP at one point had a load of councillors there, basically by getting local candidates and convince people they weren't bad people.0 -
That was Stoke.Leon said:
You mean the anti racism campaigners who just brutally stabbed and axed two people?rottenborough said:Hitler lovers completely outnumbered by anti-racism campaigners in Nottingham city.
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Oh.
Planned anti-immigration demo in Doncaster passes quietly after only one protester turns up
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We had a protest in Dundee today. It was more than a tad bizarre. Most were waving the Bangladesh flag. Their posters were all in Bengali as was the chanting. Maybe 30 people. Absolutely no idea what it was about. If I hadn't recognised the flag I wouldn't even have known the country.
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Courtesy of Popbitch
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Kamala.
Kamala who?
You endorsed her, sir.
https://popbitch.com/emails/benny-hizzle/0 -
To do with this.DavidL said:We had a protest in Dundee today. It was more than a tad bizarre. Most were waving the Bangladesh flag. Their posters were all in Bengali as was the chanting. Maybe 30 people. Absolutely no idea what it was about. If I hadn't recognised the flag I wouldn't even have known the country.
Anyone any ideas?
Fresh violence has broken out in Bangladesh between police and student protesters demanding justice for victims of recent unrest.
Clashes were reported in the capital Dhaka and other cities on Wednesday. In the north-eastern city of Sylhet, an official claimed demonstrators had attacked police who in turn used tear gas.
Photos sent from the southern city of Barisal to BBC Bangla show police in riot gear and wielding batons, barricading demonstrations and taking away protesters, many of whom are women.
More than 200 people have been killed in this month's violence, mostly as a result of police opening fire. Nearly 10,000 people have reportedly been detained.
Wednesday's "March for Justice" was called by the Students Against Discrimination movement.
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That's because you don't live in Britain.Leon said:Fuck me Béziers feels like an extremely nice place to live right now. Compared to Britain
You live in twatterland.2 -
https://www.crisisgroup.org/asia/south-asia/bangladesh/bangladesh-edge-after-crushing-quota-protestsDavidL said:We had a protest in Dundee today. It was more than a tad bizarre. Most were waving the Bangladesh flag. Their posters were all in Bengali as was the chanting. Maybe 30 people. Absolutely no idea what it was about. If I hadn't recognised the flag I wouldn't even have known the country.
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As I understand it the roof structure survived but the glass was taken down and put in a safe storage warehouse for the duration. Alas the warehouse got bombed, destroying the lot.Carnyx said:
Amazing how that station next to the rail bridge has been developed with a floral hat. Is that Cannon Street, and are those two towers the originals? I dimly remember a bombed-out and still roofless hulk in the 1980s.MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex), had a very nice Lebanese meal washed down with Beirut Beer (it really exists) then inspected a model village called London from the top of the Shard (which cost more than lunch).
At and around London Bridge Station were large amounts of males chanting "We are Millwall, no one likes us, we don't care" , so the Borough area might best be avoided.1 -
Potters Bar?MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex)
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Bloody foreign knights, taking the jobs of our previous immigrant overlord knights, rendering our fictional native predators extinct.TheScreamingEagles said:
Their grasp of history is very dodgy as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
Protests do seem to attract low IQ folk....we had the genius level lot who didn't know which river or sea they were chanting about.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-riots-live-hundreds-far-141059517.html
You see and hear as they think St George was an Englishman.
Bloody St George, a foreigner, coming over here and taking the job of an Englishman, poor St Edmund, the first victim of the great replacement theory.
Right, that does it. I’m founding the Order Of Prince Philip & Prince Albert. Our purpose will be to rail against all such furrin’ stuff. And honour the legacy of our patron saints. Proper Englishmen.0 -
I visited Beziers many years ago and I found it had a strange atmosphere. I understand there was a massacre there in the Middle Ages. Also, when I returned from Beziers, I read a Maigret novel in which there was a reference to a brothel in Beziers, which specialised in child prostitution. That had a ring of truth about it.Leon said:Fuck me Béziers feels like an extremely nice place to live right now. Compared to Britain
Perhaps it was me, but it just struck me as a creepy place. Narbonne, on the other hand, I really liked.0 -
That sliver of rural middlesex you pass just before you go into the tunnel near Scratchwood Services on the sprint to St Albans.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Potters Bar?MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex)
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A lots of people got killed by state security forces in protests in Bangladesh. Bangladeshis world wide are have protests about that.DavidL said:We had a protest in Dundee today. It was more than a tad bizarre. Most were waving the Bangladesh flag. Their posters were all in Bengali as was the chanting. Maybe 30 people. Absolutely no idea what it was about. If I hadn't recognised the flag I wouldn't even have known the country.
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Nobody likes a show off....has he been on the baking soda and carbon monoxide?tlg86 said:A pretty cool finish in the men's road race:
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No, that's the ECML, through Potters Bar. Potters Bar was in Middlesex, till transferred to Herts in 1965 when most of Middlesex became part of Greater London.MisterBedfordshire said:
That sliver of rural middlesex you pass just before you go into the tunnel near Scratchwood Services on the sprint to St Albans.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Potters Bar?MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex)
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There were probably a few hundred there, all wandering about looking for a large group, and being too frit to go up to a stranger and aske them: "Are you a racist?"TheScreamingEagles said:Oh.
Planned anti-immigration demo in Doncaster passes quietly after only one protester turns up
https://x.com/DonnyFreePress/status/18197462406884885233 -
Yes I think you are right, the bit of rural Middlesex I was admiring is in Greater London now.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No, that's the ECML, through Potters Bar. Potters Bar was in Middlesex, till transferred to Herts in 1965 when most of Middlesex became part of Greater London.MisterBedfordshire said:
That sliver of rural middlesex you pass just before you go into the tunnel near Scratchwood Services on the sprint to St Albans.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Potters Bar?MisterBedfordshire said:Now safely on the train again in rural Hertfordshire (actually was rural Middlesex)
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One thing that concerns me is the semi-conspiracy-loon tendency. We have seen that in anti-LTN circles, bleeding over into Mark Harper's transport policy.TheScreamingEagles said:BIB - Shocked.
While foreign agitators and far-right leaders leapt upon false claims the Southport attack suspect was an immigrant who had arrived in a small boat, the allegations can be traced to social media accounts closer to home.
The woman accused of being first to post a false Muslim name for the suspect is the managing director of a clothing company. The mother of three in her mid-fifties enjoys walking, is married to an artist and counts an actor among her children. The family live in a £1.5 million farmhouse in the rural north.
She posted on Twitter/X that “Ali Al-Shakati” was the suspect, he was an “asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year” and was on an “MI6 watch list”.
“If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose”, she wrote. The false information sped around the internet and played a part in prompting the anti-immigration riot in Southport the following evening. An hour after it was published, at 4.49pm on Monday, she deleted the post.
The woman, who The Times is not naming, is a prominent campaigner against lockdowns and net-zero climate schemes. She had tens of thousands of followers before she deleted her account....
...Logically, a British tech company that reports on misinformation, said that her post was the first to contain the name. Her comment, the company said, went online 61 minutes before the Russian-linked Channel 3 Now website published an article which went viral online and was repeated on RT, the Russian broadcaster.
“The name is amplified by Channel 3 Now,” Marc Jones, a disinformation expert, said. “It’s a fake news site … and they got loads of retweets.” Channel 3 Now later removed the article and apologised.
The false claims were jumped upon by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, and Andrew Tate, a right-wing influencer with nine million followers on Twitter/X.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
I had this on - of all places - Ashley Neal's Youtube channel. TBF it is the Just Cycling one, not the Driving one, and the former gets more drive-by trolls:
@mattwardman Not interested, but clearly bristling at it. Definitely a cyclist. Lockdown supporter too?
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Now, come on. We can make some logical assumptions to show this is correct.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-riots-live-hundreds-far-141059517.html
The Titanic left port on a scheduled sailing to America.
But it would have been cancelled if there hadn't been passengers booked on it.*
Therefore, it hit the iceberg because too many people were on it. If there hadn't been people on it, it wouldn't have been there.
/sarcasmends.
*Actually, as a mail ship it would have sailed anyway. But we're trying to understand the logic of these people.
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Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
https://x.com/steve_laws_/status/1819759144221507959?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw0 -
Edmund? What about St Augustine?TheScreamingEagles said:
Their grasp of history is very dodgy as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
Protests do seem to attract low IQ folk....we had the genius level lot who didn't know which river or sea they were chanting about.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-riots-live-hundreds-far-141059517.html
You see and hear as they think St George was an Englishman.
Bloody St George, a foreigner, coming over here and taking the job of an Englishman, poor St Edmund, the first victim of the great replacement theory.
Sure, he was an immigrant, but so Edward for a large chunk of his life.0 -
Did he change his name to Remco as part of a sponsorship deal?FrancisUrquhart said:
Nobody likes a show off....has he been on the baking soda and carbon monoxide?tlg86 said:A pretty cool finish in the men's road race:
https://x.com/LosBrolin/status/1819757680837140724
https://www.remco.co.uk/0 -
What first attracted you to an account that favours the forced repatriation of all non whites and has form for posting fake news?Leon said:Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
https://x.com/steve_laws_/status/1819759144221507959?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw5 -
"All northern(-ish) towns look the same to me!"rottenborough said:
That was Stoke.Leon said:
You mean the anti racism campaigners who just brutally stabbed and axed two people?rottenborough said:Hitler lovers completely outnumbered by anti-racism campaigners in Nottingham city.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remco_(given_name)williamglenn said:
Did he change his name to Remco as part of a sponsorship deal?FrancisUrquhart said:
Nobody likes a show off....has he been on the baking soda and carbon monoxide?tlg86 said:A pretty cool finish in the men's road race:
https://x.com/LosBrolin/status/1819757680837140724
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I did a Twitter search on “Stoke”TheScreamingEagles said:
What first attracted you to an account that favours the forced repatriation of all non whites and has form for posting fake news?Leon said:Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
https://x.com/steve_laws_/status/1819759144221507959?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw-2 -
And Elon's algorithms did their work.Leon said:
I did a Twitter search on “Stoke”TheScreamingEagles said:
What first attracted you to an account that favours the forced repatriation of all non whites and has form for posting fake news?Leon said:Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
https://x.com/steve_laws_/status/1819759144221507959?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
But have a read of this.
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Think we could do with a summer deluge to cool down some of these "protesters"0
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Water cannon is legally available to the authorities only in NI!GIN1138 said:Think we could do with a summer deluge to cool down some of these "protesters"
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I’m pretty sure that video is real. I’ve no idea who the tweeter is. I just searched “stoke”TheScreamingEagles said:
And Elon's algorithms did their work.Leon said:
I did a Twitter search on “Stoke”TheScreamingEagles said:
What first attracted you to an account that favours the forced repatriation of all non whites and has form for posting fake news?Leon said:Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
https://x.com/steve_laws_/status/1819759144221507959?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
But have a read of this.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-steve-laws/
There are now dozens of videos like that
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Things not going well at the IOC...
https://x.com/iocmedia/status/1819667573698445793
IOC MEDIA
@iocmedia
CORRECTION
In today’s IOC – Paris 2024 press briefing, IOC President Bach said:
“But I repeat, here, this is not a DSD case, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”
What was intended was:
“But I repeat, here, this is not a transgender case, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”0 -
This feels like it is way beyond water cannonSunil_Prasannan said:
Water cannon is legally available to the authorities only in NI!GIN1138 said:Think we could do with a summer deluge to cool down some of these "protesters"
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There was a mayor of London, lambasted for buying a water cannon vehicle. I wonder what happened to him?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Water cannon is legally available to the authorities only in NI!GIN1138 said:Think we could do with a summer deluge to cool down some of these "protesters"
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If you are ever in Saint Bertrand-de-Comminges visit the Cathedral. The old verger may try and sell you an old manuscript, though - I wouldn’t recommend it.SandraMc said:
I visited Beziers many years ago and I found it had a strange atmosphere. I understand there was a massacre there in the Middle Ages. Also, when I returned from Beziers, I read a Maigret novel in which there was a reference to a brothel in Beziers, which specialised in child prostitution. That had a ring of truth about it.Leon said:Fuck me Béziers feels like an extremely nice place to live right now. Compared to Britain
Perhaps it was me, but it just struck me as a creepy place. Narbonne, on the other hand, I really liked.0 -
Awami league have also been organising pro govt protests in UK I thinkMalmesbury said:
A lots of people got killed by state security forces in protests in Bangladesh. Bangladeshis world wide are have protests about that.DavidL said:We had a protest in Dundee today. It was more than a tad bizarre. Most were waving the Bangladesh flag. Their posters were all in Bengali as was the chanting. Maybe 30 people. Absolutely no idea what it was about. If I hadn't recognised the flag I wouldn't even have known the country.
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More unusal flag combinations in Belfast.
https://x.com/KellyMatshall/status/1819726592978854377?t=YS6er9t-6oiaz7LWOEIvMA&s=190 -
Why did TSE not use this in the header ?
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During the making of the film, they built a whole bunch of stuff, including replicas of the boat davits and boats.ydoethur said:
Now, come on. We can make some logical assumptions to show this is correct.MattW said:
Not the sharpest knives in the drawer:FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
An anti-immigration protester has claimed the Titanic sank because there was ‘too many people’ in a bizarre comparison to the UK.
The Titanic sank due to a collision with an iceberg, not because of the number of people aboard the ship.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-riots-live-hundreds-far-141059517.html
The Titanic left port on a scheduled sailing to America.
But it would have been cancelled if there hadn't been passengers booked on it.*
Therefore, it hit the iceberg because too many people were on it. If there hadn't been people on it, it wouldn't have been there.
/sarcasmends.
*Actually, as a mail ship it would have sailed anyway. But we're trying to understand the logic of these people.
Some Titanic enthusiasts arranged a test. They bolted the davits to a quart side and replicated the loading and lowering of the boats.
Even after practise, in daylight, with willing “passengers”, they couldn’t load as fast or get as many boats away in the time as the original crew did. In the dark, on a sloping deck…
Apparently a big issue was the way the clinker built boats hogged as the passengers were loaded - unless you were used to this, it looked very frightening. Which explains why the plan ended up ( on the Titanic) to launch partly loaded and row round to the gangway to take on more passengers…1 -
This is going viral
“Police liaison tells a group of Muslims in Stoke that, “If you have any weapons discard them at the mosque”.
How can anybody try to tell anyone that two-tier policing doesn’t exist?!”
https://x.com/lewis_brackpool/status/1819764968754942426?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw-1 -
I think that might be the same scene as before, from a different angle.MisterBedfordshire said:More unusal flag combinations in Belfast.
https://x.com/KellyMatshall/status/1819726592978854377?t=YS6er9t-6oiaz7LWOEIvMA&s=190 -
It’s almost comical. Almost
Ye gods. Time for a gin and tonic in creepy Béziers1 -
It used to be, before the peace process, that racism against Muslims, Jews etc in NI was low.MisterBedfordshire said:More unusal flag combinations in Belfast.
https://x.com/KellyMatshall/status/1819726592978854377?t=YS6er9t-6oiaz7LWOEIvMA&s=19
The haters had all the hating they needed.
Since the peace process… yup, haters gotta hate..0 -
If they have a blue tick they can't be trustedLeon said:Anti racism campaigners marching with swords and smashing up Greggs
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@Leon this sums it up.Leon said:It’s almost comical. Almost
Ye gods. Time for a gin and tonic in creepy Béziers
https://x.com/jesse_marioneau/status/1819450257547415955?t=GAYI4NQ7rQP0mI9VUlCoWg&s=190 -
"Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ
Anybody who breaks the law should be arrested. But what you are also witnessing in the UK right now is a concerted & most likely coordinated effort by the elite class to inflate "far right" to stigmatise & silence millions of ordinary people who object to mass immigration and its effects.
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Even a slight uptick in Black voter turnout makes VA pretty safe for Harris. NM more problematic IMHO.DavidL said:
Biden was 7-8 percentage points up there and with Harris doing better with Latinos and blacks it is likely she will be doing even better. No one has bothered to poll the state for a while. Virginia is more of a risk than NM.rottenborough said:
If she can hold NM.DavidL said:
It's honestly worth playing with this map:https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/cyom/electoral-collegeSandpit said:1st like Trump.
2nd like Harris?
Harris gets Penn and Wisconsin, she wins. And I think it is increasingly likely that she will get both.0 -
Updated the thread header now.Nigelb said:Why did TSE not use this in the header ?
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/18197500674624024083 -
The probability is that these protests will just burn themselves out, for the same reason that all protests are futile: people get identified due to technology then end up with really serious consequences in their lives. Sympathisers will not join in, the way they may have done historically.
What I predict will happen is the response from government will just be along the lines of 'far right terrorism is the greatest challenge of our generation, worse even than Islamist terrorism', and then far right activists will be jailed for decades and given 'control' orders etc, similar to what as happens to Islamic terrorists. But I would be surprised if this solves the problem, I would guess it makes things worse.
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The guy's just obsessed with this "elite" he claims to have discovered are running the country.Andy_JS said:"Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ
Anybody who breaks the law should be arrested. But what you are also witnessing in the UK right now is a concerted & most likely coordinated effort by the elite class to inflate "far right" to stigmatise & silence millions of ordinary people who object to mass immigration and its effects.
4:22 PM · Aug 3, 2024
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The Southport stabber wasn't an immigrant.Andy_JS said:"Matt Goodwin
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Anybody who breaks the law should be arrested. But what you are also witnessing in the UK right now is a concerted & most likely coordinated effort by the elite class to inflate "far right" to stigmatise & silence millions of ordinary people who object to mass immigration and its effects.
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