Who would be the 10% that would go on the rampage if you did that?
Right now the Police would be happy with a Dihydrogen Monoxide dump.
Think of the benefits
1) population drops to 10% - pressure on housing, public services reduced 2) population of Luton is now sociopathic space faring, slightly radioactive zombie cannibals. Which is a massive improvement.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
Perhaps one of the most amusing consequences of the court delays from the pandemic, has been the various disruptive campaigners see their friends get serious prison time, when their own case is still a year away and they’ve been picked up again for more disruption in the meantime.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
But let's keep this all in perspective.
We are not days away from civil war as some breathless right of centre commentators want to us to believe.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Who would be the 10% that would go on the rampage if you did that?
Right now the Police would be happy with a Dihydrogen Monoxide dump.
Think of the benefits
1) population drops to 10% - pressure on housing, public services reduced 2) population of Luton is now sociopathic space faring, slightly radioactive zombie cannibals. Which is a massive improvement.
Judging by some of the characters you see between the Arndale CentreMall Point and the railway station, it is possible that someone may already tried this.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Same as in the Summer of 2011 ostensibly over Duggan, or the late Spring of 2020 over BLM.
The important thing is just to have a good perceived reason to run riot, which doesn't need to be consistent.
Off to the low countries for a week. It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door. Remarkably easy and agreeable though. I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around. I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see. I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.
We did that. Except I think we hired a car. Was the Montreal Olympics, so I'd have been nine. The TV cut away from the 800 metres final to show a Danish yachting bronze ceremony. Stayed on a farm near Velje. Had a stiff neck at Legoland. Was a plague of ladybirds and Dad caught an unfeasibly big carp which the farmer's wife cooked for tea. Had my first freshly pressed apple juice. Lush. As was farmer's daughter. Pornography for sale everywhere. Went to Elsinore and saw Sweden. Hans Christian Anderson's house. Tivoli Gardens. Little Mermaid statue was very little. That's what I know.
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
Does that include, in Louise's mind, all Thatcher-era suburban and rural voters who wanted to destroy the union movement for about 30 years, well into the New Labour era ?
No ? What a surprise, n'esr-ce-pas.
I don't know Louise Perry's work; but I'm interested that as well as being a DM writer, she also has a column in the New Statesman.
There were two injured on the videos (which showed both on the same video). Both with head injuries. One was bleeding profusely but walking wounded. The other was down and in a bad way being treated by paramedics.
Scalp wounds tend to bleed profusely as the sides of the wound are pulled apart, and then any blood looks dramatic as it pours down the face.
Off to the low countries for a week. It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door. Remarkably easy and agreeable though. I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around. I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see. I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.
Choose your season, well, and forecast carefully.
We did that on the overnight version, and a North Sea Force 8 Gale is horrible.
All of the toilets and sinks throughout the ship were blocked and clogged and half full of sick, which was also over a lot of the floors. And the ones in our cabin.
At the time mum was around 43, and I was around 14. I think it was the last ferry she *ever* went on. Everything afterwards was Chunnel or fly.
Off to the low countries for a week. It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door. Remarkably easy and agreeable though. I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around. I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see. I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.
Choose your season well.
We did that on the overnight version, and a North Sea Force 8 Gale is horrible.
All of the toilets and sinks throughout the ship were blocked and clogged with sick. And the ones in our cabin.
At the time mum was around 43. I think it was the last ferry she *ever* went on.
Taking the Stockholm-Tallinn route next week. Hoping for a millpond.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
Does that include, in Louise's mind, all Thatcher-era suburban and rural voters who wanted to destroy the union movement for about 30 years, well into the New Labour era ?
No ? What a surprise, n'esr-ce-pas.
I don't know Louise Perry's work; but I'm interested that as well as being a DM writer, she also has a column in the New Statesman.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
Perhaps one of the most amusing consequences of the court delays from the pandemic, has been the various disruptive campaigners see their friends get serious prison time, when their own case is still a year away and they’ve been picked up again for more disruption in the meantime.
People, even villains, respect the judiciary, but the way things are going, it might only be a question of time before one radical group or other takes revenge on magistrates or judges handing out exemplary sentences.
Off to the low countries for a week. It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door. Remarkably easy and agreeable though. I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around. I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see. I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.
Choose your season, well, and forecast carefully.
We did that on the overnight version, and a North Sea Force 8 Gale is horrible.
All of the toilets and sinks throughout the ship were blocked and clogged and half full of sick, which was also over a lot of the floors. And the ones in our cabin.
At the time mum was around 43, and I was around 14. I think it was the last ferry she *ever* went on. Everything afterwards was Chunnel or fly.
Did Bergen -> Newcastle in a F8. Watched the latest Bond film in the cinema, which was below decks at the bow.
Was full at the start. I think there were 5 of us left at the end.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
Ones in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
I think one outcome from this may be that a deal may be cut with the lawyers. Are they still working to rule, or whatever the lawyerly term is for that?
Is there a hope that something might be done around scheduling in Courts and time lost waiting?
(I may have lost track I admit ... have not kept track of the legal profession's ructions.)
Off to the low countries for a week. It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door. Remarkably easy and agreeable though. I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around. I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see. I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.
Choose your season, well, and forecast carefully.
We did that on the overnight version, and a North Sea Force 8 Gale is horrible.
All of the toilets and sinks throughout the ship were blocked and clogged and half full of sick, which was also over a lot of the floors. And the ones in our cabin.
At the time mum was around 43, and I was around 14. I think it was the last ferry she *ever* went on. Everything afterwards was Chunnel or fly.
Ferries have got more comfortable in heavy seas in the past few decades thanks to active stabilisation.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
Perhaps one of the most amusing consequences of the court delays from the pandemic, has been the various disruptive campaigners see their friends get serious prison time, when their own case is still a year away and they’ve been picked up again for more disruption in the meantime.
People, even villains, respect the judiciary, but the way things are going, it might only be a question of time before one radical group or other takes revenge on magistrates or judges handing out exemplary sentences.
The PIRA tried that. Hence Diplock courts.
So the story goes, the first time they tried to murder a judge with an RPG-7, they fired it inside a small van. Took a few days to work out what had happened.
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
Does that include, in Louise's mind, all Thatcher-era suburban and rural voters who wanted to destroy the union movement for about 30 years, well into the New Labour era ?
No ? What a surprise, n'esr-ce-pas.
I don't know Louise Perry's work; but I'm interested that as well as being a DM writer, she also has a column in the New Statesman.
There were two injured on the videos (which showed both on the same video). Both with head injuries. One was bleeding profusely but walking wounded. The other was down and in a bad way being treated by paramedics.
Scalp wounds tend to bleed profusely as the sides of the wound are pulled apart, and then any blood looks dramatic as it pours down the face.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
But let's keep this all in perspective.
We are not days away from civil war as some breathless right of centre commentators want to us to believe.
As I mentioned previously, we aren't even at the 2011 stage, where for a couple of days the police had genuinely totally lost control.
One thing that I did sort of chuckle at, about what pillocks we have in society and how social media has change things, as soon as somebody sets light to something, its out comes the cellphone and its selfie time. Fight the power, fight the elites, must get it for the gram. And provide plenty of evidence for the police.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
If I recall correctly, Gujurati immigrants were mainly Hindu with a Muslim minority.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
The Telegraph now has an unusually useful article on how Channel 3, the online source that originally spread the incorrect rumour, is linked to Russia.
Perhaps the Telegraph might have learnt something, following Brexit.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
If I recall correctly, Gujurati immigrants were mainly Hindu with a Muslim minority.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
Missed a bit:
Gujurati Muslims were heavily persecuted in post-partition India, including community riots in the late 1960s. R4 has done at least one programme I listened to years ago about it.
Here's a report of community riots in 2002, which killed 700 - sparked by Hindu Nationalism. R4 "Assignment" - THIS is why we need the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ghtmv
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
But let's keep this all in perspective.
We are not days away from civil war as some breathless right of centre commentators want to us to believe.
As I mentioned previously, we aren't even at the 2011 stage, where for a couple of days the police had genuinely totally lost control.
One thing that I did sort of chuckle at, about what pillocks we have in society and how social media has change things, as soon as somebody sets light to something, its out comes the cellphone and its selfie time. Fight the power, fight the elites, must get it for the gram. And provide plenty of evidence for the police.
Yes. Isn't that hilarious? Last thing I'd be doing is recording evidence of my presence at a crime scene on my own phone. I wouldn't even take it. But then. Facial recognition, surveillance State, chainsaw down cameras, etc.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
If I recall correctly, Gujurati immigrants were mainly Hindu with a Muslim minority.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
Missed a bit:
Gujurati Muslims were heavily persecuted in post-partition India, including community riots in the late 1960s. R4 has done at least one programme I listened to years ago about it.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
If I recall correctly, Gujurati immigrants were mainly Hindu with a Muslim minority.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
There are quite a lot of Muslim Gujeratis, both East African and from Gujarat directly in Leicester. I work with a number of them, one from Blackburn. I went to his wedding there some 25 years ago, and there was a substantial Cutchi community hall and a thousand guests, Cutchi being a Muslim area of Gujerat, so must be a significant Gujerati community there.
I believe the millworkers recruited directly from mill towns in Gujerat, as there were experienced textile workers, not rural farmers.
Anyways. Had quite a month with my mind. More accurately almost a year. Finally got the medication I've been asking, cajoling, begging for today. And everything is same same but different. Time has slooooooowed down. It's all OK. Haven't got a job for September. But that's all right. Hope I haven't hurt too many along the way...
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
Perhaps one of the most amusing consequences of the court delays from the pandemic, has been the various disruptive campaigners see their friends get serious prison time, when their own case is still a year away and they’ve been picked up again for more disruption in the meantime.
People, even villains, respect the judiciary, but the way things are going, it might only be a question of time before one radical group or other takes revenge on magistrates or judges handing out exemplary sentences.
The PIRA tried that. Hence Diplock courts.
So the story goes, the first time they tried to murder a judge with an RPG-7, they fired it inside a small van. Took a few days to work out what had happened.
Diplock courts were judge-only. Even unionist politicians disliked Diplock courts. As they said, the problem wasn't juries but witness intimidation.
As for the future, it is hard to attack crown court judges. You can run into magistrates in the supermarket of a Saturday. The point is that up to now, people have accepted, even respected, the system. In future they might not, especially with exemplary sentences being by definition at one extreme, and ideological rather than criminal motivation and self-justification.
PB quiz. Name the three people mentioned in that song (individually, so Beatles don't count) who are still alive. Without Googling.
Bernie Getz, Bob Dylan
One to go.
Bardot?
This was a quiz question at my local recently.
She's alive but not in it. Remarkably.
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev.
Gosh! You're right. Profuse apologies. I've never registered that bit of the lyrics as hearing what it is written down in print!
So there’s actually four still alive.
Apparently so. Sorry!
That’s awesome. I’m doing a pub quiz in a couple of weeks, standing in for the regular idiot who’s on holiday, and I now have the question for my first four points.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police offer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Certainly useful for those pushing the TwoTierKeir hashtag.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.
Quite a few seem to be on the 16-20 category, from the pictures.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
Even NI never got as far as full civil war (although it was close). Entrenched sectarianism is a major problem .
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
One's in Bolton were largely Muslims from Gujurat. A viciously persecuted minority who could be relied on to not complain. Mill work made learning the language next to redundant.
I think their being muslims is less important that they were from a rural peasant life and just parachuted in.
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
If I recall correctly, Gujurati immigrants were mainly Hindu with a Muslim minority.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
Missed a bit:
Gujurati Muslims were heavily persecuted in post-partition India, including community riots in the late 1960s. R4 has done at least one programme I listened to years ago about it.
Here's a report of community riots in 2002, which killed 700 - sparked by Hindu Nationalism. R4 "Assignment" - THIS is why we need the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ghtmv
It sounds like a mini-Rwanda in some ways.
Or perhaps more accurately a mini-Bosnia. Sectarian politics followed by organised violence aimed at Balkanisation of communities.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Do you accept that the Southport Stabber is NOT a Muslim and did NOT come over in a small boat?
PB quiz. Name the three people mentioned in that song (individually, so Beatles don't count) who are still alive. Without Googling.
Bernie Getz, Bob Dylan
One to go.
Bardot?
This was a quiz question at my local recently.
She's alive but not in it. Remarkably.
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev.
Gosh! You're right. Profuse apologies. I've never registered that bit of the lyrics as hearing what it is written down in print!
So there’s actually four still alive.
Apparently so. Sorry!
That’s awesome. I’m doing a pub quiz in a couple of weeks, standing in for the regular idiot who’s on holiday, and I now have the question for my first four points.
Just hope they all hang on till then! For clarity, as they are named in the song Bardot, Chubby Checker, Dylan and Bernie Goetz.
Re the likes of Time and Telegraph doing articles on Russian disinformation. One thing they miss and was widely documented by the expert that Obama hired during the end of his time in the White House to look into what the Russians were up to. It isn't a one side thing, they run the same tactics across all angles.
The examples given in the US is they would have Facebook groups say for mostly Black church goers and then also have ones for mostly White church goes. And these groups for 90% of the time would be posting Christian things and information about local events etc, as you would expect, then every so often they would slip in a story about a black person being beaten by a white gang on the one group and vice versa on the other group. Sometimes true stories, sometimes fake ones.
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
I think one outcome from this may be that a deal may be cut with the lawyers. Are they still working to rule, or whatever the lawyerly term is for that?
Is there a hope that something might be done around scheduling in Courts and time lost waiting?
(I may have lost track I admit ... have not kept track of the legal profession's ructions.)
More Govt. spending, no doubt.
All in all, this Labour government are looking likely to run out of other people's money faster than ever before.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Do you accept that the Southport Stabber is NOT a Muslim and did NOT come over in a small boat?
Leon has a great view of the disturbances in northern England. from his hotel in France. Our man on the spot.
2 arrests in Leicester, both far right, including this fellow:
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Do you accept that the Southport Stabber is NOT a Muslim and did NOT come over in a small boat?
Of course. That was always ridiculous misinfo
Indeed if you followed TwiX you could see clever online sleuths unmasking the real culprit within 24 hours. I knew who it was by then. I didn’t say it on here for obvs
Someone thinks that this is the top of the market. In contrast David Hunter seems to think this correction will be reversed with a final blow off high before stockmageddon next year
Well phone sales aren't going great, they haven't done very well on new revolutionary products since Johny Ive left. They binned the car, the wank goggles aren't really a game changer, everybody else is catching up with the ARM chip advantage and the phones, ipads etc are just tiny revisions every year that nobody needs. Maybe just doesn't see mega growth anytime soon.
Re the likes of Time and Telegraph doing articles on Russian disinformation. One thing they miss and was widely documented by the expert that Obama hired during the end of his time in the White House to look into what the Russians were up to. It isn't a one side thing, they run the same tactics across all angles.
The examples given in the US is they would have Facebook groups say for mostly Black church goers and then also have ones for mostly White church goes. And these groups for 90% of the time would be posting Christian things and information about local events etc, as you would expect, then every so often they would slip in a story about a black person being beaten by a white gang on the one group and vice versa on the other group. Sometimes true stories, sometimes fake ones.
Joe Rogan has been going about this for years, that 19 of the top 20 Christian Facebook pages were being run by the Russians.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police offer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Certainly useful for those pushing the TwoTierKeir hashtag.
Within a year Starmer could be less popular than Truss. Despite their majority, I think this will be a feeble clueless one term Labour govt
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Do you accept that the Southport Stabber is NOT a Muslim and did NOT come over in a small boat?
Of course. That was always ridiculous misinfo
Indeed if you followed TwiX you could see clever online sleuths unmasking the real culprit within 24 hours. I knew who it was by then. I didn’t say it on here for obvs
obvs being that you had no way of telling which name was correct?
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
I think one outcome from this may be that a deal may be cut with the lawyers. Are they still working to rule, or whatever the lawyerly term is for that?
Is there a hope that something might be done around scheduling in Courts and time lost waiting?
(I may have lost track I admit ... have not kept track of the legal profession's ructions.)
More Govt. spending, no doubt.
All in all, this Labour government are looking likely to run out of other people's money faster than ever before.
What does it cost to keep the 16,500 people who are the current remand population in prison?
And how much money is being wasted when 1/3 of them will either be found not guilty, or will not receive a prison sentence?
At ~60k a year per pop, it is about a £1bn per annum afaics.
Some of that money could perhaps be better spent elsewhere?
And how much value to the economy has been unnecessarily lost?
Re the likes of Time and Telegraph doing articles on Russian disinformation. One thing they miss and was widely documented by the expert that Obama hired during the end of his time in the White House to look into what the Russians were up to. It isn't a one side thing, they run the same tactics across all angles.
The examples given in the US is they would have Facebook groups say for mostly Black church goers and then also have ones for mostly White church goes. And these groups for 90% of the time would be posting Christian things and information about local events etc, as you would expect, then every so often they would slip in a story about a black person being beaten by a white gang on the one group and vice versa on the other group. Sometimes true stories, sometimes fake ones.
Joe Rogan has been going about this for years, that 19 of the top 20 Christian Facebook pages were being run by the Russians.
All Sounds like a conspiracy that would require an awful lot of people to run it.
Senator McCarthy was convinced the Russians were up to similar things in the 1950s.
Someone thinks that this is the top of the market. In contrast David Hunter seems to think this correction will be reversed with a final blow off high before stockmageddon next year
Who knows exactly when ? But companies like Nvidia are due a major correction at some point.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Do you accept that the Southport Stabber is NOT a Muslim and did NOT come over in a small boat?
Of course. That was always ridiculous misinfo
Indeed if you followed TwiX you could see clever online sleuths unmasking the real culprit within 24 hours. I knew who it was by then. I didn’t say it on here for obvs
obvs being that you had no way of telling which name was correct?
Obvs in that the name actually given out fitted the few eye witness descriptions and the vague info about his background
So I knew it wasn’t Ali Al apartment and I guessed the other much more African name was highly likely to be correct
Re the likes of Time and Telegraph doing articles on Russian disinformation. One thing they miss and was widely documented by the expert that Obama hired during the end of his time in the White House to look into what the Russians were up to. It isn't a one side thing, they run the same tactics across all angles.
The examples given in the US is they would have Facebook groups say for mostly Black church goers and then also have ones for mostly White church goes. And these groups for 90% of the time would be posting Christian things and information about local events etc, as you would expect, then every so often they would slip in a story about a black person being beaten by a white gang on the one group and vice versa on the other group. Sometimes true stories, sometimes fake ones.
Joe Rogan has been going about this for years, that 19 of the top 20 Christian Facebook pages were being run by the Russians.
All Sounds like a conspiracy that would require an awful lot of people to run it.
Senator McCarthy was convinced the Russians were up to similar things in the 1950s.
In modern era, not at all. Its very easy to run many twitter accounts / facebook groups. You can automate a lot of it. Businesses do it all the time.
Someone thinks that this is the top of the market. In contrast David Hunter seems to think this correction will be reversed with a final blow off high before stockmageddon next year
Buffett buys and keeps generally, rather than trying to catch market peaks and troughs, so more likely a strategic decision based on fundamentals.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police offer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Certainly useful for those pushing the TwoTierKeir hashtag.
Within a year Starmer could be less popular than Truss. Despite their majority, I think this will be a feeble clueless one term Labour govt
If the left turn on them and the unions demand 22% payrises for everyone, then they may not last that long.
Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc - multiple screeds on the awful far right thugs. And there has been some awful far right thuggery - no question. It needs vehement calling out
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
Does the other half of their brain also ask "Why aren't they reporting on the Sudan war? Or jfc - what the hell is happening in Myanmar? Or why the tax/benefit system is so punitive?". If only there was a plucky journalist around who could put things in context via a latterly widely-read gazette.
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1) population drops to 10% - pressure on housing, public services reduced
2) population of Luton is now sociopathic space faring, slightly radioactive zombie cannibals. Which is a massive improvement.
We are not days away from civil war as some breathless right of centre commentators want to us to believe.
Hot weather, anger, and bored youth are always quite a mix, as in the Summer of 1976.
The important thing is just to have a good perceived reason to run riot, which doesn't need to be consistent.
Stayed on a farm near Velje. Had a stiff neck at Legoland. Was a plague of ladybirds and Dad caught an unfeasibly big carp which the farmer's wife cooked for tea. Had my first freshly pressed apple juice. Lush. As was farmer's daughter.
Pornography for sale everywhere. Went to Elsinore and saw Sweden. Hans Christian Anderson's house. Tivoli Gardens. Little Mermaid statue was very little.
That's what I know.
We did that on the overnight version, and a North Sea Force 8 Gale is horrible.
All of the toilets and sinks throughout the ship were blocked and clogged and half full of sick, which was also over a lot of the floors. And the ones in our cabin.
At the time mum was around 43, and I was around 14. I think it was the last ferry she *ever* went on. Everything afterwards was Chunnel or fly.
Name the three people mentioned in that song (individually, so Beatles don't count) who are still alive.
Without Googling.
While Thatcher condemned the Brixton Riots, she also instigated the Scarman enquiry which found that they had been provoked.
I doubt we will see such this time though, but it is sorely needed. We have a lumpen proletariat of about 20-30% of the population that are unloved and despised by the upper and middle classes as thick deplorables, with no prospect of anything other than a McJob and paying most of their rent for crap accomodation or a life on benefits.
We also have very insular communities who were imported, mostly from a peasant existence in rural Mirpur in Pakistan, to work in northern mills as cheap labour, due to the local area having particular skills related to such mills. They were then largely abandoned to their own devices barely a decade later, when said mills shut and high unemployment/low pay/benefits ever since has followed.
The combination is utterly toxic and has resulted in segregation and mutual resentment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_Against_the_Sexual_Revolution
Edit: did not read properly
This was a quiz question at my local recently.
Was full at the start. I think there were 5 of us left at the end.
Fun...
Is there a hope that something might be done around scheduling in Courts and time lost waiting?
(I may have lost track I admit ... have not kept track of the legal profession's ructions.)
So the story goes, the first time they tried to murder a judge with an RPG-7, they fired it inside a small van. Took a few days to work out what had happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1NCODA3ZE
Remarkably.
He got all sorts of dire warnings and the players were all sent ID.
I don't imagine the venue is a problem but they'll all be booked into local hotels...
Much the same would have happened if large numbers of villagers from Thomas Hardy's Dorset had been transported in a time machine and put to work in 1960s northern mills. They would at least have spoken something approximating the same language.
But her arguments are quite coherent.
A "thinking tradwife" perhaps.
We’re only five years away from that 40-year history lesson being 40 years old.
Still one to go, mind. We have Dylan and Bernie Goetz (the Subway Shooter) so far.
By contrast. Everyone mentioned in Madonna's Vogue is now dead.
An event embraced by all sections of the city's community.
One thing that I did sort of chuckle at, about what pillocks we have in society and how social media has change things, as soon as somebody sets light to something, its out comes the cellphone and its selfie time. Fight the power, fight the elites, must get it for the gram. And provide plenty of evidence for the police.
They tended to be business people. It was Gujuratis who were the group that took over a lot of corner shops.
Many of the Asians who came from Uganda were also Gujuratis.
I'm not sure about details of the Muslim minority. When I was learning about British Muslims it tended to be Muslims from Pakistan who had come in groups from identifiable villages; this was in West Yorkshire.
Around half of the United Kingdom's 1.3 million Indians have roots in Gujarat. Gujaratis have contributed significantly to British Indian and broader British culture. Gujaratis are known for having revitalized corner shops and being relatively prosperous among immigrant groups in the United Kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Gujaratis
Perhaps the Telegraph might have learnt something, following Brexit.
I promise, no matter how much you think are, you are not ready for the sound of her voice
https://x.com/_billyreid/status/1819813834837709187
Ignoring the causes of crime.
Gujurati Muslims were heavily persecuted in post-partition India, including community riots in the late 1960s. R4 has done at least one programme I listened to years ago about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Gujarat_riots
Here's a report of community riots in 2002, which killed 700 - sparked by Hindu Nationalism. R4 "Assignment" - THIS is why we need the BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ghtmv
It sounds like a mini-Rwanda in some ways.
But then. Facial recognition, surveillance State, chainsaw down cameras, etc.
I believe the millworkers recruited directly from mill towns in Gujerat, as there were experienced textile workers, not rural farmers.
And everything is same same but different. Time has slooooooowed down. It's all OK.
Haven't got a job for September. But that's all right. Hope I haven't hurt too many along the way...
But not a single fucking mention of the many many videos of Muslims with machetes, of white people being brutalised, of the police officer politely asking Muslims to “please leave your weapons at the mosque”
This just won’t do. I don’t simply mean it’s wrong or bad I mean it is stupidly counterproductive. Anyone with half a brain can find this stuff on social media and will then ask: why aren’t they showing me THIS???
And thus the corrosion of trust continues
As for the future, it is hard to attack crown court judges. You can run into magistrates in the supermarket of a Saturday. The point is that up to now, people have accepted, even respected, the system. In future they might not, especially with exemplary sentences being by definition at one extreme, and ideological rather than criminal motivation and self-justification.
I might even play the song first…
For clarity, as they are named in the song Bardot, Chubby Checker, Dylan and Bernie Goetz.
The examples given in the US is they would have Facebook groups say for mostly Black church goers and then also have ones for mostly White church goes. And these groups for 90% of the time would be posting Christian things and information about local events etc, as you would expect, then every so often they would slip in a story about a black person being beaten by a white gang on the one group and vice versa on the other group. Sometimes true stories, sometimes fake ones.
All in all, this Labour government are looking likely to run out of other people's money faster than ever before.
2 arrests in Leicester, both far right, including this fellow:
https://x.com/TripleBarrelKid/status/1819792661634523634?t=FoDFsOY0S2istES24TXEiA&s=19
Indeed if you followed TwiX you could see clever online sleuths unmasking the real culprit within 24 hours. I knew who it was by then. I didn’t say it on here for obvs
Don Jnr.
Eric
Ivanka
Always wonder who buys them out of hours at a time like this?
Edit: "Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRKa) was aggressively cutting his exposure to equities in the second quarter, new filings showed.
The company's financial statements indicated that a net amount of $75.5 billion worth of stocks were sold in the three months through June."
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/warning-warren-buffet-is-selling-stocks-a-lot-3553497.
Someone thinks that this is the top of the market. In contrast David Hunter seems to think this correction will be reversed with a final blow off high before stockmageddon next year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Forte
Never heard of him, but a rollercoaster life.
And how much money is being wasted when 1/3 of them will either be found not guilty, or will not receive a prison sentence?
At ~60k a year per pop, it is about a £1bn per annum afaics.
Some of that money could perhaps be better spent elsewhere?
And how much value to the economy has been unnecessarily lost?
Senator McCarthy was convinced the Russians were up to similar things in the 1950s.
But companies like Nvidia are due a major correction at some point.
So I knew it wasn’t Ali Al apartment and I guessed the other much more African name was highly likely to be correct