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Labour up 10 points in Harrogate.
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UNS is completely and utterly shot. I have seen no evidence that it is not completely done this election.tlg86 said:
Oh for fuck sake!Scott_P said:@mshafiquk: BREAKING NEWS: conservatives say that Zac Goldsmith has won in Richmond Park, defeating Lib Dems Sarah Olney #GE2017
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They are still reviewing the initial BC proposals and have not issued the revised proposals yet , another 15 months or so to go before the whole process is complete .notme said:
The order still needs to be approved does it not?rpjs said:
Precisely. AIUI the new boundaries are locked in and will apply for any general election from next year. It'd take primary legislation to undo them.DM_Andy said:Exit Poll had Tories
Sorry, what scheduled 2020 election?rpjs said:
They have, but the new boundaries don't come into effect until next year. Well in time for the scheduled 2020 election.AR404 said:Why the hell didn't they do the boundaries when they had the chance? What a mess, no chance of that now, they've preserved Labour for a generation
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Tories hold Richmond would be better than expectedScott_P said:@mshafiquk: BREAKING NEWS: conservatives say that Zac Goldsmith has won in Richmond Park, defeating Lib Dems Sarah Olney #GE2017
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The same Cameron who promised no tax increases, spending increases across the board and whose government borrowed hundreds of billions more than it forecast it would.JonathanD said:
Except Cameron was able to win in 2015 after 5 years of austerity. Indeed he made a virtue of sound money.HYUFD said:
No, this was an anti austerity vote, not an anti Brexit vote, soft Brexit maybesurbiton said:
It is dead in the water !!!Bobajob_PB said:ARE WE WITNESSING THE END OF BREXIT?
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Yes, they've certainly done a fine job on that so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:It is to be hoped the moderates in labour keep a check on Corbyn
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May now a laughing stock - 'the fresh air on that walking holiday went to her head'0
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I am scrambling for the life rafts now. Bet big time on Tory comfortable win.MaxPB said:
Yes it certainly looks that way. They will need the DUP for sure.rottenborough said:I am betting now on a Tory minority,
Jezza. When will politics become normal and staid again?
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Yeah, she votes with Labour more often than nought.Sunil_Prasannan said:Lady Sylvia holds North Down - think she may be pro-Labour?
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It can be revokedDavid_Evershed said:Article 50 already triggered. So too late.
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Yes but Zac won it instead.HYUFD said:
Tories hold Richmond would be better than expectedScott_P said:@mshafiquk: BREAKING NEWS: conservatives say that Zac Goldsmith has won in Richmond Park, defeating Lib Dems Sarah Olney #GE2017
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Rutherglen — number 92 on Labour's target list:
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No shit.David_Evershed said:And the winner is ..... YOUGOV.
A lot of posters need to send apologetic emails to Peter Kellner.0 -
Fuck me that is bad for the SNP. SNP down more than Lab up. -15%!!0
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It has to be said, some of the campaigning material that was being put about in London was bizarre. All about the best person to negotiate Brexit.surbiton said:
Because May talked only about Brexit. She took Tory voters for granted.JonathanD said:
Except Cameron was able to win in 2015 after 5 years of austerity. Indeed he made a virtue of sound money.HYUFD said:
No, this was an anti austerity vote, not an anti Brexit vote, soft Brexit maybesurbiton said:
It is dead in the water !!!Bobajob_PB said:ARE WE WITNESSING THE END OF BREXIT?
And the 18-24 year olds turned out.
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That is a surprise.HYUFD said:
Tories hold Richmond would be better than expectedScott_P said:@mshafiquk: BREAKING NEWS: conservatives say that Zac Goldsmith has won in Richmond Park, defeating Lib Dems Sarah Olney #GE2017
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Yes, yes, yes!Scott_P said:@JamieRoss7: John Curtice says the Rutherglen gain for Labour suggests the SNP is in for a night of "quite substantial losses".
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Brexit is gone...finished...garroted....The_Apocalypse said:Hard Brexit has died.
All we need is taxes to go not up massively for most people in this country, and I'm happy.0 -
Ruth is going to be the only good Tory news it seems.0
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SLAB take Glasgow?hunchman said:
SNP going to be in for an absolute pastingnot_on_fire said:Lab gain Rutherglen!
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May and Corbyn next PM about to cross on BF0
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I'm staying up to take it all...Bobajob_PB said:0 -
It might be that Zac Goldsmith has kept JC out of Downing Street.0
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LOL. How many times have you privately apologised to me in the past? Including 'withdrawing' a job contact I'd never even asked for.Casino_Royale said:
Can we not get personal against other posters please?JosiasJessop said:
And your Conservatives.MarqueeMark said:Looking like a horrible night for the SNP
You fucked Cameron, and fucked yourselves in the process.
Please accept we're all tired and emotional - for different reasons - at the moment. People are blowing off.
I'm loving this.0 -
No he isn't, he will still be behind the Tories on seats, the SNP are also taking a pasting, most likely is Tory minority government, Hammond PM, with LD and DUP confidence and supply if necessaryGIN1138 said:Brexit's dead in the water, that much is for certain. It's over!
Corbyn likely to be Prime Minister in the days ahead.
How he lives up to the hope and expectation the Millennials have placed on him god only knows,0 -
Sturgeon first leader to resign?0
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Surely IDS and Villiers are on shaky ground?0
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UNS is dead0
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No chance. Off the end of the pier bonkers...Dura_Ace said:
Yes, they've certainly done a fine job on that so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:It is to be hoped the moderates in labour keep a check on Corbyn
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Pro-Unionist tactical voting.Paristonda said:Fuck me that is bad for the SNP. SNP down more than Lab up. -15%!!
Good news for Ms Swinson.0 -
The exit poll figured they'd get at least one there.foxinsoxuk said:
SLAB take Glasgow?hunchman said:
SNP going to be in for an absolute pastingnot_on_fire said:Lab gain Rutherglen!
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Nothing is off the table until the next election.tyson said:
Brexit is gone...finished...garroted....The_Apocalypse said:Hard Brexit has died.
All we need is taxes to go not up massively for most people in this country, and I'm happy.0 -
With Lab and Con gains, it is hard to see Lib Dems gaining seats other than in Scotlandshire.0
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rather similar *to*, that should say there.WhisperingOracle said:
Except, that the continent's leaders and euro-parliamentary parties are watching the situation very carefully. They know that a deferred decision and process, hopefully forever, would be hugely in the Bloc's geo-political and financial interest.GeoffM said:
There will be no consensus in Parliament and no strong hand to guide negotiations.kjohnw said:
why?GeoffM said:
No. This will mean harder Brexit.Bobajob_PB said:ARE WE WITNESSING THE END OF BREXIT?
We'll end up leaving with no deal now.
This might be something rather similar the ridiculous game-playing with Turkish membership *into* the Union, but in reverse.0 -
I take it fully on the chin and hope out of this that we can end up with a goverment in the national interest and would expect that we will end up staying in the EUOUT said:Stay up you tory ankers, take it on the chin.
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Is this a revival for the SNP in Scotland? If so, I never expected it.0
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Con up by 12% in the Scottish seat!0
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If IDS goes then that is the Portillo moment.Typo said:Surely IDS and Villiers are on shaky ground?
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That manifesto is a lot more moderate than Corbyn's and McMao's views, so they have.Dura_Ace said:
Yes, they've certainly done a fine job on that so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:It is to be hoped the moderates in labour keep a check on Corbyn
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Not for a long time.rottenborough said:Jezza. When will politics become normal and staid again?
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Now we know why Nicola panicked. She was worried about a raft of SLab gains. Hmm.0
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Labour have threaded the needle in Rutherglen.0
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I'm so depressed right now. I've only been a PB Tory for 14 hours and the world has come crashing down.
David Cameron, you were right about everything. I really liked the coalition too, and now the top figures are all gone.0 -
The LDs won't C&S Hammond to push Brexit through. Indeed they won't really want any deal with the Tories at all.HYUFD said:
No he isn't, he will still be behind the Tories on seats, the SNP are also taking a pasting, most likely is Tory minority government, Hammond PM, with LD and DUP confidence and supply if necessaryGIN1138 said:Brexit's dead in the water, that much is for certain. It's over!
Corbyn likely to be Prime Minister in the days ahead.
How he lives up to the hope and expectation the Millennials have placed on him god only knows,0 -
Zac G could be good bet for next leader0
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Labour has just owned the Remain vote, and added the nativist Labour anti-Tory leave vote.Danny565 said:Labour up 10 points in Harrogate.
HARROGATE!!!
You have to say that Corbyn's strategy of being equivocal on Brexit was right.
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Yes she is.Sunil_Prasannan said:Lady Sylvia holds North Down - think she may be pro-Labour?
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You would lose your bet to williamglenn, and vindicate him.SeanT said:If Brexit is cancelled then I want us all in. Join Schengen. EU army, direct elections to the EU commission and an EU president. The works. In or out.
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Labour doing well in Basingstoke....Basingstoke in Hampshire omg0
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Whether they go up or not the result is going to be the same.The_Apocalypse said:Hard Brexit has died.
All we need is taxes to go not up massively for most people in this country, and I'm happy.
We're all going to become poorer.
The magic money trees we've been shaking since 2000 are running out of leaves.0 -
That is how I see itkle4 said:
How? He was right about everything and won when not even his own people thought he would - they will be beholden to him.Big_G_NorthWales said:It is to be hoped the moderates in labour keep a check on Corbyn
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@iainjwatson: The reason rutherglen is significant is that labour sources briefed me on the few Scottish seats they hoped to win and this wasn't one0
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At least the SNP are taking a bit of a pasting in Scotland.
That's something.0 -
Are you sure. If Conservatives are losing places like Putney and Witney?HYUFD said:
No he isn't, he will still be behind the Tories on seats, the SNP are also taking a pasting, most likely is Tory minority government, Hammond PM, with LD and DUP confidence and supply if necessaryGIN1138 said:Brexit's dead in the water, that much is for certain. It's over!
Corbyn likely to be Prime Minister in the days ahead.
How he lives up to the hope and expectation the Millennials have placed on him god only knows,0 -
Lady Sylvia run close by DUP0
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Corbyn fav PM on BF
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IDS won't go. I was supposed to be at the count tonight, and was told that anything but 2 Lab & 1 Con from Waltham forest would be a political earthquake.not_on_fire said:
If IDS goes then that is the Portillo moment.Typo said:Surely IDS and Villiers are on shaky ground?
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I wonder what the SNP will seek for supporting a minority Labour administration.0
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If Corbyn becomes PM, even of a minority, then he's a dictator. He's seen off opposition both intra- and extra- his party. He's the boss.
Well done to him. A relatively brilliant campaign.0 -
Corbyn has been clear on Brexit. As Laura K pointed out why should it be assumed Ukip voters would all go Tory? You've got a perfectly good Eurosceptic in Corbyn. Combined with the Russell Brand/Lily Allen vote it's quite powerful.0
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Before Corbyn she wasGeoffM said:
Yes she is.Sunil_Prasannan said:Lady Sylvia holds North Down - think she may be pro-Labour?
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David_Evershed said:
With Lab and Con gains, it is hard to see Lib Dems gaining seats other than in Scotlandshire.
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Scotland - no such place as Scotlandshire but it is lateDavid_Evershed said:With Lab and Con gains, it is hard to see Lib Dems gaining seats other than in Scotlandshire.
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This is NOT a vote against Brexit, except in Remain areas (which are a minority of the country), elsewhere it is a vote against austerity, public sector cuts and inequality, that is the mood Corbyn has caught after 7 years of cuts. This result may well end austerity as much as it ends hard Brexit, soft Brexit is still likely. In Scotland it is a vote against indyref2David_Evershed said:0 -
Harrogate changes:
Con +2.7%
LD +1.4%
Lab +9.9%
Ind +1.0%0 -
Sell ICM sharessurbiton said:
Because May talked only about Brexit. She took Tory voters for granted.JonathanD said:
Except Cameron was able to win in 2015 after 5 years of austerity. Indeed he made a virtue of sound money.HYUFD said:
No, this was an anti austerity vote, not an anti Brexit vote, soft Brexit maybesurbiton said:
It is dead in the water !!!Bobajob_PB said:ARE WE WITNESSING THE END OF BREXIT?
And the 18-24 year olds turned out.
Where is Martin Boon now ?
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I think we will stay in the EU now. The pressure to do it will be hugr0
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Peter Hain not endorsing Corbyn as a Prime Minister0
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+12% Conservative in Rutherglen wasn't tactical.rcs1000 said:
Pro-Unionist tactical voting.Paristonda said:Fuck me that is bad for the SNP. SNP down more than Lab up. -15%!!
Good news for Ms Swinson.0 -
I've got 6 grand of student debt, I do hope Corbyn will write it all off.0
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tyson. I'm speaking to you honestly here. PB Tories think Corbyn will be economically a disaster for us.tyson said:
Brexit is gone...finished...garroted....The_Apocalypse said:Hard Brexit has died.
All we need is taxes to go not up massively for most people in this country, and I'm happy.
What do you think? Do you think it's just an exaggeration?
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Thank you, Ruth ! LOL.AndreaParma_82 said:Rutherglen & Hamilton West
Lab 37.5 (+2.3)
SNP 37 (-15.5)
Con 19.5 (+12)0 -
Can't wait for the polling inquest after this election. ICM and ComRes reputations trashed0
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Indeed, it's why hard Brexit is dead. I think we'll end up with a second referendum with EEA/EFTA vs hard Brexit as part of the compromise for LD support on the Brexit deal.IanB2 said:
The LDs won't C&S Hammond to push Brexit through. Indeed they won't really want any deal with the Tories at all.HYUFD said:
No he isn't, he will still be behind the Tories on seats, the SNP are also taking a pasting, most likely is Tory minority government, Hammond PM, with LD and DUP confidence and supply if necessaryGIN1138 said:Brexit's dead in the water, that much is for certain. It's over!
Corbyn likely to be Prime Minister in the days ahead.
How he lives up to the hope and expectation the Millennials have placed on him god only knows,0 -
People were confusing Eurosceptic and Europhobic.FrankBooth said:Corbyn has been clear on Brexit. As Laura K pointed out why should it be assumed Ukip voters would all go Tory? You've got a perfectly good Eurosceptic in Corbyn. Combined with the Russell Brand/Lily Allen vote it's quite powerful.
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Vauxhall constituency turnout 77% - Kate Hoey Constituency- Labour team feeling v confident despite fierce Lib Dem campaign #GE2017
I hope so.
Turnout 72% in Dulwich and 71% in Streatham.0 -
Tories to win Berwickshire, Dumfries & Galloway, Aberdeenshire West, Aberdeen South, Edinburgh SW, Perth & N Perthshire
Moray, East Lothian, Refrewshire East???0 -
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@Mike_Blackley: Labour think they've won E Lothian as well as Rutherglen and expect Ian Murray to secure majority of more than 10,000 in Edinburgh South.0
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Why don't Ed Balls and George Osborne just run the country?
These guys are wasted outside the Commons, and are clearly good friends.0 -
We're a team up in Scotland. I really do hope the SNP underperform the exit poll!surbiton said:
Thank you, Ruth ! LOL.AndreaParma_82 said:Rutherglen & Hamilton West
Lab 37.5 (+2.3)
SNP 37 (-15.5)
Con 19.5 (+12)0 -
There's goes my 500-1 free bet.Garza said:
Yeah, she votes with Labour more often than nought.Sunil_Prasannan said:Lady Sylvia holds North Down - think she may be pro-Labour?
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PM Corbyn practically Evens on Betfair!
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The SNP are hopefully getting fucked below 30! Yipee.0
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I have 25k of student debt.Pulpstar said:I've got 6 grand of student debt, I do hope Corbyn will write it all off.
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There's going to be quite a race in a crowded field.....Paristonda said:Sturgeon first leader to resign?
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Clegg looking increasingly beaten
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Haha "live" resultsLordSummerisle said:Best website for love results?
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Well the urban-rural polarisation is happening.0
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George Osborne warns that the Tories are facing disaster in the south. Labour looking certain to be the biggest party.0
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IndyRef 2AlastairMeeks said:I wonder what the SNP will seek for supporting a minority Labour administration.
Single Market membership
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Labour to GAIN Ipswich?0
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Every pollster makes mistakes. But what really grates was that ICM guy sounding so arrogant that he was right, and trashing any pollsters showing more optimistic results for Labour.not_on_fire said:Can't wait for the polling inquest after this election. ICM and ComRes reputations trashed
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Yeah to be fair it was always assumed that UKIP was taking votes off Tories but in 2015 they took more votes off LabourFrankBooth said:Corbyn has been clear on Brexit. As Laura K pointed out why should it be assumed Ukip voters would all go Tory? You've got a perfectly good Eurosceptic in Corbyn. Combined with the Russell Brand/Lily Allen vote it's quite powerful.
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