Analogies can be drawn with Feb 1974 and July 1970, when incumbent Governments were both surprisingly defeated. But by far the greatest parallel is December 1923, when the new Tory Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin called a sudden, snap, unnecessary election on the question of Britain's global trading relationship. To the shock of the establishment, he lost badly and ushered in the first Labour administration, led by Ramsay MacDonald, a man who was often painted as extreme and unpatriotic.
The exit poll is right overall - where it is wrong is in the wild swings it projected in individual seats - Wrexham actually not bad for CON, we were never going to win Wrexham
When Cameron went i was depressed, even more so now. Parliament looks bare of talent, we have a best of a bad bunch on the Tory side and a fabulist on the Labour. I hope this propogates people to enter politics.
Of hard Brexit for sure. Remember, Corbyn is a Leaver and most of his manifesto requires leaving the EU. I think we'll end up with a Tory minority having to put through soft Brexit under a centrist PM.
The exit poll is right overall - where it is wrong is in the wild swings it projected in individual seats - Wrexham actually not bad for CON, we were never going to win Wrexham
There will be no consensus in Parliament and no strong hand to guide negotiations.
We'll end up leaving with no deal now.
That could be horrible. Don't forget, the EU also has trading arrangements with a bunch of other countries and we could we'll likely crash out of those too.
too many Pb comments, i'm just skipping to the last page on each thread. What's the PB consensus so far? tory minority govt, lab coalition of chaos, or tory eeking out a majority?
Tory minority govt
Sorry Sean but Tory sub 300 and labour minority government. Brexit dead
Who will support a minority Corbyn government?
Snp
Also the LibDems on a case by case basis. As in the Lib-Lab pact ~1976-79; Labour had a majority of about 1.
There will be no consensus in Parliament and no strong hand to guide negotiations.
We'll end up leaving with no deal now.
Except, that the continent's leaders and euro-parliamentary parties are watching the situation very carefully. They know that a deferred decision and process, hopefully forever, would be hugely in the Bloc's geo-political and financial interest.
This might be something rather similar the ridiculous game-playing with Turkish membership *into* the Union, but in reverse.
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Lab +12.1
Con +9.3
Plaid -4.7
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OmJVW05bWEn2a9ak4BJGe_6Jm_u2qdN9DK0GqqeV8Gg/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0
You fucked Cameron, and fucked yourselves in the process.
Stupid shitty projection based on inadequate data.
Lab +11.7
Con +12
labour up 12%
tories +9%
plaid -5%
ukip -13%
looks bad for plaid in next door constiteency of Carmarthen & east dinefwr
UKIP are NOT Tory voters in disguise!!
I hope this propogates people to enter politics.
We'll end up leaving with no deal now.
The swing in Remainia will be pretty hefty.
Con +2.2
Lab +9.1
Maj 4.8%
Labour gain rutherglen
Article 50 already triggered. So too late.
Wow!
Corbyn likely to be Prime Minister in the days ahead.
How he lives up to the hope and expectation the Millennials have placed on him god only knows,
Lab 37.5 (+2.3)
SNP 37 (-15.5)
Con 19.5 (+12)
All we need is taxes to go not up massively for most people in this country, and I'm happy.
This might be something rather similar the ridiculous game-playing with Turkish membership *into* the Union, but in reverse.
Chapeau to @SeanT and @MaxPB for staying up and sticking the knife in.
They were right all along.
And the 18-24 year olds turned out.
Where is Martin Boon now ?