This is the worst possible result, but all I can see on facebook is "huh, huh at least the Tories won't win". Labour or Tory government is better than no government!
The people have vindicated May's stance: No government is better than a bad government.
Exit poll identical to last time suggests the eventual result will be the same as last time: a small Tory majority.
Interest in the detail: I'm certain from canvassing in Birmingham that Labour hasn't done very well in the Midlands and North. Therefore Labour has made big % gains in the South and London and some (very) surprising gains. Also, the Tories must've won quite a lot of SNP seats, so the Tories have actually gone backwards in England overall.
If this exit poll is right, then it is difficult to see how the Tories can govern on the basis of hard Brexit. So will political expediency prevail, and will the Tories ditch May in favour of someone with a more pragmatic approach? If so, who?
Soft Brexit now. And May will be gone as soon as politically possible.
Well, if the exit poll is accurate or very close, I'm not sure how Theresa May can survive as leader. Surely the Backbench will want her out fast unless the majority is at least as large as Cameron, and even that May not be enough...
This exit poll is bollocks. This is 1992 all over again.
How far out was it in 1992? Because unless it is by 50 Con seats, we won't have a result which resulted in a more stable situation than the one we started with.
Exit poll identical to last time suggests the eventual result will be the same as last time: a small Tory majority.
Interest in the detail: I'm certain from canvassing in Birmingham that Labour hasn't done very well in the Midlands and North. Therefore Labour has made big % gains in the South and London and some (very) surprising gains. Also, the Tories must've won quite a lot of SNP seats, so the Tories have actually gone backwards in England overall.
Crazy.
BBC figures suggest no difference in regional swings.
However that might be where it is wrong, if it is.
Ming Campbell rules out Labour deal with Corbyn or deal with Tories because of hard Brexit, so it looks that if the exit poll is right the Tories will have to agree to a soft Brexit if they want LD support
If this is the result we surely be doing all this again fairly shortly?
If it is wrong slightly in Tory fabour, they have a narrow majority and can keep going much as they did before. If it is wrong toward Labour's favour, them despite no coalition it will be a progressive alliance arrangement under PM Corbyn.
This is the worst possible result, but all I can see on facebook is "huh, huh at least the Tories won't win". Labour or Tory government is better than no government!
The people have vindicated May's stance: No government is better than a bad government.
But it isn't though, passing mediocre laws is better than no laws at all! This isn't a game, we have the shitshow that is Brexit coming up and having a triumvirate government is appalling. I would prefer Corbyn or Farron being PM.
If this is the result we surely be doing all this again fairly shortly?
If it is wrong slightly in Tory fabour, they have a narrow majority and can keep going much as they did before. If it is wrong toward Labour's favour, them despite no coalition it will be a progressive alliance arrangement under PM Corbyn.
And what happens when one single piece of manifesto promise doesn't go through for Labour, there would be anarchy.
If this exit poll is right, then it is difficult to see how the Tories can govern on the basis of hard Brexit. So will political expediency prevail, and will the Tories ditch May in favour of someone with a more pragmatic approach? If so, who?
Soft Brexit now. And May will be gone as soon as politically possible.
Quite possibly right on both, possibly PM Hammond with LD support he would have a majority but would inevitably be a UKIP surge too and that could put Corbyn in No 10 next time. Politically may be more sensible for the Tories to go into opposition if this exit poll is right, put Boris in as opposition leader on a hard Brexit platform and let Corbyn deal with the EU and agree concessions on immigration, 100 billion euros etc
If this exit poll is right, then it is difficult to see how the Tories can govern on the basis of hard Brexit. So will political expediency prevail, and will the Tories ditch May in favour of someone with a more pragmatic approach? If so, who?
Soft Brexit now. And May will be gone as soon as politically possible.
Quite possibly right on both, possibly PM Hammond with LD support he would have a majority but would inevitably be a UKIP surge too and that could put Corbyn in No 10 next time. Politically may be more sensible for the Tories to go into opposition if this exit poll is right, put Boris in as opposition leader on a hard Brexit platform and let Corbyn deal with the EU and agree concessions on immigration, 100 billion euros etc
You've got to be joking if you think that would be a winner. Brexit is dead in the water.
Delurking to ask how the PB Tories imagined that a campaign this vacuous and this inept would have no electoral consequences? If that were true, we might as well do away with election campaigns altogether.
I think it was Tory Remainers in the Remain cities that will have been a big factor. People could live with a new policy on social care.
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Interest in the detail: I'm certain from canvassing in Birmingham that Labour hasn't done very well in the Midlands and North. Therefore Labour has made big % gains in the South and London and some (very) surprising gains. Also, the Tories must've won quite a lot of SNP seats, so the Tories have actually gone backwards in England overall.
Crazy.
Not happening now!
Cashed out all bets
Thanks PB Tories for being so bullish.
And maybe the way Momentum packed the panels was by the cunning ruse of converting the electorate...
Tories are relying on Lynton. So so heavily.
However that might be where it is wrong, if it is.
It looks as if I'm quids in and the drinks are on me tonight.
Lada for May
The error could have gone the other way this time around.
This would kill off hard Brexit. That's why it can't be right. It would be too good to be true.
SLAB taking Glasgow and Paisley seats will suit my finances nicely. I put a fiver or more on each on SLAB at 10-20.
I would prefer Corbyn or Farron being PM.
Need to outperform Exit by 13.
Hope he gets sacked
Tosser
The rumour that Rudd is in trouble in Hastings fits with the reports that Labour was doing well in SE and SW.
P.S. It gives me no joy to say this but about 3 hours ago, I did predict this. Well I posted 335 +/- 20 Seats which is out by 1.
If this exit poll is true, it also shows that people aren't listening to DM and The Sun anymore, which is good news:)
I think it came from DUP headquarters several miles away.....
YIPEEEE!!
Might the exit poll be wrong? Absolutely, and one way in which it might be is postal ballots.