If this exit poll is right, then it is difficult to see how the Tories can govern on the basis of hard Brexit. So will political expediency prevail, and will the Tories ditch May in favour of someone with a more pragmatic approach? If so, who?
Soft Brexit now. And May will be gone as soon as politically possible.
Quite possibly right on both, possibly PM Hammond with LD support he would have a majority but would inevitably be a UKIP surge too and that could put Corbyn in No 10 next time. Politically may be more sensible for the Tories to go into opposition if this exit poll is right, put Boris in as opposition leader on a hard Brexit platform and let Corbyn deal with the EU and agree concessions on immigration, 100 billion euros etc
You've got to be joking if you think that would be a winner. Brexit is dead in the water.
On what grounds? 17 million voted for Brexit and even if some did switch to Corbyn tonight they were certainly not doing it to stop Brexit but to reduce inequality, tax the rich more, reverse austerity etc. If a coalition did actually completely reverse Brexit UKIP could even do an SNP 2015 next time. Brexit has to happen, even if it is now only soft Brexit
If it's wrong then it's probably only going to be wrong in the sense that they only just have a majority, probably less than with they started with before the election.
It was peculiar - so many of us were so certain that meant no early election would happen. The Tories didn't seem prepared, it really seems like they saw the big poll leads and just went for it. The fools.
There's nothing wrong with making use of an opportunity, providing you have done the preparation. That was the mistake, not calling an election.
Changes the narrative to what sort of Brexit we want. So long as we're looking at no progressive alliance (please god no) maybe everyone can come together and try and step back from the extreme.
They should dump May though. Proven to be useless.
Do you expect the SNP to want any sort of Brexit aside from none?
I put some money on Amber Rudd for next Tory leader and she might not even be an MP. It'd be ironic if she was saved by the few people who voted for Nicholas Wilson.
BBC says Labour would gain Warwick and Leamington, Enfield Southgate etc looks like Tory Remain marginals going Labour. Tories gain Wrexham, Clwyd South, Delyn, Tories doing better in Wales and Scotland than England
All these people saying "now it's soft Brexit". Could somebody explain what "soft Brexit "means?
EEA/EFTA.
Plus leaving free movement unchecked + 100 billion euros to EU to stay in single market, Hammond could do it with LD backing but Farage would not believe his luck and would swiftly take back the leadership from Nuttall
Con+SNP would give a more workable majority than Con+LD.
Delurking to ask how the PB Tories imagined that a campaign this vacuous and this inept would have no electoral consequences? If that were true, we might as well do away with election campaigns altogether.
I think it was Tory Remainers in the Remain cities that will have been a big factor. People could live with a new policy on social care.
Yes, she made absolutely no attempt to reach out to remainers. Looks like it might have cost her her job - and rightly so.
I did share that email I got last night from the candidate which talked about being on the verge of a sensational result. Still don't believe it, though.
All these people saying "now it's soft Brexit". Could somebody explain what "soft Brexit "means?
EEA/EFTA.
Plus leaving free movement unchecked + 100 billion euros to EU to stay in single market, Hammond could do it with LD backing but Farage would not believe his luck and would swiftly take back the leadership from Nuttall
Con+SNP would give a more workable majority than Con+LD.
The Tories would rather do a deal with Labour than the SNP, I certainly would
The only reason I say that is because the Labour council pushed a lot of locally unpopular policies, even though David Burrowes is a dick head, he should win.
All these people saying "now it's soft Brexit". Could somebody explain what "soft Brexit "means?
It means Brexit kicked into the long grass.
That's crazy. We had a referendum won by Leave. We have a general election in which both major parties are committed to respecting the referendum result. And then having got the vast majority of seats they conspire to stop it????
Remainers (of which I was one) never seem to think things through.
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Or indeed at any time...
That's not good.
Commiserations to TP.
Finchley? Do me a flavour...
No Con losses to LD.
*hollow laugh*
Con GAIN all 4 Lab seats in NE Wales
Maybe people have thought 'these guys aren't great but the status quo is cnutish - roll the dice'?
LOL
Wow - some amazing results.
England has let the Tories down.
Remainers (of which I was one) never seem to think things through.
'Do you know what kind of biscuits Theresa May likes?'
Kippers not backing Soubry.
This is a good thread
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/872930308043231234