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Agh. Nicky Mor*n on the BBC. Going to have to watch Sky. (Until she goes over to their studio.)0
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Just as long as Khan wins London I am not bothered (I have £100 bet on him. I may have mentioned that)TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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Perhaps that could be the new Clause 4.Tom said:
To make a load of wankers feel better about themselves whilst offering worse than nothing to the people they claim to represent.chestnut said:It's one thing for Corbyn to lose the WWC vote to UKIP, but if he can't lock in the student/middle class Lib Dem/Green vote, what is the point of him?
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Bit late for thatTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
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@BBCsarahsmith: Scottish Labour tonight saying they thought they had already hit rock bottom but it turns out they may have further to fall yet0
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BBC News
Alex Salmond
"There would have to be a second referendum if we are dragged out of Europe against our will"
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Taxi for Kezia?Scott_P said:@BBCsarahsmith: Scottish Labour tonight saying they thought they had already hit rock bottom but it turns out they may have further to fall yet
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Former Labour MP describes Scottish campaign as "Self immolation for Dummies"0
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Bikeoxfordsimon said:Taxi for Kezia?
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Go on then...TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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Everything goes in cycles Mortimer!Mortimer said:
You're sounding like Hunchman.Danny565 said:
That goes against political history, though. Every sitting government almost always gets its best results of an electoral cycle in the first year after a General Election -- the only exception was the 1979-83 cycle, where the Falklands Factor pushed Tories to a better performance in 1982 than they got in 1980.RobD said:
Your argument is based on the premise that the "cycle" is defined by the general elections. The 2012 elections were probably more influenced by the ominshambles budget, rather than the fact it was a year from the previous election.
How are you even going to make comparisons in wards where no election took place in 2011?
This electoral cycle rubbish is also pointless because only recently did we regularise the general elections to every 5 years.
You want to compare to 2011 because comparison to 2012, when the same wards and councils were contested and thus the obvious comparator, is going to make Labour look like a hopeless political party.0 -
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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Not surprised if turnouts are down. Here in Birmingham there was almost no inkling that any elections were going on. If Ian Kershaw was trying to kill democracy in the city, he seems to have succeeded...0
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Thanks to Henry and Tissue Price, I'm on both main candidates at 33/1 and 22/1TGOHF said:
Bit late for thatTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
I would like Khan to win, keeps Corbyn in place and gives us a fascinating by election in Tooting.0 -
I always think it tastes a bit metallic. Nothing beats a nice Scotch.foxinsoxuk said:The large Cognac in front of me (purely for medicinal purposes) is proving that the frogs still get somethings right.
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I feel a LibDem surge welling up.
Voted for them twice today. Haven't done that for 20 years or so.0 -
Edinburgh Southern 3 way Tory SNP Labour according to Sky. About the only constituency Labour can win in Scotland tonight it seems!0
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General Election @UKGE2020
Current state of English councillors (0.23am)
Labour 59 (+4)
LibDems 6 (-1)
Cons 4 (0)
Indy 3 (-3)0 -
Neil Hamilton has arrived at the count in Llanelli0
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Lucky you! Have a Fleurie or a Brouilly for me.SeanT said:
Yep, the cheeses are still fab. Marvellously diverse.MTimT said:
At least the regional cheeses are still very French and superb!SeanT said:
Also agreed (tho the English spoken down here in the Rhone Valley is still lamentable.MTimT said:
I'd agree. In the 90s, finding a French person speaking English outside of international business, diplomacy or science was hard to do. In this trip to Lille, hardly the cosmopolitan hub of France, I was struck by the fact that almost everyone in the hospitality industry (hotels, restaurants, coffee shops and sanwicheries, spoke English and WANTED to practice it!!! Even the people at the rail station ticket counter and information booth spoke English, I was stunned.SouthamObserver said:
Hong Kong is full of young French people these days, all speaking good English. I think the younger generation there is much less Francophone than their elders. They seem much more outward-looking.
The French are certainly friendlier and keener to please. They've lost the last of that aloofness, the inbred sense of superiority. Decline has maybe made them nicer. A fine irony.
Where in the Rhone?
I'm in the Beaujolais. And very nice it is, apart from the tucker.0 -
On BBC4 TOTP81 is playing the Birdy song with people dressed as birds
On BBC2 John McDonnell is expecting steady Labour progress towards 2020
There is only so much crazy I can take.
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John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.0
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If he pulls this off, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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If the Tories beat Labour in Scotland tonight then it will just be a return to the 1950's when they outpolled Labour in the 1951, 1955 and 1959 general elections:
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Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse · 9m9 minutes ago
Craig Woodhouse Retweeted Mike Gapes
It's complex.
Craig Woodhouse added,
Mike Gapes @MikeGapes Labour losing seats in first year of opposition after Tory fiasco of recent weeks is very bad where is Straight talking, honest politics ?
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What a surprise, Middle England not massive Corbyn fans! Shame.TheScreamingEagles said:Nuneaton!!! Oh happy memories
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Who have you switched from?philiph said:I feel a LibDem surge welling up.
Voted for them twice today. Haven't done that for 20 years or so.0 -
Are they editing all the yewtrees out?foxinsoxuk said:
A more obscure one.Plato_Says said:
Are they playing Enola Gay especially for Labour?foxinsoxuk said:
Turn over for 1981 ToTP on BBC4. Great stuff from OMD.RobD said:
Just can't make myself watch Sky.. I'm a terrible PB Tory.HYUFD said:
BBC actually better so far in getting results out than Sky, obviously someone has been reading PB!numbertwelve said:Come on Sky, let's get results reported
Wish the BBC had added the actual majority on their graphics when they listed the marginal/safe seats in order of majority.
I love the costumes and hair of the forgotten acts and songs, and the gawky audience. A great window into the past.
I happened to watch an episode of Camberwick green with my lad the other night (thanks, Radiohead!).
He loved it
Is Brian Cant still OK to like, untainted by the disease of the 70s?0 -
Hereditary peerage, surely.TheScreamingEagles said:
If he pulls this of, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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UKIP having a good night seems to be the narrative on the BBC at the moment. Might change when we get some actual results.0
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Royal DukedomRobD said:
Hereditary peerage, surely.TheScreamingEagles said:
If he pulls this off, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
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Meh, my tip isn't even in the money any more. Though pleasingly I have managed to lay Sadiq 50%+ on 1st prefs at under 4/6 today.TheScreamingEagles said:
Thanks to Henry and Tissue Price, I'm on both main candidates at 33/1 and 22/1TGOHF said:
Bit late for thatTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
I would like Khan to win, keeps Corbyn in place and gives us a fascinating by election in Tooting.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
If he pulls this off, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
Wasn't aware of any of Crosby's clients finishing 7th
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@gabyhinsliff: Tory MPs must be literally fighting to do election night telly. 'Yes, I think it IS a bad night for Labour, since you mention it...'0
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Robert Harris quipped earlier that McIRA reminds him of a Met police chief.Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
I think he's dangerously plausible.0 -
Tory at all (I think) elections since 1997, that was my first Tory vote. From 1971 to 96 a mix of 80% lib / libdem and labour / ind. a couple of timesPlato_Says said:
Who have you switched from?philiph said:I feel a LibDem surge welling up.
Voted for them twice today. Haven't done that for 20 years or so.0 -
Well done, just think in a few hours time, there'll markets on the 2020 London Mayoral Election.Tissue_Price said:
Meh, my tip isn't even in the money any more. Though pleasingly I have managed to lay Sadiq 50%+ on 1st prefs at under 4/6 today.TheScreamingEagles said:
Thanks to Henry and Tissue Price, I'm on both main candidates at 33/1 and 22/1TGOHF said:
Bit late for thatTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
I would like Khan to win, keeps Corbyn in place and gives us a fascinating by election in Tooting.
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Net change of councillors so far - Lab +4, LD -1, Con 0, UKIP 0, Ind -30
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You have my sympathies - I do hope timely medical intervention can help.philiph said:I feel a LibDem surge welling up.
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Premier League meh.Tom said:TheScreamingEagles said:
If he pulls this off, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
Wasn't aware of any of Crosby's clients finishing 7th
Europa League is where it's at.0 -
Labour surge!HYUFD said:Net change of councillors so far - Lab +4, LD -1, Con 0, UKIP 0, Ind -3
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Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
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Alan Roden @AlanRoden
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Changes in Newcastle with all 26 results in:
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LD -4.9%
UKIP +13.2%
Con +1.4%
Greens +2.1%
Ind +0.5%
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Conservatives hold Havant0
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Adam and the Ants!0
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Now I have to disagree from a Labour-pessimist POV!Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Corbyn atleast comes across as a nice enough guy, McDonnell comes across as quite slippery and unpleasant. Not to mention his ties to terrorists are deeper than Corbyn's ties (and certainly much more than the laughable claims of Sadiq Khan's "links").0 -
Issue with McDonnell is he completely lacks judgement and is very easy to wind up - little red book incident not an aberration.HYUFD said:
Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
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Perhaps Cameron knew exactly what he was doing when he savaged Corbyn this week.
I was going to bed, but this is to delicious to miss.0 -
for man u fans it'll be something to do on Thursdays.... nice for them to see Europe finally...TheScreamingEagles said:
Premier League meh.Tom said:TheScreamingEagles said:
If he pulls this off, then Sir Lynton Crosby = Jurgen KloppScrapheap_as_was said:
Given the miracle of last year, I'm giving Betfair punters circa £125 of the profits back tonight by doing exactly that... and cos Montie has been sticking the knife in to Zac tonight. Now that is a contra-indicator.TheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
Wasn't aware of any of Crosby's clients finishing 7th
Europa League is where it's at.0 -
If he ends up a bit short the heavy Jewish area that couldn't vote is going to be a total clusterfuck...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Labour hold Wolverhampton0
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Blairites won't stand for that.HYUFD said:
Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Would trigger SDP Mk II.
Only reason that Corbyn is still in place is because of his incompetence.0 -
@JamieRoss7: It's "squeaky bum time" for the SNP in Edinburgh Central, says source. Lots of Green constituency votes which they didn't expect.0
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Nicky Morgan is rubbish0
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nice touch McDonnell having a little chair next to nicky morgan so she's the david owen to his david steel0
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One day we'll find something we agree on.Danny565 said:
Now I have to disagree from a Labour-pessimist POV!Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Corbyn atleast comes across as a nice enough guy, McDonnell comes across as quite slippery and unpleasant. Not to mention his ties to terrorists are deeper than Corbyn's ties (and certainly much more than the laughable claims of Sadiq Khan's "links").
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Did they stand in the constituency? I thought they were only on the lists?Scott_P said:@JamieRoss7: It's "squeaky bum time" for the SNP in Edinburgh Central, says source. Lots of Green constituency votes which they didn't expect.
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London LDs believe Sadiq Khan has won the Mayoralty
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Top trolling TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:Chortle, from 2014
https://twitter.com/labourpress/status/532847279691288576
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McDonnell is frightening
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Conservatives hold Broxbourne. Sorry Nick.0
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Labour have gained a seat from Conservatives in Weymouth and Portland Melcombe Regis ward0
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Tories hold Broxbourne - yawn0
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Are you a sentimental romantic without the courage of you convictions?Floater said:
I was going to give all 3 of my votes to Lib Dems - I got in the booth and gave 2 to the blues - sorry Lib Dems!philiph said:I feel a LibDem surge welling up.
Voted for them twice today. Haven't done that for 20 years or so.
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Indeed but if Corbyn is assassinated McDonnell is the closest the membership can get to him and as you say he is more competent than Jezza, he could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDSSeanT said:
I'm not sure the new Labour membership will vote en masse for McDonnell, tho. He hasn't got that "authentic" feel that Corbyn offers, the vest and megaphone shtick which made Jezbollah so popular.HYUFD said:
Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Despite being arguably even further Left, McDonnell seems "smoother", polished, more Blairy. This will put off many.0 -
@JournoStephen: Scottish Labour is in open warfare as @IanMurrayMP accuses @Thomas_Docherty of "briefing against everyone" in Labour live on @STVNews.0
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mighty Hertfordshire blue stronghold, we don't like the red army in those parts... I think you confuse it with the stow.DavidL said:Conservatives hold Broxbourne. Sorry Nick.
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Sunderland changes with all 25 results in, compared to 2012:
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Con +1.3%
UKIP +6.3%
LD +1.4%
Greens +1.6%
Ind -4.0%
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What sort of swing Lab/Con is needed to give Zac the job? We look to be in the ballpark using my guessing stick.TheScreamingEagles said:Nuneaton!!! Oh happy memories
https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/728364444267483136
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they had a fine choirScrapheap_as_was said:
we don't like the red army in those parts....DavidL said:Conservatives hold Broxbourne. Sorry Nick.
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Corbyn also comes across as ineffectual though, which I think is his biggest problem of all (there's some competition, admittedly). McDonnell doesn't have the same hapless air about him.Danny565 said:
Now I have to disagree from a Labour-pessimist POV!Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Corbyn atleast comes across as a nice enough guy, McDonnell comes across as quite slippery and unpleasant. Not to mention his ties to terrorists are deeper than Corbyn's ties (and certainly much more than the laughable claims of Sadiq Khan's "links").
I think the more electable Conservative leaders (eg Cameron, May, even Boris) would easily beat a McDonnell-led Lab. Not sure about Gove.0 -
Iain Gray on BBC parliament from Haddington lol. You'd think after the pasting he took from Salmond all those years ago, he would have gracefully retired from the scene!0
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If Labour have lost every seat in Glasgow - GLASGOW FFS!!!- then let me stop you right there. Labour have ALREADY had a very bad night, whatever else happens.Scott_P said:@BBCsarahsmith: Labour seem pretty sure they have lost every Glasgow constituency seat and fear a very bad night across Scotland.
That's like the Republicans losing Utah. It's just explody-head stuff.0 -
London is not Nuneaton!foxinsoxuk said:
What sort of swing Lab/Con is needed to give Zac the job? We look to be in the ballpark using my guessing stick.TheScreamingEagles said:Nuneaton!!! Oh happy memories
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Where is the SDP Mk II going to win under FPTP, Blairites will not even be able to do a deal with Farron's LDs. They will have to grit their teeth and wait for Chuka in 2020Mortimer said:
Blairites won't stand for that.HYUFD said:
Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
Would trigger SDP Mk II.
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Hardly unexpected after the Labour wipeout there last year!MarqueeMark said:
If Labour have lost every seat in Glasgow - GLASGOW FFS!!!- then let me stop you right there. Labour have ALREADY had a very bad night, whatever else happens.Scott_P said:@BBCsarahsmith: Labour seem pretty sure they have lost every Glasgow constituency seat and fear a very bad night across Scotland.
That's like the Republicans losing Utah. It's just explody-head stuff.
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As of five minutes on betfair the "lay" figures for Khan were:Tissue_Price said:
Meh, my tip isn't even in the money any more. Though pleasingly I have managed to lay Sadiq 50%+ on 1st prefs at under 4/6 today.TheScreamingEagles said:
Thanks to Henry and Tissue Price, I'm on both main candidates at 33/1 and 22/1TGOHF said:
Bit late for thatTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to go balls deep on Zac?TGOHF said:
Titter !!TheScreamingEagles said:Fascinating from Sir Lynton's business partner
https://twitter.com/TextorMark/status/728361512901877760
I would like Khan to win, keeps Corbyn in place and gives us a fascinating by election in Tooting.
216.06 £3601@1.04
125.00 £2500@1.05
150.00 £2500@1.06
So if you bet 491.06 and Zac wins you'd get £8601. Still time if anybody's willing...0 -
Yes.FattyBolger said:Nicky Morgan is rubbish
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@wallaceme: John Mann on Sky: "We were all told Jeremy was going to be bringing these 5 million voters who haven't voted before...that hasn't happened."0
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Orkney comfortable LD hold - Labour vote 304 instead of 3004!0
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What will tonight's results mean re accuracy of current opinion polls?
OK, you could say locals are different to a GE.
But if Lab has underperformed polls then it may imply pollsters changes to methodologies haven't done the trick.0 -
Bbc got the labour spin press release ...difficult with new leader to make inroads yadda yadda yadda.0
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Dreadful staring eyes. Do try to stick around - always read your posts.FattyBolger said:Nicky Morgan is rubbish
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I doubt he would get to No 10 even if he did get the leadershipTom said:
Issue with McDonnell is he completely lacks judgement and is very easy to wind up - little red book incident not an aberration.HYUFD said:
Which is why I think it will be McDonnell, not Corbyn, who leads Labour in 2020Mortimer said:John McDonnell scares me rigid. His ability to peddle hard left (and frankly farcical) leadership lines in such a believable and, dare I say it, empathic way is far, far better than Corbyn.
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