I'm sorry Mike Smithson, as much as I love Lancashire, I am going to have to re-post my love of Italy from earlier in response to an attack on Italian cuisine (unthinkable)
I'm sorry...Italian cuisine is sublime. The simplicity. Provided you stay out of a tourist trap and keep to local trattorias, it is literally impossible to eat or drink badly in Italy.
For people who love food, wine, the weather, the landscape, the sea, mountains, the history...and the fact that Italians love the English. The hotels are great. The coffee. You can get to gigs in the summer for £20, and I mean top bands. The cakes, the grappa, the apperetivo....the fact that in summer everything comes to life. The sun, The walks. The quality of the hotels. The light...those wonderful Italian dusks and dawns. The sense of fun and happiness. And it's cheap.
Or you could go somewhere else. Why?
Italy is now, unquestionably, a much more appealing destination in terms of food and wine, from top to bottom.
France is still much better organised though, and the French have worked on their manners even as they've forgotten how to cook.
Also Corsica. Corsica is what France used to be. Surly, grumpy, but fucking beautiful and impossibly seductive and blessed with tremendous home made food. The last redoubt of Frenchness is the half Italian isle of Le Corse. Discuss.
I think there's a good case to be made that Italy has always been the true epicentre of European cuisine.
(That's to say, I think there are two truly great world centres of food. One is in Europe, the other South-east Asia. There's lots of brilliant food from elsewhere but those are the places, above all, where humans have really understood how to cook. For my money the pinnacle in Europe is Italy.)
Any sign of a London on-the-day YouGov? I was part of that.
Today is going to be the first election night in at least a decade that I haven't stayed up late for results. Not important enough to take the Friday off work as I did last year (and before that I did years of shift work). Weird feeling.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
It's simply not true any more, tho. Most French bistros now serve reheated frozen food.
I take no pleasure in this. I used to love going to France and anticipating the food. After this trip, which cements in place an uneasy impression that I'd already formed, I will never do that again. Sad.
Likely to three or four Con gains from Labour there ?
At least. Labour could lose all the seats they're defending. Usually their safest ward is Bolehall but last year their majority there was down to 125 votes.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
I have to disagree, though my visits to France have been confined to Normandy and the old battlefields - so the rest of France might be very different. Yes, the people are friendly, but overall the standards of food is pretty dire. There are some absolute gems of course and we have found a few, but pull up at a random Normandy eatery for lunch or dinner and the chances are you'd get a better meal at a random English pub or restaurant.
My neighbour, who is French (and so ought to know what he is talking about), was complaining about the state of French restaurant food only the other day. He told me that the French government are going to introduce a new law forcing restaurants to declare on the menu which dishes are bought-in boil-in-the-bag/microwave jobs. That the French government feels that such a law is necessary says a lot.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
It's simply not true any more, tho. Most French bistros now serve reheated frozen food.
I take no pleasure in this. I used to love going to France and anticipating the food. After this trip, which cements in place an uneasy impression that I'd already formed, I will never do that again. Sad.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
I have to disagree, though my visits to France have been confined to Normandy and the old battlefields - so the rest of France might be very different. Yes, the people are friendly, but overall the standards of food is pretty dire. There are some absolute gems of course and we have found a few, but pull up at a random Normandy eatery for lunch or dinner and the chances are you'd get a better meal at a random English pub or restaurant.
My neighbour, who is French (and so ought to know what he is talking about), was complaining about the state of French restaurant food only the other day. He told me that the French government are going to introduce a new law forcing restaurants to declare on the menu which dishes are bought-in boil-in-the-bag/microwave jobs. That the French government feels that such a law is necessary says a lot.
I had revolting - almost inedible stuff dished up in Dieppe. And at a variety of cafes. British stuff was more reliable in terms of higher quality.
But within sight of Corsica you have Sardegna.... The same landscape, probably better light, scenery. That turquoise sea. The beautiful people. Untouched, pristine beaches. Outside Cagliari, not a multi story hotel or building in site. Beautiful gardens,. Ichnusia beer. Vermentino wine. And the seafood.... The scoglio..... And the people are so friendly, and Anglophile.
For a seaside holiday, I could never, ever consider anywhere else...ever. I have to do 2 weeks in Sardinia every year. Mandatory. On a clear day, I can look across to Corsica mind and see just how beautiful that Island is too, but am just too happy, relaxed, chilled, fulfilled to be where I am. Being in Sardinia during summer...... it's like having a drip feed of E without any of the down effects.
I'm sorry Mike Smithson, as much as I love Lancashire, I am going to have to re-post my love of Italy from earlier in response to an attack on Italian cuisine (unthinkable)
I'm sorry...Italian cuisine is sublime. The simplicity. Provided you stay out of a tourist trap and keep to local trattorias, it is literally impossible to eat or drink badly in Italy.
For people who love food, wine, the weather, the landscape, the sea, mountains, the history...and the fact that Italians love the English. The hotels are great. The coffee. You can get to gigs in the summer for £20, and I mean top bands. The cakes, the grappa, the apperetivo....the fact that in summer everything comes to life. The sun, The walks. The quality of the hotels. The light...those wonderful Italian dusks and dawns. The sense of fun and happiness. And it's cheap.
Or you could go somewhere else. Why?
Italy is now, unquestionably, a much more appealing destination in terms of food and wine, from top to bottom.
France is still much better organised though, and the French have worked on their manners even as they've forgotten how to cook.
Also Corsica. Corsica is what France used to be. Surly, grumpy, but fucking beautiful and impossibly seductive and blessed with tremendous home made food. The last redoubt of Frenchness is the half Italian isle of Le Corse. Discuss.
So do we really have to wait until tomorrow evening before we know the London results? I've got my ladbrokes account up and itching. After the horrors of last year I'm not taking anything for granted.
I'm sorry Mike Smithson, as much as I love Lancashire, I am going to have to re-post my love of Italy from earlier in response to an attack on Italian cuisine (unthinkable)
I'm sorry...Italian cuisine is sublime. The simplicity. Provided you stay out of a tourist trap and keep to local trattorias, it is literally impossible to eat or drink badly in Italy.
For people who love food, wine, the weather, the landscape, the sea, mountains, the history...and the fact that Italians love the English. The hotels are great. The coffee. You can get to gigs in the summer for £20, and I mean top bands. The cakes, the grappa, the apperetivo....the fact that in summer everything comes to life. The sun, The walks. The quality of the hotels. The light...those wonderful Italian dusks and dawns. The sense of fun and happiness. And it's cheap.
Or you could go somewhere else. Why?
It's all true. Not as refined as French at its best but that's its charm. You can go anywhere and its lively fun and simple and it's uniformly good. Sometimes it feels like you've crept into a fellini film and that's when it's at its best. You're very lucky. So much better than Spain
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
I have to disagree, though my visits to France have been confined to Normandy and the old battlefields - so the rest of France might be very different. Yes, the people are friendly, but overall the standards of food is pretty dire. There are some absolute gems of course and we have found a few, but pull up at a random Normandy eatery for lunch or dinner and the chances are you'd get a better meal at a random English pub or restaurant.
My neighbour, who is French (and so ought to know what he is talking about), was complaining about the state of French restaurant food only the other day. He told me that the French government are going to introduce a new law forcing restaurants to declare on the menu which dishes are bought-in boil-in-the-bag/microwave jobs. That the French government feels that such a law is necessary says a lot.
I had some excellent seafood in Normandy last summer of course pub food is better than it was but in France you have a much better chance of getting a decent 3 or even 4 course meal at a reasonable price at lunchtime. The one area France has a huge advantage is service station food, you can get a good meat and vegetable dish and a tasty desert where in the UK you would be looking at a soggy pie and chips
On these figures Welsh Conservatives can still gain constituencies from Labour only to lose regional seats to UKIP. Their leader may be potentially at risk if they do well and gain both Cardiff North and Vale of Glamorgan
I am watching sky & they open with some homeless looking bloke with a red rossette on labours chances are. Look like he was going to cry at the nasty sky interviewer asking questions.
On these figures Welsh Conservatives can still gain constituencies from Labour only to lose regional seats to UKIP. Their leader may be potentially at risk if they do well and gain both Cardiff North and Vale of Glamorgan
If the polls put Labour on 30% they could well be in the high 20s going by how pollsters usually overestimate the party to at least some extent.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
It's simply not true any more, tho. Most French bistros now serve reheated frozen food.
I take no pleasure in this. I used to love going to France and anticipating the food. After this trip, which cements in place an uneasy impression that I'd already formed, I will never do that again. Sad.
It depends what you order too, the seafood in France tends to be excellent and the gesiers salads are always wonderful and I order them whenever they are on the menu
This is the first time I have logged in for a couple of weeks after my decision to withdraw from actively following the Euro ref, no tracking polls, no reading PB, no searching out of referendum articles in the quality press etc. This was for my own sanity as I was just getting too wound up and exercised by it all so elected to step back.
So basically I have been just picking up what comes naturally from 45 mins of radio 4 in the morning, occasional Metro on the train and perhaps 10 mins of News at 10 before bed. Other than that I have no idea of the recent daily highs and lows of the campaign. Perhaps like 95% of the popu;ation who are not politicos or nerds.
Anyway my conclusion is that most people will simply have no awareness of the toing and froing and are almost no-one is talking about it or showing any interest.
In two weeks the only 2 comments I have encountered are ear-wigging a train conversation about a retired Englishman living in Ireland who may take Irish citizenship if we leave EU and a most unexpected rant today by a young non-political lady of Indian origin at work (who will be voting Labour today because her local candidate is a neighbour who seems nice) about Obama's nerve at sticking his nose into our business. To my surprise,this was not appreciated at all. It really, really get her goat.
My conclusions? Dunno, Perhaps that this entire campaign is passing over peoples heads with little acknowledgement and less excitement. As such, the much vaunted blitzkrieg of REMAIN is just not filtering through. Attitudes may remain unchanged. And as those Brexit simply care more, in general, they will vote and they will win.
After tonight I will not be logging in again or lurking until Ref Night.
Yes, there's a truth in that. In some respects France has just been naturally overtaken by competitors, who learned from her pioneering supremacy, then applied her techniques with greater innovation or resources.
The same happened to the English/British with all the sports we invented. People copied us at football, then, thanks to sheer weight of numbers, we eventually got outstripped - there were bound to be countries which could beat us at football.
Yet the food in France, if I'm not mistaken, is a different case. It isn't just in relative decline (as is the case with the wine) - it's in absolute decline, actively getting a lot worse. Very odd. And rather sad.
I have always found you can eat very well in most French towns with a higher quality of food at a reasonable price than most British cafes, though at the top Michelin starred end the French supremacy may be over. Generally they are friendly, especially if you at least attempt to speak the language. Italy is a great country too but France has Paris, the Mediterrenean climate in the south and lots of history and is the most visited country in the world for a reason
I have to disagree, though my visits to France have been confined to Normandy and the old battlefields - so the rest of France might be very different. Yes, the people are friendly, but overall the standards of food is pretty dire. There are some absolute gems of course and we have found a few, but pull up at a random Normandy eatery for lunch or dinner and the chances are you'd get a better meal at a random English pub or restaurant.
My neighbour, who is French (and so ought to know what he is talking about), was complaining about the state of French restaurant food only the other day. He told me that the French government are going to introduce a new law forcing restaurants to declare on the menu which dishes are bought-in boil-in-the-bag/microwave jobs. That the French government feels that such a law is necessary says a lot.
I had revolting - almost inedible stuff dished up in Dieppe. And at a variety of cafes. British stuff was more reliable in terms of higher quality.
I agree but there is a restaurant in Dieppe that serves up absolutely spiffing seafood at surprisingly reasonable prices. It also has a very nice selection of affordable wines and a few bottles of not so affordable, but oh so drinkable, cognac tucked away for their friends. The H&DGTS, visit once a year and always has a splendid luncheon.
As I say there are gems in France if you can find them, just that most of it is below the standard one would expect from a pretty normal English pub or restaurant.
On these figures Welsh Conservatives can still gain constituencies from Labour only to lose regional seats to UKIP. Their leader may be potentially at risk if they do well and gain both Cardiff North and Vale of Glamorgan
Spot on. Could be knife edge stuff for them. They lost their leader last time in similar circumstances if I recall ( or was it the election before?) - they won a constituency in Mid Wales and lost a list seat as a result- the one the leader had.
Nothing about Italy is refined. Even when they try to be, it just ends up gauche or gaudy which adds to it's charm. Italy is frivolous, loud, colourful and joyous which all springs to life during summer.
In winter though......they all look grey, about twenty years older, and worn down by life. But summer is only ever six months away.
I'm sorry Mike Smithson, as much as I love Lancashire, I am going to have to re-post my love of Italy from earlier in response to an attack on Italian cuisine (unthinkable)
I'm sorry...Italian cuisine is sublime. The simplicity. Provided you stay out of a tourist trap and keep to local trattorias, it is literally impossible to eat or drink badly in Italy.
For people who love food, wine, the weather, the landscape, the sea, mountains, the history...and the fact that Italians love the English. The hotels are great. The coffee. You can get to gigs in the summer for £20, and I mean top bands. The cakes, the grappa, the apperetivo....the fact that in summer everything comes to life. The sun, The walks. The quality of the hotels. The light...those wonderful Italian dusks and dawns. The sense of fun and happiness. And it's cheap.
Or you could go somewhere else. Why?
It's all true. Not as refined as French at its best but that's its charm. You can go anywhere and its lively fun and simple and it's uniformly good. Sometimes it feels like you've crept into a fellini film and that's when it's at its best. You're very lucky. So much better than Spain
Not thinking much of the weird pressure gauge thing on sky.
It's just meaningless, isn't it? The best charts I see are the ones in the print editions of the FT and Washington Post. Very simple, mostly points of colour on a clear field, with not even a gridline in sight.
So do we really have to wait until tomorrow evening before we know the London results? I've got my ladbrokes account up and itching. After the horrors of last year I'm not taking anything for granted.
Yes. Any good late punts? I cannot see much to tempt.
Not thinking much of the weird pressure gauge thing on sky.
It's just meaningless, isn't it? The best charts I see are the ones in the print editions of the FT and Washington Post. Very simple, mostly points of colour on a clear field, with not even a gridline in sight.
This is the first time I have logged in for a couple of weeks after my decision to withdraw from actively following the Euro ref, no tracking polls, no reading PB, no searching out of referendum articles in the quality press etc. This was for my own sanity as I was just getting too wound up and exercised by it all so elected to step back.
So basically I have been just picking up what comes naturally from 45 mins of radio 4 in the morning, occasional Metro on the train and perhaps 10 mins of News at 10 before bed. Other than that I have no idea of the recent daily highs and lows of the campaign. Perhaps like 95% of the popu;ation who are not politicos or nerds.
Anyway my conclusion is that most people will simply have no awareness of the toing and froing and are almost no-one is talking about it or showing any interest.
In two weeks the only 2 comments I have encountered are ear-wigging a train conversation about a retired Englishman living in Ireland who may take Irish citizenship if we leave EU and a most unexpected rant today by a young non-political lady of Indian origin at work (who will be voting Labour today because her local candidate is a neighbour who seems nice) about Obama's nerve at sticking his nose into our business. To my surprise,this was not appreciated at all. It really, really get her goat.
My conclusions? Dunno, Perhaps that this entire campaign is passing over peoples heads with little acknowledgement and less excitement. As such, the much vaunted blitzkrieg of REMAIN is just not filtering through. Attitudes may remain unchanged. And as those Brexit simply care more, in general, they will vote and they will win.
After tonight I will not be logging in again or lurking until Ref Night.
The big problem with corbyn being useless is if Tories do fine & labour rubbish it might encourage Osborne to get his chopper out again with local council funding.
(That's to say, I think there are two truly great world centres of food. One is in Europe, the other South-east Asia. There's lots of brilliant food from elsewhere but those are the places, above all, where humans have really understood how to cook. For my money the pinnacle in Europe is Italy.)
With my heritage, I can't leave that unchallenged!
Middle eastern, and especially Persian, cuisine is superb. Buy this book:
As regards France vs Italy, the problem with Italian cuisine is that the meals as a whole are badly conceived. Superb dishes, yes, let down by a lack of coherent structure of the meal as a whole (whoever thought bunging pasta in between the hors d'oeuvre and the meat or fish course was a good idea?)
I'm sorry Mike Smithson, as much as I love Lancashire, I am going to have to re-post my love of Italy from earlier in response to an attack on Italian cuisine (unthinkable)
I'm sorry...Italian cuisine is sublime. The simplicity. Provided you stay out of a tourist trap and keep to local trattorias, it is literally impossible to eat or drink badly in Italy.
For people who love food, wine, the weather, the landscape, the sea, mountains, the history...and the fact that Italians love the English. The hotels are great. The coffee. You can get to gigs in the summer for £20, and I mean top bands. The cakes, the grappa, the apperetivo....the fact that in summer everything comes to life. The sun, The walks. The quality of the hotels. The light...those wonderful Italian dusks and dawns. The sense of fun and happiness. And it's cheap.
Or you could go somewhere else. Why?
It's all true. Not as refined as French at its best but that's its charm. You can go anywhere and its lively fun and simple and it's uniformly good. Sometimes it feels like you've crept into a fellini film and that's when it's at its best. You're very lucky. So much better than Spain
I doubt you have seen much of Spain to say that, Roger. As for France, I'd say the further west you go in France the better it gets, though the Jura is a special place. If you don't eat and drink well in Gascony or Brittany, say, you are doing something very wrong.
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(That's to say, I think there are two truly great world centres of food. One is in Europe, the other South-east Asia. There's lots of brilliant food from elsewhere but those are the places, above all, where humans have really understood how to cook. For my money the pinnacle in Europe is Italy.)
Today is going to be the first election night in at least a decade that I haven't stayed up late for results. Not important enough to take the Friday off work as I did last year (and before that I did years of shift work). Weird feeling.
http://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2012/330/
My neighbour, who is French (and so ought to know what he is talking about), was complaining about the state of French restaurant food only the other day. He told me that the French government are going to introduce a new law forcing restaurants to declare on the menu which dishes are bought-in boil-in-the-bag/microwave jobs. That the French government feels that such a law is necessary says a lot.
At higher resolution, is it possible to read all the text on the posters?
- no Ken
- no Hitler
They have all out elections today.
For a seaside holiday, I could never, ever consider anywhere else...ever. I have to do 2 weeks in Sardinia every year. Mandatory. On a clear day, I can look across to Corsica mind and see just how beautiful that Island is too, but am just too happy, relaxed, chilled, fulfilled to be where I am. Being in Sardinia during summer...... it's like having a drip feed of E without any of the down effects.
Const
L: 31%
C: 21%
PC: 19%
U: 16%
LD: 8%
Regional list
L: 30%
PC: 21%
Con: 19%
UKIP: 16%
LD: 6%
G: 4%
Good night all. Hope those staying up to enjoy the fun have a good one :-)
This is the first time I have logged in for a couple of weeks after my decision to withdraw from actively following the Euro ref, no tracking polls, no reading PB, no searching out of referendum articles in the quality press etc. This was for my own sanity as I was just getting too wound up and exercised by it all so elected to step back.
So basically I have been just picking up what comes naturally from 45 mins of radio 4 in the morning, occasional Metro on the train and perhaps 10 mins of News at 10 before bed. Other than that I have no idea of the recent daily highs and lows of the campaign. Perhaps like 95% of the popu;ation who are not politicos or nerds.
Anyway my conclusion is that most people will simply have no awareness of the toing and froing and are almost no-one is talking about it or showing any interest.
In two weeks the only 2 comments I have encountered are ear-wigging a train conversation about a retired Englishman living in Ireland who may take Irish citizenship if we leave EU and a most unexpected rant today by a young non-political lady of Indian origin at work (who will be voting Labour today because her local candidate is a neighbour who seems nice) about Obama's nerve at sticking his nose into our business. To my surprise,this was not appreciated at all. It really, really get her goat.
My conclusions? Dunno, Perhaps that this entire campaign is passing over peoples heads with little acknowledgement and less excitement. As such, the much vaunted blitzkrieg of REMAIN is just not filtering through. Attitudes may remain unchanged. And as those Brexit simply care more, in general, they will vote and they will win.
After tonight I will not be logging in again or lurking until Ref Night.
Cheers
FattyB
As I say there are gems in France if you can find them, just that most of it is below the standard one would expect from a pretty normal English pub or restaurant.
Lab 1046
UKIP 596
Con2 61
LD 91
Green 71
The one on the right says 'Local Starvation'. Do we know what year this is?
In winter though......they all look grey, about twenty years older, and worn down by life. But summer is only ever six months away.
Lab 1688
Con 506
Grn 451
The best charts I see are the ones in the print editions of the FT and Washington Post. Very simple, mostly points of colour on a clear field, with not even a gridline in sight.
Turnout down from 35% to 29.1%.
Oh well at least we can consign "it's been a terrrrrrrrribbblle night for the Tories" to the dustbin.
Or more likely NOT
That's the third different prediction for one seat so far
"new study has revealed drinking alcohol does make people happier."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3575563/Alcohol-DOES-make-happier-short-term-experts-warn.html#ixzz47p37Aj00
https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2016/01/8-4-2015_01a.png
Here's a FT chart which shows a pretty simple principle that you use as little colour and ornamentation as possible for information - though let's be honest, the election programmes are about entertainment:
http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/files/2016/04/Consumer_confidence_index-bar_chart-ft-web-themelarge-600x396.png
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/local-news/sunderland-local-elections-2016-council-11286818
Middle eastern, and especially Persian, cuisine is superb. Buy this book:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Legendary-Cuisine-Persia-Margaret-Shaida/dp/1902304608
As regards France vs Italy, the problem with Italian cuisine is that the meals as a whole are badly conceived. Superb dishes, yes, let down by a lack of coherent structure of the meal as a whole (whoever thought bunging pasta in between the hors d'oeuvre and the meat or fish course was a good idea?)