If he fulfills his promises Sky and BBC will have real competition
Hopefully GB News will be an alternative to the constant doom-mongering of both Sky News and BBC News channel.
Andrew Neil in a recent interview said rolling news is failed concept and GB News isn't looking to compete with them. If you want to know about breaking news, GB News isn't the place to go.
More importantly, covering breaking news is expensive. Much cheaper to have talking heads in a studio as your backbone.
Well tha too...but we know bugger all people watch the news channels. Sky News isn't viable.and has a tiny viewership. ITV News failed. BBC have cut back again because very small viewership.
Evidence of the likes of Victoria Derbyshire Show doesn't seem to think their is much of a market of studio shows either.
If they want to go further in their highly questionable messing around with conditional probability using such small samples, they might as well conclude from the right-hand two charts that if you're going to get infected with Delta than you'll be more likely to survive if you haven't been double-vaccinated.
If they want to go further in their highly questionable messing around with conditional probability using such small samples, they might as well conclude from the right-hand two charts that if you're going to get infected with Delta than you'll be more likely to survive if you haven't been double-vaccinated.
At least they are consistent in their mis-spelling of vaccinated.
Good riddance to Netenyahu . Another from the axis of evil to be shown the door . How fitting that Trump and his arselicker have gone in the space of a year .
Also struck today by how I could watch the G7 coverage without that awful feeling I used to get when Donald Trump was dominating and corrupting and trivializing everything with his persona and his antics. His exit due to WH2020 and consequent absence from the scene has really improved my quality of life. I can't say that about too many elections, especially foreign ones. Thanks, Joe. Thanks so much. Forever a fan. Forever in your debt.
What he is, and what he will always be as your next President, is Not Donald Trump. And that is what makes Joe Biden acceptable, under the circumstances.
oh come on how did trump impact your quality of life...he was an irrelevance
GB News made the classic toastmaster mistake - a long intro.
They should have gone straight into the lockdown issue IMO, grabbing the agenda.
Yes, they could have had some pro/anti guests have a big bust up.
I started to get annoyed when every Sky News paper review was to put the two most diametrically opposed people on the planet together to get them to review the papers.
If they want to go further in their highly questionable messing around with conditional probability using such small samples, they might as well conclude from the right-hand two charts that if you're going to get infected with Delta than you'll be more likely to survive if you haven't been double-vaccinated.
At least they are consistent in their mis-spelling of vaccinated.
Good riddance to Netenyahu . Another from the axis of evil to be shown the door . How fitting that Trump and his arselicker have gone in the space of a year .
Also struck today by how I could watch the G7 coverage without that awful feeling I used to get when Donald Trump was dominating and corrupting and trivializing everything with his persona and his antics. His exit due to WH2020 and consequent absence from the scene has really improved my quality of life. I can't say that about too many elections, especially foreign ones. Thanks, Joe. Thanks so much. Forever a fan. Forever in your debt.
What he is, and what he will always be as your next President, is Not Donald Trump. And that is what makes Joe Biden acceptable, under the circumstances.
oh come on how did trump impact your quality of life...he was an irrelevance
It is always the curse of these posts that people don’t recognise quotations.
GB News made the classic toastmaster mistake - a long intro.
They should have gone straight into the lockdown issue IMO, grabbing the agenda.
Yes, they could have had some pro/anti guests have a big bust up.
I started to get annoyed when every Sky News paper review was to put the two most diametrically opposed people on the planet together to get them to review the papers.
Actually, the paper reviews have become quite dull - not sure if that's because of lockdown. People arguing isn't always great, but during COVID it has been a bit "well I guess we need to do x..."
GB News made the classic toastmaster mistake - a long intro.
They should have gone straight into the lockdown issue IMO, grabbing the agenda.
Yes, they could have had some pro/anti guests have a big bust up.
I started to get annoyed when every Sky News paper review was to put the two most diametrically opposed people on the planet together to get them to review the papers.
Actually, the paper reviews have become quite dull - not sure if that's because of lockdown. People arguing isn't always great, but during COVID it has been a bit "well I guess we need to do x..."
Really? I can't say I watch it religiously but every one I've seen has featured someone clearly angling for a lockdown regardless of circumstance versus someone arguing the opposite regardless of circumstance.
If they also happen to be opposite sides of the Brexit debate you can guarantee repeat bookings.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
I don’t know how many international viewers they’ve got on the web stream, but they’d be better off using Google ads, rather than the U.K. ads for changing gas supplier and playing the lottery - which I guess are the same as on the broadcast stream.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days. BBC and Sky are all "breaking...breaking"...Boris went for a swim..."breaking breaking"...Macron gave Biden a hug. Especially Sky News coverage beyond this is piss poor.
The pandemic has shown too many who work on these channels are morons who are clueless and lazy.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight.
An old bloke in this bedroom taking about covid does better numbers than Sky, because he knows what he is talking about.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
Noise?
Aren't we getting a bit Nixon-esque here?
I don’t know. What do you mean?
I'm just remembering his quote about the rate of increase in inflation slowing down.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
Obviously Joe Rogan is a massive outlier, but even smaller scale the likes of Modern Wisdom is British bloke in his bedroom, does really good numbers. He has super interesting people on e.g. had the academic of rationality that Big Dom quotes repeatedly at the select committee, he has had experts in stocism, through to lighter stuff.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
Noise?
Aren't we getting a bit Nixon-esque here?
I don’t know. What do you mean?
I'm just remembering his quote about the rate of increase in inflation slowing down.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Not scared at all. Don’t see what problem it solves. You can get pretty much every opinion and all the ‘in depth analysis’ on the net. A pound shop Fox News adds little. Sites like PB killed this stuff.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
There’s some great content on Rogan. One problem I do think he has is the sheer volume of guests he has on means the quality of research is sometimes a bit lacking. Sky News is boring because most of the time it loops content every 30 minutes. GB News could be great if it follows the Rogan model.
And if it grabs by the horns what I think we agree are the two stories right now of much relevance. Both of which are being largely ignored in Britain: UAPs and Lab Leaks. Get on proper guests to talk about these things intelligently and in depth, without condescension.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
Noise?
Aren't we getting a bit Nixon-esque here?
I don’t know. What do you mean?
I'm just remembering his quote about the rate of increase in inflation slowing down.
I’m just posting the numbers.
Probably just noise, do you think?
I think you can only say something like that with confidence with the benefit of hindsight. It could shoot up again, or continue going down. I'd hate to have to make a decision based on them.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
Noise?
Aren't we getting a bit Nixon-esque here?
I don’t know. What do you mean?
I'm just remembering his quote about the rate of increase in inflation slowing down.
I’m just posting the numbers.
Probably just noise, do you think?
I think you can only say something like that with confidence with the benefit of hindsight. It could shoot up again, or continue going down. I'd hate to have to make a decision based on them.
They claim GB News is just going to be pound shop Fox News, lots of their hires don't seem to be a fit for such a role e.g. Colin Brazier, Gloria De Piero
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
The Firing Line interviews are the best. William Buckley is slightly odd, mind
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
"Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats."
Easy to fathom. Working-class Scot who talks sense and is pro-UK. Enough to generate paroxysms.
They claim GB News is just going to be pound shop Fox News, lots of their hires don't seem to be a fit for such a role e.g. Colin Brazier, Gloria De Piero
It may well be that GB News turns out to be really good. I guess we'll see.
They claim GB News is just going to be pound shop Fox News, lots of their hires don't seem to be a fit for such a role e.g. Colin Brazier, Gloria De Piero
It may well be that GB News turns out to be really good. I guess we'll see.
Oh i doubt that.....but the lazy assumption because Neil has said he wants to break what he sees is the dominate tv news that starts at Blairite left of centre position world view doesn't equal Fox News.
Loads of their hires just don't fit for such a channel.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
Michelle Dewberry??? She was on QT recently - was a complete idiot.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
The Firing Line interviews are the best. William Buckley is slightly odd, mind
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
Michelle Dewberry??? She was on QT recently - was a complete idiot.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
There’s some great content on Rogan. One problem I do think he has is the sheer volume of guests he has on means the quality of research is sometimes a bit lacking. Sky News is boring because most of the time it loops content every 30 minutes. GB News could be great if it follows the Rogan model.
And if it grabs by the horns what I think we agree are the two stories right now of much relevance. Both of which are being largely ignored in Britain: UAPs and Lab Leaks. Get on proper guests to talk about these things intelligently and in depth, without condescension.
Yes, Rogan should do one show a week and more research. It is still remarkably diverting, however: and educational
The apathetic state of British news TV to these two news stories speaks volumes of their greater failures: timid, parochial, class-ridden, nervous, overly-metropolitan and nearly all of one middlebrow, liberal-left mindset
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
The Firing Line interviews are the best. William Buckley is slightly odd, mind
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
It has got many more presenters than that and some well known ones including Alastair Stewart, Colin Brazier, Darren McCaffery, Israel Webster, Gloria de Piero, Kirsty Gallacher, Simon McCoy, and Dan Wootton
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
The Firing Line interviews are the best. William Buckley is slightly odd, mind
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
No one is stopping the left from setting up their own leftwing news station.
Indeed, I would welcome it, let a thousand flowers bloom, Guardian TV News, why not?
Only problem is that it would be identical to the BBC, Sky and C4
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Actually no....there is limited in depth coverage these days.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight. if GB News is also that, no idea.
Yeah, proper in-depth interviews with politicians. Check out old interviews from the 70s and 80s. What passes for an interview today is a joke.
And yet if you go on Spotify or Youtube you can find someone like Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk or a senator or a writer for THREE HOURS: intelligent, serious, in-depth analysis
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
There’s some great content on Rogan. One problem I do think he has is the sheer volume of guests he has on means the quality of research is sometimes a bit lacking. Sky News is boring because most of the time it loops content every 30 minutes. GB News could be great if it follows the Rogan model.
And if it grabs by the horns what I think we agree are the two stories right now of much relevance. Both of which are being largely ignored in Britain: UAPs and Lab Leaks. Get on proper guests to talk about these things intelligently and in depth, without condescension.
Yes, Rogan should do one show a week and more research. It is still remarkably diverting, however: and educational
The apathetic state of British news TV to these two news stories speaks volumes of their greater failures: timid, parochial, class-ridden, nervous, overly-metropolitan and nearly all of one middlebrow, liberal-left mindset
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
No one is stopping the left from setting up their own leftwing news station.
Indeed, I would welcome it, let a thousand flowers bloom, Guardian TV News, why not?
Only problem is that it would be identical to the BBC, Sky and C4
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
Michelle Dewberry??? She was on QT recently - was a complete idiot.
If you knew her back story you might be a bit kinder
Andrew Neil’s opening monologue on GB News was about how the channel wouldn’t push false narratives.
Anyway an hour later there’s an uninterrupted, unchallenged to-camera monologue by host Dan Wootton on GB News about how lockdowns don’t work. This is definitely new territory. https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1404168675356254209
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
"Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats."
Easy to fathom. Working-class Scot who talks sense and is pro-UK. Enough to generate paroxysms.
Do you agree with him that lockdown is the biggest single mistake in world history?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
TV News Channels in 2021. 😀
Reminds me of how TV-AM started. How long til Andrew Neil is replaced by Roland Rat?
But seriously, tv news channels? The only justification seems to generate outrage to serve other media. Why not cut out the middle man and find someone that can work with modern media directly?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on his covid update.
And as we have seen with Rogan, Harris, unherd, Modern Wisdom, there is a market for in depth interviews with interesting people talking about current affairs.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
"Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats."
Easy to fathom. Working-class Scot who talks sense and is pro-UK. Enough to generate paroxysms.
Do you agree with him that lockdown is the biggest single mistake in world history?
You don't *need* to be a cybernat to find him a pretentious prick, but it helps.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
Michelle Dewberry??? She was on QT recently - was a complete idiot.
If you knew her back story you might be a bit kinder
I didn’t know her from Eve until I asked on here. Apparently she won the Apprentice?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Is "the left" scared of GB News? If it is, tonight's launch won't be giving "the left" nightmares. It's got Andrew Neil, but it's Boris Johnson who runs scared of him. It's got Michelle Dewberry off Sky, and Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats. And then I switched off.
"Neil Oliver who, for reasons I've never quite fathomed, annoys the Scottish cybernats."
Easy to fathom. Working-class Scot who talks sense and is pro-UK. Enough to generate paroxysms.
Do you agree with him that lockdown is the biggest single mistake in world history?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
Sounds like it's just the introductions today.
When was the last time a BBC host did an uninterrupted personal monologue to camera?
If he fulfills his promises Sky and BBC will have real competition
Hopefully GB News will be an alternative to the constant doom-mongering of both Sky News and BBC News channel.
Andrew Neil in a recent interview said rolling news is failed concept and GB News isn't looking to compete with them. If you want to know about breaking news, GB News isn't the place to go.
Maybe people are getting a bit tired of "breaking news" every 5 minutes.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
TV News Channels in 2021. 😀
Reminds me of how TV-AM started. How long til Andrew Neil is replaced by Roland Rat?
But seriously, tv news channels? The only justification seems to generate outrage to serve other media. Why not cut out the middle man and find someone that can work with modern media directly?
Well i said repeatedly i don't think it will succeed...but there is a market for current affairs / news commentary type shows.
Whisper it, Carl Benjamin, that Sagan of Akkad guy, does more views on YouTube, giving his daily 2hr take on the news than Adam Boulton at the same time on Sky and makes a good living out of it.
Not somebody I want to watch, but all these examples Leon and I bring up, show there is a market for longer form content.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
They haven't broadcast one programme yet
Tonight was an introduction to their presenters
And @Scott_xP is hardly a voice of Independent opinion
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
As I said, it's a free market. Start your own leftwing news channel
This will live or die by its popularity, as it should be
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
Sounds like it's just the introductions today.
When was the last time a BBC host did an uninterrupted personal monologue to camera?
Maybe when the BBC just started? I don't know. But it's already been mentioned here that normal programming begins tomorrow.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
Sounds like it's just the introductions today.
When was the last time a BBC host did an uninterrupted personal monologue to camera?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
You seem to be making all these assumptions about GB News. That it will be a Fox News echo chamber.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
So what is the 'gap' GB News is aiming to fill?
There is definitely a market for in depth proper factual correct analysis...not as we have seen every f##king day on BBC and Sky during the pandemic...and why a bloke in his bedroom gets more views on covid.
That's all very well, but Scott's post suggests there is not much "analysis" or "debate" going on.
It was Day 0.....they will definitely fail though if it is just a talking head taking an alternative position to the "mainstream"....thats what Talk Radio does.
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Evidence of the likes of Victoria Derbyshire Show doesn't seem to think their is much of a market of studio shows either.
They should have gone straight into the lockdown issue IMO, grabbing the agenda.
If they want to go further in their highly questionable messing around with conditional probability using such small samples, they might as well conclude from the right-hand two charts that if you're going to get infected with Delta than you'll be more likely to survive if you haven't been double-vaccinated.
Those dishing it already may find that it does evolve into an important news medium
Mind you I am watching the football, but will check in on their breakfast programmes with interest.
Anything is better than Kay Burley
https://twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1404145653370994698
The real programmes start from 6.00 am tomorrow
If they also happen to be opposite sides of the Brexit debate you can guarantee repeat bookings.
Closer look at the Zoe estimates. Daily estimate & 7-day average both still going up but you can see the rate of increase slowing up quite significantly.
The decline in the rate of increase we see in the NHS numbers appears to be repeated in the Zoe numbers.
Noise?
The pandemic has shown too many who work on these channels are morons who are clueless and lazy.
There is a market as there are YouTube and podcasts channels that do really good numbers. In fact far better than when BBC / Sky out their videos online and better than Newsnight.
An old bloke in this bedroom taking about covid does better numbers than Sky, because he knows what he is talking about.
If GB News is also that, no idea.
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
And making a fortune doing it
There is a market for this, question is will GB News aim for that, or just fail as another crappier Sky News?
I switched off after 30 seconds, no interest in an extended advert for something I am already watching.
Joe Biden demands international investigation into Chinese lab leak theory
There is a market.
Unlock and let us live with Covid, Boris Johnson urged by advisor on eve of crucial June 21 decision
If only ....
Probably just noise, do you think?
And if it grabs by the horns what I think we agree are the two stories right now of much relevance. Both of which are being largely ignored in Britain: UAPs and Lab Leaks. Get on proper guests to talk about these things intelligently and in depth, without condescension.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
They start programme broadcasts from 6.00am in the morning
Probably just noise.
You have made your mind up already ......
Here’s Thatch before she was PM
https://youtu.be/nO44vzTLa7g
Easy to fathom. Working-class Scot who talks sense and is pro-UK. Enough to generate paroxysms.
Loads of their hires just don't fit for such a channel.
We need some alternative to BBC and Sky News, both of which offer very little in the way of rigorous debate.
Love Island starts at the end of the month. Wonder what ITV's viewing figures will be compared to GB News.
When Neil was on the BBC, I don't think anybody thought the Daily Politics was that. He just seemed to give bullshitting politicians all round a bashing.
The apathetic state of British news TV to these two news stories speaks volumes of their greater failures: timid, parochial, class-ridden, nervous, overly-metropolitan and nearly all of one middlebrow, liberal-left mindset
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qW-ZKxZss
Indeed, I would welcome it, let a thousand flowers bloom, Guardian TV News, why not?
Only problem is that it would be identical to the BBC, Sky and C4
To be fair Novaro media, they do try to do in-depth stuff, but it is so biased i.e. marxism.is the solution to everything.
👉lockdown
👉taking the knee
👉Harry and Meghan
THANK GOD someone is finally covering these issues
https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1404168562156228619
We have found their target viewer. It's SeanT
Anyway an hour later there’s an uninterrupted, unchallenged to-camera monologue by host Dan Wootton on GB News about how lockdowns don’t work. This is definitely new territory.
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1404168675356254209
Reminds me of how TV-AM started. How long til Andrew Neil is replaced by Roland Rat?
But seriously, tv news channels? The only justification seems to generate outrage to serve other media. Why not cut out the middle man and find someone that can work with modern media directly?
And as we have seen with Rogan, Harris, unherd, Modern Wisdom, there is a market for in depth interviews with interesting people talking about current affairs.
https://www.christophermellon.net/post/questions-for-congress-regarding-the-pending-uap-report
Whisper it, Carl Benjamin, that Sagan of Akkad guy, does more views on YouTube, giving his daily 2hr take on the news than Adam Boulton at the same time on Sky and makes a good living out of it.
Not somebody I want to watch, but all these examples Leon and I bring up, show there is a market for longer form content.
Boo!
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
Tonight was an introduction to their presenters
And @Scott_xP is hardly a voice of Independent opinion
This will live or die by its popularity, as it should be