Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
I agree, but the problem is BBC News and Sky News are just left/liberal, Woke tirades most of the time, so this channel is there to balance it out.
It would be far better if each news channel was neutral, like they used to be 10 or 15 years ago.
The BBC news website is certainly like that. It reads like the Guardian now.
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
I agree, but the problem is BBC News and Sky News are just left/liberal, Woke tirades most of the time, so this channel is there to balance it out.
It would be far better if each news channel was neutral, like they used to be 10 or 15 years ago.
The BBC news website is certainly like that. It reads like the Guardian now.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
I agree, but the problem is BBC News and Sky News are just left/liberal, Woke tirades most of the time, so this channel is there to balance it out.
It would be far better if each news channel was neutral, like they used to be 10 or 15 years ago.
The BBC news website is certainly like that. It reads like the Guardian now.
Which is why I ignore it bar duck.news..
I will.be trying GB news , I have no idea how good it will.be...
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
This is the thing I don't get - the Conservative Party has double figure poll leads and a large majority in the Commons. Of what are they so frightened?
I listen to some on here who seem determined to find another front in some perpetual cultural war and fight it as though civilisation depends on it.
Er, no - the overwhelming majority of the British people aren't interested - they don't care about the "culture war". This notion of an anti-Government "elite" running everything is so daft it's astonishing it even gets an airing.
Again, it's more than a tad Orwellian - what will it be next - the 15-minute Hate?
Everyone is entitled to their 15 minutes of Fame. AND deserves 15 minutes of Hate.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
Top gear took ages to get back to popularity though. The Chris Evans fiasco, followed by the Matt Leblanc and two chaps who won a competition to cohost was almost as bad. I’m still not sold on Chris Harris...
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
If he's smart he'll have at least one thing that looks like a lifting, even if everything else stays as it has for the last bit. Then he can have his cake and eat it.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
Charitably, perhaps they are looking to grab an audience with some red meat to salivate over, and develop more actual news down the line.
I don't tend to watch news regardless, so I won't know, but if they aren't going for flat out right wing news I'm not sure what market they would be going after that is not already well served.
I watched the segment with Sumption with the footie in the background. Interesting. But too short.
90 mins of Netherlands v Ukraine not long enough for you?
Watched a little bit of GB news. Has potential but needs a bit of work on the production values. The set is too dark for one. I think it might be too much just having talking heads - I think they would benefit from having an actual reading the news slot.
GB News must be allowed to broadcast as long as it sticks to broadcast rules. It seems like it is burying itself with technical issues so far, which is astonishing really but there you are.
I do not support it being cancelled in any way whatsoever. That’s not the right approach.
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
A decision that was made days ago that will be made tomorrow
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
A decision that was made days ago that will be made tomorrow
Theres going to be a wedding exception according to telegraph
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
Charitably, perhaps they are looking to grab an audience with some red meat to salivate over, and develop more actual news down the line.
I don't tend to watch news regardless, so I won't know, but if they aren't going for flat out right wing news I'm not sure what market they would be going after that is not already well served.
I watched the segment with Sumption with the footie in the background. Interesting. But too short.
90 mins of Netherlands v Ukraine not long enough for you?
Could’ve happily had another half an hour of that match
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
The show had an estimated worldwide audience of 350 million, and was listed by Guinness World Records as the highest-viewed factual television programme.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
Top gear took ages to get back to popularity though. The Chris Evans fiasco, followed by the Matt Leblanc and two chaps who won a competition to cohost was almost as bad. I’m still not sold on Chris Harris...
And it still hasn't returned to peak Clarkson ratings which were often 7m+
And I wonder if the foreign sales are remotely as good?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
No its not, even with the new presenters they only do 5 million or so. Shadow of what Top Gear at its peak got.
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
A decision that was made days ago that will be made tomorrow
Theres going to be a wedding exception according to telegraph
The Independent also has that but neither seem to have much detail on it.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
This is the thing I don't get - the Conservative Party has double figure poll leads and a large majority in the Commons. Of what are they so frightened?
I listen to some on here who seem determined to find another front in some perpetual cultural war and fight it as though civilisation depends on it.
Er, no - the overwhelming majority of the British people aren't interested - they don't care about the "culture war". This notion of an anti-Government "elite" running everything is so daft it's astonishing it even gets an airing.
Again, it's more than a tad Orwellian - what will it be next - the 15-minute Hate?
Problem is the left dominate education the legal profession and the media amongst others. The conservatives lost the cultural war despite been in power manybyears
That last sentence is certainly true.
Much as I'd prefer to see left of centre parties in power, I'm increasingly of the opinion that it doesn't really matter. The advancement of social democratic ideas is pushed by changing public attitudes and politicians can only follow on behind.
I dont know if you remember but back in 1994 many conservatives argued against lowering the gay age of consent to 18 (not 16). It was very controversial at the time
What we are actually seeing now with the internet, there are no gatekeepers, so experts can talk without the established media e.g. this morning I watched a 20 min video from a leading cardiologist about Eriksen and heart attacks among elite athletes. He would never get 20 mins on BBC or Sky.
Old Covid Campbell is a must watch compared to the idiots getting it wrong on BBC / Sky everyday.
And people watch this stuff and even pay for expert opinion e.g the Athletic is far superior to BBC Sport and now has millions of subscribers. If you watch Tifo football, listen to statsbomb or read the athletic, then try and listen to the talking heads on BBC and ITV analysing the football, you can feel the IQ point dropping.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
This is the thing I don't get - the Conservative Party has double figure poll leads and a large majority in the Commons. Of what are they so frightened?
I listen to some on here who seem determined to find another front in some perpetual cultural war and fight it as though civilisation depends on it.
Er, no - the overwhelming majority of the British people aren't interested - they don't care about the "culture war". This notion of an anti-Government "elite" running everything is so daft it's astonishing it even gets an airing.
Again, it's more than a tad Orwellian - what will it be next - the 15-minute Hate?
Problem is the left dominate education the legal profession and the media amongst others. The conservatives lost the cultural war despite been in power manybyears
That last sentence is certainly true.
Much as I'd prefer to see left of centre parties in power, I'm increasingly of the opinion that it doesn't really matter. The advancement of social democratic ideas is pushed by changing public attitudes and politicians can only follow on behind.
I dont know if you remember but back in 1994 many conservatives argued against lowering the gay age of consent to 18 (not 16). It was very controversial at the time
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
The show had an estimated worldwide audience of 350 million, and was listed by Guinness World Records as the highest-viewed factual television programme.
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
Govt source says ministers have agreed to delay lifting of covid regulations for 4 weeks - but, not clear if what caveats or exceptions may apply and no official confirmation tonight - PM will announce final decision early evening tomorrow https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
"ministers have agreed"
Translation: The Cabinet and the First Lord were informed of Gove and Hancock's decision earlier today.
Well, I've just watched 15 minutes of GB news. Dan Wooton on anti-woke stuff, just a right-wing tirade (anti-lockdown, anti-knee, anti-Harry/Meghan). To be followed by Farage, Sumption and Alan Sugar later tonight. A panel of Oliver, somebody from the Daily Express, and somebody I've never heard of. Hm - a theme seems to be developing. Fox News, eat your heart out.
It's just a diet of very right-wing guff, isn't it? No (new) news at all, just stale debates and attacks on the liberal metropolitan woke Guardian-reading leftie Labour-voting elite who apparently run everything in this country. Not sure it's necessary when these views are put forth very well by the current government.
I know that's a hasty judgement. But the evidence is already pretty strong.
This is the thing I don't get - the Conservative Party has double figure poll leads and a large majority in the Commons. Of what are they so frightened?
I listen to some on here who seem determined to find another front in some perpetual cultural war and fight it as though civilisation depends on it.
Er, no - the overwhelming majority of the British people aren't interested - they don't care about the "culture war". This notion of an anti-Government "elite" running everything is so daft it's astonishing it even gets an airing.
Again, it's more than a tad Orwellian - what will it be next - the 15-minute Hate?
Problem is the left dominate education the legal profession and the media amongst others. The conservatives lost the cultural war despite been in power manybyears
That last sentence is certainly true.
Much as I'd prefer to see left of centre parties in power, I'm increasingly of the opinion that it doesn't really matter. The advancement of social democratic ideas is pushed by changing public attitudes and politicians can only follow on behind.
I dont know if you remember but back in 1994 many conservatives argued against lowering the gay age of consent to 18 (not 16). It was very controversial at the time
Can you name a similarly important question where 'progressive' parties have correctly reverse ferreted?
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
No its not, even with the new presenters they only do 5 million or so. Shadow of what Top Gear at its peak got.
Is The Grand Tour still going?
I saw the first couple, but it was a very tired formula.
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
The Times also has the weddings exemption, but again no more details on the front page.
I think they will go with the Wedding exemption, maybe only up to 100, to send the message 'we are getting out of this', but otherwise it's 1 September before any further material relaxation.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
No its not, even with the new presenters they only do 5 million or so. Shadow of what Top Gear at its peak got.
Is The Grand Tour still going?
I saw the first couple, but it was a very tired formula.
They did 3 seasons and then changed the format to specials and now they all have spin of shows. I thought it was poor, but apparently it still gets massive viewership, hence why Clarkson does Farming got commissioned and the others have similar shows e.g. James May in Japan, Richard Hammond on a deserted island.
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
The Times also has the weddings exemption, but again no more details on the front page.
I think they will go with the Wedding exemption, maybe only up to 100, to send the message 'we are getting out of this', but otherwise it's 1 September before any further material relaxation.
To coincide with the children going back to school? What a bonkers idea.
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
Really? I can't be bothered to look it up. But I always value your input 👍
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
God, that's weak. The best it can come up with is that Andrew Neil lives in France and a few shareholders live in New Zealand and the USA?
Lol. Rattled.
The hostility is very strange. I don't have any real interest in watching it, but people can do what they like. You can get far more biased coverage on YouTube e.g. Novora media, and nobody cares. If they want to try and spread the joys of Marxism, so.be it.
It sounds more like GB News are going to try and steal Talk Radios clothes of being contrarian.
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
Really? I can't be bothered to look it up. But I always value your input 👍
Appreciated. And reciprocated, but you should try dialling down the sanctimony a bit.
The Guardian is owned by an overseas trust in a tax haven....but somehow location of businessmen backing a business in a globalised world in really bad.
Somebody.thinks there is a business opportunity for a current affairs channel, i don't think there is, but that's capitalism.
These criticisms might have more punch if people had not been attacking GB news for months before it had aired. As it is, that build up attack might mean more people give it benefit of the doubt before deciding it is Foc News UK.
Yes these critiques are far too hasty and nervy. They come across as journalists worried that it might work, rather than actual analysis
So to that extent, GBNews has done its first day job. It has caused a stir
Only amongst we geeks. Most of the country will never watch any news channel. GB News will be preaching to the converted.
How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
Funded and owned by foreign citizens of nowhere.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
Really? I can't be bothered to look it up. But I always value your input 👍
Appreciated. And reciprocated, but you should try dialling down the sanctimony a bit.
I have never been sanctimonious but always open to alternative views.
The question I will ask Dominic Cummings if ever I get the chance will be whether he believes he could make a success of Soviet perestroika if he were to travel back in time and get himself hired as Gorbachev's consigliere. Because what happened in 1991 was precisely the collapse of a system, and the collapse that Cummings supposes will happen in Britain in the event that a cadre of brilliant leaders doesn't saunter to power after a "regime change" (his phrase) sounds as though it would be even more catastrophic. So surely saving perestroika would have been a walk in the park for our hero. I'd like to hear him say either yes, that's right, or no, of course not, because objectively the system was up sh*t creek. Then how would he characterise a Britain led by "hollow men" and that suffers from a culture of almost total incompetence in its state bureaucracy?
Either he thinks a brilliant elite can always stave off collapse and make huge progressive strides forward, because of the Strength of its Willpower, its Inborn Genius, and so on, or he thinks objective conditions sometimes might determine otherwise. Maybe he should have read PPE after all. Or are there no limits for the heirs of Amon?
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
Really? I can't be bothered to look it up. But I always value your input 👍
Appreciated. And reciprocated, but you should try dialling down the sanctimony a bit.
I have never been sanctimonious
You should try it, gives a nice warm feeling. I've never looked back.
The Guardian is owned by an overseas trust in a tax haven....but somehow location of businessmen backing a business in a globalised world in really bad.
Pretty much every paper is owned by foreigners.
At least from the right wing perspective they are the right sort of elderly white English speaking foreigners.
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
The Guardian is owned by an overseas trust in a tax haven....but somehow location of businessmen backing a business in a globalised world in really bad.
Pretty much every paper is owned by foreigners.
At least from the right wing perspective they are the right sort of elderly white English speaking foreigners.
That's capitalism, nobody forces you to buy any of them...and most are dying because they are shit.
But i have to buy a tv licence for something I don't really watch, in order to watch Sky Sports, which I do. While they also have their own commercial arm and own 100% of UKTV.
My covid modelling tells me that Step 4 will not happen this year.
I did say that on here last night. Stage 4 = Summer 2022.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
Sanctimonious crap.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
Really? I can't be bothered to look it up. But I always value your input 👍
Appreciated. And reciprocated, but you should try dialling down the sanctimony a bit.
I have never been sanctimonious
You should try it, gives a nice warm feeling. I've never looked back.
I'm not sure what it is. I had to check my mobile phone spell check to see I spelled it right! 😊
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
What I don’t grasp is why I’ve been double jabbed (mid forties, healthy) when so many fiftysomethings haven’t? Are people just being slow to book their second jab?
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
What I don’t grasp is why I’ve been double jabbed (mid forties, healthy) when so many fiftysomethings haven’t? Are people just being slow to book their second jab?
AZN vs Pfizer ? Most 40s got AZN, we have loads of that, so easy to bring forward. Pfizer and Moderna limited e.g. i can't get my Moderna one any sooner than 10 weeks.
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
Yes. Not all willing over 50's have been done. Not by some way. Unlike the repeated assertions on here. We also have 8% of 60-64 And 2% of over 70's waiting for their second dose.
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
What I don’t grasp is why I’ve been double jabbed (mid forties, healthy) when so many fiftysomethings haven’t? Are people just being slow to book their second jab?
AZN vs Pfizer ? Most 40s got AZN, we have loads of that, so easy to bring forward. Pfizer and Moderna limited e.g. i can't get my Moderna one any sooner than 10 weeks.
International football tournaments are generally more fun as lots more people get into them, and the tournaments are free to air.
Sure beats hearing people whining about Liverpool’s latest underwhelming draw.
The Netherlands seem like the most fun team to watch of the teams who have played so far, but the tournament as a whole has had a good start. Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands each scoring three goals. Fabulous.
What's going to have changed regarding nightclubs in a month ?
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ? Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
England only data, 10th June release.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second Under 30 21.64% 11.96% 30-34 47.06% 16.91% 35-39 60.23% 20.20% 40-44 71.50% 26.61% 45-49 78.66% 36.04% 50-54 84.73% 62.87% 55-59 87.60% 69.82% 60-64 89.80% 81.57% 65-69 91.93% 88.28% 70-74 94.25% 92.21% 75-79 95.26% 93.38% 80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
What I don’t grasp is why I’ve been double jabbed (mid forties, healthy) when so many fiftysomethings haven’t? Are people just being slow to book their second jab?
AZN vs Pfizer ? Most 40s got AZN, we have loads of that, so easy to bring forward. Pfizer and Moderna limited e.g. i can't get my Moderna one any sooner than 10 weeks.
I thought Moderna was mostly for the young guns?
It is, but they gave it to me...I got sent to a site that is some sort of "trial" site, so got asked 999 questions before I could get jabbed.
The Times also has the weddings exemption, but again no more details on the front page.
I think they will go with the Wedding exemption, maybe only up to 100, to send the message 'we are getting out of this', but otherwise it's 1 September before any further material relaxation.
To coincide with the children going back to school? What a bonkers idea.
Where about some are we in this 3rd wave, Q1, Q2?
With the 4 week delay, they will make the decision earlier than that, how will the stats worrying them today look in about 3 weeks? Will there be more statistical extrapolating that might kick it another 4 weeks on?
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
You can't have watched much RT. It is quite Right wing populist in its agenda, anti-gay rights, anti Europe, anti-Biden etc.
Some of the documentary bits are quite interesting though.
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
Who is outraged? Certainly nobody on here.
I think you are conflating various things here. Freedom of speech is good. Plurality of media is good.
The issue that some are pointing out though is that if we look to the US we can see that money can buy the propagation of “fake news” with a deleterious impact on the public sphere.
It’s not “woke” to look on the US media landscape and shudder.
Fortunately the link won't work properly so I can't have my blood pressure raised by reading her nonsense.
As I said the other day, if the Zero Covidiots are really determined to have their way then we should fly the lot of them to South Georgia, and let them build their disease free utopia there.
Why inflict them on beautiful South Georgia, better to put them in a box in cold storage
It's very remote and very empty. Though if you insist I suppose we could ship them off to one of the South Sandwich Islands instead?
Would we need to butter them up first?
It is no doubt unworthy of me. But I'd drop all the ZeroCovid idiots into the middle of the South Atlantic.
GB News aims to solve a problem we do not have with an offering 10 years past its sell by date.
Why are the left so scared of GBNews
It is the same mindset that saw the red wall fall
I have no idea how it will work out but it may just succeed, who knows
Well we're scared of the Fox News-ification of the UK political narrative because it's toxic. It remains to be seen if GB News will play that role.
I won't be watching it but I don't watch any live TV whatsoever, other than sport, so I don't really care otherwise.
God forbid viewers might have a choice that dissents from the left wing view point eh
Curious that the right feel underrepresented in the media despite their lot running most of it. Boris , Gove et all hardly suffered from lack of exposure on the BBC for example. Feels like some kind of weird insecurity to need yet another echo chamber.
I just don't get that. The BBC is the one dominant media organisation in the UK, and it takes it lead from the Guardian. It would be very rare that any of its presenters would be outed as right wing, indeed most eventually reveal their views to be left of centre. They do try to be balanced, but sometimes you can balance coverage in a strange easy, or choose not to cover things in a certain way. For this reason for many of the influential people in this country the rise of Brexit, UKIP, red wall conservatism is a complete surprise. Many of these journalists will be in the same echo chambers as the Labour party and cannot grasp how the world outside twitter functions. In the print press most newspapers are right wing, but I don't have a problem with that - I'm not forced to buy them. If I disagree with what they print I can buy my news elsewhere - they are not brainwashing their readers, but carefully reflecting their views back at them. What is truly sad is that I would pay for a centrist newspaper but I just go to the BBC and get it all for free.
Is it really "very rare that any [BBC] presenters would be outed as right wing"?
Nick Robinson, Jeremy Paxman, Allegra Stratton? And whatever happened to Andrew Neil?
If the BBC hadn't messed Neil around over politics shows then GB News would never have happened.
The BBC are good at that. They did it as well over Clarkson* and Top Gear leading to Amazon's Grand Tour.
(*Although Clarkson's language and behaviour was poor the show was poorly organised and the issue badly handled afterwards)
Clarkson now buying tractors for a living whilst Top Gear is still as popular as ever.
No its not, even with the new presenters they only do 5 million or so. Shadow of what Top Gear at its peak got.
Is The Grand Tour still going?
I saw the first couple, but it was a very tired formula.
They did 3 seasons and then changed the format to specials and now they all have spin of shows. I thought it was poor, but apparently it still gets massive viewership, hence why Clarkson does Farming got commissioned and the others have similar shows e.g. James May in Japan, Richard Hammond on a deserted island.
James May was doing spin of shows long before the BBC canned Clarkson. Indeed he is by far the best of the trio and his shows are always worth watching as they bring niche hobbies to the public eye without being patronising.
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
You can't have watched much RT. It is quite Right wing populist in its agenda, anti-gay rights, anti Europe, anti-Biden etc.
Some of the documentary bits are quite interesting though.
It's odd how George Galloway and Alex Salmond appear on it quite often. Maybe they're just being contrarian.
BBC News bulletin headline is that we won a football match. Is it really the biggest story of the day?
Has Sterling been made a Duke yet?
Raheem Sterling got his MBE yesterday and it has worked already. Maybe that is the way forward and Nicola Sturgeon should confer 11 Orders of the Thistle before the Scotland England game on Friday.
What we are actually seeing now with the internet, there are no gatekeepers, so experts can talk without the established media e.g. this morning I watched a 20 min video from a leading cardiologist about Eriksen and heart attacks among elite athletes. He would never get 20 mins on BBC or Sky.
Old Covid Campbell is a must watch compared to the idiots getting it wrong on BBC / Sky everyday.
And people watch this stuff and even pay for expert opinion e.g the Athletic is far superior to BBC Sport and now has millions of subscribers. If you watch Tifo football, listen to statsbomb or read the athletic, then try and listen to the talking heads on BBC and ITV analysing the football, you can feel the IQ point dropping.
I think the old-fashioned gatekeepers here in the UK mostly did a good job. I'm sorry that era is over. You could watch just about any news show in Britain in about 1990 and be fairly confident you were getting a relatively balanced view of what was going on in the world. Channel 4 News was slightly more left-wing than the others but it wasn't too pronounced.
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
Who is outraged? Certainly nobody on here.
I think you are conflating various things here. Freedom of speech is good. Plurality of media is good.
The issue that some are pointing out though is that if we look to the US we can see that money can buy the propagation of “fake news” with a deleterious impact on the public sphere.
It’s not “woke” to look on the US media landscape and shudder.
Yes, PB tonight is not full of people outraged by GB News. There are a number of us who took a look and were disappointed but who might give it another go tomorrow.
Regarding GB news, it really is laughable that people are outraged by this channel. I don't understand what people are worried about, it will hardly have any effect on politics, it is for a tiny subset of people anyway who watch this type of rolling news. Russia Today (RT) have been basically broadcasting Russian state propoganda and few people got bothered about that - probably because it appears to be friendly to left wing causes.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
Who is outraged? Certainly nobody on here.
I think you are conflating various things here. Freedom of speech is good. Plurality of media is good.
The issue that some are pointing out though is that if we look to the US we can see that money can buy the propagation of “fake news” with a deleterious impact on the public sphere.
It’s not “woke” to look on the US media landscape and shudder.
Stop Funding Hate tried to get it cancelled before it even went on air.
How is having an extra channel turning us in to america? it is just one more channel and a lot of centre right leaning people will switch over from the BBC/Sky because they are fed up with the obvious woke takeover of both of these new channels, epitomised with the reporting of the 'largely peaceful' BLM protests last year. GB News are just filling a gap in the market resulting from the public sector national broadcaster become politically biased in its news coverage.
Will Joe Biden really miss the opportunity to visit the church in Zennor with the mermaid carving?
POTUS attended mass at Catholic Church in St Ives. (The PM, newly converted, did not, which seems like an opportunity missed to impress Uncle Joe re: his bona fides.
BTW, the President was 15 minutes late for start of mass, he got caught in traffic (surely NOT the only one with that issue this weekend in Cornwall) but the priest did NOT wait, because he had another mass to perform in another nearby town.
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How is it being funded by the way - does anyone know?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/czednw5qgllt/ducks
Sure beats hearing people whining about Liverpool’s latest underwhelming draw.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1404184932516339714
I do not support it being cancelled in any way whatsoever. That’s not the right approach.
Glad we’re able to have these nutters on display for all to see
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By mid July the debate will have turned to the seasonal uptick in early autumn and schools going back and on and on.
Although, this is not a “money making” venture, so unlikely there will be any tax to pay.
The aim to build and/or maintain political hegemony for low regulation, low wage economy (ie the hedge funder’s Brexit).
Expect it to major on woke battles and attacks on the “elite”.
And I wonder if the foreign sales are remotely as good?
But Top Gear has definitely found a new niche
But that doesn’t really matter, the idea is the create fodder for social media sharing.
Old Covid Campbell is a must watch compared to the idiots getting it wrong on BBC / Sky everyday.
And people watch this stuff and even pay for expert opinion e.g the Athletic is far superior to BBC Sport and now has millions of subscribers. If you watch Tifo football, listen to statsbomb or read the athletic, then try and listen to the talking heads on BBC and ITV analysing the football, you can feel the IQ point dropping.
I will have to replenish my mask stock next week.
A reminder, ahead of its launch later... #GBNews is many things, but it certainly isn’t British 👇🏻
https://t.co/Ta6xOSkqjG
Mainly himself.
I hope you don't get much of your info from them.
Translation: The Cabinet and the First Lord were informed of Gove and Hancock's decision earlier today.
I saw the first couple, but it was a very tired formula.
Lol. Rattled.
You are revelling in this.
However, worth noting that you were completely wrong about the 12 April beer garden opening, which you assured us wouldn’t happen as it “wasn’t viable”.
The danger is now that things drag on and on.
18 - 22s will still be unvaxxed.
On the double jabbed front we'll have over 40s mainly done instead of over 50s ?
Don't see that that much changes in a month. Everyone at serious risk is already done. Everyone at a bit of risk ? Far from it that doesn't change.
It sounds more like GB News are going to try and steal Talk Radios clothes of being contrarian.
I’ll give it another go tomorrow. I couldn’t care less about perceived bias, if it’s engaging I’ll watch it. But what I saw today wasn’t!
But everyone has to take a crap gig from time to time. Everyone needs to pay their bills.
Somebody.thinks there is a business opportunity for a current affairs channel, i don't think there is, but that's capitalism.
Either he thinks a brilliant elite can always stave off collapse and make huge progressive strides forward, because of the Strength of its Willpower, its Inborn Genius, and so on, or he thinks objective conditions sometimes might determine otherwise. Maybe he should have read PPE after all. Or are there no limits for the heirs of Amon?
At least from the right wing perspective they are the right sort of elderly white English speaking foreigners.
My guess is that the area of interest is the 40-60 band - there is still a fair bit to do there.
Age Band First Second
Under 30 21.64% 11.96%
30-34 47.06% 16.91%
35-39 60.23% 20.20%
40-44 71.50% 26.61%
45-49 78.66% 36.04%
50-54 84.73% 62.87%
55-59 87.60% 69.82%
60-64 89.80% 81.57%
65-69 91.93% 88.28%
70-74 94.25% 92.21%
75-79 95.26% 93.38%
80 plus 95.00% 92.26%
But i have to buy a tv licence for something I don't really watch, in order to watch Sky Sports, which I do. While they also have their own commercial arm and own 100% of UKTV.
We also have 8% of 60-64 And 2% of over 70's waiting for their second dose.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
With the 4 week delay, they will make the decision earlier than that, how will the stats worrying them today look in about 3 weeks? Will there be more statistical extrapolating that might kick it another 4 weeks on?
I tried again a few minutes later - Carol Malone. I turn off any channel she pops up on.
People should try and debate rather than shut down things they don't like, its one of the most ridiculous things about the woke. Having free debate and an open society is one of the positive things about the west, ironically it is one of the reasons why people want to come and live in this country, escaping from totalitarian regimes. But the woke basically want a dictatorship where only one set of views are on the internet and TV backed with any deviation punished through by anti hate laws. It is pathetic.
Some of the documentary bits are quite interesting though.
Certainly nobody on here.
I think you are conflating various things here.
Freedom of speech is good.
Plurality of media is good.
The issue that some are pointing out though is that if we look to the US we can see that money can buy the propagation of “fake news” with a deleterious impact on the public sphere.
It’s not “woke” to look on the US media landscape and shudder.
Why waste any island on them.
How is having an extra channel turning us in to america? it is just one more channel and a lot of centre right leaning people will switch over from the BBC/Sky because they are fed up with the obvious woke takeover of both of these new channels, epitomised with the reporting of the 'largely peaceful' BLM protests last year. GB News are just filling a gap in the market resulting from the public sector national broadcaster become politically biased in its news coverage.
BTW, the President was 15 minutes late for start of mass, he got caught in traffic (surely NOT the only one with that issue this weekend in Cornwall) but the priest did NOT wait, because he had another mass to perform in another nearby town.