No stepping down from POTUS, no endorsement of Harris. "Over to you Pelosi you sort this shitshow out "
“I will speak to the nation later this week.”
The VP market is very interesting. Is Shapiro really a shoe in ?
The failure to endorse Harris shows that Pelosi has got her way on a contested convention, so that's moot.
He's endorsed Harris now. I just don't see how anyone else gets a look in at this point.
Trump gets a look in if that is the case certainly, in fact he is odds on to return to the White House against Harris
Have you considered the Women's vote, have you considered Kamala 's ethnicity and that Trump is going to appear utterly bonkers when debating Kamala.There might also be a sympathy vote for the Dems in respect of Biden's capitulation. Don't forget "Crooked Joe" ( and only Trump believes he is crooked) has gone for the good of country and party, and although Trump now believes he is probably Jesus having survived an assassination attempt, he is not.
You may be right of course, but I don't believe you have considered anything other than hypothetical polling and made some bizarre extrapolation from Nixon/ McGovern.
Women even voted for Hillary, polls show Harris less popular with blacks than Obama was. She has no connection with those white working class rustbelt males who voted for Trump in 2016 and switched to Biden in 2020, the likes of Buttigieg would have more connection with Independents and suburban white graduates than she does too
So if Pete is on the ticket - the job is a good 'un.
Bizarrely Trump retains a decent base plus a big number of independents. I am not sure he is as popular as you claim or Kamala is as reviled as you suggest.
45% will vote for Trump. 45% will vote against Trump.
It’s the 10% left, especially in the swing states.
Last time Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin were won by less than 1% of the vote and would, I think, have resulted in equal votes in the electoral college or close to it. Several more were won by barely more than 1%.
Also bear in mind there will be lots of legal challenges - Democrats will probably use some of the same tactics as the GOP if they lose this time, if hopefully not to the same degree, and the GOP are openly refusing to accept any result they do not agree with.
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
I reckon Trump may struggle with Kamala. He'll probably avoid playing the race card, but he'll be too tempted to reach for lazy misogynist tropes to use against her, which may well backfire.
The Americans are obsessed with race so, sadly for her, the risk is it becomes all about that.
Another truly dire dinner in France. It is exceptional how often they now fuck up. Frozen food with a drizzle of balsamic vinegar around the plate to fake its freshness
Utterly awful. It’s down at the level of Dutch food now. Without the herrings
The Paris Olympics kicks off in three days (some events start before the opening ceremony); the torch relay is meandering through the country, and all you can talk about is reheated food. Where's your news sense?
Well, this is another big political event I completely mispredicted (at least back six months ago, it's obviously drifted into much more plausible post debate). Just as well I don't bet on this stuff :-)
What's so bad about Kamala? The worst accsuation I can recall against her is essentially being a bit crap, which as far as some of the choices go could be a lot worse even though it is not exactly inspirting.
My Texan students suggested that her role a# a prosecutor, prosecuting black people as a person of colour does not enhance her reputation among black voters.
The vast majority of black Americans are not college educated and don't have much truck with progressive identity politics groups. Generally they think there is too much crime in their neighborhoods and quite like them being put behind bars.
Just reporting what they said. There is always a danger of pushing our politics onto American figures. It really is a different country. Harris is a gamble that the democrats didn’t want to take.
What's so bad about Kamala? The worst accsuation I can recall against her is essentially being a bit crap, which as far as some of the choices go could be a lot worse even though it is not exactly inspirting.
My Texan students suggested that her role a# a prosecutor, prosecuting black people as a person of colour does not enhance her reputation among black voters.
She was a prosecutor . It’s hardly a shock that she’d end up prosecuting some black people.
Under Democratic Party rules, Biden cannot transfer his pledged delegates to another candidate. With Biden stepping aside, Democrats will start with an open convention.
Yes they’re free to vote for whoever they like but Biden’s endorsement and now Bill Clinton’s of Harris means it’s hard to see past her .
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
How he has managed to so fully capture the GOP, root and branch, is quite remarkable. Crass, ignorant, and most of those who worked for his administration criticising his ability, even after losing last time and rejecting the result a political culture which has not traditionally had single, unquestioned leaders to their parties never moved away from him for an instant.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
Another truly dire dinner in France. It is exceptional how often they now fuck up. Frozen food with a drizzle of balsamic vinegar around the plate to fake its freshness
Utterly awful. It’s down at the level of Dutch food now. Without the herrings
The Paris Olympics kicks off in three days (some events start before the opening ceremony); the torch relay is meandering through the country, and all you can talk about is reheated food. Where's your news sense?
For 2012 I was horrified to discover that the relay was nothing of the sort. Torch got moved between locations overnight on a bus. So a bunch of runners did the whole route as a proper relay.
One candidate has been shot and the other has pulled out before it's even started
There's surely huge intrigue and interest to come
The Dem nomination for starters..
Imagine, for a moment, if neither Trump nor Biden had made it to the vote. We were within six inches.
Just a reminder too that Trump is no spring chicken. Trump will be older than Biden is now by the end of term in January 2029
If the Dems are sensible they might well show up his age to their advantage.
But are they sensible?
Six millimeters more like
You're forgetting the six inches of solid bone between his ear and his brain.
Trump wishes he had six inches of solid bone.
Can I make a Rod Liddle joke?
Depends. There's a risk that you end up writing for The Spectator, that's what most of the gentlemen does, sir, that gets sent down for indecent behaviour.
It's a damn sight better choice than Biden v Trump.
My position was that whichever side lost would have only itself to blame for nominating someone so clearly unsuitable for the job.
Harris clears that hurdle.
It shouldn't be a coronation, Dems should do what the Tories did in 2005 at their conference to choose the successor to Michael Howard and have all contenders ie Buttigieg, Harris, Newsom, Shapiro, Whitmer etc speak to the delegates at the convention and see who does best and inspires most.
If Harris bombs a la David Davis then another more charismatic Cameron like contender could replace her. Buttigieg for example could be the Macron to Biden's Hollande and Trump's Le Pen
I reckon Trump may struggle with Kamala. He'll probably avoid playing the race card, but he'll be too tempted to reach for lazy misogynist tropes to use against her, which may well backfire.
The Americans are obsessed with race so, sadly for her, the risk is it becomes all about that.
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
How he has managed to so fully capture the GOP, root and branch, is quite remarkable. Crass, ignorant, and most of those who worked for his administration criticising his ability, even after losing last time and rejecting the result a political culture which has not traditionally had single, unquestioned leaders to their parties never moved away from him for an instant.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
Odd that Ivanka seems to have fallen away and this time round we see his sons and even a granddaughter the other day.
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
How he has managed to so fully capture the GOP, root and branch, is quite remarkable. Crass, ignorant, and most of those who worked for his administration criticising his ability, even after losing last time and rejecting the result a political culture which has not traditionally had single, unquestioned leaders to their parties never moved away from him for an instant.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
Odd that Ivanka seems to have fallen away and this time round we see his sons and even a granddaughter the other day.
Yes, she seemed to have been his favourite, but she and her husband seem to concentrate on their business interests now? Whilst Don and Eric are never off the TV doing a mini-me act which is just sad (they don't have an ounce of his regrettable charisma).
Trump spectacularly misses an opportunity to pitch for the independents:
Donald Trump had this to say about Joe Biden’s decision to exit the race, as posted on Truth Social:
"Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t - And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
Cowed rather than united I’d suggest. And you’re right that that ‘unity’ does not extend to Republican voters.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
How he has managed to so fully capture the GOP, root and branch, is quite remarkable. Crass, ignorant, and most of those who worked for his administration criticising his ability, even after losing last time and rejecting the result a political culture which has not traditionally had single, unquestioned leaders to their parties never moved away from him for an instant.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
1) Claim that Trump was a great President 2) Then claim that Trump won in 2020
Now that means the GOP has claimed that Trump was a great President who was cheated out of victory in 2020.
Trump spectacularly misses an opportunity to pitch for the independents:
Donald Trump had this to say about Joe Biden’s decision to exit the race, as posted on Truth Social:
"Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t - And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
What do you think? Trump's own running mate compared him to Hitler and he is a felon, so minor hypocrisy on the age thing is immaterial.
Another truly dire dinner in France. It is exceptional how often they now fuck up. Frozen food with a drizzle of balsamic vinegar around the plate to fake its freshness
Utterly awful. It’s down at the level of Dutch food now. Without the herrings
The Paris Olympics kicks off in three days (some events start before the opening ceremony); the torch relay is meandering through the country, and all you can talk about is reheated food. Where's your news sense?
For 2012 I was horrified to discover that the relay was nothing of the sort. Torch got moved between locations overnight on a bus. So a bunch of runners did the whole route as a proper relay.
The torch relay in 2012 came right past our shop at some ungodly hour so we opened early and put on some coffee and croissants and invited customers down.
Waited for ages. Massive Samsung open topped bus roared past with a huge disco going on up top. More dancers. Then the (blink and you missed it) runner with torch, then a coca cola bus. And possibly other corporate vehicles.
Felt like cheering on a particularly commercialised Tour de France stage but you can't deny there was a feeling good factor.
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
Cowed rather than united I’d suggest. And you’re right that that ‘unity’ does not extend to Republican voters.
There's no doubt some who are cowed, but I think the estimations of the number are over exagerrated - if they weren't, at least a few more would break and be switchers rather than cowed, but it's always the same handful of former GOP who speak out.
The scary truth is most of them, like the base, are sincere converts.
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
Trump spectacularly misses an opportunity to pitch for the independents:
Donald Trump had this to say about Joe Biden’s decision to exit the race, as posted on Truth Social:
"Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t - And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
What do you think? Trump's own running mate compared him to Hitler and he is a felon, so minor hypocrisy on the age thing is immaterial.
I think they will try the attack line and the hypocrisy won't matter. The drama of Biden withdrawing will suffocate all.
Lol yes, I read RCS's post the wrong way round, doh!
I don't hate Sunak, and I think my disapprobation about his shitshow of a Prime Ministerial run is wholly rational frankly. Nor do I think there's anything especially OTT about it.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
there's a resurgent Trump with a fully united GOP behind him
I get that this is indeed the case. But Why? How? Why? Why?
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
How he has managed to so fully capture the GOP, root and branch, is quite remarkable. Crass, ignorant, and most of those who worked for his administration criticising his ability, even after losing last time and rejecting the result a political culture which has not traditionally had single, unquestioned leaders to their parties never moved away from him for an instant.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
1) Claim that Trump was a great President 2) Then claim that Trump won in 2020
Now that means the GOP has claimed that Trump was a great President who was cheated out of victory in 2020.
At that point you cannot get rid of him.
Sure, but the party base overwhelmingly believe this stuff, even when the lawmakers were less keen, the question of why they do is very interesting.
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
What do you think? Trump's own running mate compared him to Hitler and he is a felon, so minor hypocrisy on the age thing is immaterial.
Buttigieg was sensational on JD Vance and why he changed his tune. This is the sort of clarity needed in the campaign.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
I won't take an lectures from a man who's happy to mock and press a bruise that's personal to me and my family then.
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Lol yes, I read RCS's post the wrong way round, doh!
I don't hate Sunak, and I think my disapprobation about his shitshow of a Prime Ministerial run is wholly rational frankly. Nor do I think there's anything especially OTT about it.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
Well, why wouldn't they? He's too old and clearly suffering from advanced mental decline.
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
The GOP said Biden was too old to run last time. They did kind of have a point, it was just that Trump was even more unsuitable, and Trump is now older than Biden was then is he not?
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
What do you think? Trump's own running mate compared him to Hitler and he is a felon, so minor hypocrisy on the age thing is immaterial.
Buttigieg was sensational on JD Vance and why he changed his tune. This is the sort of clarity needed in the campaign.
I don't know how he has actually been in government, but Buttegieg has always presented very well on TV to me. Articularity is not everything of course, but he has that talent in spades.
Another truly dire dinner in France. It is exceptional how often they now fuck up. Frozen food with a drizzle of balsamic vinegar around the plate to fake its freshness
Utterly awful. It’s down at the level of Dutch food now. Without the herrings
The Paris Olympics kicks off in three days (some events start before the opening ceremony); the torch relay is meandering through the country, and all you can talk about is reheated food. Where's your news sense?
For 2012 I was horrified to discover that the relay was nothing of the sort. Torch got moved between locations overnight on a bus. So a bunch of runners did the whole route as a proper relay.
The torch relay in 2012 came right past our shop at some ungodly hour so we opened early and put on some coffee and croissants and invited customers down.
Waited for ages. Massive Samsung open topped bus roared past with a huge disco going on up top. More dancers. Then the (blink and you missed it) runner with torch, then a coca cola bus. And possibly other corporate vehicles.
Felt like cheering on a particularly commercialised Tour de France stage but you can't deny there was a feeling good factor.
You could nominate folk to run a leg, but the guy I put forward got nowhere. And yet if they had done an actual relay there would have been chances for so many more. Like so much at the olympics, it was all about the (sponsors) money.
What a wonderful day. Good luck to Kamala. I think the correct odds should be Trump 1.8. Harris 2.5. Though th market always favours Trump so I think they'll move to more like Trump 1.66 Harris 2.8.
Lol yes, I read RCS's post the wrong way round, doh!
I don't hate Sunak, and I think my disapprobation about his shitshow of a Prime Ministerial run is wholly rational frankly. Nor do I think there's anything especially OTT about it.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
If Harris wins the nomination, do you think Biden will step down as President. It would surely give her campaign a boost.
No, the GOP would stall a replacement veep until after the election and we need Kamala Harris to oversee the count of the Presidential election on the 6th of January 2025.
Plus we need Veep Harris to ensure the Dem majority in the senate.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
I won't take an lectures from a man who's happy to mock and press a bruise that's personal to me and my family then.
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Away with you.
Prat.
Well if you are so thin skinned you better give me another handful of flags.
I think Harris stands a better chance of winning as the current VP rather than President . The first woman President might help and she will eviscerate Trump on the abortion issue .
I can’t recall any specifics about Harris and abortion, so…
Imagine that Harris is the nominee. And then the question lands.
“Have you ever had an abortion?”
It could be a sit own interview with 60 Minutes. It could be a question during a debate.
Her answer is simple. “Yes”.
What does that do to the race? How does that land in swing states? How does it land in any state? Does she explain the circumstance?
Harris is a much more dangerous opponent for Trump. He cannot criticise her for actions or experiences from which he is precluded by virtue of… well… you know. He’s a bloke. He can’t have an abortion.
If Harris wins the nomination, do you think Biden will step down as President. It would surely give her campaign a boost.
No, because:
1) The American system doesn't work like that. Plenty of Presidents have been replaced by their Vice-Presidents after serving their term, but not one has ever resigned as a campaign tactic;
2) There would be no realistic way of appointing a Vice President meaning that if there were a plane crash or Maga nutter with a gun and slightly better aim than Crooks Mike Johnson would become Acting President;
3) It would actually be better for Biden to concentrate on running the country leaving Harris free to campaign.
Talking of the USA, off goes the Queen Mary 2 to New York on this sunny evening:
Next crossing, I should be looking at the house from the ship.
We definitely intend doing that crossing in the next few years. Enjoy!
Did a short hop to the continent and back on the QM2 for my parents 50th wedding annversay. Cannot say I would fancy 6 days of slogging across to the states, but whatever floats your boat!
Lol yes, I read RCS's post the wrong way round, doh!
I don't hate Sunak, and I think my disapprobation about his shitshow of a Prime Ministerial run is wholly rational frankly. Nor do I think there's anything especially OTT about it.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
The fact that I referenced my own (relatively mild) dislike of Mr Goldsmith should indicate the jocular nature of my post.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
I won't take an lectures from a man who's happy to mock and press a bruise that's personal to me and my family then.
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Away with you.
Prat.
Well if you are so thin skinned you better give me another handful of flags.
Lol yes, I read RCS's post the wrong way round, doh!
I don't hate Sunak, and I think my disapprobation about his shitshow of a Prime Ministerial run is wholly rational frankly. Nor do I think there's anything especially OTT about it.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
The fact that I referenced my own (relatively mild) dislike of Mr Goldsmith should indicate the jocular nature of my post.
So why are the Democrats backing someone who appears to be a heavy underdog versus Trump?
They don't have an obvious alternative than the person who was going to be the running mate, whose job is to fill in if the President were incapacitated.
I'm sure there will be some disquiet and dissent, but Harris probably means the minimal possible amount.
If Harris wins the nomination, do you think Biden will step down as President. It would surely give her campaign a boost.
No, the GOP would stall a replacement veep until after the election and we need Kamala Harris to oversee the count of the Presidential election on the 6th of January 2025.
Plus we need Veep Harris to ensure the Dem majority in the senate.
That does seem a strange constitutional position come to think of it. Amazing how Kennedy beat Nixon or Bush Gore.
I've just had my mail route changed. I've gone from a town route where Waitrose sold me sandwiches half way round my day, to a rural route where I need to make my own
I've been making myself the best tuna mayo sandwiches
I buy decent tinned tuna. Either Ortiz from Spain or Rio Mare from Italy. I think these cost about double the Waitrose own tins, but it's so worth it: the tuna is pink or white, not brown. And the flavour seems to somehow match the colour. Has to be well drained
I dice, quite finely, salad onions, cucumber and celery into the mix. I'm not a fan of raw celery; I can't imagine wanting to eat a bare, raw stick of it. But it adds a nice complimentary flavour to the tuna salad mix
More importantly the celery adds crunch. I think I learnt this from Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond - without the crunch of celery, it's tuna slop
I then add loads of parsley and chives. I try to make up for the fact that these two glorious tasting herbs have been wasted as garnish for as long as I can remember
Then a dash of Dijon, and enough mayo to make it spread
I like it best in a fresh, buttered baguette
I make much better and a bit cheaper sandwiches than Waitrose
If Harris wins the nomination, do you think Biden will step down as President. It would surely give her campaign a boost.
No, the GOP would stall a replacement veep until after the election and we need Kamala Harris to oversee the count of the Presidential election on the 6th of January 2025.
Plus we need Veep Harris to ensure the Dem majority in the senate.
That does seem a strange constitutional position come to think of it. Amazing how Kennedy beat Nixon or Bush Gore.
It is worth remembering that Richard Nixon, who until a few months ago was the only known (as opposed to convicted) criminal ever to be President, was yet sufficiently honourable to certify his narrow and unexpected election defeat without quibble.
If Harris wins the nomination, do you think Biden will step down as President. It would surely give her campaign a boost.
No, the GOP would stall a replacement veep until after the election and we need Kamala Harris to oversee the count of the Presidential election on the 6th of January 2025.
Plus we need Veep Harris to ensure the Dem majority in the senate.
That does seem a strange constitutional position come to think of it. Amazing how Kennedy beat Nixon or Bush Gore.
In any normal time the Electoral College count is just a formality.
It was only on Jan 6 2021 it was problematic, with the loser inciting a mob to attack the Democratic process.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
I won't take an lectures from a man who's happy to mock and press a bruise that's personal to me and my family then.
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Away with you.
Prat.
Well if you are so thin skinned you better give me another handful of flags.
Can I ask Casino why he has given me a "troll" for a perfectly reasonable comment on the last thread? TSE has mentioned before that the troll button is not simply an opportunity to dismiss posts one disagrees with.
Because you were trolling, and that's what the button is for.
Parents paying for independent schools are already making the sacrifices you describe, including ourselves, and your bunch of charlatans turning the thumbscrews will force them out entirely.
No I wasn't. I made a perfectly reasonable point based on what others have been advising people struggling to heat their homes or put food on their tables.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
I won't take an lectures from a man who's happy to mock and press a bruise that's personal to me and my family then.
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Away with you.
Prat.
Well if you are so thin skinned you better give me another handful of flags.
Like you when autism comes up?
I would bet a pound to a bottletop that every single one of us is on the autism spectrum and further down it than we would care to admit.
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Also bear in mind there will be lots of legal challenges - Democrats will probably use some of the same tactics as the GOP if they lose this time, if hopefully not to the same degree, and the GOP are openly refusing to accept any result they do not agree with.
I've spent a fair amount of time in the US over the past 25 years, and am broadly a GOP supporter, but were I a voter there, I really don't think I could bring myself to vote for Trump, and many Republicans I know (generally of the more intellectual, government-sceptic libertarian ilk) are equally disillusioned with him and the whole MAGA populism thing.
There must still be a fair few on the American Right for whom this 'united GOP' is a massive disappointment, no?
In the absence of a Jorgensen-type option, I'd be seriously considering voting Kamala. And I'm really not a fan of hers either.
So who put some money on him ?
My position was that whichever side lost would have only itself to blame for nominating someone so clearly unsuitable for the job.
Harris clears that hurdle.
How did a once independent political entity become so fervently behind one man, to the point even his family members are massively influential?
But not everyone feels the need to shout about ones they claim to have made.
Is that something you would want to happen?
I mean, he was always a mad, nasty twat, but recent events have just been off the chart.
If Harris bombs a la David Davis then another more charismatic Cameron like contender could replace her. Buttigieg for example could be the Macron to Biden's Hollande and Trump's Le Pen
They can talk about how amazing he looks and astonishing his intellect all they like, their own words would indicate he is not up to 4 more years himself.
Will Independents hold him to the same standard though? In the key states?
It's been undignified, but waiting until now to walk was totally worth it for Biden.
Betfair so crazy I'm not sure Michelle Obama will move out from 30s even when she and Barack endorse Harris.
You really are petty. If I "trolled" your posts that I disagreed with you would have a decent number of troll points. You have been posting here for almost twenty years and yet you still haven't got the hang of how site etiquette works.
I would prefer you to remove the flag, but I doubt you are big enough so to do.
2) Then claim that Trump won in 2020
Now that means the GOP has claimed that Trump was a great President who was cheated out of victory in 2020.
At that point you cannot get rid of him.
Waited for ages. Massive Samsung open topped bus roared past with a huge disco going on up top. More dancers. Then the (blink and you missed it) runner with torch, then a coca cola bus. And possibly other corporate vehicles.
Felt like cheering on a particularly commercialised Tour de France stage but you can't deny there was a feeling good factor.
The scary truth is most of them, like the base, are sincere converts.
Next crossing, I should be looking at the house from the ship.
If she is confirmed, then combined with the GE it's my best political betting year. If she wins in November it will be better still.
If we're going on OTT, we certainly need to include PBs toxic, festering obsession with Liz Truss, which is no more rational for being shared amongst a gang of posters. I don't remember bringing Sunk into totally unrelated topics (such as the Microsoft breakdown).
https://x.com/brianbeutler/status/1814517879309553898?t=IdcWM2RgEzkMH9lhiVulKg&s=19
I've told you about this before. If you persist in doing it then you deserve everything you get. And then you have the temerity to insult me on top as well.
Away with you.
Prat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
Joe Biden was matched at a low of 1.11 to be the Democratic Nominee:
£261,956 traded at 1.12
£325,472 traded at 1.13
£284,862 traded at 1.14
7:38 PM · Jul 21, 2024"
https://x.com/BetfairExchange/status/1815094048337850546
Like so much at the olympics, it was all about the (sponsors) money.
But yet, my response is a bit humourless, I'll give you that.
Plus we need Veep Harris to ensure the Dem majority in the senate.
Imagine that Harris is the nominee. And then the question lands.
“Have you ever had an abortion?”
It could be a sit own interview with 60 Minutes. It could be a question during a debate.
Her answer is simple. “Yes”.
What does that do to the race? How does that land in swing states? How does it land in any state? Does she explain the circumstance?
Harris is a much more dangerous opponent for Trump. He cannot criticise her for actions or experiences from which he is precluded by virtue of… well… you know. He’s a bloke. He can’t have an abortion.
1) The American system doesn't work like that. Plenty of Presidents have been replaced by their Vice-Presidents after serving their term, but not one has ever resigned as a campaign tactic;
2) There would be no realistic way of appointing a Vice President meaning that if there were a plane crash or Maga nutter with a gun and slightly better aim than Crooks Mike Johnson would become Acting President;
3) It would actually be better for Biden to concentrate on running the country leaving Harris free to campaign.
This timeline is f*cked.
In my defence, I'm hungry.
I'm sure there will be some disquiet and dissent, but Harris probably means the minimal possible amount.
Scottish Nationalists who disagree with him on any given point, on the other hand...
Pretty much malcolmg and anyone who is not malcolmg.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.178165812
I've just had my mail route changed. I've gone from a town route where Waitrose sold me sandwiches half way round my day, to a rural route where I need to make my own
I've been making myself the best tuna mayo sandwiches
I buy decent tinned tuna. Either Ortiz from Spain or Rio Mare from Italy. I think these cost about double the Waitrose own tins, but it's so worth it: the tuna is pink or white, not brown. And the flavour seems to somehow match the colour. Has to be well drained
I dice, quite finely, salad onions, cucumber and celery into the mix. I'm not a fan of raw celery; I can't imagine wanting to eat a bare, raw stick of it. But it adds a nice complimentary flavour to the tuna salad mix
More importantly the celery adds crunch. I think I learnt this from Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond - without the crunch of celery, it's tuna slop
I then add loads of parsley and chives. I try to make up for the fact that these two glorious tasting herbs have been wasted as garnish for as long as I can remember
Then a dash of Dijon, and enough mayo to make it spread
I like it best in a fresh, buttered baguette
I make much better and a bit cheaper sandwiches than Waitrose
Gretchen Whitmer for me.
(Returns to lurking!)
Donald Trump - worse than Nixon.
What an epitaph.
It was only on Jan 6 2021 it was problematic, with the loser inciting a mob to attack the Democratic process.