Thank goodness, at last. I think its too late for anyone but Harris. It would have been different if he had stood down last year but right now the Democrats need to get behind a single candidate really fast and it has to be someone who has to be already known. Too late for the governors or even Buttigieg although I would want him on the ticket. He is just too good to waste.
I believe Newsom has many many skeletons which will be dragged out by Trump and co and negate a lot of attacks on Trump. Whitmer would be sensible option but Harris has as close to incumbency as possible so she will be favourite.
He’s not known as Gruesome Newsom for no reason. Michelle not interested and really would be taking one for the world if she steps up, and Hilary is toxic.
Reasonable timing I think. If the Dems get this right they could be entering election time with a bit of a new leader honeymoon. But then again they may crash further.
Come on Democrats. We need the next few months to be the American “deuxième tour”. Choose someone half decent. Choose Mayor Pete.
All I need for all my lays to come in is for the Dems to find someone who can beat Trump. Saving the civilised world at the same time would be a bonus.
I believe Newsom has many many skeletons which will be dragged out by Trump and co and negate a lot of attacks on Trump. Whitmer would be sensible option but Harris has as close to incumbency as possible so she will be favourite.
He’s not known as Gruesome Newsom for no reason. Michelle not interested and really would be taking one for the world if she steps up, and Hilary is toxic.
Agree with most of above, though just how "gruesome" is Newsom is highly debatable, my guess is WAY less than you think.
As for Gretchen Whitmer, reckon she's make a VERY good Vice Presidential nominee. Past denials of interest not worth much AFTER the Biden announcement.
Josh Shapiro also in the frame, and is also attractive prospect IMHO.
He did it too late, but now there is a chance for the Democrats.
Fascinatingly, he has not endorsed or hinted at an alternative candidate. I assumed he would tell his delegates to back Harris. If he does not - wow; it could be a rollercoaster few weeks.
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this."
Joe Biden @JoeBiden My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
I believe Newsom has many many skeletons which will be dragged out by Trump and co and negate a lot of attacks on Trump. Whitmer would be sensible option but Harris has as close to incumbency as possible so she will be favourite.
He’s not known as Gruesome Newsom for no reason. Michelle not interested and really would be taking one for the world if she steps up, and Hilary is toxic.
Agree with most of above, though just how "gruesome" is Newsom is highly debatable, my guess is WAY less than you think.
As for Gretchen Whitmer, reckon she's make a VERY good Vice Presidential nominee. Past denials of interest not worth much AFTER the Biden announcement.
Josh Shapiro also in the frame, and is also attractive prospect IMHO.
I understand Newsom has had a lively past which I personally wouldn’t care about but it’s something that could be weaponised against him if he is attacking Trump for being less than pure. The dems need competence mixed with being clean.
Whoever it ends up being let’s just hope they have enough to save us from Trump.
I believe Newsom has many many skeletons which will be dragged out by Trump and co and negate a lot of attacks on Trump. Whitmer would be sensible option but Harris has as close to incumbency as possible so she will be favourite.
He’s not known as Gruesome Newsom for no reason. Michelle not interested and really would be taking one for the world if she steps up, and Hilary is toxic.
Agree with most of above, though just how "gruesome" is Newsom is highly debatable, my guess is WAY less than you think.
As for Gretchen Whitmer, reckon she's make a VERY good Vice Presidential nominee. Past denials of interest not worth much AFTER the Biden announcement.
Josh Shapiro also in the frame, and is also attractive prospect IMHO.
I don’t think Whitmer wants to be a VP and I doubt you’d get a joint woman ticket if Harris wins the nomination . Shapiro is great, a fantastic speaker.
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
Somewhat surprised Biden as endorsed Harris, but not what you'd call shocked.
Essentially he's released his super-majority of 2024 Democratic National Convention delegates to her. Which in addition to other factors will likely be persuasive to most if hardly all.
Clearly Joe Biden is NOT receiving spiritual-psephological guidance from The Vicar.
Key to this decision was NOT likes of Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi or etc. etc. etc.
Instead, Jill Biden.
I hope and pray that Jill Biden did persuade her husband to take this momentous, if personally difficult decision for him
It would be evidence of her putting her love for her husband first, especially as he may not see it that way as many of those suffering dementia struggle to accept the condition and the essential changes needed to adapt to it
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
I reckon that's a wise decision, because it means the spotlight will turn almost immediately on to Trump - and Vance - without the distraction of more speculation about divisions among the Democrats.
Somewhat surprised Biden as endorsed Harris, but not what you'd call shocked.
Essentially he's released his super-majority of 2024 Democratic National Convention delegates to her. Which in addition to other factors will likely be persuasive to most if hardly all.
Doesn’t she get his donations as she was on the original ticket . That helps of course .
Game, set and match Trump if the Democrats endorse Harris after Biden's withdrawal and follow his mistaken recommendation.
Harris would lose all the rustbelt swing states Biden won in 2020 and probably lead the Democrats to their worst defeat in the Electoral College since Dukakis as well as losing the popular vote.
Newsom would be just as bad, Democrats only hope now a rustbelt governor like Shapiro or Buttigieg
A rare foray onto this forum. I hope everyone is well. I think particularly of my friends @Big_G_NorthWales and @OldKingCole and respective spouses.
3.5 years ago I placed a bet on an outsider Democrat to be the 2024 nominee and winner. Nice odds
I’m not going to say who because I don’t want to jinx things but even now there are some stunning odds on various candidates if you move fast.
A lot depends on whether you think Kamala is a shoo-in for the nomination.
Thank you @Heathener and my wife and I are fortunate not to be experiencing dementia yet, but have a lot of experience of it in the family and with our peers
We are pleased on a personal level for the Biden family the decision is made
I think this is the right decision but it makes me feel unaccountably sad. I think Biden is an enormously decent man and his presidency has been a great success. when he was campaigning in 2020 I was always impressed by his decency and empathy. It's sad it has to end like this.
FUUUCK! FUUCK! FUUCK! All the model predictions are dead! This is really going to screw things up!
Are they? The polls seem quite sticky despite many big twists and turnsm
I meant the models. There are a pile of American political scientists that produce models and each election year they produce predictions which can then be measured. See https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/ or Sabato's Crystal Ball. Some use polls, some use econometrics some use keys or Primary votes.
Game, set and match Trump if the Democrats endorse Harris after Biden's withdrawal and follow his mistaken recommendation.
Harris would lose all the rustbelt swing states Biden won in 2020 and probably lead the Democrats to their worst defeat in the Electoral College since Dukakis as well as losing the popular vote.
Newsom would be just as bad, Democrats only hope now a rustbelt governor like Shapiro or Buttigieg
I think you're making too many assumptions too quickly.
Others may yet throw their hats in the ring. I’m not sure she has it sewn up.
The first opinion polls will be crucial. I guess they have already done some, but it’s not quite the same when it’s hypothetical (okay, it’s still hypothetical but it’s got to be someone else now so might focus the mind more).
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this."
Biden does the right thing and bows out with still a lot of love and respect from Dems .
Ahahahaha
You support Harris over Trump if she is the nominee now, yes?
With the most enormous reluctance - an infinite mega-tonnage of reluctance - yes
I’d far far prefer a sane anti woke Republican. I’d vote for Vance in a heartbeat. But Trump? No
Vance is more dangerous than Trump. He would sell out Ukraine in a second and systematically degrade democracy in the US. The sane, anti-woke Republicans are people like Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney, who have been purged from the party. The lunatics are in charge of that asylum now.
No, Trump remains odds-on; Kamala 3.5 or 5/2 in old money. For one thing, Trump definitely is the GOP nominee, and even with Biden's endorsement, Harris is not yet certain.
That said, many punters will not have seen the news.
Game, set and match Trump if the Democrats endorse Harris after Biden's withdrawal and follow his mistaken recommendation.
Harris would lose all the rustbelt swing states Biden won in 2020 and probably lead the Democrats to their worst defeat in the Electoral College since Dukakis as well as losing the popular vote.
Newsom would be just as bad, Democrats only hope now a rustbelt governor like Shapiro or Buttigieg
Harris is a prosecutor that represents law and order against the convicted criminal leading the Republicans.
I think this is the right decision but it makes me feel unaccountably sad. I think Biden is an enormously decent man and his presidency has been a great success. when he was campaigning in 2020 I was always impressed by his decency and empathy. It's sad it has to end like this.
If the Dems do win the White House in November then Biden will go down as one of the truly great Presidents.
Defeated Trump then stood aside to help defeat Trump.
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Michelle 14
Newsom 16
Whitmer 16
Hillary 17
Very close if not Harris.
(Clinton lol!)
Key to this decision was NOT likes of Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi or etc. etc. etc.
Instead, Jill Biden.
He’s not known as Gruesome Newsom for no reason. Michelle not interested and really would be taking one for the world if she steps up, and Hilary is toxic.
One candidate has been shot and the other has pulled out before it's even started
There's surely huge intrigue and interest to come
The Dem nomination for starters..
Anticipating the tears ... hopefully of Chump.
The VP market is very interesting.
Is Shapiro really a shoe in ?
Come on Democrats. We need the next few months to be the American “deuxième tour”. Choose someone half decent. Choose Mayor Pete.
If he’d stayed, it would have cost me.
3.5 years ago I placed a bet on an outsider Democrat to be the 2024 nominee and winner. Nice odds
I’m not going to say who because I don’t want to jinx things but even now there are some stunning odds on various candidates if you move fast.
A lot depends on whether you think Kamala is a shoo-in for the nomination.
As for Gretchen Whitmer, reckon she's make a VERY good Vice Presidential nominee. Past denials of interest not worth much AFTER the Biden announcement.
Josh Shapiro also in the frame, and is also attractive prospect IMHO.
As per 26th May 1989 ... (sorry TSE)
"It's up for grabs now".
Better late than never.
Just a reminder too that Trump is no spring chicken. Trump will be older than Biden is now by the end of term in January 2029
If the Dems are sensible they might well show up his age to their advantage.
But are they sensible?
Fascinatingly, he has not endorsed or hinted at an alternative candidate. I assumed he would tell his delegates to back Harris. If he does not - wow; it could be a rollercoaster few weeks.
"Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this."
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933
He's been behind every world crisis since he started editing the Site.
Moscow not so chipper
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
Whoever it ends up being let’s just hope they have enough to save us from Trump.
Harris v Trump will be a fascinating contest.
And I’m sure @Roger told us “oh it’s just a debate they’re always forgotten”
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933
Essentially he's released his super-majority of 2024 Democratic National Convention delegates to her. Which in addition to other factors will likely be persuasive to most if hardly all.
Harris 1.24
Newsom 29
H Clinton 38
Whitmer 40
M Obama 40
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.178163685
It would be evidence of her putting her love for her husband first, especially as he may not see it that way as many of those suffering dementia struggle to accept the condition and the essential changes needed to adapt to it
May they both enjoy a more peaceful time ahead
I’d far far prefer a sane anti woke Republican. I’d vote for Vance in a heartbeat. But Trump? No
Wow!!!
Huge times.
Is TSE on holiday?
A public service announcement.
I am taking a holiday from the 16th of August through to the 26th of August.
Edit also a holiday from the 25th of September through to 6th of October.
Trump 1.62
Harris 3.4
M Obama 42
Newsom 48
Whitmer 95
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.176878927
Harris would lose all the rustbelt swing states Biden won in 2020 and probably lead the Democrats to their worst defeat in the Electoral College since Dukakis as well as losing the popular vote.
Newsom would be just as bad, Democrats only hope now a rustbelt governor like Shapiro or Buttigieg
We are pleased on a personal level for the Biden family the decision is made
All the best to you
Biden’s Twitter:
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933
That said, many punters will not have seen the news.
Defeated Trump then stood aside to help defeat Trump.