I've just had my mail route changed. I've gone from a town route where Waitrose sold me sandwiches half way round my day, to a rural route where I need to make my own
I've been making myself the best tuna mayo sandwiches
I buy decent tinned tuna. Either Ortiz from Spain or Rio Mare from Italy. I think these cost about double the Waitrose own tins, but it's so worth it: the tuna is pink or white, not brown. And the flavour seems to somehow match the colour. Has to be well drained
I dice, quite finely, salad onions, cucumber and celery into the mix. I'm not a fan of raw celery; I can't imagine wanting to eat a bare, raw stick of it. But it adds a nice complimentary flavour to the tuna salad mix
More importantly the celery adds crunch. I think I learnt this from Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond - without the crunch of celery, it's tuna slop
I then add loads of parsley and chives. I try to make up for the fact that these two glorious tasting herbs have been wasted as garnish for as long as I can remember
Then a dash of Dijon, and enough mayo to make it spread
I like it best in a fresh, buttered baguette
I make much better and a bit cheaper sandwiches than Waitrose
Mayonnaise.
We're not American.
Bugger that, what's wrong with British salad cream?
The sandwich sounds nice, but I like something a bit sweeter in with my tuna mayonnaise - a nice zingy diced apple would be a good addition.
I feel like I did after watching Shoah. At least I got about 22 hours into Shoah before giving up - and it felt somewhat more historically important.
back to liz;
2 comments from other people sum it up;
nolslifegren 3 weeks ago "Bit Spinal Tap this . Next stop end of the pier - Puppet Show + Liz Truss"
and (Seen on Twitter);
"You should write to your MP about that"
Indeed.
Pure delusion, and desperation from the comedians who once showed promise - and maybe had a point about being cancelled. or whatever. anyway, what has become of them now?
I wonder if they surrendered editorial control? Anyway, those guys need a new business model. YT Ads every 2 minutes. Inserts flogging gold, shredding their credibility. It's borderline unwatchable.
The real Epstein appeared in at least 70 - different photos with Trump, plus Trump is evidenced both saying how well he knows him, and outright lying about any association.
There's material to be mined; the question is whether the MSM will cover it.
Surely better as a VP pick if they wanted to go that way.
In 1940, Republicans nominated Wendell Willkie who was a registered Democrat until 1939.
Attractive candidate in many respects, he peaked when the won the GOP nomination, beating the Old Guard represented by Herbert Hoover and Robert Taft. BUT he proved less adept and appealing on the campaign trail.
I've just had my mail route changed. I've gone from a town route where Waitrose sold me sandwiches half way round my day, to a rural route where I need to make my own
I've been making myself the best tuna mayo sandwiches
I buy decent tinned tuna. Either Ortiz from Spain or Rio Mare from Italy. I think these cost about double the Waitrose own tins, but it's so worth it: the tuna is pink or white, not brown. And the flavour seems to somehow match the colour. Has to be well drained
I dice, quite finely, salad onions, cucumber and celery into the mix. I'm not a fan of raw celery; I can't imagine wanting to eat a bare, raw stick of it. But it adds a nice complimentary flavour to the tuna salad mix
More importantly the celery adds crunch. I think I learnt this from Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond - without the crunch of celery, it's tuna slop
I then add loads of parsley and chives. I try to make up for the fact that these two glorious tasting herbs have been wasted as garnish for as long as I can remember
Then a dash of Dijon, and enough mayo to make it spread
I like it best in a fresh, buttered baguette
I make much better and a bit cheaper sandwiches than Waitrose
Try horseradish instead of Dijon. Horseradish with certain fish is magnificent. Perfect with mackerel, new potatoes and beetroot weirdly.
"Bonsan vibrant red Beetroot & Horseradish spread really packs a punch. Made from earthy beetroots, fiery horseradish and sunflower seeds this healthy spread is the perfect accompaniment spread onto toast or in sandwiches, or even used as a dip for crudités."
I like the sound of that but terrible website, the where to buy link goes nowhere. Any supermarket etc stockists?
I have beetroot and horseradish sauce in my fridge, and a blender ... why would anyone need a stockist?
I've just had my mail route changed. I've gone from a town route where Waitrose sold me sandwiches half way round my day, to a rural route where I need to make my own
I've been making myself the best tuna mayo sandwiches
I buy decent tinned tuna. Either Ortiz from Spain or Rio Mare from Italy. I think these cost about double the Waitrose own tins, but it's so worth it: the tuna is pink or white, not brown. And the flavour seems to somehow match the colour. Has to be well drained
I dice, quite finely, salad onions, cucumber and celery into the mix. I'm not a fan of raw celery; I can't imagine wanting to eat a bare, raw stick of it. But it adds a nice complimentary flavour to the tuna salad mix
More importantly the celery adds crunch. I think I learnt this from Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond - without the crunch of celery, it's tuna slop
I then add loads of parsley and chives. I try to make up for the fact that these two glorious tasting herbs have been wasted as garnish for as long as I can remember
Then a dash of Dijon, and enough mayo to make it spread
I like it best in a fresh, buttered baguette
I make much better and a bit cheaper sandwiches than Waitrose
Sounds delightful.
Similar recipes work well with finely sliced cooked chicken instead of tuna, should you have it left over.
Hope you're scooping out cucumber insides and discarding. Makes it less sloppy.
Discarding???
That's the nicest bit!
Putting your status as my favourite PB lefty in jeopardy with this crazy talk.
I might suggest treetop onions, which are stronger flavour.
PBers may wish to consider, the definite possibility that in the minds (and maybe even the hearts) of leading Democrats from Obama down, today is JOE BIDEN's Day.
With BIG NEWS being his withdrawl from race AND endorsement of Harris.
KH announcing her candidacy ASAP was imperative (politics like nature abhors a vacuum) so she did it, but that does NOT take the day away from JB.
Personally think that the Clintons horning in, is attempting to make themselves relevant to the political realities of 2024. Which IMHO they are NOT except as baggage.
My own Fearless PB Prediction, is that Obama, Pelosi, etc., etc. will be endorsing Kamala Harris in due course.
Many Republicans are going to say Harris is a “DEI” pick, which will play well with their base, but might make them look obnoxious to the swing voters.
The pendulum is swinging against DEI in the US much faster than it is here. Ordinary Americans are now generally against the idea of of DEI and if the GOP can successfully label Kamala as the DEI candidate they'll win a landslide.
Many Republicans are going to say Harris is a “DEI” pick, which will play well with their base, but might make them look obnoxious to the swing voters.
The pendulum is swinging against DEI in the US much faster than it is here. Ordinary Americans are now generally against the idea of of DEI and if the GOP can successfully label Kamala as the DEI candidate they'll win a landslide.
Fact that she's been Vice President for last four years makes this attack ad less effective.
I like Aron Sorkin’s suggestion of Romney. The base would hate it, and some would no doubt abstain in the election, but the result would be Trump soundly thrashed.
How on Earth after being president, can anyone have a positive view of Trump. Mad.
I think all of us on here would do well to remember that many people do not share our own political opinions; probably even more so for voters in foreign countries who may live in a polity with some very different values to those of the UK.
I am not disputing that - I am just saying it's mad.
Mad to you maybe, but clearly not to millions of Americans.
Again, that's not in dispute. I am just saying it's still mad.
Taking the question seriously, I've been in America, and talked about this with some Republicans, in a non-judgemental way. This is what they usually say:
- the economy was better during Trump's time in office, in particular prices of day-to-day essentials were more affordable - Trump appointed hundreds of conservative judges, in particular his three Supreme Court picks, who are getting rid of some of the more egregious liberal overreaches of the last 70 years - the world was more peaceful back then - he has no time for woke DEI bullshit - he's better than the weak and mediocre alternative or is at least more entertaining
Of course lots of that is rose-tinted spectacles, and some of it is simply wrong, but that's what they seem to think, and it's apparently difficult to persuade them otherwise.
Many Republicans are going to say Harris is a “DEI” pick, which will play well with their base, but might make them look obnoxious to the swing voters.
The pendulum is swinging against DEI in the US much faster than it is here. Ordinary Americans are now generally against the idea of of DEI and if the GOP can successfully label Kamala as the DEI candidate they'll win a landslide.
Fact that she's been Vice President for last four years makes this attack ad less effective.
Many Republicans are going to say Harris is a “DEI” pick, which will play well with their base, but might make them look obnoxious to the swing voters.
The pendulum is swinging against DEI in the US much faster than it is here. Ordinary Americans are now generally against the idea of of DEI and if the GOP can successfully label Kamala as the DEI candidate they'll win a landslide.
Fact that she's been Vice President for last four years makes this attack ad less effective.
I don't think so because Biden picked her as part of a DEI ticket back then and now she inherits the nomination in a fixed race.
I really want to see Trump beaten in November and Kamala won't be able to do it. The more people see her the more the dislike her and now she's going to be everywhere as the nominee.
How on Earth after being president, can anyone have a positive view of Trump. Mad.
I think all of us on here would do well to remember that many people do not share our own political opinions; probably even more so for voters in foreign countries who may live in a polity with some very different values to those of the UK.
I am not disputing that - I am just saying it's mad.
Mad to you maybe, but clearly not to millions of Americans.
Again, that's not in dispute. I am just saying it's still mad.
Taking the question seriously, I've been in America, and talked about this with some Republicans, in a non-judgemental way. This is what they usually say:
- the economy was better during Trump's time in office, in particular prices of day-to-day essentials were more affordable - Trump appointed hundreds of conservative judges, in particular his three Supreme Court picks, who are getting rid of some of the more egregious liberal overreaches of the last 70 years - the world was more peaceful back then - he has no time for woke DEI bullshit - he's better than the weak and mediocre alternative or is at least more entertaining
Of course lots of that is rose-tinted spectacles, and some of it is simply wrong, but that's what they seem to think, and it's apparently difficult to persuade them otherwise.
I’ve had similar conversations, and I’d add to that “he will cut our taxes”. I think they are so used to his craziness that it doesn’t daunt them like it does us in Europe.
PBers may wish to consider, the definite possibility that in the minds (and maybe even the hearts) of leading Democrats from Obama down, today is JOE BIDEN's Day.
With BIG NEWS being his withdrawl from race AND endorsement of Harris.
KH announcing her candidacy ASAP was imperative (politics like nature abhors a vacuum) so she did it, but that does NOT take the day away from JB.
Personally think that the Clintons horning in, is attempting to make themselves relevant to the political realities of 2024. Which IMHO they are NOT except as baggage.
My own Fearless PB Prediction, is that Obama, Pelosi, etc., etc. will be endorsing Kamala Harris in due course.
We shall see.
As Joe Biden would say: Malarkey!
Obama's statement explicitly refers to a process from which a nominee will emerge. He declined to endorse Biden's choice and instead leant his weight towards opening a contest.
Representative Debbie Dingell, a Democratic ally of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, said on MSNBC that she had spoken with the governor and that Whitmer was “not a candidate for any office this year.”
NY Times
Many have said the like in the history of the Republic, but somehow managed to change their minds IF they are actually asked and/or nominated.
PBers may wish to consider, the definite possibility that in the minds (and maybe even the hearts) of leading Democrats from Obama down, today is JOE BIDEN's Day.
With BIG NEWS being his withdrawl from race AND endorsement of Harris.
KH announcing her candidacy ASAP was imperative (politics like nature abhors a vacuum) so she did it, but that does NOT take the day away from JB.
Personally think that the Clintons horning in, is attempting to make themselves relevant to the political realities of 2024. Which IMHO they are NOT except as baggage.
My own Fearless PB Prediction, is that Obama, Pelosi, etc., etc. will be endorsing Kamala Harris in due course.
We shall see.
As Joe Biden would say: Malarkey!
Obama's statement explicitly refers to a process from which a nominee will emerge. He declined to endorse Biden's choice and instead leant his weight towards opening a contest.
Remember the (small integer)th rule of politics.
Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.
If the party management plan is to ease Harris into the nomination, it's vital that everyone (including Harris) will talk about a competitive process.
There are very many good reasons to think that any such process will end up with exactly one candidate.
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
He should have kept quiet if he'd wanted to most help Harris.
You are GREATLY over-estimating antipathy to Soros, outside the rightwing-Putin-MAGA echo chamber. For one thing, most voters don't know OR care who the heck he is.
What his statement DOES signify, is a signal to major donors - Democratic and Independent - to get on board the Harris Express.
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
She has 46% unfavourable according to your earlier post. That's a net -11, same as Trump.
'@RobertKennedyJr · 2h I will be giving a press conference today at 5 p.m. ET at the Kennedy Compound, Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
Is he likely to endorse Harris?
Anything but, Kennedy like Obama demands an open nomination convention
'I commend President Biden for stepping down. His infirmities were evident to any unbiased observer from the beginning. It was this progressive deterioration — and his abandonment of Democratic Party principles — that prompted me to enter the race and ensure American voters had a viable, vigorous alternative to Donald Trump.
Yet the response of the DNC was to try and hide President Biden’s degeneration from the American public and disable democracy to ram him through to his party’s nomination.
Many Americans fear that the same DNC elites are about to rig the nominating process again to get a monumentally unpopular vice president to step into President Biden’s shoes.
I call on the Democratic Party to return to its traditional commitment to democracy and exemplify it with an open process. Instead of anointing a candidate hand-picked by DNC elites, the party should use neutral polling to identify the candidate who can best beat Donald Trump. The delegates should then select a nominee based on this information.
If they had done this to begin with, I would not have had to leave the Democratic Party.'
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
He should have kept quiet if he'd wanted to most help Harris.
You are GREATLY over-estimating antipathy to Soros, outside the rightwing-Putin-MAGA echo chamber. For one thing, most voters don't know OR care who the heck he is.
What his statement DOES signify, is a signal to major donors - Democratic and Independent - to get on board the Harris Express.
Quite a number of congresspeople endorsing.
My feeling is that the Dems want to avoid the impression of a stitch up, but at some point soon, unless one of the big names throws their hat in the ring (which seems fairly unlikely), it become a fact accompli anyway.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She’s not especially un-popular.
Just that she looks to lose, fairly narrowly, against Trump.
She’s not the best political performer. Her prosecutorial history is not liked by blacks or the left of the Democrat Party. Her recent attempts to attach herself to more liberal causes have put off more people than she gained.
Essentially, she has the CV for a presidential candidate. But she doesn’t seem to have the instincts and abilities that make a political star, in the US.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
He should have kept quiet if he'd wanted to most help Harris.
You are GREATLY over-estimating antipathy to Soros, outside the rightwing-Putin-MAGA echo chamber. For one thing, most voters don't know OR care who the heck he is.
What his statement DOES signify, is a signal to major donors - Democratic and Independent - to get on board the Harris Express.
Quite a number of congresspeople endorsing.
My feeling is that the Dems want to avoid the impression of a stitch up, but at some point soon, unless one of the big names throws their hat in the ring (which seems fairly unlikely), it become a fact accompli anyway.
IMHO there is a high degree of choreography re: endorsements of Harris by leading Democratic muckety-mucks.
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She’s not especially un-popular.
Just that she looks to lose, fairly narrowly, against Trump.
She’s not the best political performer. Her prosecutorial history is not liked by blacks or the left of the Democrat Party. Her recent attempts to attach herself to more liberal causes have put off more people than she gained.
Essentially, she has the CV for a presidential candidate. But she doesn’t seem to have the instincts and abilities that make a political star, in the US.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Of course she stands a chance; she's not a shoo-in, or even favourite, but she stands a fair chance.
What the fuck. I mean...what the fuck. What the actual fuck. Da-what? Aaargh!
(for all those of you not following, somebody who claims to be able to tell the future by casting asparagusi predicted that a woman would win the election. Before Biden bye-den'd)
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Newsom won't win either. I think his appeal is too coastal, will be a rerun of the Al Gore campaign in 2000 which as we know didn't win and many of the swing states have trended to the right since then. Newsom will likely run up huge margins in California, Washington, New York and other liberal parts of the nation but lose swing states.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Whitmer has the best chance imho.
But we are where we are and Kamala is 10x better than a far too old Biden.
A few hours after Joe Biden dropped his re-election bid, his campaign fund was renamed “Harris for President,” a filing with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) shows.
Another document filed by the previous Biden for President campaign to the FEC notes that Harris is “no longer a candidate” for vice-president and is instead a candidate for president and “will henceforth be conducting campaign activities only in pursuit of that office.”
The move gives Harris, already the frontrunner for the presidency among Democrats, access to the Biden campaign coffers. A campaign filing yesterday showed the campaign has nearly $96 million in cash on hand.
He should have kept quiet if he'd wanted to most help Harris.
You are GREATLY over-estimating antipathy to Soros, outside the rightwing-Putin-MAGA echo chamber. For one thing, most voters don't know OR care who the heck he is.
What his statement DOES signify, is a signal to major donors - Democratic and Independent - to get on board the Harris Express.
Quite a number of congresspeople endorsing.
My feeling is that the Dems want to avoid the impression of a stitch up, but at some point soon, unless one of the big names throws their hat in the ring (which seems fairly unlikely), it become a fact accompli anyway.
IMHO there is a high degree of choreography re: endorsements of Harris by leading Democratic muckety-mucks.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Newsom won't win either. I think his appeal is too coastal, will be a rerun of the Al Gore campaign in 2000 which as we know didn't win and many of the swing states have trended to the right since then. Newsom will likely run up huge margins in California, Washington, New York and other liberal parts of the nation but lose swing states.
Same applies to Harris.
Buttigieg is clearly preparing for a candidacy at the convention, Harris is likely to sack him apparently from the Cabinet if she becomes POTUS and there is no love lost between them.
At the moment the divide looks like 2008, the Clintons and Democrat old guard behind Harris and trying to make her heir apparent, the Obamas and Kennedys want a younger more dynamic candidate like Buttigieg
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
Have any governors endorsed her yet, or are the all on team Obama and wanting to avoid a coronation?
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
Have any governors endorsed her yet, or are the all on team Obama and wanting to avoid a coronation?
Half of them probably think they can be nominee and are more electable than her
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Newsom won't win either. I think his appeal is too coastal, will be a rerun of the Al Gore campaign in 2000 which as we know didn't win and many of the swing states have trended to the right since then. Newsom will likely run up huge margins in California, Washington, New York and other liberal parts of the nation but lose swing states.
Why are you right wingers so convinced Trump will walk it?
You may of course be correct, nonetheless Trump appears to me to be such a flawed candidate anything can happen now Sleepy Joe is out of the picture.
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She's tied to Biden
She's black and female.
So is Michelle Obama but she has far more charisma than Harris
@RobertKennedyJr · 2h I will be giving a press conference today at 5 p.m. ET at the Kennedy Compound, Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
Sideshow Bob.
Not as sane as that...
GSOH, though.
RFK Jr. is giving a press conference in Hyannis Port.
“I would certainly listen to the [Democrat] party elders if they came to me…I’m the only presidential candidate who can beat Donald Trump, and if I were them I would do that and I would certainly listen to their proposals” https://x.com/VeraMBergen/status/1815138567187779858
I like Aron Sorkin’s suggestion of Romney. The base would hate it, and some would no doubt abstain in the election, but the result would be Trump soundly thrashed.
Was Sorkin on something when he said that ? It’s delusional .
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
I like Aron Sorkin’s suggestion of Romney. The base would hate it, and some would no doubt abstain in the election, but the result would be Trump soundly thrashed.
Was Sorkin on something when he said that ? It’s delusional .
@RobertKennedyJr · 2h I will be giving a press conference today at 5 p.m. ET at the Kennedy Compound, Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
Sideshow Bob.
Not as sane as that...
GSOH, though.
RFK Jr. is giving a press conference in Hyannis Port.
“I would certainly listen to the [Democrat] party elders if they came to me…I’m the only presidential candidate who can beat Donald Trump, and if I were them I would do that and I would certainly listen to their proposals” https://x.com/VeraMBergen/status/1815138567187779858
I like Aron Sorkin’s suggestion of Romney. The base would hate it, and some would no doubt abstain in the election, but the result would be Trump soundly thrashed.
And you would get a "severely conservative" presidency.
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She's tied to Biden
She's black and female.
So is Michelle Obama but she has far more charisma than Harris
People saying Harris has no charisma haven't seen her in action. Michelle Obama is very popular because she has no political record and got to spend eight years as First Lady hugging puppies and helping charities.
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She's tied to Biden
She's black and female.
I don't think being the first female president has the same significance as Obama being the first Black president, i.e. I doubt it makes a difference
You're being selective in quoting polling again. You chose not to add from the same poll:
Biden: 32% favorable, 55% unfavorable, 9% no opinion
i.e. Opinion significantly more favourable towards Harris than Biden at the point just before he took the decision not to run again.
Well if Biden felt he couldn't beat Trump again on those numbers Harris sure ain't either!
Why? She has lower unfavorables as well.
And in FPTP, having less active dislike of you is often the winning move.
She has 47% unfavourable, just 35% favourable that is a huge net negative for her with none of the enthusiasm for her from Democrats Trump has from his supporters
Question for people who know more about US politics than me: why exactly is KH so supposedly unpopular? From what I’ve seen of her she’s OK, a bit bland maybe, certainly not a particularly divisive personality. Contrast with someone like JD Vance, or on the Dem side AOC.
She's tied to Biden
She's black and female.
I don't think being the first female president has the same significance as Obama being the first Black president, i.e. I doubt it makes a difference
I think it does have an effect, it’s just whether the effect outweighs others (which I doubt).
There is definitely a demographic in the US who love the thought of voting for a female president. They were very strongly behind Hillary for that reason. But it wasn’t enough to get her over the line.
Who - if anybody - is the straight working-class white male Democratic governor who can balance the ticket? I don't see the South going for Harris/Buttigieg, Newsom is a California liberal so too posh and libby, Whitmer is a woman. How about Roy Cooper? (D-North Carolina)?
Have any governors endorsed her yet, or are the all on team Obama and wanting to avoid a coronation?
Half of them probably think they can be nominee and are more electable than her
There has been much speculation about why former President Barack Obama did not endorse Kamala Harris in his statement. A person familiar with his thinking says he is following the same policy of neutrality he adopted in the 2020 Democratic primaries and will stand ready to “help unite the party once we have a nominee.”
I'll try again: Is Kamala Harris a black woman? No.
Through her Jamaican father she is approximately one-fourth black. Calling her black is like me claiming to be Danish because one of my grandmothers was from Denmark.
She's a mixed-race woman, who came out of the scandal-plagued California Democratic Party.
Was she part of those scandals? Judge for yourself: "In November 2014, state and federal agents raided the CPUC 's offices in a joint investigation of potential criminal activities related to the permanent closure and settlements proceedings of SONGS. Kamala Harris. California's attorney gneral at the time. either killed or stalled the investigation. The CPUC refused to turn oversixty or more emails from Governor Brown's office." source: Michael Shellenberger's "Apocalypse Never", p. 214.
There has been much speculation about why former President Barack Obama did not endorse Kamala Harris in his statement. A person familiar with his thinking says he is following the same policy of neutrality he adopted in the 2020 Democratic primaries and will stand ready to “help unite the party once we have a nominee.”
NY Times
So that tells us that this wasn't particularly orchestrated.
Joe Biden is one of the handful of truly great presidents in American history and a patriot beyond measure. We Democrats will be unified and focused behind our next President, Kamala Harris, to keep their great success going and to defeat the autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Such fawning won't help.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
Newsom won't win either. I think his appeal is too coastal, will be a rerun of the Al Gore campaign in 2000 which as we know didn't win and many of the swing states have trended to the right since then. Newsom will likely run up huge margins in California, Washington, New York and other liberal parts of the nation but lose swing states.
Why are you right wingers so convinced Trump will walk it?
You may of course be correct, nonetheless Trump appears to me to be such a flawed candidate anything can happen now Sleepy Joe is out of the picture.
I'm a right winger, well a One Nation Tory anyway (if that's still allowed), and I'm betting huge on Harris at present. I'm really not sure who will win, but having backed at longer odds I still think she is value so am reluctant to trade out.
Comments
https://youtu.be/jqN-B4DVUww
I feel like I did after watching Shoah. At least I got about 22 hours into Shoah before giving up - and it felt somewhat more historically important.
back to liz;
2 comments from other people sum it up;
nolslifegren
3 weeks ago
"Bit Spinal Tap this . Next stop end of the pier - Puppet Show + Liz Truss"
and (Seen on Twitter);
"You should write to your MP about that"
Indeed.
Pure delusion, and desperation from the comedians who once showed promise - and maybe had a point about being cancelled. or whatever. anyway, what has become of them now?
I wonder if they surrendered editorial control? Anyway, those guys need a new business model. YT Ads every 2 minutes. Inserts flogging gold, shredding their credibility. It's borderline unwatchable.
There's material to be mined; the question is whether the MSM will cover it.
Blindsided: Biden team was whipping delegates when he dropped out
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/21/joe-biden-drops-out-election/biden-team-calling-delegates-drop-out-00170032
Attractive candidate in many respects, he peaked when the won the GOP nomination, beating the Old Guard represented by Herbert Hoover and Robert Taft. BUT he proved less adept and appealing on the campaign trail.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784737-kamala-harris-democratic-nomination/
With BIG NEWS being his withdrawl from race AND endorsement of Harris.
KH announcing her candidacy ASAP was imperative (politics like nature abhors a vacuum) so she did it, but that does NOT take the day away from JB.
Personally think that the Clintons horning in, is attempting to make themselves relevant to the political realities of 2024. Which IMHO they are NOT except as baggage.
My own Fearless PB Prediction, is that Obama, Pelosi, etc., etc. will be endorsing Kamala Harris in due course.
We shall see.
@RobertKennedyJr
·
2h
I will be giving a press conference today at 5 p.m. ET at the Kennedy Compound, Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
- the economy was better during Trump's time in office, in particular prices of day-to-day essentials were more affordable
- Trump appointed hundreds of conservative judges, in particular his three Supreme Court picks, who are getting rid of some of the more egregious liberal overreaches of the last 70 years
- the world was more peaceful back then
- he has no time for woke DEI bullshit
- he's better than the weak and mediocre alternative or is at least more entertaining
Of course lots of that is rose-tinted spectacles, and some of it is simply wrong, but that's what they seem to think, and it's apparently difficult to persuade them otherwise.
I really want to see Trump beaten in November and Kamala won't be able to do it. The more people see her the more the dislike her and now she's going to be everywhere as the nominee.
Obama's statement explicitly refers to a process from which a nominee will emerge. He declined to endorse Biden's choice and instead leant his weight towards opening a contest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXrysxb8_m4
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1815111490380427481
Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.
If the party management plan is to ease Harris into the nomination, it's vital that everyone (including Harris) will talk about a competitive process.
There are very many good reasons to think that any such process will end up with exactly one candidate.
Might be one worth listening to this week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm
Just one guess...
What his statement DOES signify, is a signal to major donors - Democratic and Independent - to get on board the Harris Express.
'I commend President Biden for stepping down. His infirmities were evident to any unbiased observer from the beginning. It was this progressive deterioration — and his abandonment of Democratic Party principles — that prompted me to enter the race and ensure American voters had a viable, vigorous alternative to Donald Trump.
Yet the response of the DNC was to try and hide President Biden’s degeneration from the American public and disable democracy to ram him through to his party’s nomination.
Many Americans fear that the same DNC elites are about to rig the nominating process again to get a monumentally unpopular vice president to step into President Biden’s shoes.
I call on the Democratic Party to return to its traditional commitment to democracy and exemplify it with an open process. Instead of anointing a candidate hand-picked by DNC elites, the party should use neutral polling to identify the candidate who can best beat Donald Trump. The delegates should then select a nominee based on this information.
If they had done this to begin with, I would not have had to leave the Democratic Party.'
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1815111490380427481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer#Personal_life
Judging only from that little Wiki info, the two seem to be making a success of their blended famliy.
Joe-Jitsu
https://x.com/TimothyDSnyder/status/1815131049791459425
My feeling is that the Dems want to avoid the impression of a stitch up, but at some point soon, unless one of the big names throws their hat in the ring (which seems fairly unlikely), it become a fact accompli anyway.
https://x.com/jamie_raskin/status/1815117782775951597
Among our people there is an "Asparagus fortune teller"
https://twitter.com/dannyparkinson/status/1815084737519591547?s=61
Dammit, why didn't I think of that earlier?
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'esprit_de_l'escalier )
Just that she looks to lose, fairly narrowly, against Trump.
She’s not the best political performer. Her prosecutorial history is not liked by blacks or the left of the Democrat Party. Her recent attempts to attach herself to more liberal causes have put off more people than she gained.
Essentially, she has the CV for a presidential
candidate. But she doesn’t seem to have the instincts and abilities that make a political star, in the US.
He doesn't have the support to win again. No mythologising will help his potential successor.
And electorally, it shouldn't be Kamela. Newsom stands a chance. She doesn't.
I think she'll win FWIW.
(for all those of you not following, somebody who claims to be able to tell the future by casting asparagusi predicted that a woman would win the election. Before Biden bye-den'd)
But we are where we are and Kamala is 10x better than a far too old Biden.
Another document filed by the previous Biden for President campaign to the FEC notes that Harris is “no longer a candidate” for vice-president and is instead a candidate for president and “will henceforth be conducting campaign activities only in pursuit of that office.”
The move gives Harris, already the frontrunner for the presidency among Democrats, access to the Biden campaign coffers. A campaign filing yesterday showed the campaign has nearly $96 million in cash on hand.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/21/biden-drops-out-presidential-election
If you don't like their recommendations why don't you change the criteria?
Jim Pickard 🐋
@PickardJE
·
3h
and now the questions about age and cognitive faculties will - presumably - be about the other candidate
He is one."
New Harris ad.
But the dice has been rolled and she has a better chance than someone too old to do four more years.
Buttigieg is clearly preparing for a candidacy at the convention, Harris is likely to sack him apparently from the Cabinet if she becomes POTUS and there is no love lost between them.
At the moment the divide looks like 2008, the Clintons and Democrat old guard behind Harris and trying to make her heir apparent, the Obamas and Kennedys want a younger more dynamic candidate like Buttigieg
That dynamic might change, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
You may of course be correct, nonetheless Trump appears to me to be such a flawed candidate anything can happen now Sleepy Joe is out of the picture.
RFK Jr. is giving a press conference in Hyannis Port.
“I would certainly listen to the [Democrat] party elders if they came to me…I’m the only presidential candidate who can beat Donald Trump, and if I were them I would do that and I would certainly listen to their proposals”
https://x.com/VeraMBergen/status/1815138567187779858
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cropper
That would certainly balance the ticket.
Not working class though.
Edit: 2.82 on BF
500/1
Campaigning energetic maniac. Next generation. Helps in TX.
There is definitely a demographic in the US who love the thought of voting for a female president. They were very strongly behind Hillary for that reason. But it wasn’t enough to get her over the line.
NY Times
Through her Jamaican father she is approximately one-fourth black. Calling her black is like me claiming to be Danish because one of my grandmothers was from Denmark.
She's a mixed-race woman, who came out of the scandal-plagued California Democratic Party.
Was she part of those scandals? Judge for yourself: "In November 2014, state and federal agents raided the CPUC 's offices in a joint investigation of potential criminal activities related to the permanent closure and settlements proceedings of SONGS. Kamala Harris. California's attorney gneral at the time. either killed or stalled the investigation. The CPUC refused to turn oversixty or more emails from Governor Brown's office."
source: Michael Shellenberger's "Apocalypse Never", p. 214.