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  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Tories going to need DUP...
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Those 3 Labour gains might have just killed off the overall majority.

    Also still Pudsey et al to come. If they're late, they're close..
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @GPW_Portland: All Labour figures pulling out of broadcasts. Ominous.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Con HOLD Nhants S and Suffolk South - 266 vs 215
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Having slept on it it seems obvious what's happened. The English are fed up with the Scots. Sorry but this is ugly and I find it hard to see how anyone can find it very appealing.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    SNP Gain Berwickshire from LDs
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    SNP get Berwickshire.
  • Grandiose
    Grandiose Posts: 2,323
    Berwickshire goes SNP.

    Drat.

    Just Balls left.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Berwickshire SNP from LD - Tie for Lab and Con in Scotland!!
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    No Berwickshire
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    MEH. We had a golden chance to be the second party in Scotland. :(
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    BRS goes SNP.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015
    SNP gain Berwickshire by 328 votes over Tories.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Con-Lab tie in Scotland cops @ 8/1
  • Luckyguy1983
    Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,089
    Charles said:

    My suggestion for UKIP: elect Nuttal as leader. De-emphasis immigration and Europe and go hell for leather to target Labour's WWC vote in the North/Kent

    Real opportunity to establish your self as one of the major 2 parties.

    I think Suzanne Evans would be better personally. But Nigel really should have stepped back before this GE, brilliant and unfairly maligned as he is.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    But the Pandas win :-(
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Tories going to need DUP...

    There are two UUP MPs to call upon first.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2015
    So there is 1 MP each in Scotland for Libs, Tories and SLAB - hilarious.

    CON HOLD PUDSEY and Warrington S
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Con hold Warrington South, and Pudsey.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Con hold Pudsey.

    You can all thank me now
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited May 2015
    FrankBooth said:

    Having slept on it it seems obvious what's happened. The English are fed up with the Scots. Sorry but this is ugly and I find it hard to see how anyone can find it very appealing.

    Not fed up with Scots, just fed up with the SNP moanathon.
  • JamesM
    JamesM Posts: 221
    edited May 2015
    Well at least we know who the next Secretary of State for Scotland is! Step forward David Mundell
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    SeanT said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Those two Labour gains are not good for the Tory overall majority.

    Might actually be useful for PRIME MINISTER CAMERON. Keeps his MPs disciplined. Reliance on DUP will make him focus on the Union.
    Err... Some of us have bets on it, my man.
  • FluffyThoughts
    FluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    Hmmm,

    I know feck-owl about betting but I did place this:
    28 Jan 12 / 09:31 Single 1 May 2015 UK General Election Result – General Election Result Conservative Majority @ 13/8 – £AB.CD O/********/########/F
    Foresight maybe...?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Shock Tory hold in Warrington South.
  • watford30
    watford30 Posts: 3,474
    TGOHF said:

    Hearing from good source that recount requested by Ed Balls. He's behind by 300. #GE2015

    James Mates ITV tweet.

    Something special from the cellar will be chilled to toast his possible demise, tonight.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Tissue_Price said:

    But the Pandas win :-(

    How much would it cost to hire a gunman to visit Edinburgh Zoo?
  • dyedwoolie
    dyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Berwickshire nailed on Tory gain in 2020!! lmao
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Final Scotland totals:

    SNP 56
    Con 1
    LD 1
    Lab 1
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Paddy Ashdown ranting about the Tories on Sky.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    So close to 2 tories in Scotland. So close.
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    Anyone heard from IOS, Surbiton or the rest of the PBKinnocks ?
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    Scotland really did finish with that perfect 56 - 1 - 1 - 1 .
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    This is key now.

    If DUP won't agree to boundary changes under current Act he'll need new Act of Parliament to go back to 650 seats.

    Absolute knife edge because there could be Con rebels so 327ish not enough - new Act required to GUARANTEE they go through.

    He can't risk Statutory Instrument losing in 2018.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    2010 wasn't a 'proper loss'?

    New Statesman:

    The feeling here in the New Statesman office is that this may end up being good for the left; a "proper loss" might prompt some self-examination. Let's wait and see.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/terrible-night-labour-cameron-cruises-victory-ns-liveblog
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    So Miliband's inner circle all going...they are probably still wondering how the free owls for all policy went so wrong....
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Dair said:

    Scotland really did finish with that perfect 56 - 1 - 1 - 1 .

    Greedy SNP :(
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2015
    I had £570 on this election an barring an amazing LD rally I am looking at £738 profit, £748 if Con take the Borders.

    Bugger, spotted an Edinburgh South bet there, take another £15 quid off my total.
  • corporeal
    corporeal Posts: 2,549
    It's been a rough night.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Oh, it's declared - £738 it is then.
  • malcolmg
    malcolmg Posts: 44,523
    Scott_P said:

    old_labour said:

    Is your MP SNP now?

    The MP for the Scottish seat I used to live in is now SNP, yes.
    Ha Ha Ha poetry
  • Luckyguy1983
    Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,089
    edited May 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @JGForsyth: Senior Ed Miliband aide tells me that it is 'news to them' that they have all resigned

    Not their fault, they were polishing the proverbial.
  • shiney2
    shiney2 Posts: 672
    Watched from a counting table as EdM, Justine & entourage walked out of the count after his speech @ Doncaster.

    Didn't have the heart to say: Good speech David!..

    Their faces said it all. They know it's the end.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    But the Pandas win :-(

    How much would it cost to hire a gunman to visit Edinburgh Zoo?
    Pandas are going on a grand tour of Scotland to view endangered MPs.
  • TOPPING
    TOPPING Posts: 44,060
    Freggles said:

    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?

    1. he used the SNP as bogeymen, not the Scots
    2. to say the SNP characterised the Cons as bogeymen would qualify as understatement of the year.

    it's politics, innit.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    Plato Still a little better than the exit poll was predicting for the unionist parties when the SNP were forecast to take every Scottish seat but 1, nonetheless clearly the SNP's night in Scotland, the Tories in England and Wales
  • old_labour
    old_labour Posts: 3,238
    Nicola is very intelligent, focussed and disciplined.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Tories now 5% clear in the national vote share...Those pollsters who were on BBC and Sky still claiming that they still got the national vote share right are looking even more stupid.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2015
    Con Hold Reading West, Somerset North, Plymouth Sutton, Sittingbourne & Sheppey and Leicestershire S 273 vs 215
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    DavidL said:

    So close to 2 tories in Scotland. So close.

    So close to Tories having twice as many Scottish seats as Labour.....
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    TOPPING said:

    Freggles said:

    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?

    1. he used the SNP as bogeymen, not the Scots
    2. to say the SNP characterised the Cons as bogeymen would qualify as understatement of the year.

    it's politics, innit.
    And now there will be real consequences
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Ashdown had half a point about the LDs doing what the country needed them to do 5 years ago; they did it well, and have suffered at the ballot box for it.

    He then blew it by blaming the Tories for everything and calling them scumbags.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    SNP have won 50% of the vote in Scotland.
  • malcolmg
    malcolmg Posts: 44,523
    foxinsoxuk said:

    old_labour said:

    The SNP DID NOT win the election for the Tories.

    Speedy said:

    OK UKIP have only 1 seat.

    So in conclusion.
    All pollsters disastrously wrong, LD finished , UKIP going backwards, Tory majority.
    The SNP won the election for the Tories.

    Cameron will have to now govern alone without allies and plenty of moaning over compromises with the SNP and Europe and a tough economy to come.
    Sound like Major in 1992 alright.

    Good morning.

    I think they did. SNP MPs may now be powerless on the opposition benches and tire fairly quickly of turning up, particularly if EVFEL passed, and how can it not now?
    Dream on , with a wafer thin majority I think they will do very well. Certainly better than the previous Labour donkeys. Will be interesting to see old red face having to work for his money.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015
    Still no news from Bedford...or Waveney...
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tory vote goes up by 8% in Pudsey:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000886
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    AndyJS said:

    SNP gain Berwickshire by 328 votes over Tories.

    Just think how many Tories voted Lib Dem for tactical reasons/
  • trublue
    trublue Posts: 103
    Majority still looks too close to call for betting purposes with the speaker rule on Betfair. I wonder how many punters are getting suckered in using TV projections that include the speaker.
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    TOPPING said:

    Freggles said:

    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?

    1. he used the SNP as bogeymen, not the Scots
    2. to say the SNP characterised the Cons as bogeymen would qualify as understatement of the year.

    it's politics, innit.
    Looking at how the SNP have swept the board, the SNP represent a large part of Scotland's vote. Which in effect means Cameron has demonised a large part of Scotland over this campaign. I sincerely doubt Cameron will bring the UK together - it's more divided than it's ever been before.
  • rural_voter
    rural_voter Posts: 2,038
    When is Paddy Ashdown going to eat his hat?
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    IT was very close - it would've been so sweet to have 2 MPs in Scotland and go NaNaNa to Slab. Still one each is still hilarious karma.
    HYUFD said:

    Plato Still a little better than the exit poll was predicting for the unionist parties when the SNP were forecast to take every Scottish seat but 1, nonetheless clearly the SNP's night in Scotland, the Tories in England and Wales

  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    edited May 2015
    Third recount at Derby North.

    Luckyguy1983 - Evans is too smarmy.

  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    So last month's ICM wins the pollsters' prize? :p
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Malc

    Congrats to the Nats!

    Ein Reich
    Ein Volk
    Irn Bru
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    AndyJS said:

    SNP have won 50% of the vote in Scotland.

    ARSE deniers vindicated.
  • MarkHopkins
    MarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    How many hats have been eaten?

  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    Sandpit said:

    So last month's ICM wins the pollsters' prize? :p

    No. No pollster can possibly possibly even pretend for one second that this is anything other than an unmitigated disaster.
  • Monksfield
    Monksfield Posts: 2,905
    Terrible night. Not because the Tories won but because we are now into the end game for the UK.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tories win Weaver Vale by 806 votes compared to 991 last time:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14001024
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Purseybear said:

    Sandpit said:

    So last month's ICM wins the pollsters' prize? :p

    No. No pollster can possibly possibly even pretend for one second that this is anything other than an unmitigated disaster.
    And we mustn't forget how right PB Tories were (because they always learn, obviously)... :D:D
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    AndyJS said:

    Tory vote goes up by 8% in Pudsey:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000886

    Nice canvassing TSE.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Caroline Lucas up now in Pavillion
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    edited May 2015
    trublue said:

    Majority still looks too close to call for betting purposes with the speaker rule on Betfair. I wonder how many punters are getting suckered in using TV projections that include the speaker.

    Might still be OK.

    Con + 20 = 327 with Speaker, 326 without.

    So OK IF NO MORE LOSSES.

    Plus possibility of more gains!
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tories hold Plymouth Sutton & Devonport by 523 votes:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000880
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    So who has won the election? JackW!

    Polling disaster. Millions spent and all the pollsters badly, badly underperform the ARSE of a very very old man. A very cool old man.
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited May 2015
    Results so far: - Tory 278 – LAB 216 – SNP 56 – LD 8 - UKiP 1.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    old_labour said:

    Nicola is very intelligent, focussed and disciplined.

    I don't doubt she's done significantly better than Salmond would have done. Salmond was always limited by his small c conservative North East roots. Glasgow Nicola had no qualms about driving her tanks straight onto Labour's lawn.....
  • corporeal
    corporeal Posts: 2,549
    HYUFD said:

    Plato Still a little better than the exit poll was predicting for the unionist parties when the SNP were forecast to take every Scottish seat but 1, nonetheless clearly the SNP's night in Scotland, the Tories in England and Wales

    Tories gained 3 seats in Wales, but Labour still have 25 seats to their 11. So not exactly their night in Wales overall.
  • TOPPING
    TOPPING Posts: 44,060
    The_Apocalypse said:

    TOPPING said:

    Freggles said:

    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?

    1. he used the SNP as bogeymen, not the Scots
    2. to say the SNP characterised the Cons as bogeymen would qualify as understatement of the year.

    it's politics, innit.
    Looking at how the SNP have swept the board, the SNP represent a large part of Scotland's vote. Which in effect means Cameron has demonised a large part of Scotland over this campaign. I sincerely doubt Cameron will bring the UK together - it's more divided than it's ever been before.
    It has exacerbated existing indy divisions of course but it has allowed unionists to vote SNP in the knowledge that the union is not at stake.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Of the 29 seats I've polled in Scotland, the leading party in my snapshot won the seat in 25. Average error on parties’ vote shares was 3.3% @LordAshcroft
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    Really pleased for Caroline Lucas. Lot of time for her.
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    Greens flatlining.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    edited May 2015
    So as many Green MPs as UKIP ;-)

    (if the rumours in Thanet South are right.)
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    edited May 2015
    Huge majority for Caroline Lucas.

    Nearly 8000.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Con hold Pudsey.

    You can all thank me now

    The nation thanks you.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Massive increase in Lucas's majority in Pavilion.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    damn, I was on the tories to come 2nd @ 19/1 in brighton pavillion.

    another value loser!
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    SNP finish just short of 50% on 1,454,436 vs 1,456,029 for the rest. According to the figures on the BBC.
  • dyedwoolie
    dyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    looks like the lowest swing in Scotland was Moray where SNP got a 2.5% or so swing from Con to hold.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    I have eight key Con-Lab marginals still to come in:

    Lancaster, Waveney, Plymouth Sutton, Bedford, Keighley, Warwick & Leamington, Norwich North, and Crewe & Nantwich.

    Several of those could go either way.
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    One that I think was lost earlier.
    Portsmouth South - Con gain from LD.
    Mike Hancock loses his deposit as an indy but gains his 30k redundancy payment.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/constituencies/E14000884
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Monksfield said:

    Terrible night. Not because the Tories won but because we are now into the end game for the UK.

    Yep. I wonder how Labour and the Lib Dems will now react. Will they abandon Scotland. I wouldn't be surprised if they support the Tories on EV4EL now.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    Wow, I wake up to a Tory majority!

    Southam Observer completely vindicated!
  • Concanvasser
    Concanvasser Posts: 190
    Great results in Portsmouth for the blue army. Taken the Council too.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Casino_Royale said:

    I have eight key Con-Lab marginals still to come in:

    Lancaster, Waveney, Plymouth Sutton, Bedford, Keighley, Warwick & Leamington, Norwich North, and Crewe & Nantwich.

    Several of those could go either way.

    Plymouth is a Con hold...
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    edited May 2015
    Casino_Royale said:

    I have eight key Con-Lab marginals still to come in:

    Lancaster, Waveney, Plymouth Sutton, Bedford, Keighley, Warwick & Leamington, Norwich North, and Crewe & Nantwich.

    Several of those could go either way.

    And Morley and Outwood :) Haha

    Or have you already factored it in?
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    Berwick must be nailed on Tory gain now. Lazy buggers in Northumberland not started counting yet.
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    TOPPING said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    TOPPING said:

    Freggles said:

    Cameron really said he would bring the UK together after 6 weeks of using the Scots as bogeymen?

    1. he used the SNP as bogeymen, not the Scots
    2. to say the SNP characterised the Cons as bogeymen would qualify as understatement of the year.

    it's politics, innit.
    Looking at how the SNP have swept the board, the SNP represent a large part of Scotland's vote. Which in effect means Cameron has demonised a large part of Scotland over this campaign. I sincerely doubt Cameron will bring the UK together - it's more divided than it's ever been before.
    It has exacerbated existing indy divisions of course but it has allowed unionists to vote SNP in the knowledge that the union is not at stake.
    I would say the union is pretty much at stake. Many better hope the SNP don't win a majority at Holyrood in 2016....
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    I thought Plymouth Sutton was a Con Hold?
    Casino_Royale said:

    I have eight key Con-Lab marginals still to come in:

    Lancaster, Waveney, Plymouth Sutton, Bedford, Keighley, Warwick & Leamington, Norwich North, and Crewe & Nantwich.

    Several of those could go either way.

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