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Have the Panda v. Tory bets been settled already?0
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Chameleon85 Morley due at 4.30am may be longer if a recount0
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Ok going to try and grab another hours sleep.0
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He certainly sounded a worried man on Sky News. I think there's a very real chance he's toast.Floater said:
s it me or does Balls look rattled?Scott_P said:@WikiGuido: Tories pushing Ed Balls out rumour. Surely not...
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Okay calm down. Labour have done badly, but they'll be back. People though the Tories would never win again in 1997.SeanT said:It is now possible to envisage the entire extinction of Labour, outside London.
Already dead in Scotland, UKIP harrying them in northern England, PC posed in Wales.
This is how a great party dies, by electing a quasi-Marxist North London dickhead as leader, then building an Obelisk.0 -
Last GE, Sky were fast on everything, BBC minutes behind. Not mention unpolluted by Guardianista group-think.0
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loving behind the scene at Sky News coverage on SKY Arts 10
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Ed B, looking very rattled Sufi g his sky interview. Hopefully he knows something we, yet, don't.0
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Just for a bit of fun, Con to Lab swings at by-elections since 2010:
Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · now
Just for comparison, #Conservatives to #Labour swings at by-elections since 2010. Average = 7.7%
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/596440081554014209
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Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?
Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.0 -
Well, we still haven't won since thenThe_Apocalypse said:
Okay calm down. Labour have done badly, but they'll be back. People though the Tories would never win again in 1997.SeanT said:It is now possible to envisage the entire extinction of Labour, outside London.
Already dead in Scotland, UKIP harrying them in northern England, PC posed in Wales.
This is how a great party dies, by electing a quasi-Marxist North London dickhead as leader, then building an Obelisk.0 -
Not many comments on the Exit Poll giving Plaid 4 seats so far. They could get 5 with the current Lib Dem and Labour destruction.0
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Two dreadful results for Labour. Flatlining.0
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Predicted that Andrew George gone in St Ives - at this rate Paddy will be eating his hat0
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odd - yesterday I was reading on here how it was impossible cons to be largest party inc OGH making very firm statements to that effect - where have all those people gone?0
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Mind you, if the exit poll is right, tomorrow must be Martin Day.0
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Yes - I think something that's being missed in this is that, even on the basis of the exit poll, although the Tories would be the "winners", it would still be very hard for the Tories to get things through parliament. A new election would beckon, unless the Tories can get a few more seats than the exit.FrancisUrquhart said:Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?
Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.0 -
Never going to be anything notable in Sunderland, if they were not the first to declare they would get but a passing mention. The Mackem mp wants change in Sunderland, I suggest voting somebody else other than Labour election after election might help in that aim.Artist said:If we hadn't had the exit poll, there wouldn't have been anything notable about the first two results.
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Ashen faced Labour monitors in Motherwell count.0
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To echo an ex member of PB. Socialists never learn.
For almost 5 years Labour have known that they had a duff Leader. Yet they sat back and ignored the problem and never did anything about it. Will they learn?0 -
This election has seen a return to two party politics if the exit poll is right. Forget Scotland, that now has one party politics and is the same as Northern Ireland and its own little bubble.
England and Wales has 573 MPs. Tory and Labour would have 555 between them (97% of the seats and just 18 others).0 -
Labour fast becoming obsolete.0
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Those who were questioning where Cameron was campaigning in the last few days may have to acknowledge he knew what he was doing...0
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Yes, a party of the liberal metropolitan elite that betrayed their working men's vote to unlimited immigration. How wonderful to watch it collapse into itself piece by piece, region by region.SeanT said:It is now possible to envisage the entire extinction of Labour, outside London.
Already dead in Scotland, UKIP harrying them in northern England, PC posed in Wales.
This is how a great party dies, by electing a quasi-Marxist North London dickhead as leader, then building an Obelisk.0 -
Exactly.TheScreamingEagles said:
Don't be to downbeat, most of us Tories have doubts about this poll.murali_s said:Terrible exit poll for Labour and a superb one for the Tories.
I'm a little devastated obviously but if this mirrors the actual results then congrats to all the Tories on here.
Not that I'm not enjoying the moment but am braced for an it's all gone horribly wrong moment.
That said I really do think Natalie is a plonker. "Centre of British politics" on 2 seats (perhaps).0 -
They need to be a bit more like PB Tories. They are always right, and always learn.TCPoliticalBetting said:To echo an ex member of PB. Socialists never learn.
For almost 5 years Labour have known that they had a duff Leader. Yet they sat back and ignored the problem and never did anything about it. Will they learn?
A pity.0 -
I have a fair bit on over 200 lost deposits for LD.Eh_ehm_a_eh said:LD lost deposit count 2
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The exit poll is gold standard, relatively speaking. It has the new political landscape to contend with, but its nuts and bolts methodology is as it always has been: face-to-face, and entirely unaffected by technological changes. I'd trust it every time over the polling companies.FattyBolger said:Agree with RodCrosby. Tories must not be hubristic. Too early, too early for that.
Fair play to lefties who are fronting up at the moment.
I still fear a disateously inaccurate exit poll seats outcome0 -
Well that's true - but I thought that mentioning it would be a bit much from a sympathiser of party who are predicted to get 239!RobD said:
Well, we still haven't won since thenThe_Apocalypse said:
Okay calm down. Labour have done badly, but they'll be back. People though the Tories would never win again in 1997.SeanT said:It is now possible to envisage the entire extinction of Labour, outside London.
Already dead in Scotland, UKIP harrying them in northern England, PC posed in Wales.
This is how a great party dies, by electing a quasi-Marxist North London dickhead as leader, then building an Obelisk.0 -
LOLMorris_Dancer said:
Mind you, if the exit poll is right, tomorrow must be Martin Day.
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Like.Morris_Dancer said:Mind you, if the exit poll is right, tomorrow must be Martin Day.
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I think that's entirely possible. Good LD candidate restricted LD->Lab switching and may have handed it to the Cons.Ave_it said:0 -
To be honest, if they lose tonight, Labour will get new leadership and probably more energy and drive. I've always felt that they weren't overkeen on returning to government this time. I'd think they'd probably be in a good position for 2020 if we went the whole parliament.The_Apocalypse said:
Okay calm down. Labour have done badly, but they'll be back. People though the Tories would never win again in 1997.SeanT said:It is now possible to envisage the entire extinction of Labour, outside London.
Already dead in Scotland, UKIP harrying them in northern England, PC posed in Wales.
This is how a great party dies, by electing a quasi-Marxist North London dickhead as leader, then building an Obelisk.0 -
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Not Hampstead, but Southampton Itchen may be interesting.Ave_it said:0 -
HAHA taxi for Nick Clegg - whatever happened to him?Morris_Dancer said:Mind you, if the exit poll is right, tomorrow must be Martin Day.
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Come on LibDems. Don't get less than 11...0
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Think that is absolutely safe - could be nearer 500foxinsoxuk said:
I have a fair bit on over 200 lost deposits for LD.Eh_ehm_a_eh said:LD lost deposit count 2
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This is massively silly speculation at this stage, but if Labour did lose, and lose badly, would Ed have to step down as leader? And if he did, would he also think: "sod this!" and resign his seat, especially if pushed from the leadership?SeanT said:
I have doubts, but I am now fairly sure Cameron will be PM again, and Ed Miliband will be gone.TheScreamingEagles said:
Don't be to downbeat, most of us Tories have doubts about this poll.murali_s said:Terrible exit poll for Labour and a superb one for the Tories.
I'm a little devastated obviously but if this mirrors the actual results then congrats to all the Tories on here.
Although it would be more fun if Labour lost heavily and Ed stayed on ...0 -
Curtice said exit poll predicts Lab does well in N/E?RodCrosby said:
Labour have had two excellent results in Sunderland, compared to 2010.GIN1138 said:
Something's wrong.
These little seats in the N/E are always a bit different. I remember in 2010 the Lab/Con swing was huge and for about a couple of hours everyone thought the Tories might just get a majority...
In 2015 Sunderland pointed to Tony losing his majority, etc...
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Bets that are looking good:
£45 @ 7-2 Dave to see out the year
Bets that are looking less good:
Balls Chancellor:
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Robinson quoting Labour source: "Farage could come third."0
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Mr. Twelve, they'll have a new leader, but it could be a case of one bad leader following another if Chuka Umunna gets it.0
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I have £2 on that. That was the maximum I was allowed...foxinsoxuk said:
I have a fair bit on over 200 lost deposits for LD.Eh_ehm_a_eh said:LD lost deposit count 2
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LMAO at the misplaced triumphalism. The main reason for this disaster is Labour being wiped out by a party on their LEFT in Scotland.JonathanD said:Brilliant
John Rentoul @JohnRentoul 2m2 minutes ago
Neil Kinnock has got his party back now.0 -
BBC coverage so far fairly dire.0
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Even on the exact exit poll numbers Cameron could only be a couple of lost by-elections from losing a vote of confidence even with the support of the DUP.FrancisUrquhart said:Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?
Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.
The BBC haven't said whether they are giving the Greens Bristol West or Norwich South.0 -
That's because Tories are too busy celebrating and thinking Labour will never be the largest party in a parliament ever again. I understand being happy; what I don't understand is why you'd assume based on tonight's results the Tories will govern the UK forever. A tad hyperbolic from many on here.Danny565 said:
Yes - I think something that's being missed in this is that, even on the basis of the exit poll, although the Tories would be the "winners", it would still be very hard for the Tories to get things through parliament. A new election would beckon, unless the Tories can get a few more seats than the exit.FrancisUrquhart said:Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?
Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.0 -
I have long held that UKIP will finish on about 12% of the total vote and will do very well indeed to get 6 seats. Their vote may well be very good in safe seats like Sunderland but I expect it to be nowhere near as strong in Con/Lab marginals.Dair said:Another huge UKIP in Sunderland Central.
I think the Tories are getting ahead of themselves and 15 UKIP is actually possible.
Green beat Lib Dem again.0 -
If the exit poll is right then this could blow apart the political polling industry completely, but not necessarily because they 'got it wrong'. It is perfectly possible that the vote shares will be pretty much in line with the polls, but UNS is even more of a disaster than expected.0
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BBC failing to show another result...0
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Brilliant.Morris_Dancer said:Mind you, if the exit poll is right, tomorrow must be Martin Day.
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Cheer up bud, the way the polls have been going, this may be another load of bollocks and your guys storm it.murali_s said:Terrible exit poll for Labour and a superb one for the Tories.
I'm a little devastated obviously but if this mirrors the actual results then congrats to all the Tories on here.
P.S. fair play to you showing your face at this stage of the game.0 -
No, no good, I can't sleep0
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Hampstead & Kilburn & I bl**dy well hope so.Ave_it said:0 -
Not counting any chickens, but if this goes as the exit polls predicts, perhaps PBTories could be renamed PBRighties?0
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Double it.foxinsoxuk said:
I have a fair bit on over 200 lost deposits for LD.Eh_ehm_a_eh said:LD lost deposit count 2
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Boom0
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Labour vote up just 863 in Washington & Sunderland West.0
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Could CARMICHAEL be in trouble ?
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#NorthEastIndependenceNow0
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Lab only up 8000
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Maybe the makeup of the UKIP vote is totally misunderstood? Despite all the thought that the Tories needed to get them sub 10%, maybe actually a much bigger % of their vote is disgruntled Labour than previously thought (especially in the likes of the North East).HurstLlama said:
I have long held that UKIP will finish on about 12% of the total vote and will do very well indeed to get 6 seats. Their vote may well be very good in safe seats like Sunderland but I expect it to be nowhere near as strong in Con/Lab marginals.Dair said:Another huge UKIP in Sunderland Central.
I think the Tories are getting ahead of themselves and 15 UKIP is actually possible.
Green beat Lib Dem again.0 -
Just 800 added votes for Labour in Sunderland W since 20100
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good night for kips0
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So at least Labour get some unique talent from the first three MPs elected. A hint of the old SLAB group of muppets?0
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Well, yeah, if we're only holding 10, I wouldn't expect HG to be one of them.Danny565 said:Tories projected to GAIN HAZEL GROVE - BBC
Told you guys weeks ago you should get on it0 -
Washington & Sunderland W, Con to Lab swing = only 2.5%0
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Swing only 2.5%0
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If +863 is the best it gets for Labour...0
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Apparently the PM was "pleased" with the exit poll.
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They said that in the 80s when Michael Foot was leader, it wasn't true then, it isn't true now.KentRising said:Labour fast becoming obsolete.
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UKIP's in second in Sunderland West, up 16%.
Surely Farage will win in South Thanet...0 -
We did less well in Sunderland W last time thus the lower swingback this time!
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Watch those Green scores!!!
How many seats will they cost Labour?0 -
Swings
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Hartlepool Labour may be in trouble on these results...0
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Labour +2.4%.0
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Balls deep in trouble0
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3rd Sunderland swing to Labour 2.5, UKIP second up 16.0
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Mr. Me, worth considering Yorkshire in three parts. North is very Conservative, South is very Labour [with the notable exception of Sheffield Hallam] and West Yorkshire is crammed with marginals, many red-blue.0
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All over for balls 1/4 loses his seat DYOR0