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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    Who is the next UKIP leader?

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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    So this time tomorrow could Cameron (and Nicola) be the only leaders still standing? Clegg Miliband and Farage all gone?
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 24,048

    Thrasher on Sky saying possible Tory gains in the Midlands.

    Ahem ...

    LOL

    every dog has his day ! If this result is right Romney is history :-)
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    BBC Scotland reporting from Edinburgh sounds good for SNP. Linlithgow SNP. Midlothian SNP.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Ed Davey clinging to the YouGov
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,734
    Oh no. Jeremy Vine in the Matrix. The worst bit of election nights.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    paulyork said:

    Can ukip get over 2 seats even without farage. I think they can.

    Clacton, obv.

    I'd reckon they'll also get Thurrock and Castle Point
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713

    A 1,000 comments in less than two hours.

    It's holding up well
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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    Gove said straight away that he believed the exit poll. As Chief Whip, his info should be as good as the best.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @rowenamason: David Blunkett on ITV saying he fears the exit polls are correct... not the central party line

    @alstewitn: #GE2015 David Blunkett pretty well concedes on @itvnews but knows how the numbers work. Good man, & numerate.
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    macisbackmacisback Posts: 382
    currystar said:

    Saltire said:

    The exit poll is predicting about 20 Labour gains assuming 40 losses in Scotland. Considering that they are probably going to get atleast 10 Liberal ones that does not leave many from the Tories at all.
    Will Nick Palmer be one of the few gains??

    I really hope not. His complacency was pretty sad
    Clearly false bravado, if he was so confident he would need to have said very little.
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    FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    You can hear the laughter from New York in Doncaster....
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,165

    A 1,000 comments in less than two hours.

    Were 500 of those in response to the exit poll? :D
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    "David Cameron's ability to hold on in Downing Street is on a knife-edge," Labour's Ed Balls says

    Comment of the night, so far?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015
    Tory gains according to BBC:

    Lewes
    Thornbury
    Gedling
    Kingston
    Southport
    Derby North
    Derbyshire NE
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    JGCJGC Posts: 64
    It seems we need to wait for the Nuneaton result to gauge if the exit poll is anywhere near correct. If what Thrasher is saying is correct then Labour will struggle to win this, if they do win in line with projected national swing then the rest of the polling industry can breath a bit easier and perhaps the thing aint over
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    BBC project Labour gain Cambridge narrowly.
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Bernard Ponsonby to Willie Rennie while joking about it still being evening not quite morning "you might not want to wake up in the morning to face this".
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Tim_B said:

    They keep talking about a majority being 326. How many Sinn Fein MPs are there, and do they still not turn up?

    Speaker and the deputies traditionally don't vote?? I have forgotten my BC.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,165
    SeanT said:

    Somewhere in the UK, probably in London, there is a man or woman staring *pensively* at the Labour Party's Limestone Policy Obelisk

    I can't wait to see the 'sightings of the EdStone' reported in the papers in the coming days. LOL
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulhutcheon: Rumours that David Mundell, the sole Tory MP in Scotland, is toast #GE2015
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 24,048
    BBC predicting Nuneaton Blue
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,099
    What do we think about vote percentages? If Ukip overperform and SNP get 58 MPs I can just hear the anger.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015
    Tory gain Gedling and Derbyshire NE projected.
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    Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807
    Did wonder why Dave was in Lancaster and Fleetwood last thing yesterday afternoon... did they really have an inkling?
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    PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Exit polls says places like Nuneaton, Ipswich and Ealing staying blue.
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    NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    The bile and venom coming from blunket and Balls is hilarious.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    Danny565 said:

    BBC project Labour gain Cambridge narrowly.

    Would be very sad
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    FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    edited May 2015
    TOPPING said:

    The reality is that in the N-E so far it has been overwhelmingly Lab (forget the swings, they have huge majorities).

    Which means that whole economic communities are not feeling the recovery, such as it is, and perhaps feel left out of economic progress that has been made for the past generation and more.

    That is something that any new govt needs to address.

    Labour have picked up a couple of hundred votes in their strongest area. Get real. Going backwards.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    Where exactly are the LDs 10 seats, then?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @KateEMcCann: Oh dear, someone has already set up @LibDemDeposits to tally up how much cash Nick Clegg's party has lost. (£1,500 so far)
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    What a dick Davey is.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like an early night.

    JackW looks amazingly accurate at this stage.

    Balls talking Balls if Con have 20 or more seats than Lab IMO

    Oi!

    I was much more accurate: lower on LDs than JackW, higher on the Cons
    Lets us see if the RCS hare outpaces my tortoise ARSE .... :smile:

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    JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    Bedford staying blue according to BBC...
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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    McCluskey will hang the EdStone around someone's neck in the morning.
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    Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    LD lost deposit count, ah feck it i'm not going to count all 450.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015
    Tory holds according to BBC:

    Brighton Kemptown
    Colne Valley
    Hove
    Enfield North
    Croydon Central
    Ipswich
    Nuneaton
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    OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    BBC giving Gedling to the Tories! I tipped that as a possible Tory gain from Labour...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121

    A 1,000 comments in less than two hours.

    It's holding up well
    Kudos to Robert and Mike for that.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Lewes?! YEAH
    AndyJS said:

    Tory gains according to BBC:

    Lewes
    Thornbury
    Gedling
    Kingston
    Southport
    Derby North
    Derbyshire NE

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    midwintermidwinter Posts: 1,112
    Libs think Lewes is in trouble.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,165
    Scott_P said:

    @paulhutcheon: Rumours that David Mundell, the sole Tory MP in Scotland, is toast #GE2015

    :( RIP
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Oh no. Jeremy Vine in the Matrix. The worst bit of election nights.

    I think the worst is the Sophie Rayworth map and the impending vox pop.

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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Scott_P said:

    @paulhutcheon: Rumours that David Mundell, the sole Tory MP in Scotland, is toast #GE2015

    Perhaps not the greatest surprise of the night, to be honest.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015
    Labour projected to gain Thurrock and Pudsey.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,885
    Labour win Cambridge?
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    SeanT said:

    Somewhere in the UK, probably in London, there is a man or woman staring *pensively* at the Labour Party's Limestone Policy Obelisk

    Stone Me!
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    macisbackmacisback Posts: 382
    Prodicus said:

    To echo an ex member of PB. Socialists never learn.
    For almost 5 years Labour have known that they had a duff Leader. Yet they sat back and ignored the problem and never did anything about it. Will they learn?

    Yes, they will. Have.

    Their dear leader was bought and paid for by their Paymaster, Unite (against the will of MPs and the constituencies). They could not defenestrate Ed without offending Len McCluskey and thus bankrupting the party. After this, McCluskey will install someone electable. The MPs and constituencies will insist on it. Ed is toast.
    If they choose Burnham next time Labour will do worse, McCluskey should learn his lesson and let the more qualified set the agenda.
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    Is it just me or is the BBC results map not as good as 2010? Why is it made so you have to click onto a different page to view constituency details?
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Good speach by Ed Davey on Sky - putting on a brave face, bless him...
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Danny565 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Danny565 Labour and the SNP combined are still behind the Tories so that is not strictly correct

    Sure, there's no chance at all Labour would get into govt on these figures. But they might still be able to unite to vote against the Tories (hence new election).
    If the SNP have 58 seats then there's no way they would want another election. They'd have to find some way to back track on their "anti-Tory" rhetoric. Probably some sort of deal for extra powers (which the Tories would probably be quite happy to give them if it cost Scotland money).

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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour gains according to BBC:

    Wolv' SW
    Warwicks N
    Hendon
    Cambridge
    Cardiff North
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    PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Didn't someone put £50k on Labour largest this morning? OUCH!

    Also Mr S was on for 23 seats or less between Con and Lab? OUCH.
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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    Danny565 said:

    BBC project Labour gain Cambridge narrowly.

    I would soooo love that to be wrong. For so many reasons.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited May 2015
    Was Nick Clegg a Tory plant in the Lib Dem party to destroy it ?
    I hope Clegg, Alexander, Laws lose. Its difficult to think who these 10 are.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,356
    edited May 2015
    Per BBC website:

    2015 electorate: 46.425m

    2010 electorate: 45.608m

    Up 1.8%

    Per me: I think it is up less than population.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    edited May 2015
    Really, really, honestly don't see Labour winning Soton Itchen. It is a southern seat, and Labour are simply done down here. No tellers today. Have seen only 2 posters in 2 constituencies down here.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015
    The exit poll is predicting that Labour will win Thurrock.
    So what is the second UKIP seat?
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,076
    Mr. England, ha, was thinking something similar.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,165

    Is it just me or is the BBC results map not as good as 2010? Why is it made so you have to click onto a different page to view constituency details?

    plus it doesn't autorefresh. GRR
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Danny565 said:

    Labour projected to gain Thurrock and Pudsey.

    UKIP significantly ahead of Exit Poll currently.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,071
    AndyJS said:

    Labour gains according to BBC:

    Wolv' SW
    Warwicks N
    Hendon
    Cambridge
    Cardiff North

    Was Thurrock there too ?

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    Speedy said:

    The exit poll is predicting that Labour will win Thurrock.
    So what is the second UKIP seat?

    Castle Point
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 24,048
    AndyJS said:

    Labour gains according to BBC:

    Wolv' SW
    Warwicks N
    Hendon
    Cambridge
    Cardiff North

    couldn't see Broxtowe didyou ?
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    FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    If the exit poll is correct it's a shockingly good yet pyrrhic victory for Cameron.

    He won't want to form a government with a tiny majority. His hope of governing with the Lib Dems will be dashed (they'll surely shun it anyway) and he will be facing a difficult Major'esque few years as PM.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCAllegra: Watching list of poss Tory gains: Mary MacLeoud hangs on! Senior Tory strategist told me they'd get Norman Baker Lewes. I laughed. Silly me?
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Dair said:

    Danny565 said:

    Labour projected to gain Thurrock and Pudsey.

    UKIP significantly ahead of Exit Poll currently.
    Yes, I think given the understatement of UKIP in the exit, they're probably faves in Thurrock.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Ishmael_X said:

    Danny565 said:

    Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?

    Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.

    Yes - I think something that's being missed in this is that, even on the basis of the exit poll, although the Tories would be the "winners", it would still be very hard for the Tories to get things through parliament. A new election would beckon, unless the Tories can get a few more seats than the exit.
    That's because Tories are too busy celebrating and thinking Labour will never be the largest party in a parliament ever again. I understand being happy; what I don't understand is why you'd assume based on tonight's results the Tories will govern the UK forever. A tad hyperbolic from many on here.
    No one is making any such assumption.

    PS If you'd like me to talk you through the Sheffield Effect and the EdStone again I'm here all night.
    You really think the Conservatives being ahead by 77 is due to EdStone? Really? It's probably the SNP effect combined with Miliband's approval ratings, and people have little confidence in Labour's competence.

    And some are making such assumptions, claiming Labour are becoming 'obsolete', and that Labour will become 'extinct' outside of London, and are collapsing 'piece by piece, region by region'.
    the SNP effect = ed is crap (losing 59 seats in one go doesn't for some reason "not count" because they are Scottish seats)

    Miliband's approval ratings = ed is crap

    the Sheffield Effect = the electorate suddenly takes on board at a specific moment in the fortnight before the election that the LOTO is too crap to govern.

    And if Labour collapses it will be replaced by something else, so it won't be tories for ever.
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    corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    A 1,000 comments in less than two hours.

    Is there something big on?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulhutcheon: This is big. I understand Tom Greatrex, who has the second safest @scottishlabour seat, is looking vulnerable #GE2015
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    Dair said:

    Danny565 said:

    Labour projected to gain Thurrock and Pudsey.

    UKIP significantly ahead of Exit Poll currently.
    Although can't believe any of the Sunderland seats were actually exit polled
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    Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237

    What do we think about vote percentages? If Ukip overperform and SNP get 58 MPs I can just hear the anger.

    Or if the majority of Scots have voted for Unionist candidates and end up with 1 seat.

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    SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    So the Libdems 10 does not include Cambridge, Lewes and Thornbury. Only slightly more incumbency needed to be found for the 11-20 bet to be safe
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,356
    Why does BBC map not give result for individual seat when you click on it (like it did in 2010).
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    AndyJS said:

    Labour gains according to BBC:

    Wolv' SW
    Warwicks N
    Hendon
    Cambridge
    Cardiff North

    couldn't see Broxtowe didyou ?
    didn't see it on either the Tory or Labour list. Maybe it's one of the UKIP seats :D
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Wonderful expression, "government of the losers"
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,165
    corporeal said:

    A 1,000 comments in less than two hours.

    Is there something big on?
    It's the buildup thread to TSE's big AV thread due to be published soon :D
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    RogerRoger Posts: 19,133
    Who'd have thought ARSE would be the new Gold Standard!
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,485
    Saltire said:

    So the Libdems 10 does not include Cambridge, Lewes and Thornbury. Only slightly more incumbency needed to be found for the 11-20 bet to be safe

    please please please please...
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    RobD said:

    Is it just me or is the BBC results map not as good as 2010? Why is it made so you have to click onto a different page to view constituency details?

    plus it doesn't autorefresh. GRR
    And you can't click on the Sky map at all!
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Artist said:

    Labour win Cambridge?

    Cons 2nd ? ;)
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    MikeL said:

    Per BBC website:

    2015 electorate: 46.425m

    2010 electorate: 45.608m

    Up 1.8%

    Per me: I think it is up less than population.

    Far fewer people registered in two places under individual registration.
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Huge smiles on SNP at Motherwell count.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    If Labour have lost on this scale, it is because Labour didn't give its potential supporters enough of a reason to go out and vote for them.

    But what a stunning exit poll.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,963
    I silly straw in the wind..

    Mrs Urquhart, somebody who fits exactly the demographic Miliband was trying to woo and agrees with many of the problems he identified and was going to vote Labour.

    She informed me earlier in the end she couldn't do it...her description was "In the end, I wouldn't trust him to open a packet of crisps"...I said, but you might get Cameron then and she said so be it.

    I honestly shocked at the time, but maybe there has been a hell of a lot more "Mrs Urquhart"'s up and down the country..
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    PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Brilliant at last by Peter Kellner: the tories wouldn't need 326. 316 would be fine to govern alone.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Extreme caution required on the low LibDem seat numbers.

    Exit poll based on LibDems losing Cambridge, Lewes and Thornbury & Yate .... Hhhmmm
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    volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Whatever else is happening those of us who are on the Lost Deposits to lose many.many deposits are sitting pretty.Maybe over 500?
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    RodCrosby said:

    Average 4% swing to Labour in Sunderland's 3 seats...

    Turnout almost exactly 2010 figures.

    Any Geordies, Mackems or Foggies care to comment? Was the Scottish question particularly strong in the NE? Did the kippers pledge to end Barnett go down particularly well there?
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    Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    macisback said:

    Prodicus said:

    To echo an ex member of PB. Socialists never learn.
    For almost 5 years Labour have known that they had a duff Leader. Yet they sat back and ignored the problem and never did anything about it. Will they learn?

    Yes, they will. Have.

    Their dear leader was bought and paid for by their Paymaster, Unite (against the will of MPs and the constituencies). They could not defenestrate Ed without offending Len McCluskey and thus bankrupting the party. After this, McCluskey will install someone electable. The MPs and constituencies will insist on it. Ed is toast.
    If they choose Burnham next time Labour will do worse, McCluskey should learn his lesson and let the more qualified set the agenda.
    Butcher Burnham would be my preferred choice as Labour leader by a long way. He'd lose worse than Miliband. So much blood on his hands.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 24,048
    Danny565 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Labour gains according to BBC:

    Wolv' SW
    Warwicks N
    Hendon
    Cambridge
    Cardiff North

    couldn't see Broxtowe didyou ?
    didn't see it on either the Tory or Labour list. Maybe it's one of the UKIP seats :D
    LOL or SNP :-)
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    paulyorkpaulyork Posts: 50
    At least one pollster should be embarrassed in the morning.
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    Confession time.
    I did put £30 on a Conservative majority at 13/2. That does look lost but worth a punt.
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    Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Scott_P said:

    @paulhutcheon: This is big. I understand Tom Greatrex, who has the second safest @scottishlabour seat, is looking vulnerable #GE2015

    21k majority.

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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,076
    Mr. Corporeal, not urgent, but as we wait for results could you check your mail? [Old message from me].
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,071

    Thrasher on Sky saying possible Tory gains in the Midlands.

    Ahem ...

    LOL

    every dog has his day ! If this result is right Romney is history :-)

    To be fair, this was a pretty easy one to call. You knew as well as me that The Midlands was going to be miserable for Labour.

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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Ishmael_X said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Danny565 said:

    Lets imagine Tories + Lib Dem's end up say 20 short...could we still be looking at another GE in a few months?

    Labour are spinning they could have a Coalition of the losers, but really, really, that wouldn't work.

    Yes - I think something that's being missed in this is that, even on the basis of the exit poll, although the Tories would be the "winners", it would still be very hard for the Tories to get things through parliament. A new election would beckon, unless the Tories can get a few more seats than the exit.
    That's because Tories are too busy celebrating and thinking Labour will never be the largest party in a parliament ever again. I understand being happy; what I don't understand is why you'd assume based on tonight's results the Tories will govern the UK forever. A tad hyperbolic from many on here.
    No one is making any such assumption.

    PS If you'd like me to talk you through the Sheffield Effect and the EdStone again I'm here all night.
    You really think the Conservatives being ahead by 77 is due to EdStone? Really? It's probably the SNP effect combined with Miliband's approval ratings, and people have little confidence in Labour's competence.

    And some are making such assumptions, claiming Labour are becoming 'obsolete', and that Labour will become 'extinct' outside of London, and are collapsing 'piece by piece, region by region'.
    the SNP effect = ed is crap (losing 59 seats in one go doesn't for some reason "not count" because they are Scottish seats)

    Miliband's approval ratings = ed is crap

    the Sheffield Effect = the electorate suddenly takes on board at a specific moment in the fortnight before the election that the LOTO is too crap to govern.

    And if Labour collapses it will be replaced by something else, so it won't be tories for ever.
    If were're looking at the polls, the Sheffield Effect has been going on for five years now. Miliband's ratings, for the most part have always been pretty bad. And who do think will replace Labour as the main centre-left party in England - unless of course, you think the centre-left are no longer viable in England....
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Ruth Davidson to Jackie Baillie "do you think you're gonna get gubbed tonight".

    Best Tory ever.
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    I did an internet exit poll for Populus this morning. Where is it?
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