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Simply brilliant from Femke Bol there.4
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But not rancid lard usually.MarqueeMark said:
In the UK, the tradition is to have Trump represented at the ABC debate by a tub of lard.SeaShantyIrish2 said:AP (via Seattle Times) - Trump says he’ll skip an ABC debate with Harris in September and wants them to face off on Fox News
Donald Trump says he is pulling out of a scheduled September debate with Vice President Kamala Harris on ABC and wants them to face off on Fox News, making it increasingly unlikely that the candidates will confront each other on stage before the November election.
In a series of Truth Social posts late Friday, the Republican nominee and former president said his agreement to a Sept. 10 debate on ABC “has been terminated” because he will no longer face Democratic President Joe Biden, who ended his campaign last month after a disastrous performance in their first debate.
Trump now says he will appear on Fox News on Sept. 4 in Pennsylvania with rules that he called “similar” to his debate with Biden, but with a full audience instead of a mostly empty studio. Trump said that if Harris, the likely Democratic nominee, does not agree to the new network and date, he will do a “major Town Hall” with Fox News.
Michael Tyler, a Harris spokesperson, said Trump “is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out.”
It was not immediately clear whether ABC would turn its Sept. 10 event into a Harris town hall in Trump’s absence. Tyler said Harris is committed to the time slot and would appear “one way or the other to take the opportunity to speak to a prime time national audience.”
SSI - See that self-proclaimed Hero of Butler is yet again burnishing his credentials as a bombastic bully coward.
NOT a good look and NOT a smart strategy . . . surprise! surprise!1 -
While all gentlemen come last, we were asking about your athletic prowess.Casino_Royale said:
Well, qualified for a school semi and then came lastScott_xP said:
You think 5th in an Olympic semi-final isn't success?Sandpit said:
Annoys me. Let’s celebrate the successes, that’s the whole point of the Olympics.FrancisUrquhart said:
BBC athletics have a really soft spot for her. It was the same last Olympics.Sandpit said:
Why is the headline “Dina Asher-Smith fails to quality for the final”, rather than “British athlete Daryll Neita makes the final”?Taz said:Interviewing a runner who came fifth in a heat on the BBC
When will we get it through our heads. A gallant loser is a loser.
What was your best result?
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Weirdly the only one he doesn’t narrate is for Heinz Beans.Casino_Royale said:Is there a single commercial out there that Sean Bean doesn't narrate, now?
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Why does only the 100 and 400 have relays?0
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I've always assumed that its by people trying to sound like Sean Bean.Casino_Royale said:Is there a single commercial out there that Sean Bean doesn't narrate, now?
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Nobody could be Sharpe enough to imitate Sean Bean.another_richard said:
I've always assumed that its by people trying to sound like Sean Bean.Casino_Royale said:Is there a single commercial out there that Sean Bean doesn't narrate, now?
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And the triathlon, oddly (although it is a fun event).dixiedean said:Why does only the 100 and 400 have relays?
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Netherlands just 0.02 secs from a new world record in the 400m relay.1
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It is quite amusing to see the Americans done over in this sort of thing. Shades of Kriss Akabusi, Tokyo 1991.tlg86 said:Simply brilliant from Femke Bol there.
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Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.0
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The mixed relay has only been run a handful of times and the world record was set by the US in the previous round!Andy_JS said:Netherlands just 0.02 secs from a new world record in the 400m relay.
I mean, it was a great performance by Bol, but not because it was nearly (although not actually) a world record.0 -
Sprint distance triathalon relay is fun. But I still think a mixed Iron Man relay, taking up much of an Olympic week would be the ultimate, taking in the greatest hits of an entire host country.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
And the triathlon, oddly (although it is a fun event).dixiedean said:Why does only the 100 and 400 have relays?
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And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
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100m athlete out of semi final because she went to the "wrong" gate and was not let in.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2024/08/03/shelly-ann-fraser-pryces-stunning-scratch-100/74659697007/
(She is not staying in the village, so cannot go on the team bus, but they let her taxi through every other day, she says).1 -
Peter Hitchens gearing up for his latest feud... With Nigel Farage
#Popcorn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13705459/PETER-HITCHENS-time-responsible-conservative-patriots-stood-Faragism-not-never-route-Britain-lost.html0 -
They probably think it's a normal day for Hull......tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
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"8th August — Camden Town: Minor overnight disturbances broke out in the area, quelled by police.[29]"Leon said:
Apols., I took my cue from the prior commentSunil_Prasannan said:
2011 riots. Get your years right!Leon said:
But it’s much much worse than the plasma screen riots, in one way, because this is rioting BETWEEN two sides, with major racial/sectarian elementsFrancisUrquhart said:
So far it doesn't seem to have on 2010 riots level, for a couple of days that got really out of hand and authorities had totally lost control, although mainly in London, there were other major cities that were only just hanging on at times.Andy_JS said:
This is on a different scale.Gardenwalker said:Good afternoon / evening from tranquil Manhattan.
Haven’t there always been sporadic outbursts from young white yobs in Britain? Or do we think this daily kick-off is something new, perhaps super-charged by social media?
We could do with some classic British summertime rain before it escalates further.
The plasma screen riots simply needed the coppers to get a grip - and they did, It was mindless stupidity and - belatedly - it was crushed, Sadly this is of a different level of seriousness as it has such potential for escalation, and now a Rubicon has been crossed
The 2010 riots felt surreal; this feels darkly ominous
I’m sure you are right
I may not remember the exact year but I remember the experience. Truly hallucinatory. I recall using social media to see how close the riots were getting to my flat on the wild Primrose Hill borders. At one point they came up Parkway and I thought, whoah. This is it, defend my home
But I had no tools so I stood on my balcony armed with… a bottle of Gran Reserva Rioja. What was I gonna do with it? Calm the rioters down with its notes of elegant leather and dark chocolate?
I actually saw a rioter - just one - like the crest of wave - he reached the top of Parkway, glanced up at me: this mad dude with a wine bottle on a balcony. He shrugged, and went back down the street. And that was it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2011_England_riots#Monday,_8_August0 -
I've 'ad a nice pot noodle
But I've never 'ad a poodle
And I've never met a nice South African.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn38ppr4zj0o
(Actually, I've met several nice South Africans. But there are some really unpleasant specimens on display in that story. Like these twats pretending the Southport stabbed isn't British.)0 -
This could be a huge scandal.carnforth said:100m athlete out of semi final because she went to the "wrong" gate and was not let in.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2024/08/03/shelly-ann-fraser-pryces-stunning-scratch-100/74659697007/
(She is not staying in the village, so cannot go on the team bus, but they let her taxi through every other day, she says).0 -
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Alfred from St. Lucia gets it, in a disappointingly slow time (but a PB and NR for her!).
British girl Neita 4th. Awesome effort.7 -
Actually I don't totally disagree with this, although I would say there's a range of views in every community.moonshine said:
For liberalism to work, it requires that the principles of liberalism are upheld across society. You can’t have a growing percentage of society with values completely counter to liberalism and expect the consensus to hold.WhisperingOracle said:
As we discussed recently, Germany has had higher immigration over the last three years, and has better infrastructure, housing, and productivity.moonshine said:
Honestly this is the sort of attitude that has got sections of society so angry. We don’t have enough houses or infrastructure and our productivity (and hence wealth creation) is shit, in large part because successive govts do nothing but throw cheap imported labour at the problem. There is also an undeniable dilution of traditional British values that is harming social cohesion. You can choose to ignore it if you want but it’s an European wide phenomenon. All you seem to want to do is make it about race, that’s as bad as the thugs out tonight and punching anyone that doesn’t look like them.EPG said:
What does this phenomenon have to do with Labour, exactly? The only thing they can change rapidly is the policing policy. The protesters won't be assuaged by policies to reject non-white people in the future. They want rid of the ones they see today.moonshine said:I’ve been caught in a proper civil disturbance / pre-revolutionary riot before. Bolivia 2002. That was wild. Police on motor bikes charging at the crowd while firing semi automatic weapons into the air. Ripped my trousers clambering over a fence as the crowd pulsed. Got away quite lightly I suppose, not all protests in Bolivia in that era ended so cleanly.
Anyway this isn’t that. There’s some angry people that feel left behind by our economy and democracy. And some av-eet boys livening up an otherwise boring summer. And some wronguns of various stripes. And a new government that hasn’t yet come to terms with the hard choices that power brings.
That government would however be foolish to overlook the undercurrent among the wwc, who seem to me to be throughly and justifiably fed up. If they’re not careful, the eventual reverse take over by Reform won’t be of the Conservative Party but Labour.
The phenomenon is as much to with Labour as the other three main Westminster parties, who have all adopted a similar policy stance since circa the millennium. It’s especially to do with Labour because they are now in the hot seat and the problems I describe are being felt by their voter base more than the average. Blair warned about this a few weeks ago, that if Starmer does not get a grip of the numbers then his flank is vulnerable to Reform. And his antenna is sharper than yours.
Some of these have been the results of the post-Thatcherite consensus that carried through to New Labour, and that Starmer will need to partially break with at some point to reverse. This isn't to say that there aren't issues to deal with from time to time, but together with the Netherlands we've still made a better success of a multiracial society than the the vast majority of Europe, thanks largely to that very long liberal tradition.
On that area I think we could actually embark on something useful, but less heavy-handed than the French in these areas, in emphasising the liberal roots in our society to everyone, as part of their education. This would also be an interesting challenge for both the Modern nationalist/populist right and the Modern Left to digest, emphasising neither imperial greatness and supposed supremacy, nor a concept solely of shame, exploitation and slavery.0 -
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Sadly the prices are mad there, now.ThomasNashe said:
Probably off to buy some cheese from the market. You can get some very nice French ones I believe.MisterBedfordshire said:
Oh and I also posted an eyewitness report from London Bridge station warning of a large police presence and large numbers of idiots chanting "we are millwall, no one likes us, we dont care" heading towards Borough and warning to avoid the area.MisterBedfordshire said:
Drastic Effects, on PB?JosiasJessop said:
Perhaps both of you should just shut the fuck up until we know more of what is going on, instead of spreading rumours and tittle-tattle that may well be wrong, yet might have drastic effects if believed?MisterBedfordshire said:
It appears that the severe head injuries inflicted on the two gentlemen (of which there is primae facie video evidence) were inflicted with weapons other than insertion of knives.Leon said:
Sadly, it’s not fake. Not the white thugs beating up the black guy and not the Muslim thugs stabbing the white guysTres said:
So not surprised that the two of you are creaming yourselves over fake news on social media. Sad.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
it’s all too real
So not fake news other than in the technicality sense.
Which is why was cautious and said that it *appears* that they had been stabbed rather than saying they had been as the twitter reports accompanying the videos.
I also refrained from speculating as to who the perpetrators were.
This isn't Mumsnet or Twatter.
However when I *responded* to a poster (not Leon), reporting an incident in Stoke, I exercised due caution and caveated my words eg "appears", omitted any details of the alleged perpetrators and omitted any link to any external sources e.g. tweets.
If PB didn't discuss any current events until all the facts are known sometime later it would be rather tedious.0 -
Chalk another one up for the Commonwealth.1
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Although squeaky bums have been known....beep beep beeeeeep....Queen to C4.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Chess. I mean really they should have chess in the Olympics too. And the arras!GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Dina Asher-Smith could have been one of the greats but for ill-timed injuries.FrancisUrquhart said:
BBC athletics have a really soft spot for her. It was the same last Olympics.Sandpit said:
Why is the headline “Dina Asher-Smith fails to quality for the final”, rather than “British athlete Daryll Neita makes the final”?Taz said:Interviewing a runner who came fifth in a heat on the BBC
When will we get it through our heads. A gallant loser is a loser.0 -
Possibly last used when Garry Kasparov offered to play in his homeland.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Was Hull FC V St Helens this afternoon, too.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.
Edit. The appropriately named Brad Fash was sinbinned for the hosts.0 -
Lets hope the chess players didn't inconvenience the racists too muchAlphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
St Lucia's first ever Olympic medal, apparently.Sandpit said:Alfred from St. Lucia gets it, in a disappointingly slow time (but a PB and NR for her!).
British girl Neita 4th. Awesome effort.2 -
10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.1
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As were the crowds. It actually felt a bit dangerous (risk of crush wise) and the security guards were quite agitated and trying to move people on, so we gave up and went elsewhere for lunch.Malmesbury said:
Sadly the prices are mad there, now.ThomasNashe said:
Probably off to buy some cheese from the market. You can get some very nice French ones I believe.MisterBedfordshire said:
Oh and I also posted an eyewitness report from London Bridge station warning of a large police presence and large numbers of idiots chanting "we are millwall, no one likes us, we dont care" heading towards Borough and warning to avoid the area.MisterBedfordshire said:
Drastic Effects, on PB?JosiasJessop said:
Perhaps both of you should just shut the fuck up until we know more of what is going on, instead of spreading rumours and tittle-tattle that may well be wrong, yet might have drastic effects if believed?MisterBedfordshire said:
It appears that the severe head injuries inflicted on the two gentlemen (of which there is primae facie video evidence) were inflicted with weapons other than insertion of knives.Leon said:
Sadly, it’s not fake. Not the white thugs beating up the black guy and not the Muslim thugs stabbing the white guysTres said:
So not surprised that the two of you are creaming yourselves over fake news on social media. Sad.Leon said:
wtf?MisterBedfordshire said:
Appears that two white youths have been stabbed and allegedly others attacked with axes and hammers.FrancisUrquhart said:It appears there has been an incident at the protest in Stoke.
If you want to know more see Twix for a less cautious summary.
Remember when I was derided for predicting civil disorder and maybe even race war?
We are going to a very very very dark place. We are right on the abyss. I hope this news report is completely wrong
it’s all too real
So not fake news other than in the technicality sense.
Which is why was cautious and said that it *appears* that they had been stabbed rather than saying they had been as the twitter reports accompanying the videos.
I also refrained from speculating as to who the perpetrators were.
This isn't Mumsnet or Twatter.
However when I *responded* to a poster (not Leon), reporting an incident in Stoke, I exercised due caution and caveated my words eg "appears", omitted any details of the alleged perpetrators and omitted any link to any external sources e.g. tweets.
If PB didn't discuss any current events until all the facts are known sometime later it would be rather tedious.
Ironically the Lebanese restaurant murals and Beirut beer harked back to what in memory was a beatiful peaceful country wrecked by sectarianism.0 -
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
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Javelin and Hammer relays would spice things up.dixiedean said:Why does only the 100 and 400 have relays?
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Oh wow, that’s awesome. She owned that race right from the gun, the Americans were nowhere despite all the talk of records.DecrepiterJohnL said:
St Lucia's first ever Olympic medal, apparently.Sandpit said:Alfred from St. Lucia gets it, in a disappointingly slow time (but a PB and NR for her!).
British girl Neita 4th. Awesome effort.2 -
Direct trains from London!tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
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She may have been taking more than baking soda, it might have been rather a windy day, and hell if they went back now and measured the track it’d probably be 99m long.FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
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Only the ones that Diana Morgan (Philomena Cunk) narrates.Casino_Royale said:Is there a single commercial out there that Sean Bean doesn't narrate, now?
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Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
What did you think?0 -
Never been, but Mum probably makes far superior foodMattW said:Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
What did you think?
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The dodgiest world record is probably the women's 800 metres which has stood since 1983.Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
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Wiki says:Sandpit said:
She may have been taking more than baking soda, it might have been rather a windy day, and hell if they went back now and measured the track it’d probably be 99m long.FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
"There is controversy over Griffith-Joyner's world record as questions have been raised as to whether the wind actually was zero, as indicated by the trackside anemometer. The triple-jump anemometer, some 10 metres away, read 4.3 m/s, more than double the acceptable limit.[4] Despite the controversy, the record was ratified by the IAAF."2 -
Whatever Flo Jo was on, the record only stands because there was officially no wind assistance despite there being little short of a force 8 gale pushing her along. Even the American commentators here say as much before the race.Sandpit said:
She may have been taking more than baking soda, it might have been rather a windy day, and hell if they went back now and measured the track it’d probably be 99m long.FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
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Dominica got their first ever medal, too. A Gold as well.4
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Bloody good job too, or the rioters would use them as pawns.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
"That's why the pawns go first!"Casino_Royale said:
Bloody good job too, or the rioters would use them as pawns.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.0 -
Oh indeed. There have been academic papers written about this record, it’s dodgy as hell.carnforth said:
Wiki says:Sandpit said:
She may have been taking more than baking soda, it might have been rather a windy day, and hell if they went back now and measured the track it’d probably be 99m long.FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
"There is controversy over Griffith-Joyner's world record as questions have been raised as to whether the wind actually was zero, as indicated by the trackside anemometer. The triple-jump anemometer, some 10 metres away, read 4.3 m/s, more than double the acceptable limit.[4] Despite the controversy, the record was ratified by the IAAF."1 -
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Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
Yes. Several times. It's ok.2 -
I have a strong suspicion the narrative from the Conservative Party and right wing commentators on the "undercurrent" would be completely different as recently as a couple of months ago when the Conservative Party were in power.EPG said:
What does this phenomenon have to do with Labour, exactly? The only thing they can change rapidly is the policing policy. The protesters won't be assuaged by policies to reject non-white people in the future. They want rid of the ones they see today.moonshine said:I’ve been caught in a proper civil disturbance / pre-revolutionary riot before. Bolivia 2002. That was wild. Police on motor bikes charging at the crowd while firing semi automatic weapons into the air. Ripped my trousers clambering over a fence as the crowd pulsed. Got away quite lightly I suppose, not all protests in Bolivia in that era ended so cleanly.
Anyway this isn’t that. There’s some angry people that feel left behind by our economy and democracy. And some av-eet boys livening up an otherwise boring summer. And some wronguns of various stripes. And a new government that hasn’t yet come to terms with the hard choices that power brings.
That government would however be foolish to overlook the undercurrent among the wwc, who seem to me to be throughly and justifiably fed up. If they’re not careful, the eventual reverse take over by Reform won’t be of the Conservative Party but Labour.1 -
Not necessarily. Knights can go first.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"That's why the pawns go first!"Casino_Royale said:
Bloody good job too, or the rioters would use them as pawns.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.
What's inherently racist about chess is that white goes first.0 -
My favourite local restaurant is run by a Punjabi mum. Her son persuaded her to open it and she serves no-nonsense home cooking. Really quite delicious and a very welcome break from 'mystery meat in a mystery red sauce'.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Never been, but Mum probably makes far superior foodMattW said:Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
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Play Go instead. Black goes first. But white gets a 6.5 (or 7.5) point start!ydoethur said:
Not necessarily. Knights can go first.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"That's why the pawns go first!"Casino_Royale said:
Bloody good job too, or the rioters would use them as pawns.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.
What's inherently racist about chess is that white goes first.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5MSynAEaZk&t=4sydoethur said:
Not necessarily. Knights can go first.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"That's why the pawns go first!"Casino_Royale said:
Bloody good job too, or the rioters would use them as pawns.GIN1138 said:
I bet that's the first time "chess" and "locked down as a safety precaution" have gone together in a sentence.Alphabet_Soup said:
According to BBC...tlg86 said:
And yet, Sky News (don't know about BBC) aren't there. They are in Liverpool and Bristol, presumably because they quite like those cities and Hull is a pain to get to.FrancisUrquhart said:Scenes from Hull seem by far the worst unrest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qq5pejvyo
the British Chess Championships are also taking place in Hull and have been locked down as a safety precaution.
What's inherently racist about chess is that white goes first.0 -
This is the best. Your first post on PB is to comment on an Indian restaurant in Leeds. And not even an in depth review, just “it’s ok”. Lovely stuff.DirtyLocal said:MattW Posts: 20,700 8:40PM
Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
Yes. Several times. It's ok.5 -
Seven of the eight athletes in that race, ran a career-fastest time. As did I think six of the eight in the other race held immediately afterwards. It was the semi-final of a trials meeting, no-one was targeting that particular race for a record, and even the commentator said they they were looking forward to seeing the time knowing it couldn’t count for a record.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Whatever Flo Jo was on, the record only stands because there was officially no wind assistance despite there being little short of a force 8 gale pushing her along. Even the American commentators here say as much before the race.Sandpit said:
She may have been taking more than baking soda, it might have been rather a windy day, and hell if they went back now and measured the track it’d probably be 99m long.FrancisUrquhart said:
Are you suggesting Flo Jo might have been taking more than baking soda....Sandpit said:10.71, more than two tenths away from the world record, one of the dodgiest records ever ratified. I was really hoping that one of them would have finally consigned this dodgy record to history after 36 years, but alas, not to be.
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Golds in athletics for St Lucia, Ecuador, Norway, Uganda and Dominica in first 8 events. As well as Netherlands, China and USA.2
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A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.9
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First she has to get hold of the phone book and hunt down anyone called Al.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
Actually that reminds me of my one brief visit to Saudi Arabia, years ago. The there was a Chinese colleague in our Khobar office. He introduced himself as Abdullah Wong. Touching when-in-Rome attitude, I thought.2 -
You can call me Al.TimS said:0 -
"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/18195948261169807610 -
Don't go there. We don't want riots in Luton.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/47352.stm0 -
There’s a fair bit of middle-class-splaining happening this weekend.Andy_JS said:"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/1819594826116980761
Tories: those trusty spokespeople for downtrodden working class.1 -
That’s a bit unfair on lardTheuniondivvie said:
But not rancid lard usually.MarqueeMark said:
In the UK, the tradition is to have Trump represented at the ABC debate by a tub of lard.SeaShantyIrish2 said:AP (via Seattle Times) - Trump says he’ll skip an ABC debate with Harris in September and wants them to face off on Fox News
Donald Trump says he is pulling out of a scheduled September debate with Vice President Kamala Harris on ABC and wants them to face off on Fox News, making it increasingly unlikely that the candidates will confront each other on stage before the November election.
In a series of Truth Social posts late Friday, the Republican nominee and former president said his agreement to a Sept. 10 debate on ABC “has been terminated” because he will no longer face Democratic President Joe Biden, who ended his campaign last month after a disastrous performance in their first debate.
Trump now says he will appear on Fox News on Sept. 4 in Pennsylvania with rules that he called “similar” to his debate with Biden, but with a full audience instead of a mostly empty studio. Trump said that if Harris, the likely Democratic nominee, does not agree to the new network and date, he will do a “major Town Hall” with Fox News.
Michael Tyler, a Harris spokesperson, said Trump “is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out.”
It was not immediately clear whether ABC would turn its Sept. 10 event into a Harris town hall in Trump’s absence. Tyler said Harris is committed to the time slot and would appear “one way or the other to take the opportunity to speak to a prime time national audience.”
SSI - See that self-proclaimed Hero of Butler is yet again burnishing his credentials as a bombastic bully coward.
NOT a good look and NOT a smart strategy . . . surprise! surprise!
That’s a bit unfair on rancid lard, come to think of it.0 -
The conservative commentariat really have swallowed multiple pills since the 4th.0
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Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
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You are Archibald Clark Kerr and I claim my 5 poundsTimS said:
First she has to get hold of the phone book and hunt down anyone called Al.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
Actually that reminds me of my one brief visit to Saudi Arabia, years ago. The there was a Chinese colleague in our Khobar office. He introduced himself as Abdullah Wong. Touching when-in-Rome attitude, I thought.0 -
According to YouGov he's already on minus 38.Leon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
Within 18 months he’ll be at minus 50
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Keir_Starmer0 -
Does that include, in Louise's mind, all Thatcher-era suburban and rural voters who wanted to destroy the union movement for about 30 years, well into the New Labour era ?Andy_JS said:"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/1819594826116980761
No ? What a surprise, n'esr-ce-pas.0 -
The answer to this rioting is simpleMisterBedfordshire said:
Don't go there. We don't want riots in Luton.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/47352.stm
Paxilon Hydrochlorate
Just dump it in the air.0 -
No idea who she is, but clearly she has no idea.Andy_JS said:"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/18195948261169807610 -
Off to the low countries for a week.
It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door.
Remarkably easy and agreeable though.
I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around.
I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see.
I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.6 -
Her feed suggests she’s one of those tradwives. Another American cultural import.FF43 said:
No idea who she is, but clearly she has no idea.Andy_JS said:"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/18195948261169807610 -
Who would be the 10% that would go on the rampage if you did that?Malmesbury said:
The answer to this rioting is simpleMisterBedfordshire said:
Don't go there. We don't want riots in Luton.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/47352.stm
Paxilon Hydrochlorate
Just dump it in the air.
Right now the Police would be happy with a Dihydrogen Monoxide dump.0 -
No more impressive buildings that promise great things, only to disappoint with half arsed chinoiserie inside when they really should have been decorated like a Mughal fort.carnforth said:
She should go to Finsbury Park and tweet "no more effete chinoiserie", just for balance.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
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No, his net rating is minus 9.Andy_JS said:
According to YouGov he's already on minus 38.Leon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
Within 18 months he’ll be at minus 50
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Keir_Starmer
Don't confuse the YouGov ratings with their proper polling.
https://x.com/YouGov/status/18192971617894855140 -
Have a great time! (Yes, Grimsby's Tower is very impressive! Surrounded by much that is not.)Cookie said:
Off to the low countries for a week.
It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door.
Remarkably easy and agreeable though.
I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around.
I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see.
I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.1 -
It's priceless, but then that was also priceless during the whole Brexit process.TimS said:
There’s a fair bit of middle-class-splaining happening this weekend.Andy_JS said:"Louise Perry
@Louise_m_perry
There are a lot of reasons why Britain is entering a period of sectarian violence that could develop into outright civil war in the coming years. The longstanding and open hatred of the British middle classes for the British working classes is one of those reasons."
https://x.com/Louise_m_perry/status/1819594826116980761
Tories: those trusty spokespeople for downtrodden working class.
The Tories, trusty friends of the industrial working man for 40 years, innit by gum, and no mistake.1 -
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He's been in less than a monthLeon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
Within 18 months he’ll be at minus 500 -
Tables: https://opinium.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/VI-2024-07-31-Observer-Tables.xlsxLeon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
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As a child I was fascinated by the idea of taking the DFDS to Denmark, and riding around Jutland on hired bikes in a happy suntanned-yet-blond family group, ending up in Legoland. We had the brochure at home but we never went.Cookie said:
Off to the low countries for a week.
It's odd to be going on holiday by heading east. Normally holidays start by heading eithet north or south on the M6. Heading east and leaving through Hull feels like leaving via the back door.
Remarkably easy and agreeable though.
I've spent an hour and a half watching England slip away. The Humber Estuary is so enthrallingly functional - particularly Immingham. In fact, ferries in general are much more interesting than planes. A brief insight into how our stuff moves around.
I have particularly enjoyed seeing the Italianate tower in Grimsby and the small parish churches of Holderness. And also Spurn Head, which I've always wanted to see.
I'd say English people are in a minority on the boat. Lots of Europeans coming back from a holiday in the North of England. Got chatting to an extended family from Utrecht returning from a week in Keswick. They always come to the UK on holiday, and I was pleased to discover they'd been to Wick on past visits.
Still fancy doing it. I tried to get work to support a ferry crossing instead of the LCY-Billund flight but the timings didn’t work.1 -
Russia are getting their lines out far far faster than the authorities.Nunu5 said:https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1819775754617389248
We don't know who threw the objectm0 -
Courts to be open 24hrs a day.
For all the talk of the fascist far right hardened EDL mob, when you see the footage there is a hell of a lot of clearly pretty young youth. Of course they are now on their holidays, so don't have the inconvenience of a job or school to be going to.
Authorities need to really get on top of this as in Hull and Liverpool today some really bad scenes.1 -
With Pussy Galore's Flying Circus?Malmesbury said:
The answer to this rioting is simpleMisterBedfordshire said:
Don't go there. We don't want riots in Luton.dixiedean said:
Wait till she discovers Mecca Bingo.Andy_JS said:A woman on twitter called TheNorfolkLion has tweeted "no more mosques" next to a photo of Brighton Pavilion. Trending on the platform.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/47352.stm
Paxilon Hydrochlorate
Just dump it in the air.1 -
There were two injured on the videos (which showed both on the same video). Both with head injuries. One was bleeding profusely but walking wounded. The other was down and in a bad way being treated by paramedics.Nunu5 said:https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1819775754617389248
We don't know who threw the objectm
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There doesn't look to be any Westminster polling hidden away in there.Foss said:
Tables: https://opinium.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/VI-2024-07-31-Observer-Tables.xlsxLeon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
Within 18 months he’ll be at minus 500 -
Watching the archery now, they’re hitting regular 9s and 10s from 70m away.
The 10 is 12cm wide.
12cm, from 70m, with an arrow!2 -
I have never forgotten telling man after man in cell after cell how long they would get in prison for the 2011 London riots.FrancisUrquhart said:Courts to be open 24hrs a day.
Once enthusiasm for lobbing bins at police has waned, once your pals have been arrested, once the booze & adrenaline subside - you realise.
Then regret.
Guess who won’t be coming along to give character evidence at your sentencing hearing? It’s the anonymous idiots-on-the-internet who inspired you to be the worst version of yourself after a few cans of beer and too much time on Facebook.
Ask any lawyer who blearily pressed the cell buzzer at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court in the early hours of those hot, dangerous days in August 2011.
There’s always a reckoning.
https://x.com/Joanna__Hardy/status/18196923609150917424 -
Opinium and others aren't conducting/publishing VI until they've understood where they went wrong at the general election.Foss said:
There doesn't look to be any Westminster polling hidden away in there.Foss said:
Tables: https://opinium.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/VI-2024-07-31-Observer-Tables.xlsxLeon said:Ahahaha
🚨 NEW: Keir Starmers approval rating has dropped from +19 to +3 in two weeks in the latest poll
[@OpiniumResearch]
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What are her opening hours?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Never been, but Mum probably makes far superior foodMattW said:Has anyone eaten at Tharavadu (Keralan) in Leeds?
What did you think?1 -
Russia is winning, sadly. In Ukraine, and here.Casino_Royale said:
Russia are getting their lines out far far faster than the authorities.Nunu5 said:https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1819775754617389248
We don't know who threw the objectm0 -
Proudest loser in a Paris.
https://x.com/glodyswotcher/status/1819673693897031898?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q0
