He really isn't all there. In years to come I am sure we will get the inside story of what has actually been happening the past few years and who actually makes the decisions.
Wrong. He is all there. He is weak on his feet at times, as one would expect for an 81-year-old. I find the ageist sneering about him pretty ugly to be honest.
Did you read the interview he did with Time magazine. It was total gobbledygook, hardly a coherent sentence and mixed up leaders, time lines, etc. It was like the output of very early LLM.
Two Lib Dem officials arrested in Harrogate over election issues from the LEs. DYOR but Tories available at 11/4 to hold here.
Dodgy Lib Dem leaflets...never...
North Yorkshire Police are investigating the party members in Harrogate after campaign material wrongly claimed the Green Party were not contesting a by-election.
The North Yorkshire Council poll for the Stray, Woodlands and Hookstone ward took place in March after former Liberal Democrat Pat Marsh resigned. A leaflet distributed to households said the Greens had '"stood down" when they had actually fielded a candidate. The Liberal Democrats blamed the misinformation on a "printing mistake".
No such thing as a “printing mistake”. If you’re the registered agent, you’re personally responsible for all the leaflets that go out with your name on them.
And even anything that doesn't have your name on them. One local election campaign I was agent for about 20 candidates. One particular candidate decided to print his own leaflet and distributed it without an imprint, worse it libeled one of his opponents. Cue angry phone calls and discussions with lawyers and we got an agreement with the opposition for us print a letter (wording agreed with the opposition) to deliver to all households in the ward with a grovelling apology for the previous leaflet. Not what I wanted every volunteer for the entire CLP to do on the eve of poll but it did keep me out of a courtroom.
Whoops, and yes of course you did the right thing. I do wonder how many people sign up to be an agent, without understanding the full responsibility of the position?
So, I recall a few PBers predicting SCon gains and a couple floating a ‘value’ punt for the SNP to lose all their seats. Anyone care to nail their flags to those particular masts today?
They would do far better if they called themselves Scones.
At a stroke the "Lib-Lab-Scon" slogan would be rendered mute.
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
For the first few times. It doesn't have legs. The plan is, once they have proven it will come down on target and hover, to hover it next to the launch tower then catch it. Amazing if they get it to work - then it will become the new normal.
In their pre-launch talk, the announcer said their planned tempo is to build one new Starship booster a day. I think they might mean launch one a day, but it might really be build as they want to get millions of tonnes to orbit.
The main thing slowing down the build rate is lack of places to put them.
It would be pretty bad if a major hurricane blew through the storage area
So, I recall a few PBers predicting SCon gains and a couple floating a ‘value’ punt for the SNP to lose all their seats. Anyone care to nail their flags to those particular masts today?
They would do far better if they called themselves Scones.
And could enhance their profile further by establishing a Scones Hotline.
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
The plan is for all boosters to return to the launch site, hover and be caught by arms on the launch tower (aka “the chop sticks”)
Until accurate landing is proven, they will ditch the boosters.
Are the boosters too big for the usual drone ship approach? Or is this the new overall plan to always return boosters to original launch pad?
Simpler and quicker to return to launch site.
It’s a major drag on Falcon 9 flight rate to have boosters steaming back on a barge for quite a while. Sea ops are always expensive and then you have the requirement for a crane to move the booster. This is a building that flies.
The chopsticks on the tower can pick up and move the booster like it’s a toy.
Edit:
The first few attempts at that are going to being some proper fireworks!!
How many times will they need to rebuild the chopsticks and the tower, before they can reliably perform the manoeuvre?
He really isn't all there. In years to come I am sure we will get the inside story of what has actually been happening the past few years and who actually makes the decisions.
But yet there are people in many quarters who say “nothing to see here, move along, he’s absolutely fine” when the evidence is right before your eyes that he clearly isn’t fine.
That messaging has been so, so damaging. He really should have retired this year.
The GOP are even more stupid that they are wed to the cult of Trump. Two old crazy guys screaming at the moon.
200m-ish eligible candidates, and they picked the same two old idiots as last time.
China and Russia must be laughing their arses off.
Is this the ultimate example of the prisoners’ dilemma, that either party could pick someone else and know they win, but if both do then they could lose?
One or other with a last-minute replacement can’t IMHO be ruled out.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
For the first few times. It doesn't have legs. The plan is, once they have proven it will come down on target and hover, to hover it next to the launch tower then catch it. Amazing if they get it to work - then it will become the new normal.
In their pre-launch talk, the announcer said their planned tempo is to build one new Starship booster a day. I think they might mean launch one a day, but it might really be build as they want to get millions of tonnes to orbit.
The main thing slowing down the build rate is lack of places to put them.
It would be pretty bad if a major hurricane blew through the storage area
They are building them so fast, that quite a few never fly anyway.
This is Ship 29, Booster 11, on the 4th test flight
The idea is that they are learning to build them rapidly. In parallel with building them *right*.
Some of the features on today’s launch are already obsolete.
This is a return to the hardware rich development style of the old days - Boeing built squadrons of B17s - X models, Y models, early production - until they worked out what was the best design. Some would argue that every B17 before the B17D was not really combat ready.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
The plan is for all boosters to return to the launch site, hover and be caught by arms on the launch tower (aka “the chop sticks”)
Until accurate landing is proven, they will ditch the boosters.
Are the boosters too big for the usual drone ship approach? Or is this the new overall plan to always return boosters to original launch pad?
Simpler and quicker to return to launch site.
It’s a major drag on Falcon 9 flight rate to have boosters steaming back on a barge for quite a while. Sea ops are always expensive and then you have the requirement for a crane to move the booster. This is a building that flies.
The chopsticks on the tower can pick up and move the booster like it’s a toy.
Edit:
The first few attempts at that are going to being some proper fireworks!!
How many times will they need to rebuild the chopsticks and the tower, before they can reliably perform the manoeuvre?
They are testing it at sea, against virtual tower.
Then it will be like F9 landings. The booster will be aimed slightly offshore. If anything goes wrong on the approach it will go into the sea.
The plan is multiple towers at each launch site as well.
Two Lib Dem officials arrested in Harrogate over election issues from the LEs. DYOR but Tories available at 11/4 to hold here.
Dodgy Lib Dem leaflets...never...
North Yorkshire Police are investigating the party members in Harrogate after campaign material wrongly claimed the Green Party were not contesting a by-election.
The North Yorkshire Council poll for the Stray, Woodlands and Hookstone ward took place in March after former Liberal Democrat Pat Marsh resigned. A leaflet distributed to households said the Greens had '"stood down" when they had actually fielded a candidate. The Liberal Democrats blamed the misinformation on a "printing mistake".
No such thing as a “printing mistake”. If you’re the registered agent, you’re personally responsible for all the leaflets that go out with your name on them.
And even anything that doesn't have your name on them. One local election campaign I was agent for about 20 candidates. One particular candidate decided to print his own leaflet and distributed it without an imprint, worse it libeled one of his opponents. Cue angry phone calls and discussions with lawyers and we got an agreement with the opposition for us print a letter (wording agreed with the opposition) to deliver to all households in the ward with a grovelling apology for the previous leaflet. Not what I wanted every volunteer for the entire CLP to do on the eve of poll but it did keep me out of a courtroom.
Whoops, and yes of course you did the right thing. I do wonder how many people sign up to be an agent, without understanding the full responsibility of the position?
Think of the people who sign up to run charities and then express the belief that it is unfair to hold them legally liable for their voluntarily accepted legal liabilities.
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
The plan is for all boosters to return to the launch site, hover and be caught by arms on the launch tower (aka “the chop sticks”)
Until accurate landing is proven, they will ditch the boosters.
Are the boosters too big for the usual drone ship approach? Or is this the new overall plan to always return boosters to original launch pad?
Simpler and quicker to return to launch site.
It’s a major drag on Falcon 9 flight rate to have boosters steaming back on a barge for quite a while. Sea ops are always expensive and then you have the requirement for a crane to move the booster. This is a building that flies.
The chopsticks on the tower can pick up and move the booster like it’s a toy.
Edit:
The first few attempts at that are going to being some proper fireworks!!
How many times will they need to rebuild the chopsticks and the tower, before they can reliably perform the manoeuvre?
They are testing it at sea, against virtual tower.
Then it will be like F9 landings. The booster will be aimed slightly offshore. If anything goes wrong on the approach it will go into the sea.
The plan is multiple towers at each launch site as well.
Yes, the same iteration as they did with the original F9 landings, using the sea to narrow the target window.
If there are multiple towers at the launch site, will an incoming rocket be able to dynamically switch to another if slightly off course, like parallel runways at at airport?
THE hospitalised Tory candidate who was deselected in favour of Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross today insisted he is fit to stand in the General Election.
David Duguid hit out amid claims from party chiefs that he is not well enough to be the candidate for Aberdeenshire North and Moray East constituency on July 4.
They they just land it on the water rather than a drone ship?
The plan is for all boosters to return to the launch site, hover and be caught by arms on the launch tower (aka “the chop sticks”)
Until accurate landing is proven, they will ditch the boosters.
Are the boosters too big for the usual drone ship approach? Or is this the new overall plan to always return boosters to original launch pad?
Simpler and quicker to return to launch site.
It’s a major drag on Falcon 9 flight rate to have boosters steaming back on a barge for quite a while. Sea ops are always expensive and then you have the requirement for a crane to move the booster. This is a building that flies.
The chopsticks on the tower can pick up and move the booster like it’s a toy.
Edit:
The first few attempts at that are going to being some proper fireworks!!
How many times will they need to rebuild the chopsticks and the tower, before they can reliably perform the manoeuvre?
They are testing it at sea, against virtual tower.
Then it will be like F9 landings. The booster will be aimed slightly offshore. If anything goes wrong on the approach it will go into the sea.
The plan is multiple towers at each launch site as well.
Yes, the same iteration as they did with the original F9 landings, using the sea to narrow the target window.
If there are multiple towers at the launch site, will an incoming rocket be able to dynamically switch to another if slightly off course, like parallel runways at at airport?
Probably not - if slightly of course, something is wrong and you would want to ditch the booster.
THE hospitalised Tory candidate who was deselected in favour of Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross today insisted he is fit to stand in the General Election.
David Duguid hit out amid claims from party chiefs that he is not well enough to be the candidate for Aberdeenshire North and Moray East constituency on July 4.
This SpaceX broadcast really is a vertical integration achievement.
Elon's rocket on Elon's social media platform, with the signal provided by his satellites.
He is cunning devil in that respect. Same way as Tesla SuperChargers network are located in many prime spots for charging and has solar / battery powerwall tech to provide power for them, and the starlink is much better for internet on commercial planes than existing satellite tech can either be (and there is ever greater need for fast internet on planes, both from telemetry being send to the ground and passengers wanting it).
THE hospitalised Tory candidate who was deselected in favour of Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross today insisted he is fit to stand in the General Election.
David Duguid hit out amid claims from party chiefs that he is not well enough to be the candidate for Aberdeenshire North and Moray East constituency on July 4.
WTF, a Scottish Tory civil war on the eve of the election?
An election where the SCons might expect a random gain or two as the SNP implode.
If the SCon Management Board (of which Douglas Ross is a member) genuinely thought Duguid was unfit to stand, then far better let a local take up the mantle than a Holyrood MSP who has said he won’t stand again for Westminster. It stinks to high heaven.
THE hospitalised Tory candidate who was deselected in favour of Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross today insisted he is fit to stand in the General Election.
David Duguid hit out amid claims from party chiefs that he is not well enough to be the candidate for Aberdeenshire North and Moray East constituency on July 4.
This SpaceX broadcast really is a vertical integration achievement.
Elon's rocket on Elon's social media platform, with the signal provided by his satellites.
He is cunning devil in that respect. Same way as Tesla SuperChargers network are located in many prime spots for charging and has solar / battery powerwall tech to provide power for them, and the starlink is much better for internet on commercial planes than existing satellite tech can either be (and there is ever greater need for fast internet on planes, both from telemetry being send to the ground and passengers wanting it).
The super charger network was carefully located to make long distance trips in EVs easy.
Starlink was as a result of others failing to take the opportunity to launch absurdly cheaply on F9. “If no one else will…”. Other LEO constellation designs assumed infrequent, expensive launch.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
So, I recall a few PBers predicting SCon gains and a couple floating a ‘value’ punt for the SNP to lose all their seats. Anyone care to nail their flags to those particular masts today?
SNP won't lose all their seats certainly but there's some chance of SCon gaining one or two, it depends where the SNP vote ends up. Perth and Kinross, Angus and the glens, Argyll look interesting battles,although I think Luke G might have pissed off the good folk of Perth at the hustings
Ayr might also go Tory.
Banff and Buchan likely goes SNP again though as it was from 1987-2017
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
The Tories are being thoroughly honest about tax. They will cut NI and IHT for starters. What they are dishonest about is explaining the cuts to social services required to fund these tax cuts. And to be fair Labour and the media aren't asking.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
The Tories are being thoroughly honest about tax. They will cut NI and IHT for starters. What they are dishonest about is explaining the cuts to social services required to fund these tax cuts. And to be fair Labour and the media aren't asking.
Labour have been strongly challenging on the NI point to the point of flirting with the truth themselves. Claiming it is a policy when it is an aspiration, well some Labour politicians have. "How will the Tories plug the £46 Billion gap" etc etc. You may have missed it.
They have not announced any plans to cut IHT, that is just a presumption on your part.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
Why on earth should Labour give the Tories and their media arselickers ammunition . The public don’t want honesty they want to live in a bubble where taxes don’t need to go up and yet services will miraculously improve .
Glad to see TSE is recovering from his encounter with the barber surgeon. Hopefully his recovery to full health will be swift, aided one imagines by a timely course of leeches.
I understand the NHS still use leeches.
For some specific issues, they are the best thing to use.
I thought their proper title was Private Providers
No, they are great for removing extravasated blood etc. My ex-boss had them used to remove blood from around his eye. But rather than be squeamish he was positively chilled about it, being a keen naturalist.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
Why on earth should Labour give the Tories and their media arselickers ammunition . The public don’t want honesty they want to live in a bubble where taxes don’t need to go up and yet services will miraculously improve .
You could say the same about Labour and their media flag wavers and sycophants.
However I think Labour need to think strategically about the next election. This one is won. They are home and dry barring a major miracle.
You are wrong about the public. They are happy for taxes to go up. Just not their own.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
Must say the picture quality these days is a lot better than the Apollo missions (on which, btw, itw as great to have the feature film a few years back so I could see what it should have looked like).
That was incredible! It still managed to orient itself for a landing burn despite having a flap practically melted off!
That flap definitely didn’t look like it was going to be much good, but it bloody worked when it mattered. I can’t have been the only one who expected it to depart at some point.
They’ll have got a ridiculous amount of data from that camera and all the telemetry.
Experimental science done live on TV, by people who treat every failure as an opportunity to learn, is really awesome to watch
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
Why on earth should Labour give the Tories and their media arselickers ammunition . The public don’t want honesty they want to live in a bubble where taxes don’t need to go up and yet services will miraculously improve .
You could say the same about Labour and their media flag wavers and sycophants.
However I think Labour need to think strategically about the next election. This one is won. They are home and dry barring a major miracle.
You are wrong about the public. They are happy for taxes to go up. Just not their own.
The UK print media are overwhelmingly Tory arselickers . Labour have won zip , not a single vote has been cast and if Labour suddenly decided to lay out the truth to the public about the state of the finances and tax rises needed to fix public services then they’d be far from home and dry .
Edward Henry KC has skilfully put another big piece of the PO Scandal jigsaw in place.
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
Ironic since a lot of you were talking about the ‘largest object to ever re-enter the earth’s atmosphere’… notwithstanding that a meteor of course doesn’t re-enter!
New Survation at 5:30pm and this surely refers to the ‘extinction level event’ for the Tories
Must say the picture quality these days is a lot better than the Apollo missions (on which, btw, itw as great to have the feature film a few years back so I could see what it should have looked like).
Wildly offtopic, but someone pointed me at this the other day.
At the 1962 Monaco Grand Prix, a group made a film of the event, that they shot on 70mm film, which must have been horrifically difficult at the time with the heavy cameras and short film lengths. IIRC it was exhibited at Cannes the following year.
Look at it now though, and it’s some of the most captivating footage ever seen of events 60 years ago.
Edward Henry KC has skilfully put another big piece of the PO Scandal jigsaw in place.
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
And now Perkins has been nailed by none other than Paula Vennells' lawyer.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
What would you build in orbit?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
Ironic since a lot of you were talking about the ‘largest object to ever re-enter the earth’s atmosphere’… notwithstanding that a meteor of course doesn’t re-enter!
New Survation at 5:30pm and this surely refers to the ‘extinction level event’ for the Tories
Lecture (in the field) about this sort of thing in Scotland for those interested: no idea if a precedent for Mr Ross.
I come on to PB for a forensic dissection of the possible election outcome of the Brecon and Radnorshire constituency and whether Lady Lily the Pink might improve upon her performance over previous years and all I find is people blathering on about the Conservative Party, Sir Keir Starmer, and some shenanigans in Scotland of all places.
Let's keep focused people.
I am therefore heading off now and might be back later.
Must say the picture quality these days is a lot better than the Apollo missions (on which, btw, itw as great to have the feature film a few years back so I could see what it should have looked like).
Wildly offtopic, but someone pointed me at this the other day.
At the 1962 Monaco Grand Prix, a group made a film of the event, that they shot on 70mm film, which must have been horrifically difficult at the time with the heavy cameras and short film lengths. IIRC it was exhibited at Cannes the following year.
Look at it now though, and it’s some of the most captivating footage ever seen of events 60 years ago.
This SpaceX broadcast really is a vertical integration achievement.
Elon's rocket on Elon's social media platform, with the signal provided by his satellites.
He is cunning devil in that respect. Same way as Tesla SuperChargers network are located in many prime spots for charging and has solar / battery powerwall tech to provide power for them, and the starlink is much better for internet on commercial planes than existing satellite tech can either be (and there is ever greater need for fast internet on planes, both from telemetry being send to the ground and passengers wanting it).
The super charger network was carefully located to make long distance trips in EVs easy.
Starlink was as a result of others failing to take the opportunity to launch absurdly cheaply on F9. “If no one else will…”. Other LEO constellation designs assumed infrequent, expensive launch.
The story of the Amazonian tribe who just got internet access from Starlink is quite funny.
It took them six months to be hooked on social media and porn, same as the rest of us.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
What would you build in orbit?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
Tbh Mars doesn't really fuss me, but are you familiar with the work of Gerard K O'Neill & John Bernal ?
Edward Henry KC has skilfully put another big piece of the PO Scandal jigsaw in place.
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
And now Perkins has been nailed by none other than Paula Vennells' lawyer.
Alice caught out lying.
Vennells and Perkins were thick as thieves at the PO, but Perkins cut her old friend adrift in her testimony, and now it seems PV is fighting back.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
What would you build in orbit?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
For the same reason the ISS was built in orbit. It would be very difficult to build a rocket big enough to lift all the mass needed for a sizeable Mars mission out of the Earth's gravity well in one go. It's much more practical to take it up bit by bit and build it in LEO, despite the difficulties of building stuff in space.
Have we talked about the latest YouGov? Tories and Reform level on 18 each?
It’s quite bizarre when you think about it. No idea if the polls are accurate or there is a weird quirk but I keep thinking about it in bewilderment. When you think “Reform on 18%, same as Tories” first it’s, well surely there aren’t 18% of voters in Winchester, Cheltenham, Tunbridge Wells, Guildford etc who would go for Reform. Obviously I then think, don’t be silly, it’s larger amounts in Hartlepool, Clacton etc. This starts to level out the imbalance but then I still think, surely there can’t be that many, the sheer number of seats that are needed to push Reform to 18% as an average when you factor in Tory south eastern and Home Counties strongholds, London Labour Storngholds, northern Labour shoe-ins, Scottish Seats, Welsh seats.
It just doesn’t really make sense that a party that’s pretty much an unknown quantity except for being anti-immigration, and where only one candidate would be remotely known by 90% of the population could be getting such high numbers.
Is it people responding Reform to pollsters because they are just unhappy with the Tories and can’t think about who they actually would vote for so send a message. Are there really 18% of the population who are so angry about immigration they will vote Reform?
I know it’s a lot more complicated but it seems totally unreal.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
It doesn't really matter what 2024 Tory supporters do. They can say whatever. What will matter to Labour in 2028 or whenever is what the switchers do.
Well it will if the accusation stick into 2028/9 and it undermines Labour. Alot will depend on how the economy rebuilds and moves forward and if Labour can actually get some growth.
One former Treasury official said: “In the end, not least for demographic reasons, this country is going to have to pay more tax and Labour is going to have to find ways to raise it. The British people are crying out for an honest conversation about this.”
Some in Labour agree that a failure to admit they will have to raise taxes could become a “credibility issue” with the public, business leaders and international investors."
This is why, when Labour do start raising taxes, all this stuff about the Tories being liars will come back to bite them.
Both Parties are going to have to do something to raise tax to raise the money they need. They will not do it by growth, they will not doing it through closing loopholes, effeciency savings or the measures already announced.
People like taxes when they do not affect them so expect more stealth taxes.
Neither party is being honest on this with us. Labour can say the Tories are lying about specifics but they do have uncosted plans and are not telling us how that gap will be filled.
You can't be honest when the current Government has given working people a massive £1600 tax cut that cannot be justified based on spending cuts that don't exist.
Of course can, and you can re-iterate it was a reckless thing to do at this stage and point out the money would be better off put into services if you so wished. Portray labour as the party of fiscal responsibility. But that is fine. Their choice.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
Well your last paragraph worked in 2010. "We have to cut harder and faster because of the mess Labour left us". You PB Tories still get mileage out of Liam Byrne's note
I am no more a Tory than you, and that is, partly, my point. That note of Liam Byrne's still comes back to bite. It shouldn't.
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
Why on earth should Labour give the Tories and their media arselickers ammunition . The public don’t want honesty they want to live in a bubble where taxes don’t need to go up and yet services will miraculously improve .
You could say the same about Labour and their media flag wavers and sycophants.
However I think Labour need to think strategically about the next election. This one is won. They are home and dry barring a major miracle.
You are wrong about the public. They are happy for taxes to go up. Just not their own.
I imagine "we're home and dry, we should start thinking strategically" is what May's advisors were thinking when they came up with that social care policy. It's not over til it's over, and though I'd like more clarity from Labour I'm not surprised they're taking the course they're taking .
Have we talked about the latest YouGov? Tories and Reform level on 18 each?
It’s quite bizarre when you think about it. No idea if the polls are accurate or there is a weird quirk but I keep thinking about it in bewilderment. When you think “Reform on 18%, same as Tories” first it’s, well surely there aren’t 18% of voters in Winchester, Cheltenham, Tunbridge Wells, Guildford etc who would go for Reform. Obviously I then think, don’t be silly, it’s larger amounts in Hartlepool, Clacton etc. This starts to level out the imbalance but then I still think, surely there can’t be that many, the sheer number of seats that are needed to push Reform to 18% as an average when you factor in Tory south eastern and Home Counties strongholds, London Labour Storngholds, northern Labour shoe-ins, Scottish Seats, Welsh seats.
It just doesn’t really make sense that a party that’s pretty much an unknown quantity except for being anti-immigration, and where only one candidate would be remotely known by 90% of the population could be getting such high numbers.
Is it people responding Reform to pollsters because they are just unhappy with the Tories and can’t think about who they actually would vote for so send a message. Are there really 18% of the population who are so angry about immigration they will vote Reform?
I know it’s a lot more complicated but it seems totally unreal.
Moderate Tories are drifting to the LDs and Labour, Right-winger Tories may see the Labour 450+ seats predictions and thinking “Sod it, might as well vote Reform”.
You’re right that I think 18% is high for ‘right now’ but in a week’s time…Give it a few days of headlines in the right-leaning papers putting the idea into more people’s heads that Reform might be a ‘better use of a vote’ ultimately, coupled with a Farage debate appearance on Friday…
Edward Henry KC has skilfully put another big piece of the PO Scandal jigsaw in place.
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
And now Perkins has been nailed by none other than Paula Vennells' lawyer.
Alice caught out lying.
Vennells and Perkins were thick as thieves at the PO, but Perkins cut her old friend adrift in her testimony, and now it seems PV is fighting back.
Cats in a sack!
Unfortunately none of the real lessons will be learned from this exercise. We will still have a revolving cast of public sector senior executives moving from job to job knowing of how to do any of them.
When it comes to the main cast in this Horizon scandal can’t we just get an enterprising backbencher once this election is over to just put through a bill declaring them guilty.
Have we talked about the latest YouGov? Tories and Reform level on 18 each?
It’s quite bizarre when you think about it. No idea if the polls are accurate or there is a weird quirk but I keep thinking about it in bewilderment. When you think “Reform on 18%, same as Tories” first it’s, well surely there aren’t 18% of voters in Winchester, Cheltenham, Tunbridge Wells, Guildford etc who would go for Reform. Obviously I then think, don’t be silly, it’s larger amounts in Hartlepool, Clacton etc. This starts to level out the imbalance but then I still think, surely there can’t be that many, the sheer number of seats that are needed to push Reform to 18% as an average when you factor in Tory south eastern and Home Counties strongholds, London Labour Storngholds, northern Labour shoe-ins, Scottish Seats, Welsh seats.
It just doesn’t really make sense that a party that’s pretty much an unknown quantity except for being anti-immigration, and where only one candidate would be remotely known by 90% of the population could be getting such high numbers.
Is it people responding Reform to pollsters because they are just unhappy with the Tories and can’t think about who they actually would vote for so send a message. Are there really 18% of the population who are so angry about immigration they will vote Reform?
I know it’s a lot more complicated but it seems totally unreal.
Here's my hypothesis.
This is the Fuck The Tories election. Practically everyone hates them. They have lost the red wall and the cities and the towns to Labour and seem to now be leaking rural areas to them as well. They have lost the south and leafy suburbs to the LibDems.
But for true blue Brexiteer Tories? Of course they are going Reform - because the Tories aren't conservative and Reform are.
Farage stepping up is the end. Sorry Tories, but you did this to yourselves.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
What would you build in orbit?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
For the same reason the ISS was built in orbit. It would be very difficult to build a rocket big enough to lift all the mass needed for a sizeable Mars mission out of the Earth's gravity well in one go. It's much more practical to take it up bit by bit and build it in LEO, despite the difficulties of building stuff in space.
There are many reasons. Buzz Aldrin has his Mars Cycler concept : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler , which is both conceptually brilliant and exceptionally troublesome.
Greens, LD, Labour and Workers Party all have local people (Merseyside area) standing. The Conservative candidate however, assuming 'whocanivotefor' website is right, is from Kingston upon Thames - I mean - they're not even trying (then again, they didn't in 2019 either).
Have we talked about the latest YouGov? Tories and Reform level on 18 each?
It’s quite bizarre when you think about it. No idea if the polls are accurate or there is a weird quirk but I keep thinking about it in bewilderment. When you think “Reform on 18%, same as Tories” first it’s, well surely there aren’t 18% of voters in Winchester, Cheltenham, Tunbridge Wells, Guildford etc who would go for Reform. Obviously I then think, don’t be silly, it’s larger amounts in Hartlepool, Clacton etc. This starts to level out the imbalance but then I still think, surely there can’t be that many, the sheer number of seats that are needed to push Reform to 18% as an average when you factor in Tory south eastern and Home Counties strongholds, London Labour Storngholds, northern Labour shoe-ins, Scottish Seats, Welsh seats.
It just doesn’t really make sense that a party that’s pretty much an unknown quantity except for being anti-immigration, and where only one candidate would be remotely known by 90% of the population could be getting such high numbers.
Is it people responding Reform to pollsters because they are just unhappy with the Tories and can’t think about who they actually would vote for so send a message. Are there really 18% of the population who are so angry about immigration they will vote Reform?
I know it’s a lot more complicated but it seems totally unreal.
Look at the other poll showing if things have got better or worse over the last 14 years. It is only about 5% who think things have got better on most of the important factors. The surprising thing is there are still 20% who want to reward the corrupt, useless and divided Conservatives with another 5 years.
Edward Henry KC has skilfully put another big piece of the PO Scandal jigsaw in place.
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
And now Perkins has been nailed by none other than Paula Vennells' lawyer.
Alice caught out lying.
Vennells and Perkins were thick as thieves at the PO, but Perkins cut her old friend adrift in her testimony, and now it seems PV is fighting back.
Cats in a sack!
Unfortunately none of the real lessons will be learned from this exercise. We will still have a revolving cast of public sector senior executives moving from job to job knowing of how to do any of them.
When it comes to the main cast in this Horizon scandal can’t we just get an enterprising backbencher once this election is over to just put through a bill declaring them guilty.
It would be wonderful, Jim!
But as followers of the saga know all too well, all three main parties have dirty hands in this matter. You think they are going to find themselves guilty?
Just noticed that only 30% would fight to defend the UK from an invasion. Shocking.
That seems high to me. There will be quite a few of those 30% deluding themselves that they can take a life but, when it comes to it, actually can't do it.
I still think Elon needs to change tack slightly for true HEAVY interplanetary ships to ships that will be built in orbit as the risks, physics and material science of big big ships heading through earth's atmosphere is err... risky. But you'll want big ships to lift the materials to orbit - ultimately that's my guess as to what superheavy will be used for - to get the materials for the really big stuff into orbit.
What would you build in orbit?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
For the same reason the ISS was built in orbit. It would be very difficult to build a rocket big enough to lift all the mass needed for a sizeable Mars mission out of the Earth's gravity well in one go. It's much more practical to take it up bit by bit and build it in LEO, despite the difficulties of building stuff in space.
You can send most of the equipment for a Mars mission ahead of the people you send, and then you know it has landed safely and is waiting for the crew before you send the crew.
I just don't see any advantage to building a bigger ship in LEO, rather than sending several small ships directly. You massively increase the complexity of the mission by trying to build things in orbit. Absurdly so.
Crossover would itself become a big media story, as mentioned yesterday.
Defections might then probably follow.
WEDNESDAY: Ross launches an outrageous removal of Duguid as Tory candidate THURSDAY: Ross suffers combative meeting of the local Tory association FRIDAY: Ross submits his candidate paperwork. For Reform.
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At a stroke the "Lib-Lab-Scon" slogan would be rendered mute.
How many times will they need to rebuild the chopsticks and the tower, before they can reliably perform the manoeuvre?
China and Russia must be laughing their arses off.
Is this the ultimate example of the prisoners’ dilemma, that either party could pick someone else and know they win, but if both do then they could lose?
One or other with a last-minute replacement can’t IMHO be ruled out.
They may very well have to deal with the electoral consequences of this at a later date. Saying "we have just come in and things are worse than we expected" just won't cut it and the Tories and their supporters will simply say "we told you so".
This is Ship 29, Booster 11, on the 4th test flight
The idea is that they are learning to build them rapidly. In parallel with building them *right*.
Some of the features on today’s launch are already obsolete.
This is a return to the hardware rich development style of the old days - Boeing built squadrons of B17s - X models, Y models, early production - until they worked out what was the best design. Some would argue that every B17 before the B17D was not really combat ready.
Then it will be like F9 landings. The booster will be aimed slightly offshore. If anything goes wrong on the approach it will go into the sea.
The plan is multiple towers at each launch site as well.
If there are multiple towers at the launch site, will an incoming rocket be able to dynamically switch to another if slightly off course, like parallel runways at at airport?
THE hospitalised Tory candidate who was deselected in favour of Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross today insisted he is fit to stand in the General Election.
David Duguid hit out amid claims from party chiefs that he is not well enough to be the candidate for Aberdeenshire North and Moray East constituency on July 4.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/12829443/hospital-tory-candidate-douglas-ross-david-duguid/
An election where the SCons might expect a random gain or two as the SNP implode.
toysrocketsNo idea who or what has launched today but am assuming it’s not a new party.
I’ll check back later.
Elon's rocket on Elon's social media platform, with the signal provided by his satellites.
Though of course as the UK and France have nukes Putin might hesitate even if he reached the French border
"Nobody's perfect!"
Starlink was as a result of others failing to take the opportunity to launch absurdly cheaply on F9. “If no one else will…”. Other LEO constellation designs assumed infrequent, expensive launch.
Banff and Buchan likely goes SNP again though as it was from 1987-2017
Labour should be open and honest. They are going to win at a canter. Both parties are not being honest with us on tax. They should be.
They have not announced any plans to cut IHT, that is just a presumption on your part.
I recently watched one of these. Rather good and rather underrated.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/eastenders-star-nicholas-ball-dies-aged-78-after-short-illness/ar-BB1nJZPO?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=9d46282322304288b2a5991b900b85a1&ei=13
So Starship is floating in the Indian Ocean somewhere.
Impressive, despite the damage from the burn through on the flap hinge.
However I think Labour need to think strategically about the next election. This one is won. They are home and dry barring a major miracle.
You are wrong about the public. They are happy for taxes to go up. Just not their own.
It basically landed upright on the surface of the sea, same as we see the Falcon 9 landings.
Must say the picture quality these days is a lot better than the Apollo missions (on which, btw, itw as great to have the feature film a few years back so I could see what it should have looked like).
They’ll have got a ridiculous amount of data from that camera and all the telemetry.
Experimental science done live on TV, by people who treat every failure as an opportunity to learn, is really awesome to watch
The Government was floating the Royal Mail off in a public sale at almost exactly the time the evidence emerged that Horizon was crap and the PO's Expert Witness had lied in court. Some coincidence!
https://x.com/damiansurvation/status/1798713442628669566?s=46
Ironic since a lot of you were talking about the ‘largest object to ever re-enter the earth’s atmosphere’… notwithstanding that a meteor of course doesn’t re-enter!
New Survation at 5:30pm and this surely refers to the ‘extinction level event’ for the Tories
At the 1962 Monaco Grand Prix, a group made a film of the event, that they shot on 70mm film, which must have been horrifically difficult at the time with the heavy cameras and short film lengths. IIRC it was exhibited at Cannes the following year.
Look at it now though, and it’s some of the most captivating footage ever seen of events 60 years ago.
https://youtu.be/2r3gVcwoeyw?si=78Drq_nTgMDzZyz_
Alice caught out lying.
https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1798675596416823667
And now with Survation predicting an extinction level event...
Could we see crossover between Con and Ref this afternoon?
If you're going to Mars you may as well send your payload direct to Mars than faff around in LEO first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmOf6TODAL0
Time to double down on the trading bets methinks.
Let's keep focused people.
I am therefore heading off now and might be back later.
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Back to rocket now.
It took them six months to be hooked on social media and porn, same as the rest of us.
Or would that be a bit like Kentucky Fried Chicken telling their "secret blend of herbs and spices" ?
Cats in a sack!
"what do you know about E.L.E.?"
It just doesn’t really make sense that a party that’s pretty much an unknown quantity except for being anti-immigration, and where only one candidate would be remotely known by 90% of the population could be getting such high numbers.
Is it people responding Reform to pollsters because they are just unhappy with the Tories and can’t think about who they actually would vote for so send a message. Are there really 18% of the population who are so angry about immigration they will vote Reform?
I know it’s a lot more complicated but it seems totally unreal.
You’re right that I think 18% is high for ‘right now’ but in a week’s time…Give it a few days of headlines in the right-leaning papers putting the idea into more people’s heads that Reform might be a ‘better use of a vote’ ultimately, coupled with a Farage debate appearance on Friday…
*Which is reserved for the Poll Rampers.
When it comes to the main cast in this Horizon scandal can’t we just get an enterprising backbencher once this election is over to just put through a bill declaring them guilty.
This is the Fuck The Tories election. Practically everyone hates them. They have lost the red wall and the cities and the towns to Labour and seem to now be leaking rural areas to them as well. They have lost the south and leafy suburbs to the LibDems.
But for true blue Brexiteer Tories? Of course they are going Reform - because the Tories aren't conservative and Reform are.
Farage stepping up is the end. Sorry Tories, but you did this to yourselves.
Greens, LD, Labour and Workers Party all have local people (Merseyside area) standing.
The Conservative candidate however, assuming 'whocanivotefor' website is right, is from Kingston upon Thames - I mean - they're not even trying (then again, they didn't in 2019 either).
But as followers of the saga know all too well, all three main parties have dirty hands in this matter. You think they are going to find themselves guilty?
Defections might then probably follow.
I just don't see any advantage to building a bigger ship in LEO, rather than sending several small ships directly. You massively increase the complexity of the mission by trying to build things in orbit. Absurdly so.
Surely not? even T Blair couldn't oust the Tories in that part of Northumberland.
THURSDAY: Ross suffers combative meeting of the local Tory association
FRIDAY: Ross submits his candidate paperwork. For Reform.