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I’m sure he’s super invested in it but I’m sure he realised what a clusterfuck he was inheriting and the challenge ahead. It will be frustrating but as I said, it’s not as if his whole life and career has been politics and his other successes will soften the blow a lot. I imagine it was worse for Gordon Brown (and I’m no fan), it’s clearly driven Liz mad. All ex PMs deal with their failures differently and most seem to be ok - Blair went after the money to ease the pain, Cameron went after the money to ease the pain, May stayed solid and dull but contributed where she felt comfortable, Boris (guess what) went after the money to ease the pain. Rishi will be annoyed and wonder if he could have done things differently but he’s young and has many adventures and opportunities ahead but he was PM of the UK, not a bad result to tick off.ToryJim said:
Just because he has other things in life doesn’t mean he’s not invested in this. He’s also human and this must be a nightmare. I know he signed up for it but nobody expects the hurricane of shite Rishi has to deal with.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.2 -
And unless Starmer astonishes us all, he can wait a few years and then quietly point out what a horlicks his replacement made of the job.boulay said:
I’m sure he’s super invested in it but I’m sure he realised what a clusterfuck he was inheriting and the challenge ahead. It will be frustrating but as I said, it’s not as if his whole life and career has been politics and his other successes will soften the blow a lot. I imagine it was worse for Gordon Brown (and I’m no fan), it’s clearly driven Liz mad. All ex PMs deal with their failures differently and most seem to be ok - Blair went after the money to ease the pain, Cameron went after the money to ease the pain, May stayed solid and dull but contributed where she felt comfortable, Boris (guess what) went after the money to ease the pain. Rishi will be annoyed and wonder if he could have done things differently but he’s young and has many adventures and opportunities ahead but he was PM of the UK, not a bad result to tick off.ToryJim said:
Just because he has other things in life doesn’t mean he’s not invested in this. He’s also human and this must be a nightmare. I know he signed up for it but nobody expects the hurricane of shite Rishi has to deal with.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.0 -
Question. If you were on a Trump jury that found him guilty, and he subsequently became POTUS again, would you feel more or less 100% sure that Trump would not find a way (like as if he had Putin's powers and wishes) of getting back at you?0
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Only 5 more weeks of this bullshitBenpointer said:
Conversely, (PB) life is about to get much less enjoyable for us lefties.SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
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I don't think you want the EFF manifesto on your shortlist.algarkirk said:
Does anyone in the advanced western world have a coherent manifesto, covering all the essential ground, for a small government, non interfering, liberty loving, budget balancing, low spending way of running a large and complex country?Alanbrooke said:
It's not. It's big government, interfere in people's lives, spend money we havent got. Tories are the same.PJH said:
I don't know. The Labour Party looks like a rather conservative party to me. You might be surprised.Alanbrooke said:
A conservative government with actual conservative policies.Sunil_Prasannan said:
What would you like to replace said banger?Alanbrooke said:
ROFL.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming .
I don't know what is.
what madness, Youre getting rid of an old banger ( deservedly ) but have absolutely no idea of what is going to replace it. For an accountant the whole concept of due diligence seems to have passed you by.
That's not on offer either.0 -
Nothing that boot polish on the balls and toothpaste up the arse at boarding school after a spot of WinCoFo doesn't equip a man to be able to face in later life.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
Back in the real world, this twat strikes me as somebody who couldn't manage to have a conversation at a bus stop, if he even understands how bus stops work.0 -
Point of order: 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population leaves less than one person. You are literally saying he is the person on the planet with the greatest life ahead of him. And I think that is incorrect.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
You do know the "p" in "pb" stands for "pedant", right?4 -
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.0 -
I reckon there's more specific detail in that manifesto than we'll have in the Labour one.Foxy said:
Yes, but also rather Maoist.Dura_Ace said:
EFF are Fanonists. They correctly identify the problem with (white minority capitalism) and solution to (no white minority capitalism) to South Africa's problems.HYUFD said:
Except EFF are borderline Marxistsboulay said:…
Coming to a General Election near you soon, Liz Truss’ “Economic Freedom Fighters”.SeaShantyIrish2 said:South Africa 2024 General Election
with 29.5% reporting = 3,578,070 counted
African National Congress 1,519,417 42.5%
Democratic Alliance 897,332 25.1%
Economic Freedom Fighters 320,888 9.0%
uMkhonto weSizwe 309,037 8.6%
Patriotic Alliance 135,134 3.8%
Inkatha Freedom Party 78,751 2.0%
Freedom Front Plus 65,575 1.8%
45 other parties combined 251,936 7.0%
Although I like the party for people who are so drunk they can’t speak “uMkhonto weSizwe”. After the combined student and drunken gammon vote I guess.
Their manifesto is quite some read.
https://effonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/A5-EFF-2024-Manifesto-full-version.pdf
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Richi applied for the gig, and was beaten by a woman who lost to a lettuce.boulay said:Rishi will be annoyed and wonder if he could have done things differently but he’s young and has many adventures and opportunities ahead but he was PM of the UK, not a bad result to tick off.
He was then given the gig as a consolation prize.
That will not be his fondest memory.0 -
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https://x.com/marybsheridan/status/1795544200726933747
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He'll have way more important vendette to pursue than some scrandy from a jury. Prosecuting and/or indicting the Biden Crime Family for a start.algarkirk said:Question. If you were on a Trump jury that found him guilty, and he subsequently became POTUS again, would you feel more or less 100% sure that Trump would not find a way (like as if he had Putin's powers and wishes) of getting back at you?
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...says Conservative FC ultra, Casino RoyaleCasino_Royale said:.
When it comes down to it, you're just a football-team supporter of Labour.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.0 -
I chose that number precisely. Because there is someone who is a sperm at the moment who has a better future but otherwise Rishi has it sorted. I just and appreciate your pedantry and regret my maths.rcs1000 said:
Point of order: 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population leaves less than one person. You are literally saying he is the person on the planet with the greatest life ahead of him. And I think that is incorrect.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
You do know the "p" in "pb" stands for "pedant", right?1 -
Confident prediction.
In five weeks time, voting will be brisk.0 -
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.0 -
Blimey. Is that you DJ41?Jamarion said:
Nothing that boot polish on the balls and toothpaste up the arse at boarding school after a spot of WinCoFo doesn't equip a man to be able to face in later life.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
Back in the real world, this twat strikes me as somebody who couldn't manage to have a conversation at a bus stop, if he even understands how bus stops work.0 -
It runs to over 200 close printed pages so I am sure you are right.DM_Andy said:
I reckon there's more specific detail in that manifesto than we'll have in the Labour one.Foxy said:
Yes, but also rather Maoist.Dura_Ace said:
EFF are Fanonists. They correctly identify the problem with (white minority capitalism) and solution to (no white minority capitalism) to South Africa's problems.HYUFD said:
Except EFF are borderline Marxistsboulay said:…
Coming to a General Election near you soon, Liz Truss’ “Economic Freedom Fighters”.SeaShantyIrish2 said:South Africa 2024 General Election
with 29.5% reporting = 3,578,070 counted
African National Congress 1,519,417 42.5%
Democratic Alliance 897,332 25.1%
Economic Freedom Fighters 320,888 9.0%
uMkhonto weSizwe 309,037 8.6%
Patriotic Alliance 135,134 3.8%
Inkatha Freedom Party 78,751 2.0%
Freedom Front Plus 65,575 1.8%
45 other parties combined 251,936 7.0%
Although I like the party for people who are so drunk they can’t speak “uMkhonto weSizwe”. After the combined student and drunken gammon vote I guess.
Their manifesto is quite some read.
https://effonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/A5-EFF-2024-Manifesto-full-version.pdf
Few manifestos survive the impact of reality when in government.0 -
Any new opinion polls today?0
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Do you mean BRACES?Nigelb said:
Trousers are to be replaced ?Leon said:
You do realise there are *certain technological advancements* which make your anticipated contentment completely delusional?kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.
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That’s not going to prevent his pursuing anyone who’s ever slighted him.Dura_Ace said:
He'll have way more important vendette to pursue than some scrandy from a jury. Prosecuting and/or indicting the Biden Crime Family for a start.algarkirk said:Question. If you were on a Trump jury that found him guilty, and he subsequently became POTUS again, would you feel more or less 100% sure that Trump would not find a way (like as if he had Putin's powers and wishes) of getting back at you?
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Do we have any local Ashfield intelligence? Is it a four-way marginal, a three-way marginal or is Labour going to get a decent majority with 35% of the vote?0
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@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
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Essex will miss Lawrence but Pepper has been getting some game time, but none of the odds are that tempting at this stage at 7s for the 4 favourites. Any county could get lucky / unlucky with the weather, worth waiting until they've qualified.ydoethur said:Anyway, in important news:
Who do people favour for this year's hit and giggle?
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Hopefully, for Rishi, he can aspire to reposting tweets on PB and know he’s made it. Until then he will always have the spectre of not having been as successful as Scott_xP hovering over him.Scott_xP said:
Richi applied for the gig, and was beaten by a woman who lost to a lettuce.boulay said:Rishi will be annoyed and wonder if he could have done things differently but he’s young and has many adventures and opportunities ahead but he was PM of the UK, not a bad result to tick off.
He was then given the gig as a consolation prize.
That will not be his fondest memory.1 -
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/17962313704545161820 -
If you're looking for local Ashfield intelligence, don't bother asking their current MP.DM_Andy said:Do we have any local Ashfield intelligence? Is it a four-way marginal, a three-way marginal or is Labour going to get a decent majority with 35% of the vote?
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Five more weeks? God, it's like waiting for Christmas as a kid.dixiedean said:Confident prediction.
In five weeks time, voting will be brisk.0 -
https://x.com/damocrat/status/1796179586536882340@BethRigbyWhen I talked about Starmer falling under the Labour battlebus this morning, I didn't expect Rayner to take up that as a suggestion.
: “You’ve been benched at bit, but you’re back.”
@AngelaRayner
: “I’m back and I’m powering up the battle bus.”
“An Angie Rayner battle bus is about to be unleashed?”
“I have got an Angie Rayner battle bus. Yes. You’re gonna love it. It’s got a fridge.”0 -
Take this in:
- A key Starmer ally spent his adult life craving a parliamentary seat in Brighton
- He knew he would never win support from local members
- On the eve of the election, a Brighton MP suddenly has a complaint made against him, allowing Ward to take his seat.
https://x.com/owenjones84/status/17961872380001282721 -
That's rather brilliant 👏 👏 👏Scott_xP said:His staff really do hate him
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I forsee it being steady rather than brisk.dixiedean said:Confident prediction.
In five weeks time, voting will be brisk.0 -
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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Sluggish in the burbs.Fairliered said:
I forsee it being steady rather than brisk.dixiedean said:Confident prediction.
In five weeks time, voting will be brisk.0 -
prescientFoxy said:
That's rather brilliant 👏 👏 👏Scott_xP said:His staff really do hate him
https://x.com/biscuit_ersed/status/1796227200305205258
https://x.com/BrookesTimes/status/17960882850573890090 -
In the past five weeks over 1% of Tory MP's have defected.Benpointer said:
Five more weeks? God, it's like waiting for Christmas as a kid.dixiedean said:Confident prediction.
In five weeks time, voting will be brisk.0 -
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.
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As another Tory joins Starmer Labour, another leftwinger leaves it
'@vmv71241
I’ve been a member of the Labour Party for 17 years. Today, I’ve cancelled my membership. As yet, I don’t know who I’m going to vote for but I certainly cannot fund a racist and sexist organisation.'
https://x.com/vmv71241/status/17960861411473411660 -
This is quite brilliant in relation to LRM
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Was the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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Not always, 1997-2001 or 1983-1987 were pretty strong governments with huge majorities and weak oppositionGIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
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I've signed up to LuckyGuy's 'every day is Friday' conspiracy theory.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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It certainly seems like a bit of a Mickey Mouse operation.Foxy said:
That's rather brilliant 👏 👏 👏Scott_xP said:His staff really do hate him
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Techne tracker should drop at some point this evening, tomorrow I imagine Survation and WeThink and another YouGov.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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He said that Friday, I believe.Benpointer said:
I've signed up to LuckyGuy's 'every day is Friday' conspiracy theory.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
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Mad maybe but more passion than I have ever seen Sir Keir musterToryJim said:This is quite brilliant in relation to LRM
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Agree about 83-87 but 97-01 saw Blair very quickly losing touch with reality and becoming over-confident and arrogant.HYUFD said:
Not always, 1997-2001 or 1983-1987 were pretty strong governments with huge majorities and weak oppositionGIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.
All the warning signs for what Blair and new Labour were morphing into were there by the end of that first Parliament, which is why I sat out the 2001 election (the only general election where I didn't vote) as the Tories were a shambles but Blair was clearly becoming an egomaniac and getting out of control.0 -
When was that?GIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.0 -
Never had you down as an Owen Jones admirer.CarlottaVance said:Take this in:
- A key Starmer ally spent his adult life craving a parliamentary seat in Brighton
- He knew he would never win support from local members
- On the eve of the election, a Brighton MP suddenly has a complaint made against him, allowing Ward to take his seat.
https://x.com/owenjones84/status/1796187238000128272
PS the first sentences is patently bullshit - why would anyone crave a parliamentary seat in one city and one city only?0 -
No it was the day before that: on Friday.viewcode said:
He said that Friday, I believe.Benpointer said:
I've signed up to LuckyGuy's 'every day is Friday' conspiracy theory.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
0 -
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.1 -
Perhaps Diane Abbott could launch the UK version.Foxy said:
Yes, but also rather Maoist.Dura_Ace said:
EFF are Fanonists. They correctly identify the problem with (white minority capitalism) and solution to (no white minority capitalism) to South Africa's problems.HYUFD said:
Except EFF are borderline Marxistsboulay said:…
Coming to a General Election near you soon, Liz Truss’ “Economic Freedom Fighters”.SeaShantyIrish2 said:South Africa 2024 General Election
with 29.5% reporting = 3,578,070 counted
African National Congress 1,519,417 42.5%
Democratic Alliance 897,332 25.1%
Economic Freedom Fighters 320,888 9.0%
uMkhonto weSizwe 309,037 8.6%
Patriotic Alliance 135,134 3.8%
Inkatha Freedom Party 78,751 2.0%
Freedom Front Plus 65,575 1.8%
45 other parties combined 251,936 7.0%
Although I like the party for people who are so drunk they can’t speak “uMkhonto weSizwe”. After the combined student and drunken gammon vote I guess.
Their manifesto is quite some read.
https://effonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/A5-EFF-2024-Manifesto-full-version.pdf0 -
I'd be very surprised if the gap doesn't close by a few percent in the coming days. All the Abbott noise will have an impact in the sort term imo.wooliedyed said:
Techne tracker should drop at some point this evening, tomorrow I imagine Survation and WeThink and another YouGov.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
0 -
But you voted for Thatcher in 87?GIN1138 said:
Agree about 83-87 but 97-01 saw Blair very quickly losing touch with reality and becoming over-confident and arrogant.HYUFD said:
Not always, 1997-2001 or 1983-1987 were pretty strong governments with huge majorities and weak oppositionGIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.
All the warning signs for what Blair and new Labour were morphing into were there by the end of that first Parliament, which is why I sat out the 2001 election (the only general election where I didn't vote) as the Tories were a shambles but Blair was clearly becoming an egomaniac and getting out of control.0 -
Labour have also ticked up to a higher plateau recently so a fall off/back may be a natural movementBenpointer said:
I'd be very surprised if the gap doesn't close by a few percent in the coming days. All the Abbott noise will have an impact in the sort term imo.wooliedyed said:
Techne tracker should drop at some point this evening, tomorrow I imagine Survation and WeThink and another YouGov.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
0 -
2019? 🤣Benpointer said:
When was that?GIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.0 -
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go of his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.0 -
@PeoplesMomentum
·
19h
The message from Keir Starmer couldn't be clearer:
If you're left-wing, if you're a woman of colour, if you speak your own mind -
Then you're not welcome. Disgusting.
https://x.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/17959463879070068150 -
No, I'm not that old lol! 😂Benpointer said:
But you voted for Thatcher in 87?GIN1138 said:
Agree about 83-87 but 97-01 saw Blair very quickly losing touch with reality and becoming over-confident and arrogant.HYUFD said:
Not always, 1997-2001 or 1983-1987 were pretty strong governments with huge majorities and weak oppositionGIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.
All the warning signs for what Blair and new Labour were morphing into were there by the end of that first Parliament, which is why I sat out the 2001 election (the only general election where I didn't vote) as the Tories were a shambles but Blair was clearly becoming an egomaniac and getting out of control.
My first election was 1997, when I voted Labour. 1 -
It’s his home town? Jones is a (I suspect former) personal friend, so may have more insight?Benpointer said:
PS the first sentences is patently bullshit - why would anyone crave a parliamentary seat in one city and one city only?CarlottaVance said:Take this in:
- A key Starmer ally spent his adult life craving a parliamentary seat in Brighton
- He knew he would never win support from local members
- On the eve of the election, a Brighton MP suddenly has a complaint made against him, allowing Ward to take his seat.
https://x.com/owenjones84/status/1796187238000128272
0 -
Sam Freedman says 'he's never seen anything like it' over Logan etc
Change UK ring any bells? The 2019 multi Party multi flounce?1 -
…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.2 -
Thatcher was also losing touch with reality after ‘87.GIN1138 said:
No, I'm not that old lol! 😂Benpointer said:
But you voted for Thatcher in 87?GIN1138 said:
Agree about 83-87 but 97-01 saw Blair very quickly losing touch with reality and becoming over-confident and arrogant.HYUFD said:
Not always, 1997-2001 or 1983-1987 were pretty strong governments with huge majorities and weak oppositionGIN1138 said:
I do think it's in everyone's interests that the Tories recover some semblance of sanity so they can be a credible opposition to the government.numbertwelve said:
Meh, I’m sorta over the Tories. They’ve had a good run, they went batshit and awful at the end. If they come to their senses maybe they can offer me a political home again, if not maybe I can stick with Labour depending on how SKS gets on or maybe there’ll be a new right wing outfit to get behind. It’s quite an exciting time for our politics really.GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but will there be a Conservative Party left?SandyRentool said:There is a thread of bitterness running through the Conservative contributors to PB.
Cheer up comrades; in just over a month's time you can start to enjoy yourselves slagging off the government.
Generally when one party has a big majority and no opposition it makes for poor government, IMO.
All the warning signs for what Blair and new Labour were morphing into were there by the end of that first Parliament, which is why I sat out the 2001 election (the only general election where I didn't vote) as the Tories were a shambles but Blair was clearly becoming an egomaniac and getting out of control.
My first election was 1997, when I voted Labour.1 -
OTOH, he’ll have the satisfaction of being first to post the news about Starmer reapplying for EU membership…boulay said:…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.0 -
Oh, that Friday. I thought you meant Friday Friday. Sorry for the confusion.Benpointer said:
No it was the day before that: on Friday.viewcode said:
He said that Friday, I believe.Benpointer said:
I've signed up to LuckyGuy's 'every day is Friday' conspiracy theory.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
1 -
They were starting to get there under Michael Howard, who I always quite liked... but no. I actually voted Lib-Dem in 2005 as I liked Charlie and thought they should be rewarded for their principled (and correct) stance over Iraq.tlg86 said:@GIN1138 - Were the Tories thinking what you were thinking in 2005?
My voting record is:
1997 - Lab
2001 - Didn't Vote
2005 - Lib
2010 - Con
2015 - Con
2017 - Con (but only because Labour was being led by Jezza. Theresa was H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. in that campaign)
2019 - Con
And now 2024.... LAB2 -
I find that accusations of racism or homophobia from the Labour left to be so utterly implausible so as to make me want to ignore their claims of unfair treatment entirely.HYUFD said:@PeoplesMomentum
·
19h
The message from Keir Starmer couldn't be clearer:
If you're left-wing, if you're a woman of colour, if you speak your own mind -
Then you're not welcome. Disgusting.
https://x.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1795946387907006815
It's obvious the removal of left wing candidates is because they are left wing and Starmer wants to remove future internal headaches within the party before he becomes PM.
It's also probably the case he's misjudged on Diane Abbot who seems to be getting a fair bit of sympathy.
But calling it racism is just puerile.0 -
I'm not sure Starmer will be too worried by the far-left publicly railing against him (again).1
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No chance of that. Starmer isn't going to give away any power once he's acquired it.Nigelb said:
OTOH, he’ll have the satisfaction of being first to post the news about Starmer reapplying for EU membership…boulay said:…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.
Expect to see him ruthlessly purge the British state of any deviationist factions.0 -
He will even fail at that. Someone who actually does something will hear it before him and post it here.Nigelb said:
OTOH, he’ll have the satisfaction of being first to post the news about Starmer reapplying for EU membership…boulay said:…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.
It’s been the best possible opening for brilliant people like Scott to stand to be an MP and make a difference, stun us with his ideas, lead the country to a brighter future. Or just shitpost on PB.0 -
Not sure about that. I think his clearing out the deadwood will go down well with floating voters desperate for competent government. But let's see.Benpointer said:
I'd be very surprised if the gap doesn't close by a few percent in the coming days. All the Abbott noise will have an impact in the sort term imo.wooliedyed said:
Techne tracker should drop at some point this evening, tomorrow I imagine Survation and WeThink and another YouGov.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
0 -
He'll still be railing at Starmer until we rejoin the EU....GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go of his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.1 -
Yet when the small swing towards Labour since the election was called gets unwound, there will be much more excitement and extrapolation of trends...wooliedyed said:
Labour have also ticked up to a higher plateau recently so a fall off/back may be a natural movementBenpointer said:
I'd be very surprised if the gap doesn't close by a few percent in the coming days. All the Abbott noise will have an impact in the sort term imo.wooliedyed said:
Techne tracker should drop at some point this evening, tomorrow I imagine Survation and WeThink and another YouGov.GIN1138 said:
Yes, More In Common was yesterday... And it's Thursday actuallyBenpointer said:
What the More in Common yesterday? I'm losing track and it's only Friday.GIN1138 said:
No. Thought we might get the first IPSOS of the campaign today but nothing so far...LostPassword said:Any new opinion polls today?
1 -
C'mon NY jurors, ring that bell twice...0
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Confirms the old mantra there is only one thing worse for the left than a Labour leader who loses a general election (at least their heart was in the right place), namely a Labour leader who can win a general electionBenpointer said:I'm not sure Starmer will be too worried by the far-left publicly railing against him (again).
1 -
Hell no. Sometimes for these people with these obsessions it becomes their raison d’etre.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go of his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.2 -
It's also extremely rich given the far left's record on racism, both on antisemitism and how they treat those - either from the Labour centre or Tory - who fail to sing their tunes. Remember Faiza Shaheen and Ash Sarkar joking around saying Sajid Javid obviously didn't like spicy food. Or Emma Dent Coad calling Shaun Bailey a "token ghetto boy".Ratters said:
I find that accusations of racism or homophobia from the Labour left to be so utterly implausible so as to make me want to ignore their claims of unfair treatment entirely.HYUFD said:@PeoplesMomentum
·
19h
The message from Keir Starmer couldn't be clearer:
If you're left-wing, if you're a woman of colour, if you speak your own mind -
Then you're not welcome. Disgusting.
https://x.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1795946387907006815
It's obvious the removal of left wing candidates is because they are left wing and Starmer wants to remove future internal headaches within the party before he becomes PM.
It's also probably the case he's misjudged on Diane Abbot who seems to be getting a fair bit of sympathy.
But calling it racism is just puerile.
Now I'm not a fan of either of them, but it's revealing of the speaker's attitude how they choose to talk about those who have their own views different to the approved ones.3 -
.
Yeah, but I don't talk about a Conservative victory like a permanent 10-year orgasm.Benpointer said:
...says Conservative FC ultra, Casino RoyaleCasino_Royale said:.
When it comes down to it, you're just a football-team supporter of Labour.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.
Nor did I big-up Corbyn with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo and then pretend SKS was just as frickin' good when it didn't work out.0 -
Breaking: Starmer has just applied for UK to re-join the EU!boulay said:
He will even fail at that. Someone who actually does something will hear it before him and post it here.Nigelb said:
OTOH, he’ll have the satisfaction of being first to post the news about Starmer reapplying for EU membership…boulay said:…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.
It’s been the best possible opening for brilliant people like Scott to stand to be an MP and make a difference, stun us with his ideas, lead the country to a brighter future. Or just shitpost on PB.
[Thought I'd get in first, for the record.]0 -
My constituencies voted in are - Southampton Test, South Norfolk, Witham, South Norfolk, Mid Norfolk, Broadland, Norwich South (x3 incl this one)GIN1138 said:
They were starting to get there... but no. I actually voted Lib-Dem in 2005 as I liked Charlie and thought they should be rewarded over their principled stance over Iraq.tlg86 said:@GIN1138 - Were the Tories thinking what you were thinking in 2005?
My voting record is:
1997 - Lab
2001 - Didn't Vote
2005 - Lib
2010 - Con
2015 - Con
2017 - Con (but only because Labour was being led by Jezza. Theresa was H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. in that campaign)
2019 - Con
And now 2024.... LAB2 -
You’ve changed your avatar. No more Herbie.MarqueeMark said:
He'll still be railing at Starmer until we rejoin the EU....GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go of his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.0 -
Wait till you've been in opposition for 14 years!Casino_Royale said:.
Yeah, but I don't talk about a Conservative victory like a permanent 10-year orgasm.Benpointer said:
...says Conservative FC ultra, Casino RoyaleCasino_Royale said:.
When it comes down to it, you're just a football-team supporter of Labour.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.
Nor did I big-up Corbyn with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo and then pretend SKS was just as frickin' good when it didn't work out.0 -
I have voted in every GE since 1979 and only once voted for the person who won the seat (in 2005). Basically, if you want to be MP you're better off without my vote.wooliedyed said:
My constituencies voted in are - Southampton Test, South Norfolk, Witham, South Norfolk, Mid Norfolk, Broadland, Norwich South (x3 incl this one)GIN1138 said:
They were starting to get there... but no. I actually voted Lib-Dem in 2005 as I liked Charlie and thought they should be rewarded over their principled stance over Iraq.tlg86 said:@GIN1138 - Were the Tories thinking what you were thinking in 2005?
My voting record is:
1997 - Lab
2001 - Didn't Vote
2005 - Lib
2010 - Con
2015 - Con
2017 - Con (but only because Labour was being led by Jezza. Theresa was H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. in that campaign)
2019 - Con
And now 2024.... LAB1 -
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Been there, done that, got the T-shirt mate.Benpointer said:
Wait till you've been in opposition for 14 years!Casino_Royale said:.
Yeah, but I don't talk about a Conservative victory like a permanent 10-year orgasm.Benpointer said:
...says Conservative FC ultra, Casino RoyaleCasino_Royale said:.
When it comes down to it, you're just a football-team supporter of Labour.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.
Nor did I big-up Corbyn with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo and then pretend SKS was just as frickin' good when it didn't work out.0 -
It's perfectly possible he tries that.Benpointer said:
Breaking: Starmer has just applied for UK to re-join the EU!boulay said:
He will even fail at that. Someone who actually does something will hear it before him and post it here.Nigelb said:
OTOH, he’ll have the satisfaction of being first to post the news about Starmer reapplying for EU membership…boulay said:…
He’s too busy being a high achiever to waste time letting go of his bitterness. That’s time he could have spent in the corridors of power, making a difference, being successful. Better off reposting tweets.GIN1138 said:
Will Scott finally stop his 8 year sulk and let go his bitterness once Election 24 is over? 🙏Taz said:
Scott does.GIN1138 said:
Nobody cares about Rishi's travel arrangements?Scott_xP said:@mikeysmith
STORY
Rishi Sunak caught taking private helicopter flight home hours after gushing about train travel
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/1796227395650744553
@DPMcBride
The little stool for getting on and off is very sweet.
https://x.com/DPMcBride/status/1796231370454516182
So nobody of any consequence.
It’s been the best possible opening for brilliant people like Scott to stand to be an MP and make a difference, stun us with his ideas, lead the country to a brighter future. Or just shitpost on PB.
[Thought I'd get in first, for the record.]
No-one has a clue what he's going to do, or what will renege on, except the shit policies he really seems to care about - like eviscerating our education sector.0 -
Five weeks, two hours and 40 minutes until the exit poll.0
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13 years shirley?Casino_Royale said:.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt mate.Benpointer said:
Wait till you've been in opposition for 14 years!Casino_Royale said:.
Yeah, but I don't talk about a Conservative victory like a permanent 10-year orgasm.Benpointer said:
...says Conservative FC ultra, Casino RoyaleCasino_Royale said:.
When it comes down to it, you're just a football-team supporter of Labour.kinabalu said:
I'm not so underwhelmed. July 5th will be a great day because we’ll have a Labour government after all these years of the Conservatives. Yes, the policies, and we’ll see what they are in due course, once the election is over, however it’s mainly about the overall ambience of things when you have Labour in office rather than the Tories. It’s a 24/7 source of quiet contentment, a pleasant background hum, always there, bringing comfort on a bad day, a little extra spice to a good one. It isn’t something you think about often, that Labour’s in power, but this is the point, you don’t need to always be thinking about it because you kind of know that all is ok and in order. If a Tory government is like having a stone in your shoe, which it is, a Labour government is like wearing a well-cut pair of trousers. So this is what I can (figuratively) look forward to now. Several years, perhaps a decade or more, of walking around in a well-cut pair of trousers. If that's not anico679 said:
What do you mean starting to ! LolAlanbrooke said:Starmer starting to look shifty
Everyone knows I’d have been much happier with Angela Rayner as leader . I want rid of the Tories and will be tactically voting Lib Dem in Eastbourne but really this feels nothing like 1997 .
Maybe I’m just a bit too old and bitter and cynical now but it’s all so underwhelming . I don't know what is.
Nor did I big-up Corbyn with some pseudo-intellectual mumbo-jumbo and then pretend SKS was just as frickin' good when it didn't work out.0 -
All over the place. Too much gin, Gin?GIN1138 said:
They were starting to get there under Michael Howard, who I always quite liked... but no. I actually voted Lib-Dem in 2005 as I liked Charlie and thought they should be rewarded for their principled (and correct) stance over Iraq.tlg86 said:@GIN1138 - Were the Tories thinking what you were thinking in 2005?
My voting record is:
1997 - Lab
2001 - Didn't Vote
2005 - Lib
2010 - Con
2015 - Con
2017 - Con (but only because Labour was being led by Jezza. Theresa was H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. in that campaign)
2019 - Con
And now 2024.... LAB1 -
As opposed to Easthampton, North Suffolk, West Eaffolk, North Southam, Mid Midsex, Long Borough, Longboro, Outer Inbridge, Broadmouth and Westleigh, and the Wrekin.wooliedyed said:
My constituencies voted in are - Southampton Test, South Norfolk, Witham, South Norfolk, Mid Norfolk, Broadland, Norwich South (x3 incl this one)GIN1138 said:
They were starting to get there... but no. I actually voted Lib-Dem in 2005 as I liked Charlie and thought they should be rewarded over their principled stance over Iraq.tlg86 said:@GIN1138 - Were the Tories thinking what you were thinking in 2005?
My voting record is:
1997 - Lab
2001 - Didn't Vote
2005 - Lib
2010 - Con
2015 - Con
2017 - Con (but only because Labour was being led by Jezza. Theresa was H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. in that campaign)
2019 - Con
And now 2024.... LAB2 -
No it doesn't.rcs1000 said:
Point of order: 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population leaves less than one person. You are literally saying he is the person on the planet with the greatest life ahead of him. And I think that is incorrect.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
You do know the "p" in "pb" stands for "pedant", right?
It stands for 'pedantic.'6 -
That should be one sentence with the two phrases separated by a semi-colon, just saying.ydoethur said:
No it doesn't.rcs1000 said:
Point of order: 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population leaves less than one person. You are literally saying he is the person on the planet with the greatest life ahead of him. And I think that is incorrect.boulay said:
I don’t think it will affect him too much - it’s not his one thing in life, it’s not the whole summation of his success or failure. When this goes tits up he’s still been Chancellor of the Exchequer, PM by mid forties, made millions in a career he was obviously successful at, married a billionairess, an amazing educational experience in different places and seems to have a happy marriage and lovely children. He has an incredible life ahead of him, more so than 99.999999999999999% of the world’s population and I think his tiggerish persona and desire to achieve will put it all in perspective.ToryJim said:Just catching up with the defection of Mark Logan. I hope he’s already cleared out his office as I suspect his former colleagues will probably want to lynch him if they bump into him.
I suspect that this campaign is going to age Rishi by about 25 years. He might not be the most capable politician but he doesn’t exactly deserve this.
If he was a politician whose existence had been Uni, Spad, MP, shadow Cabinet, government and then it fell apart on their watch and was all they knew then bitterness would follow but I think Rishi will be ok.
You do know the "p" in "pb" stands for "pedant", right?
It stands for 'pedantic.'2
