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  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 18,554
    LOL! Presumably the Knighthoods will be staying on ice for now?

    Talk about counting your chickens before they've hatched?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 47,610
    Good to see England players hugging Sako
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426

    I'm done with international football.

    Always break my heart.

    An old Scottish boss of mine who was a living breathing Celtic obsessive told me that he never watches internationals. Why? Because Scotland were shite...
  • The better side won.

    Night all.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 38,177

    When your keeper saves 2 and you still lose, that's a bit shit

    Poor penalties have been common lately
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 11,630
    YAAAAAY
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 21,225
    If Rashford and Sancho took penalties like that I’m training, they shouldn’t have been anywhere near the pitch.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010
    Better side one, but real kick in the nuts.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 1,615
    Ah well - to be fair, no one expected the finals
  • borisatsunborisatsun Posts: 188
    I’m taking a knee for all the penalty failures
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426
    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Yep. Thats precisely why he missed. Don't worry, when you're on here saying why its keeping WWC kids hungry is in their best interests, you can blame Rashford.
  • Have to feel for Pickford there
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 11,338
    Foxy said:

    What crap subs.

    Maybe if they'd come on a bit earlier they might have got their eye in.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 14,687
    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 47,610
    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You are completely ridiculous and even tonight you cannot help making a fool of yourself
  • RogerRoger Posts: 15,251
    Fair enough. Italy were the best team in the competition. Strange decision to bring players on in the last five minutes to do pens
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010
    IanB2 said:

    Those two substitutions were a waste of time

    Southgate's going to get that a lot from now on. Holding them back until then just seemed strange, were they really that much better at taking penalties on paper? Might not have mattered, but that's life.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 34,991

    True.


    Too far
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 43,979
    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 22,283

    Smart move with the subs, not

    Thought - have Rashford and Sancho had a kick while they were on ?

    I know they're good at penalties but you'd still want to kick the ball a bit before you took a penalty.
  • I love Italy, love Italians, love the way they play under Mancini. They deserved it.

    But we had a very good run. Far too defensive at times: that was our undoing. Sitting back. Not playing adventurously. We can take a leaf out of the Italians' book on that.

    Boris' luck ran out?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010

    Have to feel for Pickford there

    Did his job.

    Not good penalty taking, despite all the practice. A lot of 'great' saves in shootouts are anything but, it's players not getting it far enough in the corner or high enough.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,090
    Overall best team won the tournament.

    Hopefully the idiots tonight near the ground and across the land don't cause too much chaos.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 28,713

    Smart move with the subs, not

    Thought - have Rashford and Sancho had a kick while they were on ?

    I know they're good at penalties but you'd still want to kick the ball a bit before you took a penalty.
    Rashford was surprisingly good as right back.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 18,554
    England were sorting out the Knighthoods. England were planning the bank holiday celebrations.

    Only trouble is they forgot to win the match! :D
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 34,991

    Foxy said:

    What crap subs.

    Maybe if they'd come on a bit earlier they might have got their eye in.
    :#
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 11,630
    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 69,296
    Why was Saka taking the 5th ?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426
    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 47,610

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    Absolutely agree

    Such a crass and stupid comment
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 17,587
    Wouldn’t have been football if we’d won
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 39,106
    So near and yet so far...
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 22,283
    Andy_JS said:

    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.

    The alternative would be take the penalties after 90 minutes and then play extra time - the team which lost the shootout then has to win in the 30 minutes.

    If that had happened today I think Italy would have got another goal in extra time.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 14,687

    And cue the fucking riots.

    Send in the water cannons if so.
  • eekeek Posts: 17,391

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    That was the political career that was..
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    In Boris Johnson's Tory party? He'll get a Baronetcy and a seat in the Cabinet.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 15,251
    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    LOL If we didn't have a crap government he wouldn't have had to spend so much time campaigning!.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010
    GIN1138 said:

    England were sorting out the Knighthoods. England were planning the bank holiday celebrations.

    Only trouble is they forgot to win the match! :D

    Good japes, except of course the people making preparations for a win have nothing to do with pitch performance - who doesn't do preparation in the event you win? Lot of 'Italy 2020 Champion' scarves in production could equally have been for naught.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 28,713
    Pulpstar said:

    Why was Saka taking the 5th ?

    Grealish takes a good penalty.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 26,500

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Bollocks comment.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 17,162
    Pulpstar said:

    Why was Saka taking the 5th ?

    To avoid incriminating himself?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 32,892
    We stayed in our own half for the second half. We missed three penalties.

    Both not acceptable.
  • eekeek Posts: 17,391
    Andy_JS said:

    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.

    Golden goal was tried and that failed.

    The only other option would be a replay - and I don't think that's practical.
  • I think what is to be taken is that we must not let these games go to penalties
  • HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    Is HYUFD a councillor or MP or something?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 35,098

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    I gave you a like, but I’m guessing that HYUFD was attempting (and missing) a bit of humour ?
    We’ve all been there.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 15,251
    If only we'd stayed in the EU one of our teams would have just won the Euros!
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 34,991
    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Doubt it in Glasgow, they will sell out in the celebrations.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 11,630

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    Looks harsh but fair to me.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 26,500

    I’m taking a knee for all the penalty failures

    Oh you utter prick.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 13,583
    edited July 2021

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    Whoever has flagged you is our of order because HYUFD made a really foolish comment under the circumstances.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,126
    Roger said:

    Fair enough. Italy were the best team in the competition. Strange decision to bring players on in the last five minutes to do pens

    Not sure why Sterling or Shaw weren't taking penalties. Aren't Saka and Sancho the two youngest players on the pitch? But England didn't create enough chances in the second half, the better team won.
  • TOPPING said:

    We stayed in our own half for the second half.

    Yeah we really did. From about the 30th minute. Pretty dreadful to be honest.

    The better side won I'm afraid.
  • borisatsunborisatsun Posts: 188
    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot
  • Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    I gave you a like, but I’m guessing that HYUFD was attempting (and missing) a bit of humour ?
    We’ve all been there.
    HYUFD was born without a sense of humour, as seen by many of his posts on Scotland.

    I was prepared to just these things be but after that comment, bollocks to it.

    What a twat
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426
    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Yep. I said to Mrs RP earlier looking at the awful lunatics trashing London hours before kick-off that there would be fucking riots if Italy win.

    I hope not. But there are a decent number of football "fans" enjoy mindless ultraviolence as much as they do the football. And enjoy bigotry as much as the next BNP supporter. So yes. Smash up the Italians because they have stolen it. And attack anyone with forrin skin and / or names because look at the migrants who just let England down.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010

    I think what is to be taken is that we must not let these games go to penalties

    Really every team should take that lesson anyway - you never know what might happen in a penalty shootout.

    And to be fair England picked up in the second half of extra time a little. But the temptation to not risk anything is very high.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 47,610

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    Can you just for once stop your constant bile
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 28,713
    I commented to Mrs Foxy that going a goal up very early is tough to defend. Defending for 88 min is tough. Needed to score a second.

    Ah well. Bring on Qatar...

  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 11,630
    malcolmg said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Doubt it in Glasgow, they will sell out in the celebrations.
    :lol:
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    Don't be stupid
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 34,991
    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    I gave you a like, but I’m guessing that HYUFD was attempting (and missing) a bit of humour ?
    We’ve all been there.
    Yes , HYFUD taking it like a man.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    Not cool.
  • borisatsunborisatsun Posts: 188
    kinabalu said:

    I’m taking a knee for all the penalty failures

    Oh you utter prick.
    I love you so much x
  • CookieCookie Posts: 5,085
    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.

    Golden goal was tried and that failed.

    The only other option would be a replay - and I don't think that's practical.
    Basically what's needed is a higher scoring sport which doesn't end in a draw, and where the rules are designed to discourage cheating. Rugby, perhaps. Or cricket.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 22,283
    kle4 said:

    Have to feel for Pickford there

    Did his job.

    Not good penalty taking, despite all the practice. A lot of 'great' saves in shootouts are anything but, it's players not getting it far enough in the corner or high enough.
    Maguire's was the best penalty.

    Aim at a corner and kick if with maximum power.

    All the stuttering run ups cause a loss of power.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    Is HYUFD a councillor or MP or something?
    A councillor and Chair of Epping Forest Essicks Massiv Conservative Association
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 14,687
    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    I hope this doesn't happen but if it does the culprits ought to feel the full force of the law.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 99,406
    edited July 2021
    On the plus side, very profitable night and tournament for me.

    Laying England for a tournament is free money.

    Never in doubt.
  • Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Yep. I said to Mrs RP earlier looking at the awful lunatics trashing London hours before kick-off that there would be fucking riots if Italy win.

    I hope not. But there are a decent number of football "fans" enjoy mindless ultraviolence as much as they do the football. And enjoy bigotry as much as the next BNP supporter. So yes. Smash up the Italians because they have stolen it. And attack anyone with forrin skin and / or names because look at the migrants who just let England down.
    Honestly - what on earth is wrong with you
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 26,500
    Sick as a parrot basically. But what a great tournament.
  • Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 43,979

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    The criticism I've seen on Twitter and online is that they were young kids who hadn't kicked the ball all game and put under too much pressure with just a couple of minutes on the field.

    Don't project your own prejudices onto others.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 35,865
    Oh dear, so what exactly was the point of making those two substitutions with seconds of extra time left?

    55 years of hurt, and counting.
  • Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 42,445
    edited July 2021
    While I'm sad England lost, Italy played better tonight.

    On to Qatar and World Cup Glory!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 30,826
    Anyway, now can the enigma of the tournament be solved.

    What the fuck is going on with Rio’s beard?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 13,583

    kle4 said:

    Have to feel for Pickford there

    Did his job.

    Not good penalty taking, despite all the practice. A lot of 'great' saves in shootouts are anything but, it's players not getting it far enough in the corner or high enough.
    Maguire's was the best penalty.

    Aim at a corner and kick if with maximum power.

    All the stuttering run ups cause a loss of power.
    Fantastic penalty from McGuire.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 18,326
    Looks like football was being delivered by Hermes.
    https://twitter.com/donaeldunready/status/1414345439126634496
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 70,010

    kle4 said:

    Have to feel for Pickford there

    Did his job.

    Not good penalty taking, despite all the practice. A lot of 'great' saves in shootouts are anything but, it's players not getting it far enough in the corner or high enough.
    Maguire's was the best penalty.

    Aim at a corner and kick if with maximum power.

    All the stuttering run ups cause a loss of power.
    Stuttering has never seemed worth it to me. Ok, the keeper may move too soon if you do, but if you hit it well them guessing the right way won't matter. And if you do it too often they will start to wait for you, and if your placement and power aren't great (many 'great' penalties are not, they would be easily savable if the keeper guesses right) now they have a chance.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 43,979
    kinabalu said:

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Bollocks comment.
    No, it's factually accurate.

    We won that 4-2 in play. If we were that good and deserved to win we would have scored 2-1 or 3-1 against Italy.
  • Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    It's not obvious to me. Who are you suggesting? All the names look familiar to me.

    HYUFD made a slightly wild comment but don't hound him off the board. That's a feeble thing to do. We don't just want like minded robots on here, surely?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 15,426
    Floater said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Yep. I said to Mrs RP earlier looking at the awful lunatics trashing London hours before kick-off that there would be fucking riots if Italy win.

    I hope not. But there are a decent number of football "fans" enjoy mindless ultraviolence as much as they do the football. And enjoy bigotry as much as the next BNP supporter. So yes. Smash up the Italians because they have stolen it. And attack anyone with forrin skin and / or names because look at the migrants who just let England down.
    Honestly - what on earth is wrong with you
    I have eyes and a brain. Is what I posted most England fans? No. Is it the racist infestation that they are taking the knee against? Yes. They couldn't behave before the game. Why expect them to behave now?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 5,450

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    Which one 😀
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,090

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    Made the final in one of the two tournaments this country can play in.

    He's not going anywhere.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 18,326
    ITV score another victory...
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 11,630
    Andy_JS said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    I hope this doesn't happen but if it does the culprits ought to feel the full force of the law.
    No shit

    And Southgate's contribution with the ww2 talk should be recognised.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 2,120
    Weirdly, in the long run England scoring so early was probably a negative on balance in terms of how it affected how they approached the game after that.
  • borisatsunborisatsun Posts: 188
    kinabalu said:

    I’m taking a knee for all the penalty failures

    Oh you utter prick.
    I love you so much x
    kle4 said:

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    Not cool.
    What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Its been said that our country needed this cup run after going through Covid and the lads have done well and its been great to have the Final.

    Italy are the country that probably needed the cup more than we did, that have been hit hardest this past year and a half. As disappointed as I am to lose, happy for them that they've got this.

    Roll on 2022 World Cup now. Hopefully it can be like 2018 and 2019 Champions League finals.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 5,085

    No negative comments to make, the lads have done us proud.

    Fair play and well done to the Italians.

    Yes, it was actually the best England performance in my lifetime. They didn't win. But they might have done; and if they had, it wouldn't be because they had fluked it.

    Still. That is the best England will ever do in my lifetime. All downhill from here, sadly.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 13,583

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    I gave you a like, but I’m guessing that HYUFD was attempting (and missing) a bit of humour ?
    We’ve all been there.
    HYUFD was born without a sense of humour, as seen by many of his posts on Scotland.

    I was prepared to just these things be but after that comment, bollocks to it.

    What a twat
    Careful.
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