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The 2020 Euro final thread – politicalbetting.com

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edited July 11 in General
The 2020 Euro final thread – politicalbetting.com

A matchday like no other.? Italy? #EURO2020 final? @wembleystadium ? 8pm? @BBCOne and @ITV pic.twitter.com/zrhlzqEla6

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 18,926
    edited July 11
    First like Italy.
  • I can't support Corbyn after the EHRC investigation, that was always a red line for me.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    Greece reports 1,465 new coronavirus cases, an increase of 137% from last week
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 37,463
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA

    "Well, some of the crowd are on the pitch
    Well, some of the crowd are on the pitch
    They think it's all over
    Well, it is now"

    Express yourself
    Create the space
    You know you can win
    Don't give up the chase
    Beat the man
    Take him on
    You never give up
    It's one on one

    Express yourself
    It's one on one
    Express yourself
    It's one on one
    Express yourself
    You can't be wrong
    When something's good
    It's never gone

    Love's got the world in motion
    And I know what we can do
    Love's got the world in motion
    And I can't believe it's true

    Now is the time
    Let everyone see
    You never give up
    That's how it should be
    Don't get caught
    Make your own play
    Express yourself
    Don't give it away

    Express yourself
    It's one on one
    Express yourself
    It's one on one
    Express yourself
    You can't be wrong
    When something's good
    It's never gone

    Love's got the world in motion
    And I know what we can do
    Love's got the world in motion
    And I can't believe it's true
    Love's got the world in motion
    And I know what we can do
    Love's got the world in motion
    And I can't believe it's true

    You've got to hold and give
    But do it at the right time
    You can be slow or fast
    But you must get to the line
    They'll always hit you and hurt you
    Defend and attack
    There's only one way to beat them
    Get 'round the back
    Catch me if you can
    'Cause I'm the England man
    And what you're looking at
    Is the master plan
    We ain't no hooligans
    This ain't a football song
    Three lions on my chest
    I know we can't go wrong

    We're playing for England (England)
    We're playing the song
    We're singing for England (England)
    Arrivederci, it's one one one
    We're playing for England (England)
    We're playing the song
    We're singing for England (England)
    Arrivederci, it's one one one
    We're playing for England (England)
    We're playing the song
    We're singing for England (England)
    Arrivederci, it's one one one
    We're playing for England (England)
    We're playing the song
    We're singing for England (England)
    Arrivederci, it's one one one
  • LeonLeon Posts: 9,050
    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours
  • LeonLeon Posts: 9,050
    Now an ambulance
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Down boy...down.....
  • Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    I think you might be letting your imagination run away with you again
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 40,502
    England have lost.

    India Women were just too good.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 24,810
    "no longer allowed to put pineapple pizza..." where?

    Is pineapple pizza now a flare substitute for the football fan who has everything?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 8,138
    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    ....

    Now an ambulance.

    And they say the age of the great short story writer is dead.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 42,262
    On sea/ water rescues I was reminded that when I was 14 and canoeing on the Tweed at Berwick just by the old bridge, a youngster fell/was pushed off the quay into the river. I managed to get to him as he was disappearing under the water, lift him onto my canopy, and paddle to the ladder at the quay and carry him up to the safety on the quayside, where an ambulance arrived

    I was so relieved he suffered no adverse consequences though an investigation by the police followed into how he had ended up in the water

    Rescues in water are instinctive and never a thought to personal danger
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 40,502
    Leon said:

    Now an ambulance

    Not that business with the saline drip again I hope?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 9,050
    "Streets around Piccadilly Circus & Leicester Square are busy with fans. We have officers on hand.

    "We'd urge everyone to keep themselves safe and look out for each other. We've seen people jumping off street lamps or hoardings, this could easily end in injury."

    I've realised that we just have to roll with this. It is a one-off. It is England's first final in half a century, the nation with the most passionate (and inebriate) fans, the same nation that invented the game, it is at Wembley, it's against a great opponent, and - most of all - it is the end of 16 months of lockdown hell and bleakness


    It is going to be mayhem, a bacchanal, a saturnalia, the Lord of Misrule is abroad. Just got to go with the flow


    https://twitter.com/MetPoliceEvents/status/1414266638535471106?s=20
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 14,593
    Chaotic scenes at Wembley as fans breach security. We filmed around 100 racing through a gap in the fencing. #ENG #Euro2020 #ITAENG
    https://twitter.com/dsj_itv/status/1414273009213390851
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 3,936

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    That's why I.loathe football and its fans....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 12,415
    edited July 11
    Hoping England win but expecting Italy to prove the better team.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 20,495
    Just agog to find out more about the Sikh people smuggling ring in Glasgow.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 11,122
    tlg86 said:

    First like Italy.

    I think you meant Engerlsnd.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 18,926

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
  • Serious question for our legal experts, is getting into Wembley without a ticket against the law?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Down boy...down.....
    Doesn't say how old they are. Might be his own age, sort of.

    Don't forget to put the bromide in the Corona, mind.
  • Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Down boy...down.....
    Doesn't say how old they are. Might be his own age, sort of.

    Don't forget to put the bromide in the Corona, mind.
    He's whatever age he's pretending to be today
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,700
    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 42,262
    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    And no successful World Cup bid
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368
    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 14,593
    Time to sort out the pizza
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 66,703
    edited July 11

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    And no successful World Cup bid
    I don't think this sort of thing registers when a world cup is awarded, compared to what drives the decisions. I also think we'd have little shot for all sorts of reasons.

    But it is depressing it still happens, even if things are not generally as bad as they once were.
  • TazTaz Posts: 1,090
    I’m dreading endless stories of mindless vandalism against Italian restaurants by our finest fans.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 1,348
    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realise the policing operation needs to be pretty robust for the nations first final in 55 years

    The fact it has failed so early..
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368
    Taz said:

    I’m dreading endless stories of mindless vandalism against Italian restaurants by our finest fans.
    Any statues of Italians?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 24,810
    It's like Hillsborough or Ibrox '71 have been forgotten ...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    edited July 11

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realise the policing operation needs to be pretty robust for the nations first final in 55 years

    The fact it has failed so early..

    Well and the fact people have been locked up for most of 15 months and huge numbers of people are going to all come out at the same time.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 25,169
    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Got his beer goggles on...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 41,949
    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
  • TazTaz Posts: 1,090
    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 28,079
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Got his beer goggles on...
    Or hoping the girls do..
  • LeonLeon Posts: 9,050
    Hahahahah


    Remainers on the lash?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,076
    LOL

    https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status/1414213554417328129

    You know who I feel sorry for today? Prince Harry. He’d have been there at Wembley giving it large. Instead it’ll be a kale salad with the Mrs discussing the importance of supporting CRT in schools.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    Wait until Piers Morgan turns up.....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 66,703

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Got his beer goggles on...
    Or hoping the girls do..
    Finals night is a night of hope for all, for many reasons.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 38,885

    Greece reports 1,465 new coronavirus cases, an increase of 137% from last week

    Greece has high levels of vaccine scepticism, and is waaaaaaayyyy behind Western Europe in terms of roll-out - they could well have a pretty awful Delta wave.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,076

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    Nah - she would say lessons will be learnt and ignore it
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    rcs1000 said:

    Greece reports 1,465 new coronavirus cases, an increase of 137% from last week

    Greece has high levels of vaccine scepticism, and is waaaaaaayyyy behind Western Europe in terms of roll-out - they could well have a pretty awful Delta wave.
    And they opened up for holidays....all those tourists bringing the plague with them.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realise the policing operation needs to be pretty robust for the nations first final in 55 years

    The fact it has failed so early..

    Well and the fact people have been locked up for most of 15 months and huge numbers of people are going to all come out at the same time.
    Biggest Pride March ever.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 49,939
    Top trolling:

    Very nice surprise from our @EU_Commission team in Italy

    Forza Azzurri!

    Fingers crossed for tonight’s #Euro2020Final


    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1414256432179027970?s=20
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 894
    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    Floater said:

    LOL

    https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status/1414213554417328129

    You know who I feel sorry for today? Prince Harry. He’d have been there at Wembley giving it large. Instead it’ll be a kale salad with the Mrs discussing the importance of supporting CRT in schools.

    Have we done the what was Kate doing cutting short self-isolation at the Wimbledon final thing yet?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 6,670
    Leon said:

    Hahahahah


    Remainers on the lash?
    Poor old Nige. I bet he assumed that England footie fans would be throwing petals.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368
    edited July 11
    kle4 said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Got his beer goggles on...
    Or hoping the girls do..
    Finals night is a night of hope for all, for many reasons.
    Not for Italian car owners, mind.

    https://twitter.com/NewsForAllUK/status/1414269139397586944
    NEW: ‘You can shove that Lamborghini up your arse’
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 66,703

    Top trolling:

    Very nice surprise from our @EU_Commission team in Italy

    Forza Azzurri!

    Fingers crossed for tonight’s #Euro2020Final


    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1414256432179027970?s=20

    Good show - all in good fun.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,012
    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 49,939
    edited July 11
    EXCL. Cruise ships wd be used to quarantine thousands of students from red-list countries under plans explored by Scottish Govt. Critics warn of petri dish like conditions. 1st UK Covid death was someone infected while quarantined on a cruise ship

    https://twitter.com/SundayTimesSco/status/1414137339505520640?s=20

    Jackie Baillie, the Scottish Labour health spokeswoman, said: “It looks like the Scottish government is making things up as they go along. Having banned people from cruises and banned cruise ship passengers coming ashore in Scotland, they now appear intent on housing thousands of students in close quarters in petri dish-like conditions which risk a huge spread of the virus.”
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,012
    At least one church organist has had some fun at morning service.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=three+lions+organ&sp=EgIIAw%3D%3D

    More entertaining than that England line up.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 25,169
    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 40,502

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realise the policing operation needs to be pretty robust for the nations first final in 55 years

    The fact it has failed so early..

    Cressida Dick in charge

    What could go wrong
    This is an urgent public safety message to all Italian electricians in London with skins that are slightly sallow.

    Get under cover. Now. Somewhere with a very strong lock on the door.

    Oh, and FFS don’t run.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Please don't do a Germany tactics on us. That said, we did win. But what a slog.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368
    Leon said:

    Hahahahah


    Remainers on the lash?
    Dunno. The bottles might have been full, thank-offerings to the great divinity.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    edited July 11
    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 4,291
    The rain is coming down in Londinium. That should tame a few excessive passions at least until kick-off.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 8,138
    Andy_JS said:
    Which means, given weight of betting, they are not favourites.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 6,739
    Advenit Romam. Gaudete!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that is an exciting team....
    In particular, I don't see how Saka doesn't get a start.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 66,703
    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    He can do what he likes. Until they lose.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    edited July 11
    TOPPING said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Please don't do a Germany tactics on us. That said, we did win. But what a slog.
    It is going to be exactly that approach again.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 40,502
    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    The drama was going on elsewhere. As it has been in the UK for many years. Civilians have long been left alone at the footie. Father and sons with scarves/flags/shirts? Would get a free pass by any mob if perhaps a bit of joshing.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 4,291
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    Italian trains are in fact still very good. The original Roman road makers in London would have been proud.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    edited July 11
    TOPPING said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that is an exciting team....
    In particular, I don't see how Saka doesn't get a start.
    Because its 5 at the back, and Saka can play left wing back, but Shaw has been very good at left back / left wing back all tournament.

    This is the downside to Southgate 2 systems, there are very limited number of positions for flair players. There is basically 1-2 "free" roles, from which there is Sterling, Sancho, Foden, Grealish, Saka, and Rashford all vying for them.

    And Southgate totally trusts Sterling, so realistically at most 1 free role, and 5 players all who could play there.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 2,971
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 66,703
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    Well, I bet people were less inclined to complain about it, anyway.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 12,368

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rear-window-making-italy-work-did-mussolini-really-get-trains-running-time-1367688.html
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865

    TOPPING said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that is an exciting team....
    In particular, I don't see how Saka doesn't get a start.
    Because its 5 at the back, and Saka can play left wing back, but Shaw has been very good at left back / left wing back all tournament.

    This is the downside to Southgate 2 systems, there are very limited number of positions for flair players. There is basically 1-2 "free" roles, from which there is Sterling, Sancho, Foden, Grealish, Saka, and Rashford all vying for them.
    roll on 70mins.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 1,847

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
    I think it’s worse than lack of flair. With this formation, if your wing backs get pegged back you don’t function.

    I’m not a big fan of going to back five in this era believing you are more secure. If you concede a midfield presser and midfield pass option to your opponents, you will concede too much possession and territory, leaving opponents with the possession playing too close to your defensive line, ie free kicks, your passer will be pressed too quickly by their spare man, and it leaves you looking like you are playing crap and without passion out manned in midfield.

    It’s the first really big mistake Southgate has made in a tournament, and it’s pretty fatal really, going back five and leaving his midfield and forwards running round like headless chickens. 🤬

    I would have Henderson for Mount, overload midfield press ourselves for at least 60 mins, I would play a long ball game. We have people who intuitively know where they should be, we should use that and their pace rather than a wing back game.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 22,766
    So c'mon - wokes, unwokes, antiwokes - POSITIVE PB energy - :smile::smile:

    This has got high-scoring England win written all over it. 3/2, 3/1, 3/0, 4/1. One of those.

    (only had a couple)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 41,949
    TOPPING said:

    Floater said:

    LOL

    https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status/1414213554417328129

    You know who I feel sorry for today? Prince Harry. He’d have been there at Wembley giving it large. Instead it’ll be a kale salad with the Mrs discussing the importance of supporting CRT in schools.

    Have we done the what was Kate doing cutting short self-isolation at the Wimbledon final thing yet?
    No doubt she was in this mysterious trial that Gove and other ministers all seem to know about but no one else does. See Dan Hodges in today's Mail.

    One rule etc...
  • TazTaz Posts: 1,090
    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
    It’s utter bliss and if you don’t eat it all cold for breakfast. It’s divine.

    Has to be lamb for me.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 8,138

    TOPPING said:

    Floater said:

    LOL

    https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status/1414213554417328129

    You know who I feel sorry for today? Prince Harry. He’d have been there at Wembley giving it large. Instead it’ll be a kale salad with the Mrs discussing the importance of supporting CRT in schools.

    Have we done the what was Kate doing cutting short self-isolation at the Wimbledon final thing yet?
    No doubt she was in this mysterious trial that Gove and other ministers all seem to know about but no one else does. See Dan Hodges in today's Mail.

    One rule etc...
    The double injuncted special trial.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 62,763
    edited July 11
    gealbhan said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
    I think it’s worse than lack of flair. With this formation, if your wing backs get pegged back you don’t function.

    I’m not a big fan of going to back five in this era believing you are more secure. If you concede a midfield presser and midfield pass option to your opponents, you will concede too much possession and territory, leaving opponents with the possession playing too close to your defensive line, ie free kicks, your passer will be pressed too quickly by their spare man, and it leaves you looking like you are playing crap and without passion out manned in midfield.

    It’s the first really big mistake Southgate has made in a tournament, and it’s pretty fatal really, going back five and leaving his midfield and forwards running round like headless chickens. 🤬

    I would have Henderson for Mount, overload midfield press ourselves for at least 60 mins, I would play a long ball game. We have people who intuitively know where they should be, we should use that and their pace rather than a wing back game.
    It also gives the aging slow Italian defence, who don't really want to do a lot of running, only 1 speed merchant to worry about. If you had Trent Alexander- Arnold and Saka as your wing back, then that is a different kettle of fish.

    Foden is a huge loss today. If they get pinned back, he is the man who has the world class ability to work through organized tight defences. Grealish potentially can, but he will also give the ball away a lot, which the Italians will then keep for 5 mins.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 24,810
    Mrs J's knowledge of football is encyclopaedic:
    "How long's the intermission?"
    Me: "About twice the length of the matinee."
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865

    TOPPING said:

    Floater said:

    LOL

    https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status/1414213554417328129

    You know who I feel sorry for today? Prince Harry. He’d have been there at Wembley giving it large. Instead it’ll be a kale salad with the Mrs discussing the importance of supporting CRT in schools.

    Have we done the what was Kate doing cutting short self-isolation at the Wimbledon final thing yet?
    No doubt she was in this mysterious trial that Gove and other ministers all seem to know about but no one else does. See Dan Hodges in today's Mail.

    One rule etc...
    Ah. I see it was one of those "didn't you realise it was..." things.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 6,232

    rcs1000 said:

    Greece reports 1,465 new coronavirus cases, an increase of 137% from last week

    Greece has high levels of vaccine scepticism, and is waaaaaaayyyy behind Western Europe in terms of roll-out - they could well have a pretty awful Delta wave.
    And they opened up for holidays....all those tourists bringing the plague with them.
    I guess you are joking, but just in case: you have to prove you haven't got Covid (by test prior to departure), or have evidence of vaccination +14 days, or evidence of prior Covid infection before you are allowed to travel to Greece. Greeks are far more likely to contract Covid from their fellow Greeks than international travellers.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 40,502

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    No, because it isn’t true. It is however a famous putdown and deserved an airing :smile:

    What he did was spend large sums of money on the main line networks, used by tourists and journalists. Then, he demanded realistic timetables. Previously the rail managers had been running timetables predicated on a running speed of around 120kph in stretches, where the realistic top speed on the railways of that time and place was around 110 kph. Moreover, no pathing allowances had been left to let them regain time. So, naturally, they were frequently late.

    So he made the prestigious trains appear to be running much more reliably. Hence the myth of ‘he made the trains run on time.’

    People on quiet branch lines didn’t get a look in, of course, but the Italian railway network was so chaotic that didn’t make much difference. There were numerous stations built so far from the villages they were meant to serve that they were actually further away than most inhabitants had ever travelled.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 1,847

    gealbhan said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
    I think it’s worse than lack of flair. With this formation, if your wing backs get pegged back you don’t function.

    I’m not a big fan of going to back five in this era believing you are more secure. If you concede a midfield presser and midfield pass option to your opponents, you will concede too much possession and territory, leaving opponents with the possession playing too close to your defensive line, ie free kicks, your passer will be pressed too quickly by their spare man, and it leaves you looking like you are playing crap and without passion out manned in midfield.

    It’s the first really big mistake Southgate has made in a tournament, and it’s pretty fatal really, going back five and leaving his midfield and forwards running round like headless chickens. 🤬

    I would have Henderson for Mount, overload midfield press ourselves for at least 60 mins, I would play a long ball game. We have people who intuitively know where they should be, we should use that and their pace rather than a wing back game.
    It also gives the aging slow Italian defence, who don't really want to do a lot of running, only 1 speed merchant to worry about. If you had Trent Alexander- Arnold and Saka as your wing back, then that is a different kettle of fish.
    I agree. Our Speed testing their defence, and matched up in the middle was by far better option.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 29,865
    Bloody good Amazon Prime phishing email just now. Didn't click but checked 4x the originating email address. As the lubrication increases this evening beware.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 6,739
    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    And without the national coach being a complete and utter fing cnt about 1812 or Stalingrad? God, I hope the Italians win.
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