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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Three Brits in the mixed doubles final at Wimbledon.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,965
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  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
    It’s utter bliss and if you don’t eat it all cold for breakfast. It’s divine.

    Has to be lamb for me.
    What other sort is there?

    Actually don't answer that.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    Three Brits in the mixed doubles final at Wimbledon.

    So unless there has been a strange counting error, Britain is guaranteed one title at Wimbledon this year?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Leon said:

    Now an ambulance

    I warned you your heart wouldn’t take it at your age, Leon, but would you listen?
    Mate of mine who I was watching the footie with on Wednesday, smuggled in some pizza because the table service was too slow, had a heart attack the following day.

    Apropos of nothing 'cept DON'T JOKE!!

    :smile:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    One hour to go!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ⚽️ 🇮🇹
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    ydoethur said:

    Three Brits in the mixed doubles final at Wimbledon.

    So unless there has been a strange counting error, Britain is guaranteed one title at Wimbledon this year?
    Yes, the fourth player is an American lady.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    I’m sure I know how Hitler did it. They paid someone to sit by the fire perhaps entire shift reading the newspaper. When Hans the driver or Hans the signalman, or Hans the guard fail to show on time, he put down the paper, picked up his cap and instantly filled in for Hans.

    Sort of thing that happens under National Socialism, never under free market capitalism?

    The serious side, neither great nor super, the economic cost of Reggie turning up 30 minutes late so often when trains don’t run on time.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Sandpit said:

    One hour to go!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ⚽️ 🇮🇹

    I wonder if anyone has been laying in stocks of fireworks in case England win

    I do hope not, given I have to be up at five in the morning, but knowing some of my neighbours I wouldn’t bet against it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    gealbhan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    I’m sure I know how Hitler did it. They paid someone to sit by the fire perhaps entire shift reading the newspaper. When Hans the driver or Hans the signalman, or Hans the guard fail to show on time, he put down the paper, picked up his cap and instantly filled in for Hans.

    Sort of thing that happens under National Socialism, never under free market capitalism?

    The serious side, neither great nor super, the economic cost of Reggie turning up 30 minutes late so often when trains don’t run on time.
    That must be the most bizarre Godwin of all time.

    I’m thinking you probably didn’t read the original post...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    One hour to go!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ⚽️ 🇮🇹

    I wonder if anyone has been laying in stocks of fireworks in case England win

    I do hope not, given I have to be up at five in the morning, but knowing some of my neighbours I wouldn’t bet against it.
    What happens if, erm, the game situation has developed not necessarily to England's advantage?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    One hour to go!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ⚽️ 🇮🇹

    I wonder if anyone has been laying in stocks of fireworks in case England win

    I do hope not, given I have to be up at five in the morning, but knowing some of my neighbours I wouldn’t bet against it.
    What happens if, erm, the game situation has developed not necessarily to England's advantage?
    Then I get a good night’s sleep :smile:
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    edited July 2021
    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Best organized international sporting event since Berlin '36?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    No, because it isn’t true. It is however a famous putdown and deserved an airing :smile:

    What he did was spend large sums of money on the main line networks, used by tourists and journalists. Then, he demanded realistic timetables. Previously the rail managers had been running timetables predicated on a running speed of around 120kph in stretches, where the realistic top speed on the railways of that time and place was around 110 kph. Moreover, no pathing allowances had been left to let them regain time. So, naturally, they were frequently late.

    So he made the prestigious trains appear to be running much more reliably. Hence the myth of ‘he made the trains run on time.’

    People on quiet branch lines didn’t get a look in, of course, but the Italian railway network was so chaotic that didn’t make much difference. There were numerous stations built so far from the villages they were meant to serve that they were actually further away than most inhabitants had ever travelled.
    So he underpromised and overdelivered, which I thought our own dictator was getting flak currently for not doing?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    IshmaelZ said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    No, because it isn’t true. It is however a famous putdown and deserved an airing :smile:

    What he did was spend large sums of money on the main line networks, used by tourists and journalists. Then, he demanded realistic timetables. Previously the rail managers had been running timetables predicated on a running speed of around 120kph in stretches, where the realistic top speed on the railways of that time and place was around 110 kph. Moreover, no pathing allowances had been left to let them regain time. So, naturally, they were frequently late.

    So he made the prestigious trains appear to be running much more reliably. Hence the myth of ‘he made the trains run on time.’

    People on quiet branch lines didn’t get a look in, of course, but the Italian railway network was so chaotic that didn’t make much difference. There were numerous stations built so far from the villages they were meant to serve that they were actually further away than most inhabitants had ever travelled.
    So he underpromised and overdelivered, which I thought our own dictator was getting flak currently for not doing?
    Well, he promised and partly delivered in a limited and specific way.

    Make of that what you will.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Hard life indeed. JUst when you thought the Scots were sorted.

    Off now to artisanal sausages, home grown redcurrants with ground rice pudding, and a pleasnt evening with my hobbies and my book on the Siege of Tsingtao.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    I’m in an Uber headed to a hackney pub with an Italian Dolomites tourism branded water bottle full of excellent Nyetimber rose English fizz
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    ydoethur said:

    gealbhan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    I’m sure I know how Hitler did it. They paid someone to sit by the fire perhaps entire shift reading the newspaper. When Hans the driver or Hans the signalman, or Hans the guard fail to show on time, he put down the paper, picked up his cap and instantly filled in for Hans.

    Sort of thing that happens under National Socialism, never under free market capitalism?

    The serious side, neither great nor super, the economic cost of Reggie turning up 30 minutes late so often when trains don’t run on time.
    That must be the most bizarre Godwin of all time.

    I’m thinking you probably didn’t read the original post...
    Do I get a prize? 🙂
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,173
    Have fun at the football...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161
    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    I have friends (very wealthy ones), who have traveled between Australia and the UK a couple of times during the pandemic.

    It's perfectly possible to get into Australia, so long as you are (a) Australian and (b) wealthy enough to afford the most expensive quarantine hotels.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    gealbhan said:

    ydoethur said:

    gealbhan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    In the spirit of pb - have you any evidence for that claim? A link? 😁
    I’m sure I know how Hitler did it. They paid someone to sit by the fire perhaps entire shift reading the newspaper. When Hans the driver or Hans the signalman, or Hans the guard fail to show on time, he put down the paper, picked up his cap and instantly filled in for Hans.

    Sort of thing that happens under National Socialism, never under free market capitalism?

    The serious side, neither great nor super, the economic cost of Reggie turning up 30 minutes late so often when trains don’t run on time.
    That must be the most bizarre Godwin of all time.

    I’m thinking you probably didn’t read the original post...
    Do I get a prize? 🙂
    A ticket on the 6.58 from Rome to Milan.

    It’ll be 20 minutes late.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339
    edited July 2021
    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)

    They don’t think it vindicates Brexit really, ofc. They just worry that is the perception
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    I have friends (very wealthy ones), who have traveled between Australia and the UK a couple of times during the pandemic.

    It's perfectly possible to get into Australia, so long as you are (a) Australian and (b) wealthy enough to afford the most expensive quarantine hotels.
    I thought there were weekly quotas on arrivals?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)
    So England’s pummelling by New Zealand shows that small island nations can’t cope without help from their bigger neighbours?*

    *South Africa and Australia, in New Zealand’s case :wink:
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,405
    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
    It’s utter bliss and if you don’t eat it all cold for breakfast. It’s divine.

    Has to be lamb for me.
    What other sort is there?

    Actually don't answer that.
    Sorry, I have to !!

    They do chicken ones too in many places.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    jonny83 said:

    Scenes like this remind me why I no longer give a fuck about football and haven't for many years. Absolutely pathetic.

    I was in Russia for the Semi-Final and Final of the World Cup. All I saw was good spirits, and at worst a bit of banter. That was with my boys, all in England shirts and flags, in a crowd with numbers of Croat supporters.

    Say what you like about Putin, but he knew how to run a good tournament, with no trouble.
    Say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains run on time.
    Well, I bet people were less inclined to complain about it, anyway.
    The totalitarian playbook.

    1: Whenever the trains arrive, is on time.
    2: Anyone who says they're late, is shot.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    "Israel & Palestine" would be pretty woke.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    Masks on the tube appear to have become optional already....

    https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1414285840369524736?s=19
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Taz said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
    It’s utter bliss and if you don’t eat it all cold for breakfast. It’s divine.

    Has to be lamb for me.
    What other sort is there?

    Actually don't answer that.
    Sorry, I have to !!

    They do chicken ones too in many places.
    eeeeuw
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    Masks on the tube appear to have become optional already....

    https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1414285840369524736?s=19

    Yep today it was around 55% compliance. Heavily skewed by footie fans, that said. But a significant number of non-footie fans also not wearing them.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,457
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)

    They don’t think it vindicates Brexit really, ofc. They just worry that is the perception
    Interesting. I have precisely the same worries about The Knee.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    "Israel & Palestine" would be pretty woke.
    I thought it was ‘Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories?’

    That’s certainly what the FO called it when I was there five years ago.

    East Jerusalem was however AIR lumped in with Israel, not as one of the OPT.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)
    This is transparently total bullshit.

    There are no remainers who think anything vindicates Brexit, least of all England's football team.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    Masks on the tube appear to have become optional already....

    https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1414285840369524736?s=19

    Why is that "sensitive footage"?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Fake news I am sure. Us Remoaners all love Gareth and the boys. 🦁🦁🦁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,457
    I hope England win and I don't want to be a party pooper but it's very possible - even slightly more likely than not - that Italy win tonight.

    I'd rate England's chances at about 45%. This is not a done deal, and it will be a brutal match.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,339

    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)
    This is transparently total bullshit.

    There are no remainers who think anything vindicates Brexit, least of all England's football team.
    See my amendment. They fear it will vindicate Brexit in public perception. Might be something in that
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    I have friends (very wealthy ones), who have traveled between Australia and the UK a couple of times during the pandemic.

    It's perfectly possible to get into Australia, so long as you are (a) Australian and (b) wealthy enough to afford the most expensive quarantine hotels.
    I thought there were weekly quotas on arrivals?
    Yes I read (that article posted on here by someone) that they had halved it. Inflicting more misery on their citizens.
  • At this point @Leon is just using a random word generator to make his sentences
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Carnyx said:

    alex_ said:

    tlg86 said:

    Police can’t stop the England Flag of England fans without tickets storming the ticket entrances at Wembley - not enough riot police to deal with the weight amount of the crowd - kicking off !!!

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrown_UK/status/1414271860070653952?s=20

    Distinct lack of police there.
    Hmmm. This is the sort of thing that could put the game in jeopardy.
    I'm beginning to worry about the spectators being put in jeopardy, actually.
    Surely this would be Cressida Dick's final f*ck up if it turns out not enough police?
    On the tube and around and about in Central London today amidst the general euphoria and end of school/restrictions feeling, I thought to myself: if I was a terrorist...
    And you were coming from a Green List country...
    Two interesting things about the Green List of countries:

    1) Australia is on it - why would anyone go to the UK (or anywhere) from Australia when they wouldn't be able to return; and
    2) They have "Israel and Jerusalem" as a country. That is pretty woke AFAICS.
    I have friends (very wealthy ones), who have traveled between Australia and the UK a couple of times during the pandemic.

    It's perfectly possible to get into Australia, so long as you are (a) Australian and (b) wealthy enough to afford the most expensive quarantine hotels.
    I thought there were weekly quotas on arrivals?
    They're set by quarantine hotel capacity, which is therefore incredibly expensive.

    Basically, if you're rich, no problem. But for people (particularly families) it's close to impossible.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited July 2021
    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664

    At this point @Leon is just using a random word generator to make his sentences

    That would be an improvement tbh.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)

    They don’t think it vindicates Brexit really, ofc. They just worry that is the perception
    You are a remainer aren't you? No other explanation for you being so obsessed by what they get up to.

    In this modern age I have no doubt that if you come out as such your friends (just kidding - everyone on PB) won't look awry at you.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Time to sort out the pizza

    You missed a trick. I've got plenty in the fridge. Dominos cold from Friday. It doesn't get more England footie than that.
    We’ve got left over Chinese from Friday night,

    Wish it was a cold doner kebab.
    God it's ages since I've had a doner. Walking home at XXam there is nothing like it.
    It’s utter bliss and if you don’t eat it all cold for breakfast. It’s divine.

    Has to be lamb for me.
    What other sort is there?

    Actually don't answer that.
    Sorry, I have to !!

    They do chicken ones too in many places.
    eeeeuw
    He forgot the blowfly maggots in the bit in the middle. Lots of protein and fat, mind.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,161

    I hope England win and I don't want to be a party pooper but it's very possible - even slightly more likely than not - that Italy win tonight.

    I'd rate England's chances at about 45%. This is not a done deal, and it will be a brutal match.

    Sounds about right.

    The Italian team is very good. We're pretty good, and we're at home.

    They are marginal favourites.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited July 2021
    TOPPING said:

    Masks on the tube appear to have become optional already....

    https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1414285840369524736?s=19

    Why is that "sensitive footage"?
    I presume it is more to do with that twitter account. Their main thing is documenting knife crime in London.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    If that's all that is between the outside and seats in the stadium Wembley is extremely poorly designed. Are we sure this isn't just some extra crowd-control?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,063
    My family love Italy

    We have had many holidays there and my daughter had her first romance in Amalfi all those years ago

    In 2016 I took all my family and grandchildren to Tuscany for a couple of weeks and it was enchanting

    Indeed, my granddaughter starts university in september studying the Italian language and culture

    I have to say that we all want England to win, but if not we will be delighted for Italy and its wonderful people
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    The authorities seem to have totally under manned the security at the stadium.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    gealbhan said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
    I think it’s worse than lack of flair. With this formation, if your wing backs get pegged back you don’t function.

    I’m not a big fan of going to back five in this era believing you are more secure. If you concede a midfield presser and midfield pass option to your opponents, you will concede too much possession and territory, leaving opponents with the possession playing too close to your defensive line, ie free kicks, your passer will be pressed too quickly by their spare man, and it leaves you looking like you are playing crap and without passion out manned in midfield.

    It’s the first really big mistake Southgate has made in a tournament, and it’s pretty fatal really, going back five and leaving his midfield and forwards running round like headless chickens. 🤬

    I would have Henderson for Mount, overload midfield press ourselves for at least 60 mins, I would play a long ball game. We have people who intuitively know where they should be, we should use that and their pace rather than a wing back game.
    It also gives the aging slow Italian defence, who don't really want to do a lot of running, only 1 speed merchant to worry about. If you had Trent Alexander- Arnold and Saka as your wing back, then that is a different kettle of fish.

    Foden is a huge loss today. If they get pinned back, he is the man who has the world class ability to work through organized tight defences. Grealish potentially can, but he will also give the ball away a lot, which the Italians will then keep for 5 mins.
    4 3 3 Italy? That would pin back our wing backs, and suck Mount, Sterling and Kane deep to help out in the middle?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)
    This is transparently total bullshit.

    There are no remainers who think anything vindicates Brexit, least of all England's football team.
    See my amendment. They fear it will vindicate Brexit in public perception. Might be something in that
    Not a chance. People get swept up in sporting events, a win would be celebrated, but opinions and more general feelings will return to normal. And anyone seeking to overtly use it as fodder for a political point would be acting counter productively.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    RobD said:

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    If that's all that is between the outside and seats in the stadium Wembley is extremely poorly designed. Are we sure this isn't just some extra crowd-control?
    None of this is coming up on the BBC Live text, when if it is as bad as some of the links shared imply isn't there danger of the match not starting on time?
  • Asked earlier but if you get into Wembley without a ticket, what are you prosecuted under? Breaking and entering?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    God, I’ve got Remoaner friends praying for an England defeat

    Hard cope

    Why?

    They already think England’s progress ‘vindicates’ Brexit. A victory will cement that (in their eyes)
    This is transparently total bullshit.

    There are no remainers who think anything vindicates Brexit, least of all England's football team.
    See my amendment. They fear it will vindicate Brexit in public perception. Might be something in that
    Not a chance. People get swept up in sporting events, a win would be celebrated, but opinions and more general feelings will return to normal. And anyone seeking to overtly use it as fodder for a political point would be acting counter productively.
    I'm not sure. Mr Johnson is good at appealing to the 'it's a laugh' younger male demographic.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    The authorities seem to have totally under manned the security at the stadium.

    I bet that gets treated more seriously than the US authorities' security prep on 6 January.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,063
    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    If that's all that is between the outside and seats in the stadium Wembley is extremely poorly designed. Are we sure this isn't just some extra crowd-control?
    None of this is coming up on the BBC Live text, when if it is as bad as some of the links shared imply isn't there danger of the match not starting on time?
    None of this is being covered by either channel
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662
    RobD said:

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    If that's all that is between the outside and seats in the stadium Wembley is extremely poorly designed. Are we sure this isn't just some extra crowd-control?
    Nope thats it Rob

    Or it was on my last visit in 2018
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited July 2021
    RobD said:

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    If that's all that is between the outside and seats in the stadium Wembley is extremely poorly designed. Are we sure this isn't just some extra crowd-control?
    The electronic barriers into the stadium from the concourse are serious bits of kit, you can't just jump those or easily force them, but no idea about service entrances etc under the stadium.

    The thing people shouldn't even be getting that far. You don't want 1000s trying crush turnstiles.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362
    Leon said:

    I’m in an Uber headed to a hackney pub with an Italian Dolomites tourism branded water bottle full of excellent Nyetimber rose English fizz

    I have brownies in the oven. Made with Irish butter.
  • https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1414289915169345539

    This is the UK I know. When Labour learns and understands that, then it will win elections once again.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    At this point @Leon is just using a random word generator to make his sentences

    GPT-3 random word generator?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Is Jermaine Jenas commentating on BBC?

    He is excellent and will get my view wherever he is. If he is anywhere.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Oh god....


    JUST IN - More and more security barriers are breached at Wembley as fans force their way into the stadium.

    https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/1414281552666808320?s=19

    What do they think this is? The Capitol Building?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    edited July 2021
    Under control according to the authorities (of course the Mandy Rice-Davies principle applies).
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/11/euro-2020-final-wembley-fans-break-barrier-england-italy
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,063
    There is far too much talking and not enough getting the atmosphere of Wembley
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1414289915169345539

    This is the UK I know. When Labour learns and understands that, then it will win elections once again.

    As I said earlier, in Central London there were mobs of all colours/flavours/you name it. All with England flags tied round their necks (and the more organised with loudspeakers to marshall the group).
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    gealbhan said:

    gealbhan said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Southgate determined to bore the crowd to death.

    https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/1414277588168630273

    What a pedestrian, flair free line up.

    Where as those missing out...

    Ramsdale, Johnstone, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford, Mings, Coady, Sancho, Calvert-Lewin, James, Saka, Bellingham. Foden, Chilwell & White

    Now that could be a very exciting team....
    I think it’s worse than lack of flair. With this formation, if your wing backs get pegged back you don’t function.

    I’m not a big fan of going to back five in this era believing you are more secure. If you concede a midfield presser and midfield pass option to your opponents, you will concede too much possession and territory, leaving opponents with the possession playing too close to your defensive line, ie free kicks, your passer will be pressed too quickly by their spare man, and it leaves you looking like you are playing crap and without passion out manned in midfield.

    It’s the first really big mistake Southgate has made in a tournament, and it’s pretty fatal really, going back five and leaving his midfield and forwards running round like headless chickens. 🤬

    I would have Henderson for Mount, overload midfield press ourselves for at least 60 mins, I would play a long ball game. We have people who intuitively know where they should be, we should use that and their pace rather than a wing back game.
    It also gives the aging slow Italian defence, who don't really want to do a lot of running, only 1 speed merchant to worry about. If you had Trent Alexander- Arnold and Saka as your wing back, then that is a different kettle of fish.

    Foden is a huge loss today. If they get pinned back, he is the man who has the world class ability to work through organized tight defences. Grealish potentially can, but he will also give the ball away a lot, which the Italians will then keep for 5 mins.
    4 3 3 Italy? That would pin back our wing backs, and suck Mount, Sterling and Kane deep to help out in the middle?
    TV pundits still talking us up. Karen Carney, who I do like, reckons Mount will boss it in his deeper role, pretending he’s Henderson.

    Er. Why not just play Henderson in the Henderson role, rather than wrong pegs in wrong holes?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843
    Sgt. Sunil: Alright, sweethearts, you're a team and there's nothin' to worry about. We come here, and we're gonna conquer, and we're gonna kick some, is that understood? That's what we're gonna do, sweethearts, we are going to go and get some. All right, people, on the ready line! Are ya lean?

    PB England Fans: Yeah!

    Sgt. Sunil: Are ya mean?

    PB England Fans: Yeah!

    Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU?

    PB England Fans: Lean and mean!

    Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU? RobD! TSE! Get on the ready line, PB England Fans, get some today! Get on the ready line! Move it out! Move it out, goddammit! Get hot! One, two, three, four! Get out, get out, get out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! One, two, three, four, five, six, seven! Aaarrrrr, absolutely badasses! Let's pack 'em in! Get in there!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    COVID-19 hospitalizations in Florida are at the highest level in more than 2 months https://t.co/Vp1tDrN1su https://t.co/ZhXnrg5UQ2
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,437

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realise the policing operation needs to be pretty robust for the nations first final in 55 years

    The fact it has failed so early..

    I wonder if Cressida 'unsackable' Dick's job will be called into question again.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    Sgt. Sunil: Alright, sweethearts, you're a team and there's nothin' to worry about. We come here, and we're gonna conquer, and we're gonna kick some, is that understood? That's what we're gonna do, sweethearts, we are going to go and get some. All right, people, on the ready line! Are ya lean?

    PB England Fans: Yeah!

    Sgt. Sunil: Are ya mean?

    PB England Fans: Yeah!

    Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU?

    PB England Fans: Lean and mean!

    Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU? RobD! TSE! Get on the ready line, PB England Fans, get some today! Get on the ready line! Move it out! Move it out, goddammit! Get hot! One, two, three, four! Get out, get out, get out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! One, two, three, four, five, six, seven! Aaarrrrr, absolutely badasses! Let's pack 'em in! Get in there!

    I’m glad to see you haven’t included me in your list.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    I had someone fall on top of me at White Hart Lane a few years ago (twats behind us were standing on the seats). I had a huge bruise on the back of my leg, but it could have been worse. I was genuinely terrified for a couple of seconds.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    It involved 40 people at most. A tiny skirmish. You can calm down. Plenty more nightmare fodder than that, perhaps at 90 + 3.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1414289915169345539

    This is the UK I know. When Labour learns and understands that, then it will win elections once again.

    I believe the Jedi contingent were lined up between the Scientologists and the Sentinelese, with the Victorians and Edwardians arrayed behind.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    Because football supporters are pricks.

    Not just a few bad apples.

    Well done Southgate with the military talk.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Looking at the pre-match with the pitchside interviews I am just so happy to see Wembley ram-packed and a proper crowd at an event.

    Roll on 19th July.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited July 2021
    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    One of the smartest things i experienced was at Rock am Ring in Germany. Its gets 100k people so needs serious crowd control. What they did was have 4 differenet areas at different distances from the stage, all railed off, with a fairly big gap in between each with security.

    If you wanted to go to a different areas, you had to go to the side, out to an open space, and then proceed forward, which was security controlled and there was a traffic light system. Red....full can't come in...yellow..very busy...green...quiet.

    You couldn't get the massive wave crush occurring and if somebody did fall ill or rammed against a barrier, it was much easier for the security to get in and help.

    And they monitored the numbers, so no area overfilled.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    LOL Gary Lineker - England have a 100% winning record in major finals.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,843

    ydoethur said:

    Three Brits in the mixed doubles final at Wimbledon.

    So unless there has been a strange counting error, Britain is guaranteed one title at Wimbledon this year?
    Yes, the fourth player is an American lady.
    The Anglo-American pair (Neal Slupski and Desiree Krawczyk) win the mixed doubles, so at least one British player wins Wimbledon this year! Joe Salisbury and Harriet Dart are runners up.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,662

    Leon said:

    I’m in an Uber headed to a hackney pub with an Italian Dolomites tourism branded water bottle full of excellent Nyetimber rose English fizz

    I have brownies in the oven. Made with Irish butter.
    Hmm. Mrs Foxy cooked pizza (pineapple free), opened the prosecco, and the only cold beer is Italian.

    Still supporting England though!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    IshmaelZ said:

    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    Because football supporters are pricks.

    Not just a few bad apples.

    Well done Southgate with the military talk.
    Hang on. I'm a football supporter. Do you mean me?
  • What a lovely montage.

    A modern team representing modern England.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    I’m in an Uber headed to a hackney pub with an Italian Dolomites tourism branded water bottle full of excellent Nyetimber rose English fizz

    I have brownies in the oven. Made with Irish butter.
    Hmm. Mrs Foxy cooked pizza (pineapple free), opened the prosecco, and the only cold beer is Italian.

    Still supporting England though!
    Doom Bar for me. Maybe a London Pride later.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,876
    Evening all :)

    I assume the thread for discussing the Moldovan and Bulgarian elections is elsewhere.

    Exit polls in from both countries - in Moldova, President Maia Sandu's Party of Action and Solidarity (PAS) has won 55% of the vote which suggests a huge landslide.

    The left-wing BECS has lost a third of its vote and the PDM has been annihilated.

    In Bulgaria, the GERB party has won most votes but has lost ground to ITN - seat projection:

    GERB: 62 (-13)
    There is Such a Nation (ITN): 59 (+8)
    Coalition for Bulgaria: 37 (-6)
    Democratic Bulgaria: 37 (+10)
    Movement for Rights & Freedom: 31 (+1)
    Others: 14

    Not 100% sure how this will help the political deadlock if I'm being honest.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,662

    IshmaelZ said:

    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    Because football supporters are pricks.

    Not just a few bad apples.

    Well done Southgate with the military talk.
    Hang on. I'm a football supporter. Do you mean me?
    And me!

    Been called worse though...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    This warm up entertainment isn’t exactly Danny Boyle, is it.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    TOPPING said:

    Alistair said:

    Now this is terrifying. Look how quickly it goes from "crowd" to "crush".

    All in a pretty open environment.

    https://twitter.com/MUHQNews/status/1414269947610550275?s=19

    Absolute nightmare fuel for me.

    It involved 40 people at most. A tiny skirmish. You can calm down. Plenty more nightmare fodder than that, perhaps at 90 + 3.
    That's why it is so scary, barely any people, not even in a particularly enclosed space and in the blink of and eye you are having people pulled out from a stack of bodies piled three deep.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,900
    Shout out to the teachers of PB (and the England squad).
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    ok - I was ok - stress levels building now though
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,063
    IanB2 said:

    This warm up entertainment isn’t exactly Danny Boyle, is it.

    Especially being talked over by the media
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    Leon said:

    Camden update

    Exquisitely beautiful blonde girls sashaying down Parkway wearing very little apart from bottles of wine and England colours

    Leon said:

    Now an ambulance

    I warned you your heart wouldn’t take it at your age, Leon, but would you listen?
    Post of the decade
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    I hope saying this will surely be a low scoring match proves to be a jinx.
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