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  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,007

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    Oh just fuck off mate
    I gave you a like, but I’m guessing that HYUFD was attempting (and missing) a bit of humour ?
    We’ve all been there.
    HYUFD was born without a sense of humour, as seen by many of his posts on Scotland.

    I was prepared to just these things be but after that comment, bollocks to it.

    What a twat
    Calm down.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 755
    Rashford saved the Union, what are you all talking about
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,266
    edited July 2021

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    That would be an expensive mistake.

    PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,009

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    The criticism I've seen on Twitter and online is that they were young kids who hadn't kicked the ball all game and put under too much pressure with just a couple of minutes on the field.

    Don't project your own prejudices onto others.
    My prejudices? They're all giants however shit their penalty ended up being. To step up and take responsibility is a massive thing. What they need is what Southgate has given them - his handling of the players on the pitch after the end has been a study in good people management.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583
    Andy_JS said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    I hope this doesn't happen but if it does the culprits ought to feel the full force of the law.
    Full force of the Mafia!
  • Cocky_cockneyCocky_cockney Posts: 760
    edited July 2021

    Black Lives Matter But

    Ah, CHB I've spotted him!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,052

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    He sent the keeper the wrong way, just scuffed it a bit. Not even a foot, by the look of it.

    Leicesters new winger took a nice penalty. A bit anonymous otherwise though.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 24,967

    On the plus side, very profitable night and tournament for me.

    Laying England for a tournament is free money.

    Never in doubt.

    The betfair odds were way out throughout the match.
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578

    Weirdly, in the long run England scoring so early was probably a negative on balance in terms of how it affected how they approached the game after that.

    As happened in 2018 against Croatia
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,164

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    He tried to fool the keeper and only fooled himself.

    There's no need for a forward to try the clever dick stuff, that should be left for players who can't score goals.
    Presumably that's how he was taking them in training. In which case Southgate is an idiot for thinking that it was a good idea. Even Jorginho who takes them like that regularly messed his up tonight.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,835

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    Did he? He sent the goalie the wrong way.
    A foot from being the perfect penalty.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    edited July 2021

    What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?

    People making fatuous political comments because of the backgrounds of players was something I criticised. But your riposte overshoots those comments considerably.

    X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847

    kinabalu said:

    I’m taking a knee for all the penalty failures

    Oh you utter prick.
    I love you so much x
    Just work on yourself please. You pollute.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    dixiedean said:

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    Did he? He sent the goalie the wrong way.
    A foot from being the perfect penalty.
    A miss is as good as a mile.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    England did well to lose on penalties. They were outplayed buy a much more wily team
  • It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    edited July 2021

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,957

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    That would be an expensive mistake.

    PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
    It is insured.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 8,629
    am I the only one glad england lost so I dont get bored to death by football fans for the next decade?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,670
    Sandpit said:

    Oh dear, so what exactly was the point of making those two substitutions with seconds of extra time left?

    55 years of hurt, and counting.

    That was a weird decision
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    Bit passive aggressive there. Has anything happened this evening to upset you?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    What an unpleasant racist comment
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,052
    jonny83 said:

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    Made the final in one of the two tournaments this country can play in.

    He's not going anywhere.
    He already has a contract until the new WC, and deserves it.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614

    It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!

    Can’t wait for 50,000 pissed up footy fans to experience Qatari policing... ;)
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 14,772
    One of the good things about when England play football is that, regardless of the result, there'll always be part of Britain delighted by it. Scenes of jubilation in Scotland tonight. Very loud singing of, "It's coming Rome."

    I guess you take your pleasures where you can find them.

    England looked like worthy champions in the first half. So credit to Italy for turning that around.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    Bit passive aggressive there. Has anything happened this evening to upset you?
    Don't be a prat mate, it's obvious who I am referring to
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,080

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Well it is all over, now.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847

    kinabalu said:

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Bollocks comment.
    No, it's factually accurate.

    We won that 4-2 in play. If we were that good and deserved to win we would have scored 2-1 or 3-1 against Italy.
    It was about a pen at the end. We were good enough to win but didn't.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,678

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    I'd like to hope not.
    Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before.
    And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.

    His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 8,629

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    What an unpleasant racist comment
    What did you expect he is one of you lefties I think
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,957
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    If you want to send the army to crush Scottish nationalism then you should join the army. Eh?
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    As others have said, the worst thing about Rashford's penalty was the prancing pony stuff at the start. At least with the others, they were genuine shots, although not great.

    Quick guess here - Marcus R's commercial activities are going to take a hit after this game....
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,009

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    That would be an expensive mistake.

    PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
    Or buy burner phones and a nice Bush telly from Argos for such occasions
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847

    Anyway, now can the enigma of the tournament be solved.

    What the fuck is going on with Rio’s beard?

    It's painted on, I think.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,052
    dixiedean said:

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    Did he? He sent the goalie the wrong way.
    A foot from being the perfect penalty.
    Pickford had a good tournament. Arguably Man of The Tournament.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    And now back to your regular programming....the ongoing pandemic....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841
    tlg86 said:

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    He tried to fool the keeper and only fooled himself.

    There's no need for a forward to try the clever dick stuff, that should be left for players who can't score goals.
    Presumably that's how he was taking them in training. In which case Southgate is an idiot for thinking that it was a good idea. Even Jorginho who takes them like that regularly messed his up tonight.
    Think I remember Ronaldo screwing up a penalty in that manner
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 24,967
    I do feel for Southgate.

    For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583
    Pagan2 said:

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    What an unpleasant racist comment
    What did you expect he is one of you lefties I think
    He's not speaking for me mate. Long time since I have been called a lefty. Oh Jeremy Corbyn.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,558
    .
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    I see you were serious.
    A serious pillock..
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    I'd like to hope not.
    Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before.
    And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.

    His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
    The team did not play fantastically, but the only obvious call that can be put on his shoulders is bringing on penalty specialists who unfortunately did not work out. There'll be armchair analysis, that's part of the game, but I think most people can see we did well to get so far in the first place, his place is assured.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    I'd like to hope not.
    Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before.
    And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.

    His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
    Do we give a knighthood, for services to messing up penalty shootouts for 25 years?
  • Pagan2 said:

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    What an unpleasant racist comment
    What did you expect he is one of you lefties I think
    He's not speaking for me mate. Long time since I have been called a lefty. Oh Jeremy Corbyn.
    They disowned me too, I'm centrist scum now
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,164

    I do feel for Southgate.

    For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.

    It's another reason for doing penalties after 90 minutes. Takes that dilemma out of the equation with 30 minutes of real football to follow.
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,429
    With England losing Boris will now not have the cover to u-turn over the lifting of any restrictions.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,001
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,558

    Anyway, now can the enigma of the tournament be solved.

    What the fuck is going on with Rio’s beard?

    Jimmy Hill tribute work in progress.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847
    kle4 said:

    Black Lives Matter But Can’t Score From The Penalty Spot

    Not cool.
    The guy is special. His racism and all round bigotry oozes from every word he posts.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,009
    A Penalty Shootout then an HYUFD fit of the HYUFD's. Top quality entertainment.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583

    IshmaelZ said:

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    Bit passive aggressive there. Has anything happened this evening to upset you?
    Don't be a prat mate, it's obvious who I am referring to
    Ishmael is winding you up, don't bite
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,007
    Roger said:

    England did well to lose on penalties. They were outplayed buy a much more wily team

    Yes, to be honest they could have easily lost to Italy 2-1 during that match - or worse.

    We were just not quite good enough.

    Next year maybe.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,926
    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.

    Golden goal was tried and that failed.

    The only other option would be a replay - and I don't think that's practical.
    What happened to replays? That used to be what happened in the FA Cup and even the World Cup. I can't remember why the change was made.
  • kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Bollocks comment.
    No, it's factually accurate.

    We won that 4-2 in play. If we were that good and deserved to win we would have scored 2-1 or 3-1 against Italy.
    It was about a pen at the end. We were good enough to win but didn't.
    No we weren't really good enough to win it to be honest. Not sure we even had a shot on goal second half?

    The better side won, which means justice was served.

    The fact that we might have won it on penalties is another issue.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,266

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    That would be an expensive mistake.

    PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
    It is insured.
    Against deliberate damage?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    IshmaelZ said:

    There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.

    Charlie Croker

    Soho would starve if they closed the Italian restaurants. If they closed the Italian Bar there would be riots!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Sandpit said:

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    I'd like to hope not.
    Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before.
    And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.

    His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
    Do we give a knighthood, for services to messing up penalty shootouts for 25 years?
    I would prefer to look to the positives - the only team to beat us had to do it by penalties
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Cookie said:

    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.

    Golden goal was tried and that failed.

    The only other option would be a replay - and I don't think that's practical.
    Basically what's needed is a higher scoring sport which doesn't end in a draw, and where the rules are designed to discourage cheating. Rugby, perhaps. Or cricket.
    5 yellow cards… perhaps there should be some system where (say) 5 yellow cards = 1 bonus goal for the other side
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,007
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Result is kind of poetic - we are very very good but not quite good enough to win a tournament like this.

    It wasn't exactly the 1966 cup final, was it?

    Bollocks comment.
    No, it's factually accurate.

    We won that 4-2 in play. If we were that good and deserved to win we would have scored 2-1 or 3-1 against Italy.
    It was about a pen at the end. We were good enough to win but didn't.
    ITV level commentary.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,957
    On the plus side, we didn't lose to France.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    edited July 2021

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    Sandpit said:

    It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!

    Can’t wait for 50,000 pissed up footy fans to experience Qatari policing... ;)
    I hope the stadiums have the best air conditioning systems money can buy and that they don't break down.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    On the plus side, very profitable night and tournament for me.

    Laying England for a tournament is free money.

    Never in doubt.

    I lost a fortune by betting that football is interesting. I'm up on the evening cos I was on Italy to win at 2/1, but I had free bets which would have paid 10/1 or thereabouts if either side had won and both sides had scored in the 90 mins or if either side had won in extra time. Silly me.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,835
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    Did he? He sent the goalie the wrong way.
    A foot from being the perfect penalty.
    Pickford had a good tournament. Arguably Man of The Tournament.
    He did.
    But I wouldn't go that far.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    kinabalu said:

    Sick as a parrot basically. But what a great tournament.

    I reckon the top six premiership clubs would have beaten Italy (or England ) comfortably. We're lucky we see football of such a high standard.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,957

    Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.

    That would be an expensive mistake.

    PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
    It is insured.
    Against deliberate damage?
    Accidental damage.

    I'll say I'll slipped and fell.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,007

    How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.

    Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.

    The criticism I've seen on Twitter and online is that they were young kids who hadn't kicked the ball all game and put under too much pressure with just a couple of minutes on the field.

    Don't project your own prejudices onto others.
    My prejudices? They're all giants however shit their penalty ended up being. To step up and take responsibility is a massive thing. What they need is what Southgate has given them - his handling of the players on the pitch after the end has been a study in good people management.
    You talk about how everyone else is bigoted but actually expose your own in the process.

    You're a hyperinflated balloon, not a serious poster.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,080

    On the plus side, very profitable night and tournament for me.

    Laying England for a tournament is free money.

    Never in doubt.

    The betfair odds were way out throughout the match.
    That was the clue
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,926

    It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!

    We'd be optimistic about the World Cup based on this tournament.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    So this Italy side is now 34 games unbeaten. The current International record is 35...

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    edited July 2021
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!

    Can’t wait for 50,000 pissed up footy fans to experience Qatari policing... ;)
    I hope the stadiums have the best air conditioning systems money can buy and that they don't break down.
    That was their original plan, but in the end it worked out cheaper to bribe FIFA to stage the tournament in December rather than summer.

    Qatar in June would have been hilarious!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,007
    Anyway, I'm going to bed.

    Sleep well all.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,052

    On the plus side, we didn't lose to France.

    Or Germany.

    It's hard to hate the Italians. Such a lovely country.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,009
    Rio's beard. Commander Waterford on The Handmaid's Tale
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583

    On the plus side, we didn't lose to France.

    ...and we beat Germany
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,164
    kle4 said:

    Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.

    Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,080

    I do feel for Southgate.

    For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.

    Yes, arguably he just lost his second penalty shootout for England
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,926
    But all those "oh so nears"
    Wear you down through the years
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,279
    jonny83 said:

    So this Italy side is now 34 games unbeaten. The current International record is 35...

    Which team was that?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    Anyone think Rashford or Saka or Sancho would have the bottle to have done this (or been broke enough!)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWqmqGsTTBI
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,080
    dixiedean said:

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there

    Did he? He sent the goalie the wrong way.
    A foot from being the perfect penalty.
    Pickford had a good tournament. Arguably Man of The Tournament.
    He did.
    But I wouldn't go that far.
    Probably Chiesa
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,583
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    HYUFD you are one of my PB heroes, but tonight you are pushing all the wrong buttons.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    It's not obvious to me. Who are you suggesting? All the names look familiar to me.

    HYUFD made a slightly wild comment but don't hound him off the board. That's a feeble thing to do. We don't just want like minded robots on here, surely?
    Not H.

    We're talking Mr Racist Bigot.

    It's not a difficult spot.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
    I don't disagree, I think it was overhyped all round.

    England did well to get to the final but it was not the second coming
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited July 2021
    tlg86 said:

    kle4 said:

    Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.

    Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
    Slab head Maguire was the best penalty of the whole lot. Fired at pace right into the top corner.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,052
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    It has been a great tournament which has lifted people's spirits across the Continent. Hopefully there won't be any moronic trouble now.

    Next year Qatar!

    Can’t wait for 50,000 pissed up footy fans to experience Qatari policing... ;)
    I hope the stadiums have the best air conditioning systems money can buy and that they don't break down.
    It is a winter tournament, so shouldn't really be an issue.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    TOPPING said:

    kle4 said:

    What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?

    People making fatuous political comments because of the backgrounds of players was something I criticised. But your riposte overshoots those comments considerably.

    X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
    how little English white it has.

    I just find it mildly amusing that it was the whites that scored.
    Fucking hell are you for real?
    Please do not feed the dick head
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    On the plus side, we didn't lose to France.

    You thought that was Italy in the blue shirts?

    They don't call them maîtres de déguisement for nothing.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    Reasonable or not it was rather obvious trolling attempt, unless you genuinely think his performances on the pitch, which have been fine up to now, have been affected only for penalty taking and only tonight, despite him presumably not spending time campaigning during the tournament. And since many who dislike his campaigning like to make a big thing of all the real work being done by his PR people.

    I know you'll insist you were entirely serious, you always do, but come on, I'm supposed to believe you actually think Rashford's penalty taking skills were in any way affected by his past campaigning? Pull the other one. As trolling goes its so blatant there's no way I could be outraged.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,080
    jonny83 said:

    So this Italy side is now 34 games unbeaten. The current International record is 35...

    Mancini is already on the phone to San Marino
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,847

    Weirdly, in the long run England scoring so early was probably a negative on balance in terms of how it affected how they approached the game after that.

    That's a good point imo.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Andy_JS said:

    jonny83 said:

    So this Italy side is now 34 games unbeaten. The current International record is 35...

    Which team was that?
    Two teams managed 35.

    Brazil 1993-1996 and Spain 2007-2009.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,164

    tlg86 said:

    kle4 said:

    Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.

    Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
    Slab head Maguire was the best penalty of the whole lot.
    Penalties are a strange thing. I wasn't a huge fan of Mesut Ozil, but he was always fairly composed in good situations. Except penalties.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
    I don't disagree, I think it was overhyped all round.

    England did well to get to the final but it was not the second coming
    That's fair enough, can't argue with that.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    kinabalu said:

    Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?

    It's not obvious to me. Who are you suggesting? All the names look familiar to me.

    HYUFD made a slightly wild comment but don't hound him off the board. That's a feeble thing to do. We don't just want like minded robots on here, surely?
    Not H.

    We're talking Mr Racist Bigot.

    It's not a difficult spot.
    I am hardly racist, last night I was with my wife in a dinner of 15 and the only non Black British person there.

    I would have made exactly the same comment had Rashford been white
  • glwglw Posts: 9,535

    I do feel for Southgate.

    For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.

    So he should. He brought them on, almost certainly for the penalties, and then we get some silly tricksy stuff which fails, just after watching Kane and Maguire show how it should be done. The KISS principle applies to penalties. Why England of all teams would do anything else given our history is utterly beyond me.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,001
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties

    You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.

    You'd be resigning your seat.
    No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.

    There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.

    He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
    You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
    Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
    Nothing to do with anti Boris more the shame your comments bring on you and the fact you are a conservative party officer

    And you still plough on

  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Shocking to see some of the comments here.

    Can see who is a sports/football fan and who isn't.
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