How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
The criticism I've seen on Twitter and online is that they were young kids who hadn't kicked the ball all game and put under too much pressure with just a couple of minutes on the field.
Don't project your own prejudices onto others.
My prejudices? They're all giants however shit their penalty ended up being. To step up and take responsibility is a massive thing. What they need is what Southgate has given them - his handling of the players on the pitch after the end has been a study in good people management.
There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.
Charlie Croker
I hope this doesn't happen but if it does the culprits ought to feel the full force of the law.
Weirdly, in the long run England scoring so early was probably a negative on balance in terms of how it affected how they approached the game after that.
Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there
He tried to fool the keeper and only fooled himself.
There's no need for a forward to try the clever dick stuff, that should be left for players who can't score goals.
Presumably that's how he was taking them in training. In which case Southgate is an idiot for thinking that it was a good idea. Even Jorginho who takes them like that regularly messed his up tonight.
What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?
People making fatuous political comments because of the backgrounds of players was something I criticised. But your riposte overshoots those comments considerably.
X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
Made the final in one of the two tournaments this country can play in.
He's not going anywhere.
He already has a contract until the new WC, and deserves it.
One of the good things about when England play football is that, regardless of the result, there'll always be part of Britain delighted by it. Scenes of jubilation in Scotland tonight. Very loud singing of, "It's coming Rome."
I guess you take your pleasures where you can find them.
England looked like worthy champions in the first half. So credit to Italy for turning that around.
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
I'd like to hope not. Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before. And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.
His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
If you want to send the army to crush Scottish nationalism then you should join the army. Eh?
Every time I see a replay of that Rashford penalty I want to chuck my phone at the TV.
As others have said, the worst thing about Rashford's penalty was the prancing pony stuff at the start. At least with the others, they were genuine shots, although not great.
Quick guess here - Marcus R's commercial activities are going to take a hit after this game....
Rashford totally cocked that up, what on Earth happened there
He tried to fool the keeper and only fooled himself.
There's no need for a forward to try the clever dick stuff, that should be left for players who can't score goals.
Presumably that's how he was taking them in training. In which case Southgate is an idiot for thinking that it was a good idea. Even Jorginho who takes them like that regularly messed his up tonight.
Think I remember Ronaldo screwing up a penalty in that manner
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
I'd like to hope not. Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before. And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.
His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
The team did not play fantastically, but the only obvious call that can be put on his shoulders is bringing on penalty specialists who unfortunately did not work out. There'll be armchair analysis, that's part of the game, but I think most people can see we did well to get so far in the first place, his place is assured.
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
I'd like to hope not. Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before. And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.
His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
Do we give a knighthood, for services to messing up penalty shootouts for 25 years?
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
There are a quarter of a million Italians in Britain and they'll be made to suffer. Every restaurant, cafe, ice-cream parlor, gambling den and nightclub in London, Liverpool and Glasgow will be smashed.
Charlie Croker
Soho would starve if they closed the Italian restaurants. If they closed the Italian Bar there would be riots!
Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
I'd like to hope not. Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before. And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.
His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
Do we give a knighthood, for services to messing up penalty shootouts for 25 years?
I would prefer to look to the positives - the only team to beat us had to do it by penalties
I hate penalties. There must be an alternative. Well played Italy though.
Golden goal was tried and that failed.
The only other option would be a replay - and I don't think that's practical.
Basically what's needed is a higher scoring sport which doesn't end in a draw, and where the rules are designed to discourage cheating. Rugby, perhaps. Or cricket.
5 yellow cards… perhaps there should be some system where (say) 5 yellow cards = 1 bonus goal for the other side
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
On the plus side, very profitable night and tournament for me.
Laying England for a tournament is free money.
Never in doubt.
I lost a fortune by betting that football is interesting. I'm up on the evening cos I was on Italy to win at 2/1, but I had free bets which would have paid 10/1 or thereabouts if either side had won and both sides had scored in the 90 mins or if either side had won in extra time. Silly me.
How many minutes before the pundits call for Southgate's head? After all, he knows how important penalties are. He has had them practising. And they were shite. Must be his fault.
Also, can I predict that Twitter will now attack taking the knee and how wonderfully multicultural the team is. "The ones who look English scored. The migrants missed" etc etc.
The criticism I've seen on Twitter and online is that they were young kids who hadn't kicked the ball all game and put under too much pressure with just a couple of minutes on the field.
Don't project your own prejudices onto others.
My prejudices? They're all giants however shit their penalty ended up being. To step up and take responsibility is a massive thing. What they need is what Southgate has given them - his handling of the players on the pitch after the end has been a study in good people management.
You talk about how everyone else is bigoted but actually expose your own in the process.
You're a hyperinflated balloon, not a serious poster.
Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.
Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?
People making fatuous political comments because of the backgrounds of players was something I criticised. But your riposte overshoots those comments considerably.
X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
how little English white it has.
I just find it mildly amusing that it was the whites that scored.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
HYUFD you are one of my PB heroes, but tonight you are pushing all the wrong buttons.
Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?
It's not obvious to me. Who are you suggesting? All the names look familiar to me.
HYUFD made a slightly wild comment but don't hound him off the board. That's a feeble thing to do. We don't just want like minded robots on here, surely?
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
I don't disagree, I think it was overhyped all round.
England did well to get to the final but it was not the second coming
Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.
Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
Slab head Maguire was the best penalty of the whole lot. Fired at pace right into the top corner.
What, we have to accept that the multiculturalism of the team is why it’s the best English team ever because of all the backgrounds of the players, but now we have to ignore that because we’ve lost?
People making fatuous political comments because of the backgrounds of players was something I criticised. But your riposte overshoots those comments considerably.
X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
how little English white it has.
I just find it mildly amusing that it was the whites that scored.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
Reasonable or not it was rather obvious trolling attempt, unless you genuinely think his performances on the pitch, which have been fine up to now, have been affected only for penalty taking and only tonight, despite him presumably not spending time campaigning during the tournament. And since many who dislike his campaigning like to make a big thing of all the real work being done by his PR people.
I know you'll insist you were entirely serious, you always do, but come on, I'm supposed to believe you actually think Rashford's penalty taking skills were in any way affected by his past campaigning? Pull the other one. As trolling goes its so blatant there's no way I could be outraged.
Weirdly, in the long run England scoring so early was probably a negative on balance in terms of how it affected how they approached the game after that.
Rashford's will hurt the most. Poor penalties being saved is one thing, you can think how maybe you were unlucky the keeper guessed correctly, but missing is all on you.
Actually, I don't have a problem with a player hitting the woodwork if they are shooting properly. The Sancho and Saka misses were pretty poor in my opinion as they were safe kicks. But Rashford's was the worse.
Slab head Maguire was the best penalty of the whole lot.
Penalties are a strange thing. I wasn't a huge fan of Mesut Ozil, but he was always fairly composed in good situations. Except penalties.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
Does it not cut both ways, that the PM should stop fucking about getting involved in football photo ops and get on with governing the country?
I don't disagree, I think it was overhyped all round.
England did well to get to the final but it was not the second coming
Is the mod team going to do something about the obvious troll?
It's not obvious to me. Who are you suggesting? All the names look familiar to me.
HYUFD made a slightly wild comment but don't hound him off the board. That's a feeble thing to do. We don't just want like minded robots on here, surely?
Not H.
We're talking Mr Racist Bigot.
It's not a difficult spot.
I am hardly racist, last night I was with my wife in a dinner of 15 and the only non Black British person there.
I would have made exactly the same comment had Rashford been white
For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.
So he should. He brought them on, almost certainly for the penalties, and then we get some silly tricksy stuff which fails, just after watching Kane and Maguire show how it should be done. The KISS principle applies to penalties. Why England of all teams would do anything else given our history is utterly beyond me.
Italy win, it all went wrong then when Rashford spent all his time campaigning against the government rather than practicing his penalties
You should hope nobody screenshots that and lets the media know.
You'd be resigning your seat.
No I most certainly would not it is what many were thinking and I got several likes for it on twitter.
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
You have absolutely no awareness and to be honest best advice is to have an early night, though it is not early
Yes the usual anti Johnson crowd on here (including you) and PB thought police will pile on but tough it was an entirely reasonable comment
Nothing to do with anti Boris more the shame your comments bring on you and the fact you are a conservative party officer
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PS Why torture yourself, just don't watch it.
Leicesters new winger took a nice penalty. A bit anonymous otherwise though.
A foot from being the perfect penalty.
X being wrong doesn't make harsher thing Y ok or even equivalent. If you stand on my toe deliberately that's wrong, but I am more in the wrong if I respond by punching you.
Next year Qatar!
There was nothing remotely racist about it, if Rashford had spent as much time practising his football as he had campaigning against government policy who knows what might have happened.
He is a highly paid professional footballer at the end of the day, if he wants to be a full time political campaigner he should do so and give up the football
I guess you take your pleasures where you can find them.
England looked like worthy champions in the first half. So credit to Italy for turning that around.
Southgate took us to the World Cup Semi Finals, first time in twenty eight years and only achieved twice before.
And he took us to the Euro finals. First time ever.
His Knighthood is coming. Not tomorrow.... but he'll get it. His services to football practically guarantee it.
Quick guess here - Marcus R's commercial activities are going to take a hit after this game....
For the rest of his life he'll be wondering about the Rashford and Sancho substitutions.
A serious pillock..
We were just not quite good enough.
Next year maybe.
The better side won, which means justice was served.
The fact that we might have won it on penalties is another issue.
But I wouldn't go that far.
I'll say I'll slipped and fell.
You're a hyperinflated balloon, not a serious poster.
Qatar in June would have been hilarious!
Sleep well all.
It's hard to hate the Italians. Such a lovely country.
Wear you down through the years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWqmqGsTTBI
We're talking Mr Racist Bigot.
It's not a difficult spot.
England did well to get to the final but it was not the second coming
They don't call them maîtres de déguisement for nothing.
I know you'll insist you were entirely serious, you always do, but come on, I'm supposed to believe you actually think Rashford's penalty taking skills were in any way affected by his past campaigning? Pull the other one. As trolling goes its so blatant there's no way I could be outraged.
Brazil 1993-1996 and Spain 2007-2009.
I would have made exactly the same comment had Rashford been white
And you still plough on
Can see who is a sports/football fan and who isn't.