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Rory is a little too priggish towards the other candidates.0
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Boris wriggling and squirming.0
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The frothers are clearly rattled.TGOHF said:0 -
The majority of the electorate voted Leave, Boris will deliver that, it is diehard Remainers who have contempt for the electorateStuartDickson said:
Crikey. You’re full of yourself this evening.HYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.
You do realise that you’re taking an awful lot for granted here, including the electorate. They don’t like that.0 -
Christ, he's honestly worse than Trump.0
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So we can have a referendum on no deal v remain thenChris said:
Three months. Plenty of time for an election, referendum and renegotation.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are getting way ahead of yourself and sounding a bit derangedHYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
80 million of them, I believeArtist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
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It's going to be a very long time until I vote Conservative again, and as a natural Tory that makes me sad.0
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I am not a Boris fan but this constant digging at him with every question is really starting to irritate me.0
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How wide is it? I am deeply suspicious of both skinny ties, and overly wide ties.kinabalu said:
Great spot - and terribly worrying.TGOHF said:Boris has a Trump length tie.
Even the Tory electorate, who are the only ones who matter to Boris right now? Viability of any plans among wider electorate or parliament are irrelevant.StuartDickson said:
Crikey. You’re full of yourself this evening.HYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.
You do realise that you’re taking an awful lot for granted here, including the electorate. They don’t like that.0 -
Emily's raised her game. Bravo!
Boris is a clown. He fooled us for two minutes0 -
In the real world the Brexit Party lead the latest poll, so Brexit must be delivered or it may well be PM FarageIanB2 said:
In HY’s world the Tories have unity, purpose and mastery of Parliament. In the real world they’ve made us live through two years of never ending fiasco and failure and they just came fourth in a national election.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are getting way ahead of yourself and sounding a bit derangedHYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
Hunt is trying to do a Clegg 2010 by speaking directly into the camera, but his stare is a bit unsettling.0
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Hunt finally says something everyone can agree on - Sadiq Khan's hopeless.0
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You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
I think that response from Hunt is the best I've heard from him.0
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There are not three months business in the HOC. They go on holiday in a month, come back for a couple of weeks in September before conference seasonChris said:
Three months. Plenty of time for an election, referendum and renegotation.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are getting way ahead of yourself and sounding a bit derangedHYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
I think he is but he's got a lot to learn.Jonathan said:
He is not a Tory.Casino_Royale said:Where Rory is going wrong here is preceding his comments by saying "of course, as a Conservative, I believe in lower taxes, but.."
Instead, he appears to be attacking the entire prospect.0 -
Negotiations between Turkey and the EU re. accession have essentially been frozen since the attempted coup against Erdogan.PeterMannion said:
80 million of them, I believeArtist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
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The Tories were looking to turn on the spending taps somehow anyway - even when Cameron was still in charge they were starting to struggle getting the more controversial austerity through. That time is gone.OblitusSumMe said:Javid: "The country can afford to borrow more."
Corbyn cheers, Osborne jeers. Or tears.0 -
All candidates agree with Saj to have an external investigation into Islamophobia in the Tory Party.
Saj says as a man of Muslim background he is concerned by growing anti Muslim feeling in parts of Britain despite our diverse communities and despite being close friends with the US we can call out Trump when wrong
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Sharp work by Javid, getting unanimity on an independence investigation into Tory islamophobia; he’d moved on before BJ realises he’s been done and starts to chunter unsuccessfully.0
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Sure, but he at least claimed he wanted to borrow less. Javid's not likely to improve that record starting out with a view that he's comfortable increasing the national debt even further.another_richard said:
Do you know how much Osborne borrowed ?OblitusSumMe said:Javid: "The country can afford to borrow more."
Corbyn cheers, Osborne jeers. Or tears.0 -
Journalist:Chris said:
A Turkish politician.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
"Johnson's paternal great grandfather was Circassian-Turkish journalist Ali Kemal".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson0 -
Boris was too late in trying to say “hang on...”HYUFD said:All candidates agree with Saj to have an external investigation into Islamophobia in the Tory Party.
Saj says as a man of Muslim background he is concerned by growing anti Muslim feeling in parts of Britain despite our diverse communities and despite being close friends with the US we can call out Trump when wrong0 -
I'm 15 mins behind... but Rory has drifted like a barge to make the last 2.. why?0
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How on earth are the Tories going to attack Labour for unrealistic spending promises after this sh*t-show?1
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Well PB Tories, on the basis of tonight your party is fucked. Which would be ok, if our country wasn’t going to be fucked too.0
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Rory doesn’t seem to like much at all. He hasn’t called out Corbyn at all.0
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Just has not performed well, inexperience coming through perhaps.isam said:I'm 15 mins behind... but Rory has drifted like a barge to make the last 2.. why?
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The country has changed its mind, and if you take us out with no deal then you will be destroyed as a political force for a generation. Even with a deal the Tories are going to be eviscerated. Even if by some miracle Rory get into the play off v Boris, it is Tory diversity: which Eton/Balliol Oxford man will win...?HYUFD said:
The majority of the electorate voted Leave, Boris will deliver that, it is diehard Remainers who have contempt for the electorateStuartDickson said:
Crikey. You’re full of yourself this evening.HYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.
You do realise that you’re taking an awful lot for granted here, including the electorate. They don’t like that.0 -
No, diehard Remainers like you determined to stop Brexit by all means possible are about to face a PM who will take you on and deliver Brexit whether you like it or notChris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
I'd prefer a government which was honest about its borrowing than one which claimed it was 'paying down the debt' when doing the opposite.OblitusSumMe said:
Sure, but he at least claimed he wanted to borrow less. Javid's not likely to improve that record starting out with a view that he's comfortable increasing the national debt even further.another_richard said:
Do you know how much Osborne borrowed ?OblitusSumMe said:Javid: "The country can afford to borrow more."
Corbyn cheers, Osborne jeers. Or tears.0 -
WhoDanny565 said:Christ, he's honestly worse than Trump.
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Minister of the Interior counts as a politician.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Journalist:Chris said:
A Turkish politician.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
"Johnson's paternal great grandfather was Circassian-Turkish journalist Ali Kemal".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson0 -
You're a funny guy.HYUFD said:
No, diehard Remainers like you determined to stop Brexit by all means possible are about to face a PM who will take you on and deliver Brexit whether you like it or notChris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
Also briefly Minister of the Interior:Sunil_Prasannan said:
Journalist:Chris said:
A Turkish politician.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
"Johnson's paternal great grandfather was Circassian-Turkish journalist Ali Kemal".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal0 -
Wiki biography here.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal
Died horribly in 1922.
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Rory is proper weirdGallowgate said:
The frothers are clearly rattled.TGOHF said:0 -
Agreed. Thoroughly useless bunch. The Tory party just doesn’t deserve to survive this farce.Jonathan said:Well PB Tories, on the basis of tonight your party is fucked. Which would be ok, if our country wasn’t going to be fucked too.
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Oh, he is very real, it's just his certain truths are simulataneously very very certain and yet changeable.Chris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
He’s a Russian poll bot?Chris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
Maitless compares Rory to Greta whatsherface0
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Hyufd is real but lives in his own fantasy world full of unicornsChris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
And the rest aren’t?isam said:
Rory is proper weirdGallowgate said:
The frothers are clearly rattled.TGOHF said:0 -
Nurse! Nurse!HYUFD said:
No, diehard Remainers like you determined to stop Brexit by all means possible are about to face a PM who will take you on and deliver Brexit whether you like it or notChris said:
You've overdone it. You're not for real.HYUFD said:
For diehard Remainer whingers of course as they are only interested in blocking Brexit by any means possibleChris said:
Fantasy.HYUFD said:
It can be done in September if no renegotiation of the backstop by thenChris said:
He'll have held a referendum by 31 October? Does that come before or after negotiations with the EU?HYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.0 -
[Sunil scoffs Boris style]noneoftheabove said:
Minister of the Interior counts as a politician.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Journalist:Chris said:
A Turkish politician.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
"Johnson's paternal great grandfather was Circassian-Turkish journalist Ali Kemal".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
But seriously, didn't know he was killed during the Turks' War of Independence in 1922.0 -
The looking down is odd. I think he is thinking but it looks weirdanother_richard said:0 -
So far I think Gove has been the best. Javid also strong. Rory has been a bit of a mixed bag. Boris waffling but not really sinking his position as the favourite. Hunt OK.1
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Boris doesn't rule out Heathrow 3....0
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NO, the country has not changed its mind, which is why on the latest YouGov the Brexit Party would overtake the Tories and the BP and Tories and DUP combined would have a Commons majority with Farage PM.Cicero said:
The country has changed its mind, and if you take us out with no deal then you will be destroyed as a political force for a generation. Even with a deal the Tories are going to be eviscerated. Even if by some miracle Rory get into the play off v Boris, it is Tory diversity: which Eton/Balliol Oxford man will win...?HYUFD said:
The majority of the electorate voted Leave, Boris will deliver that, it is diehard Remainers who have contempt for the electorateStuartDickson said:
Crikey. You’re full of yourself this evening.HYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.
You do realise that you’re taking an awful lot for granted here, including the electorate. They don’t like that.
Boris will unite the Tories behind delivering Brexit Deal or No Deal and the BP will fade while the Labour party rips itself apart over EUref 2 and continues to see a flood of Remainers to the LDs and Greens
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Boris trying very hard not to smile on his own crookedness in Heathrow0
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Unconvincingly I assume, but they don't have lines they can use. They'll go hard on chaos under Corbyn hand in hand with the SNP too, and that one is not particularly convincing either.Gallowgate said:How on earth are the Tories going to attack Labour for unrealistic spending promises after this sh*t-show?
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I think Hunt has been good. Better than he was on C4.numbertwelve said:So far I think Gove has been the best. Javid also strong. Rory has been a bit of a mixed bag. Boris waffling but not really sinking his position as the favourite. Hunt OK.
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Relatively, noStuartDickson said:
And the rest aren’t?isam said:
Rory is proper weirdGallowgate said:
The frothers are clearly rattled.TGOHF said:0 -
Come on Boris answer the fucking question will you stop runway 3?0
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Scottish girl doesn’t ask question about independence - trust she will be hunted down and arrested by midnight ?StuartDickson said:
Agreed. Thoroughly useless bunch. The Tory party just doesn’t deserve to survive this farce.Jonathan said:Well PB Tories, on the basis of tonight your party is fucked. Which would be ok, if our country wasn’t going to be fucked too.
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Rory keeps staring at the floor.0
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Definitely one to add to HY’s growing pile of nonsense.HYUFD said:
NO, the country has not changed its mind, which is why on the latest YouGov the Brexit Party would overtake the Tories and the BP and Tories and DUP combined would have a Commons majority with Farage PM.Cicero said:
The country has changed its mind, and if you take us out with no deal then you will be destroyed as a political force for a generation. Even with a deal the Tories are going to be eviscerated. Even if by some miracle Rory get into the play off v Boris, it is Tory diversity: which Eton/Balliol Oxford man will win...?HYUFD said:
The majority of the electorate voted Leave, Boris will deliver that, it is diehard Remainers who have contempt for the electorateStuartDickson said:
Crikey. You’re full of yourself this evening.HYUFD said:
As a general election will be won by then tooBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever think before you post. How can the legislation for a NI referendum pass tge HOC by the 31st OctoberHYUFD said:
He will have held a referendum in NI on the backstop by thennoneoftheabove said:
Boris Johnson is the first to answer the first question. He says: "We must come out on the 31 October, otherwise we face a catastrophic loss of confidence in politics.HYUFD said:
He did at the very beginningnoneoftheabove said:
Maybe a different version being broadcast here but on my tv Boris did not commit to leave by October 31st, used virtually the same words as May did about March 31st.HYUFD said:Clear divisions emerging here, Boris and Saj both committing to leave on October 31st and to continue to prepare for No Deal even if aiming for a Deal and orderly Brexit.
Gove and Hunt prepared to extend a little more to get a Deal but will leave with No Deal as a last resort.
Rory says he would take No Deal off the table, Hunt says that means he would be willing to 'Stop Brexit'
Exactly what May said about March, without actually saying he would definitely no deal on October 31. Listening to him he is not going to no deal, which is a relief.
You do realise that you’re taking an awful lot for granted here, including the electorate. They don’t like that.
Boris will unite the Tories behind delivering Brexit Deal or No Deal and the BP will fade while the Labour party rips itself apart over EUref 2 and continues to see a flood of Remainers to the LDs and Greens0 -
Boris's handlers have told him to not explicitly make any definite commitments at all, and he's actually managing to stay on message thus far.0
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Happiest bloke on the planet must be Nigel Farage...0
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I'm not defending Osborne by any means, but borrowing more, now, before the next recession hits would be the most irresponsible fiscal act by any British government that I can think of.another_richard said:
I'd prefer a government which was honest about its borrowing than one which claimed it was 'paying down the debt' when doing the opposite.OblitusSumMe said:
Sure, but he at least claimed he wanted to borrow less. Javid's not likely to improve that record starting out with a view that he's comfortable increasing the national debt even further.another_richard said:
Do you know how much Osborne borrowed ?OblitusSumMe said:Javid: "The country can afford to borrow more."
Corbyn cheers, Osborne jeers. Or tears.0 -
Hunt and Gove doing well. Boris not especially strong tonight but no howlers. The other 2 are non runners.0
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Much improved by Gove compared to Sunday. Less grandstanding and comes across much better.numbertwelve said:So far I think Gove has been the best. Javid also strong. Rory has been a bit of a mixed bag. Boris waffling but not really sinking his position as the favourite. Hunt OK.
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Hunt looking most Prime Ministerial here.
The Saj not bad - seems like a genuinely nice and decent guy.0 -
Javid promises to invest in renewable energy and be a leader in clean energy0
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Tax cuts and more Public spending
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dr_spyn said:
Wiki biography here.Artist said:Does Boris have a Muslim Great-Grandfather?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal
Died horribly in 1922.0 -
The betting would suggest Gove and Hunt have performed better than Stewart0
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David Cameron and TMay must be laughing their socks off at these amateurs0
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Boris now trashing HY’s confident predictions of intending to go straight to the country0
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Five blathering idiots.0
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The future is incredibly grim.0
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I can't disagree with that.bigjohnowls said:Tax cuts and more Public spending
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Come back Dave Cameron.0
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You have to ignore what they're saying because it's crap but the only one I find a bit likeable is the very bland Jeremy Hunt
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Whose idea is this whole Heathrow malarkey?nichomar said:Come on Boris answer the fucking question will you stop runway 3?
May's? Hammond's?0 -
Boris does a May and rules out a general election. September nailed on0
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Well of course - he's a not weird looking middle aged white guy.Casino_Royale said:Hunt looking most Prime Ministerial here.
Not watching, but doesn't sound like there's anyone with the oomph factor to cut into Boris's huge lead with members.0 -
More Boris bollocks the situation is different than when brown took over0
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Darn. Here was I hoping you'd say the Tory leadership candidates had blown you away.Jonathan said:Well PB Tories, on the basis of tonight your party is fucked. Which would be ok, if our country wasn’t going to be fucked too.
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Boris has been crap, Hunt dull, Javid licking Boris’s arse, Rory hates Tories and Gove did a good job of kicking Jezza but not much else.0
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No general election
Good
The only sensible thing I have heard tonight
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Finish it off with a kebab?AndyJS said:0 -
This has been an utter shambles
Appalling chairing
Too much talking over one another
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Gove promises a detailed plan for the very poorest and to deliver growth and to send Corbyn 'the discredited Marxist back into the bin of history where you belong'0
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Scores On The Doors :
Javid -7 - Assured performance
Rory - 6 - Some good points but not a polished performance
Gove - 5.5 - Good on detail but tends to gabble. The stare was back.
Hunt - 5 - Patchy. Flat early on. Improved.
Boris - 4 - Weaknesses clearly on show.
Format didn't help any candidate.
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It's unavoidable...Ave_it said:No general election
Good
The only sensible thing I have heard tonight0