Fuck me, the “analysis” on here is grade-A predictable and might as well have been written 3 hours ago.
That would be a very, very slightly interesting claim if you had actually predicted it 3 hours ago, then. As it is it has almost a flavour of aftertiming about it.
Fuck me, the “analysis” on here is grade-A predictable and might as well have been written 3 hours ago.
That would be a very, very slightly interesting claim if you had actually predicted it 3 hours ago, then. As it is it has almost a flavour of aftertiming about it.
As you say. I find it hard to reach a judgement on opinions until one has seen them and been surprised, or not. Your approach may vary.
Come on Boris - buck up man! Your USP is not competence or political correctness or heavy gravitas (and it never will be) its being funny and care free !
Yeah: because being funny and care free is just what we need at a time like this.
This is actually getting beyond a joke what are we wasting time deciding which turd is better than the last turd in relation to saving a morally bankrupt Tory party rather than getting on with sorting out the uk problems. They don’t have to deliver brexit they need to have the courage to say there are more important things in life.
They do have to deliver Brexit otherwise it will be PM Farage on the latest poll and he will do it for them
Lol @ PM Farage.
There is the minor detail of winning a seat first.
You truly are clueless.
Latest YouGov of BP 24%, Tories 21%, Labour 21%, LDs 19% gives Labour 210, BP 159, Tories 155, SNP 56, LDs 47, Plaid 5, DUP 10.
So BP + Tories + DUP = 324 and a majority excluding SF with the BP the largest party of the 3
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
Even though my mother is a member of the Tories for more than 6 decades, I cannot fathom a party willing to consider Boris as Prime Minister.
I have no idea what other people see in Boris that makes them think "he should run the country". I can't rationalise it at all. It's like discovering that there a vast numbers of people who think that the Bay City Rollers are the greatest British band ever, and don't like the Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin etc.
Nice!
The Bay City Roller fans were totally nuts, but their excuse was they were 14 year old girls. The Borissettes are similarly homogenous, but late middle aged male Leavers.
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
HYUFD more or less admitted yesterday that he doesn't understand why the CDU/CSU won't form a coalition with the AfD.
Quite right. The one important thing we learned tonight is Boris has enough teflon coating to weasel out of the muslim woman=letterbox and Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe charges - God knows how he managed it but he did.
I thought Javid was hectoring and shouty in a self-before-party kind of way, but as everybody was firmly on the side of party-before-country, so what?
Depressing.
Don't you mean "Muslim woman wearing the veil = letterbox", surely!
Even though my mother is a member of the Tories for more than 6 decades, I cannot fathom a party willing to consider Boris as Prime Minister.
I have no idea what other people see in Boris that makes them think "he should run the country". I can't rationalise it at all. It's like discovering that there a vast numbers of people who think that the Bay City Rollers are the greatest British band ever, and don't like the Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin etc.
Nice!
The Bay City Roller fans were totally nuts, but their excuse was they were 14 year old girls. The Borissettes are similarly homogenous, but late middle aged male Leavers.
I wasn't even being particularly snarky about the Bay City Rollers, it's perfectly reasonable to like them, or indeed to like Boris. It's finding that there are so many people who think Boris is the best choice for PM that I can't fathom. What over the couple of decades he's been a public figure gives rise to such a sentiment?
I am hesitant to link in case I expose Mike - but for those interested its under the thread on RAF intercepting Russian fighters... yes not exactly on topic..... about 4th comment in
Those are one hell of a series of allegations.
They sure are
Worth a read. I wish the Electoral Commission would stop pussyfooting and put some serious resources into tackling voter manipulation.
And overspending on campaigns. And buying Machine Learning predictions based on illegally obtained voter data.
The problem is that even in blatant breeches, the election is never overturned or rerun, so it is worth breaking the law to win.
Javid -0 - Shit Rory - 0.5 - Slightly less shit than the others but still shit Gove - 0 - Shit obssessed with Corbyn Hunt - 0 - C*** Boris - minus infinity - Shittest of a shit bunch.
Yepp. That’s what is on offer for next PM. And some folk wonder why the Scots want out.
Boris will seal the deal for us, the sooner he is crowned King of England the better.
A Boris led Tories actually polled better in Scotland than under any other candidate with Comres, the Brexit Party are currently polling neck and neck with the Tories in Scotland so Boris largely reunites the right there just as he does in the rest of the UK.
Rory though did poll better in Scotland than in England so has the highest net positive rating from Scots compared to the rest of the UK.
Come on Boris - buck up man! Your USP is not competence or political correctness or heavy gravitas (and it never will be) its being funny and care free !
Yeah: because being funny and care free is just what we need at a time like this.
It would help
Neither preclude attention to detail and focus on the key issues
I am hesitant to link in case I expose Mike - but for those interested its under the thread on RAF intercepting Russian fighters... yes not exactly on topic..... about 4th comment in
Those are one hell of a series of allegations.
Not really.
The whole article is based around a single fact, that a convicted fraudster appears to be back inside the Labour Party and active in their local campaigning. Which is pretty poor; being convicted of electoral fraud ought to disqualify someone from Party membership/involvement just as much as precious extremism. And if true it is odd that Labour is denying his presence at the count if this was indeed witnessed by others.
But there isn’t any actual evidence of fraud having taken place in the election in that article, just a rehash of the existing rumours about some voters photographing their ballots, which by all accounts most of the polling clerks were diligent in challenging.
The fact that a few hundred postal votes were rejected because signatures didn’t match those on record is actually a good thing - suggesting the proper checks are being made.
What about the eye witness who allegedly saw people being bussed in and intimidated to vote despite not knowing what they were doing?
The article claims they were East Europeans, if so they wouldn't be on the register, but if they were naturalised is it any surprise that it wasn't difficult to persuade them to vote agaist a Brexit Party that hates them?
Read it properly, that allegation was from the 2017 election
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
HYUFD more or less admitted yesterday that he doesn't understand why the CDU/CSU won't form a coalition with the AfD.
Many in the CSU already would, if the SPD do deals with Linke and the Greens then I would expect even the CDU to start to consider it post Merkel
Even though my mother is a member of the Tories for more than 6 decades, I cannot fathom a party willing to consider Boris as Prime Minister.
I have no idea what other people see in Boris that makes them think "he should run the country". I can't rationalise it at all. It's like discovering that there a vast numbers of people who think that the Bay City Rollers are the greatest British band ever, and don't like the Stones, Beatles, Led Zeppelin etc.
Nice!
The Bay City Roller fans were totally nuts, but their excuse was they were 14 year old girls. The Borissettes are similarly homogenous, but late middle aged male Leavers.
I wasn't even being particularly snarky about the Bay City Rollers, it's perfectly reasonable to like them, or indeed to like Boris. It's finding that there are so many people who think Boris is the best choice for PM that I can't fathom. What over the couple of decades he's been a public figure gives rise to such a sentiment?
I agree that there is a time and a place for a Boris, such as in a pub on a Sunday late afternoon, persuading me to have another pint. But Prime Minister????
This is actually getting beyond a joke what are we wasting time deciding which turd is better than the last turd in relation to saving a morally bankrupt Tory party rather than getting on with sorting out the uk problems. They don’t have to deliver brexit they need to have the courage to say there are more important things in life.
They do have to deliver Brexit otherwise it will be PM Farage on the latest poll and he will do it for them
Lol @ PM Farage.
There is the minor detail of winning a seat first.
You truly are clueless.
Latest YouGov of BP 24%, Tories 21%, Labour 21%, LDs 19% gives Labour 210, BP 159, Tories 155, SNP 56, LDs 47, Plaid 5, DUP 10.
So BP + Tories + DUP = 324 and a majority excluding SF with the BP the largest party of the 3
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
Yes, if it keeps out Corbyn from No 10.
In Italy Salvini is currently leading the polls and his rightwing block with Berlusconi on course for a majority, in Austria the far right were in government until recently, in Poland the hard right are in government.
So you patronise me as much as you wish, I will continue to say what I think regardless
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
HYUFD more or less admitted yesterday that he doesn't understand why the CDU/CSU won't form a coalition with the AfD.
Many in the CSU already would, if the SPD do deals with Linke and the Greens then I would expect even the CDU to start to consider it most Merkel
This is actually getting beyond a joke what are we wasting time deciding which turd is better than the last turd in relation to saving a morally bankrupt Tory party rather than getting on with sorting out the uk problems. They don’t have to deliver brexit they need to have the courage to say there are more important things in life.
They do have to deliver Brexit otherwise it will be PM Farage on the latest poll and he will do it for them
Lol @ PM Farage.
There is the minor detail of winning a seat first.
Even if we overlook your absurdist faith in the polls and inability to conceive of how events may unfold, do you seriously think Tory MPs would settle for junior partner in a coalition under a Farage PM?
As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
HYUFD more or less admitted yesterday that he doesn't understand why the CDU/CSU won't form a coalition with the AfD.
Many in the CSU already would, if the SPD do deals with Linke and the Greens then I would expect even the CDU to start to consider it most Merkel
The CSU see the AfD as electoral enemies.
If the SPD links up with Linke and the Greens to try and keep the CSU as well as AfD out of power that will change rapidly. Indeed the CSU invited Kurz not Merkel to their election rallies when he was in alliance with the Austrian far right Freedom Party
What was crap tonight were the pathetic woke questions about the environment and Islamphobia - as if the leadership election will be fought on those topics.
What was crap tonight were the pathetic woke questions about the environment and Islamphobia - as if the leadership election will be fought on those topics.
Valid questions. There's a green wave sweeping Europe, and it's one of one of the candidates' USPs: Gove has made a huge deal about his green credentials. The possibility of an islamophobic leader, namely Boris, is as serious as an antisemitic leader of the opposition. More so, in fact.
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As Foxy says, your political understanding is seriously weak. Look around Europe and you will see how leaders of right wing nationalist parties are frozen out of power, and rightly so.
The Bay City Roller fans were totally nuts, but their excuse was they were 14 year old girls. The Borissettes are similarly homogenous, but late middle aged male Leavers.
The current lot are like using AirBnB and finding you let to a raver...
forgotten your name
The RivieraPB.com, darling. People get away with everything!"The problem is that even in blatant breeches, the election is never overturned or rerun, so it is worth breaking the law to win.
Neither preclude attention to detail and focus on the key issues
In Italy Salvini is currently leading the polls and his rightwing block with Berlusconi on course for a majority, in Austria the far right were in government until recently, in Poland the hard right are in government.
So you patronise me as much as you wish, I will continue to say what I think regardless
The possibility of an islamophobic leader, namely Boris, is as serious as an antisemitic leader of the opposition. More so, in fact.