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Was Sheryll Murray on your list (she now says she'll support it)?AlastairMeeks said:
Looks like a good time to bet against it to me. The votes just don’t look to be there yet. There are still too many staunch holdouts.Philip_Thompson said:
It's over.Drutt said:CROSSOVER KLAXON.
MV3 to pass is now odds on, at least at WmHills. Evs or thereabouts elsewhere.0 -
Put that to your Tory friends and I can't see them saying "Great, HY, let's go for it!"HYUFD said:
As I said before I would expect sadly a repeat of February 1974, May like Heath says 'who governs Britain' the public says 'Not You'. Though like Feb 1974 it would be very close, remember Heath won the popular vote and a majority in England even if Wilson won most seats across the UK.IanB2 said:
If the Tories call another snap GE and the reason has anything to do with Brexit, I expect they will be in for another surprise.HYUFD said:
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs UnionIanB2 said:
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.HYUFD said:
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNPAndyJS said:I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
I would then expect Corbyn to become PM on a platform of negotiating Single Market and Customs Union BINO with the EU propped up by the SNP while Boris wins the Tory leadership on a hard Brexit platform after May resigns and Boris then becomes Leader of the Opposition0 -
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.0 -
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
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I live in Chadsmoor, if that's any help.JackW said:
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
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This extension motion is simply going to be a count of ERG support on the no side, with everyone else in favour0
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Yes, so far my fake irreconcilable list is Conor Burns, Boris Johnson, Sherryl Murray and Henry Smith. The rump stands at 34 including Suella Braverman.Sean_F said:
Was Sheryll Murray on your list (she now says she'll support it)?AlastairMeeks said:
Looks like a good time to bet against it to me. The votes just don’t look to be there yet. There are still too many staunch holdouts.Philip_Thompson said:
It's over.Drutt said:CROSSOVER KLAXON.
MV3 to pass is now odds on, at least at WmHills. Evs or thereabouts elsewhere.0 -
If Theres's deal goes through on Friday I wonder if she will stand down as Con leader next week but stay on as PM to over see us leaving the EU on 22nd May.
A Con leadership election takes around two months so that would mean the new leader takes over as PM just after Brexit Day - It also means the Summer (June or July) is freed up for a general election.0 -
A recent poll suggested 61:39 in favour of remain over May' s deal in any referendum ; something the Tories may have briefly forgotten tonight.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.
In fact those numbers are more decisive than any of the questions listed below - it's the getting to the referendum that's roughly as contentious as some of the others, which is certainly a bit illogical.0 -
That's a decent summary I think. If one wishes to be less pejorative, 'ERG true believers' will never switch is fine.another_richard said:
The ERG pragmatists switched on MV2.Slackbladder said:https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1110983859007639552
This is exposing the pragmatists and the hard core of the ERG.
The ERG posturers are switching now.
The ERG nutters will never switch.0 -
Boris would like it.IanB2 said:
Put that to your Tory friends and I can't see them saying "Great, HY, let's go for it!"HYUFD said:
As I said before I would expect sadly a repeat of February 1974, May like Heath says 'who governs Britain' the public says 'Not You'. Though like Feb 1974 it would be very close, remember Heath won the popular vote and a majority in England even if Wilson won most seats across the UK.IanB2 said:
If the Tories call another snap GE and the reason has anything to do with Brexit, I expect they will be in for another surprise.HYUFD said:
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs UnionIanB2 said:
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.HYUFD said:
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNPAndyJS said:I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
I would then expect Corbyn to become PM on a platform of negotiating Single Market and Customs Union BINO with the EU propped up by the SNP while Boris wins the Tory leadership on a hard Brexit platform after May resigns and Boris then becomes Leader of the Opposition0 -
I'd take that price.rkrkrk said:Esther McVey value at over 100/1 for next Tory leader?
Edit: spoke too soon, looks to be all gone on betfair.0 -
What might swing the DUP? They already have a £1B splurge of general funding for NI. Add your suggestions here.Philip_Thompson said:
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.RobinWiggs said:
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.HYUFD said:
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the DealCasino_Royale said:
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?HYUFD said:Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
(1) Ministerial jag for Arlene?
(2) Ireland kicked out of 6N?
(3) A laser big enough to write F*CK THE POPE on the moon?
(4) Wood pellet burner for Westminster?
(5) Ban Riverdance?0 -
Well if there was a plausible option they liked, they probably wouldn't be in favour of a referendum.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.0 -
(2) Except that Ireland plays as a single nation in the Rugby!Drutt said:
What might swing the DUP? They already have a £1B splurge of general funding for NI. Add your suggestions here.Philip_Thompson said:
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.RobinWiggs said:
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.HYUFD said:
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the DealCasino_Royale said:
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?HYUFD said:Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
(1) Ministerial jag for Arlene?
(2) Ireland kicked out of 6N?
(3) A laser big enough to write F*CK THE POPE on the moon?
(4) Wood pellet burner for Westminster?
(5) Ban Riverdance?
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Er .... No ....ydoethur said:
I live in Chadsmoor, if that's any help.JackW said:
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
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Yes was almost evens earlier, but now sliding back out, 2.42 now.
The arithmetic is still awful with the DUP against. Even with it's not guaranteed.0 -
Opinium however, have 45/55, and Survation 50/50. It depends how many Leavers abstain or vote for it.WhisperingOracle said:
A recent poll suggested 61:39 in favour of remain over May' s deal in any referendum ; something the Tories may have briefly forgotten tonight.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.0 -
Ex-mining village. Not distinguished in architecture but I like it.JackW said:
Er .... No ....ydoethur said:
I live in Chadsmoor, if that's any help.JackW said:
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
Most famous as the birthplace of the greatest bowler who ever lived.0 -
Apparently a direct quote from Steve Baker's impassioned speech to the ERG: "I could tear this place down and bulldoze it into the river"0
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Aren't those figures for Remain / Leave, though, rather than specifically for Remain / May's Deal ?Sean_F said:
Opinium however, have 45/55, and Survation 50/50. It depends how many Leavers abstain or vote for it.WhisperingOracle said:
A recent poll suggested 61:39 in favour of remain over May' s deal in any referendum ; something the Tories may have briefly forgotten tonight.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.0 -
The DUP can do the maths and see the writing on the wall. They know that there's zero reason for them to switch early but by switching late they can name their price. Plus if they don't give in then they risk PM Corbyn. Plus they've flown kites about potentially backing it if they get the right assurances.Drutt said:
What might swing the DUP? They already have a £1B splurge of general funding for NI. Add your suggestions here.Philip_Thompson said:
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.RobinWiggs said:
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.HYUFD said:
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the DealCasino_Royale said:
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?HYUFD said:Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
(1) Ministerial jag for Arlene?
(2) Ireland kicked out of 6N?
(3) A laser big enough to write F*CK THE POPE on the moon?
(4) Wood pellet burner for Westminster?
(5) Ban Riverdance?
They'll be given assurances to guarantee no internal UK barriers and coincidentally another billion splurged on Northern Ireland for entirely unrelated reasons.
"I don't know what assurances May has given the DUP, but Northern Ireland now has a space program".0 -
The ERG are mad aren't they. I mean absolutely barking.0
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What a knob he really isIanB2 said:Apparently a direct quote from Steve Baker's impassioned speech to the ERG: "I could tear this place down and bulldoze it into the river"
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The Revolutionary Conservative Party.IanB2 said:Apparently a direct quote from Steve Baker's impassioned speech to the ERG: "I could tear this place down and bulldoze it into the river"
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Cutting through the airy persiflage of today, I still cannot see the numbers for the May deal. No DUP and without the Tory BREXIT and REMAIN rebels and she's still well short.GIN1138 said:If Theres's deal goes through on Friday I wonder if she will stand down as Con leader next week but stay on as PM to over see us leaving the EU on 22nd May.
A Con leadership election takes around two months so that would mean the new leader takes over as PM just after Brexit Day - It also means the Summer (June or July) is freed up for a general election.0 -
You mean being styled as "the guardians of the union" or whatever JRM called them today isn't enough?Drutt said:
What might swing the DUP? They already have a £1B splurge of general funding for NI. Add your suggestions here.Philip_Thompson said:
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.RobinWiggs said:
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.HYUFD said:
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the DealCasino_Royale said:
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?HYUFD said:Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
(1) Ministerial jag for Arlene?
(2) Ireland kicked out of 6N?
(3) A laser big enough to write F*CK THE POPE on the moon?
(4) Wood pellet burner for Westminster?
(5) Ban Riverdance?0 -
Cash insisting both Commons and Lords approval is needed to postpone EU exit. He must be close to the mystery Betfair punter; first mention of the Lords. I wonder who they have lined up for tomorrow's attempted filibuster?0
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What gave it away?rottenborough said:The ERG are mad aren't they. I mean absolutely barking.
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So with TM going the PD is no longer meaningless. It is now utterly meaningless.
MV on the WA only to pass soon.0 -
The irreconciliables must have something in mind otherwise their continued opposition makes no sense.IanB2 said:Cash insisting both Commons and Lords approval is needed to postpone EU exit. He must be close to the mystery Betfair punter; first mention of the Lords. I wonder who they have lined up for tomorrow's attempted filibuster?
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So Muttiah Muralitharan only played for Sri Lanka by residency ?!?ydoethur said:
Ex-mining village. Not distinguished in architecture but I like it.JackW said:
Er .... No ....ydoethur said:
I live in Chadsmoor, if that's any help.JackW said:
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
Most famous as the birthplace of the greatest bowler who ever lived.0 -
Yep. In fact I'd put them a few stops on from Barking - roughly Upminster.rottenborough said:The ERG are mad aren't they. I mean absolutely barking.
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Let him resign the whip - it loses him whatever influence he might think he has.Scott_P said:
No party needs idiots like that running round shooting his mouth off0 -
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:0 -
It's the person piling £thousands onto apparently lost bets that interests meNorm said:
The irreconciliables must have something in mind otherwise their continued opposition makes no sense.IanB2 said:Cash insisting both Commons and Lords approval is needed to postpone EU exit. He must be close to the mystery Betfair punter; first mention of the Lords. I wonder who they have lined up for tomorrow's attempted filibuster?
The ERG were going to oppose regardless. But big bets like that imply some sort of plan0 -
And that's assuming they're even allowed to vote on itJackW said:
Cutting through the airy persiflage of today, I still cannot see the numbers for the May deal. No DUP and without the Tory BREXIT and REMAIN rebels and she's still well short.GIN1138 said:If Theres's deal goes through on Friday I wonder if she will stand down as Con leader next week but stay on as PM to over see us leaving the EU on 22nd May.
A Con leadership election takes around two months so that would mean the new leader takes over as PM just after Brexit Day - It also means the Summer (June or July) is freed up for a general election.0 -
On checking it was actually where he died. He was born in Smethwick.JackW said:
So Muttiah Muralitharan only played for Sri Lanka by residency ?!?ydoethur said:
Ex-mining village. Not distinguished in architecture but I like it.JackW said:
Er .... No ....ydoethur said:
I live in Chadsmoor, if that's any help.JackW said:
Are there any suicidal ERG members named Chad?oxfordsimon said:I wonder whether there will be any hanging chads tonight
Most famous as the birthplace of the greatest bowler who ever lived.
But Sydney F. Barnes was a Chadsmoor man.0 -
Because it is not a Deal. It is a non-Deal because so much is left undecided. All that has really been decided is that the UK will have thrown all its best cards away for the next phase of negotiations.AndyJS said:I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
Who leads the UK in that next phase of negotiation nonetheless matters and that is why the prospect of May going does at least sugar the pill slightly.0 -
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Better still withdraw the whip from himoxfordsimon said:
Let him resign the whip - it loses him whatever influence he might think he has.Scott_P said:
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I entirely agree with him about fools, knaves and cowards voting on things they don't even understand.AlastairMeeks said:
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:
I'm just amazed he's sufficiently self aware to realise it.0 -
I was imagining the Monty Python theme tuneAlastairMeeks said:
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:0 -
A single tiny, tiny, tiny violin, perhaps?AlastairMeeks said:I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.
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isam might not like that remarkRecidivist said:
Yep. In fact I'd put them a few stops on from Barking - roughly Upminster.rottenborough said:The ERG are mad aren't they. I mean absolutely barking.
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Keep David Lidington onside in the betting. I doubt others would share her view.Scott_P said:0 -
While I think that MPs can be quite mercenary, I am less convinced than PB Tories that bribery can get either the DUP or Labour rebels into May's lobby. Indeed May standing down in favour of probably a hard Brexiteer is likely to push them away. I can't see it working myself.Philip_Thompson said:
The DUP can do the maths and see the writing on the wall. They know that there's zero reason for them to switch early but by switching late they can name their price. Plus if they don't give in then they risk PM Corbyn. Plus they've flown kites about potentially backing it if they get the right assurances.Drutt said:
What might swing the DUP? They already have a £1B splurge of general funding for NI. Add your suggestions here.Philip_Thompson said:
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.RobinWiggs said:
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.HYUFD said:
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the DealCasino_Royale said:
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?HYUFD said:Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
(1) Ministerial jag for Arlene?
(2) Ireland kicked out of 6N?
(3) A laser big enough to write F*CK THE POPE on the moon?
(4) Wood pellet burner for Westminster?
(5) Ban Riverdance?
They'll be given assurances to guarantee no internal UK barriers and coincidentally another billion splurged on Northern Ireland for entirely unrelated reasons.
"I don't know what assurances May has given the DUP, but Northern Ireland now has a space program".0 -
Falstaff.AlastairMeeks said:
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:0 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
Better still withdraw the whip from himoxfordsimon said:
Let him resign the whip - it loses him whatever influence he might think he has.Scott_P said:
No party needs idiots like that running round shooting his mouth offNo more messing around. Let them join The Brexit Party.
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I will vote Labour (as I have done for over 50 years) - if Jeremy Corben agrees to go.
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LOL Cable knows so much about dignity doesn't he!
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Be careful though. He's got a temper. And a bulldozer. Apparently.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Better still withdraw the whip from himoxfordsimon said:
Let him resign the whip - it loses him whatever influence he might think he has.Scott_P said:
No party needs idiots like that running round shooting his mouth off0 -
I have been in the pub for several hours. Can someone round up for me what’s going down in Chinatown?0
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I'm imagining it being said in a quavering Jordan Peterson voiceAlastairMeeks said:
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:0 -
Who?dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/NicolaRBartlett/status/1110994160386039808
Melanie Onn off.0 -
My wallet is screaming 'Yeeeessss'!!!AlastairMeeks said:
Keep David Lidington onside in the betting. I doubt others would share her view.Scott_P said:0 -
Shall I have his people hammer out the details with your people?junius said:I will vote Labour (as I have done for over 50 years) - if Jeremy Corben agrees to go.
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No, May's Deal/Remain.WhisperingOracle said:
Aren't those figures for Remain / Leave, though, rather than specifically for Remain / May's Deal ?Sean_F said:
Opinium however, have 45/55, and Survation 50/50. It depends how many Leavers abstain or vote for it.WhisperingOracle said:
A recent poll suggested 61:39 in favour of remain over May' s deal in any referendum ; something the Tories may have briefly forgotten tonight.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
Maybe Parliament is merely reflecting the nation.0 -
Bill Cash going off on one0
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By the way, when are we going to get the indicative vote results?0
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45 minutes timeStereotomy said:By the way, when are we going to get the indicative vote results?
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BBC News running clips of what Mogg, Boris, DD etc have said about the deal in the past and what they are saying now.
It’s all very funny.0 -
Looks like a range of views then, generally from strongly opposed to May's deal to mildly opposed. One thing that could sway some Tory voters is the new-found love, marshmallows and kisses for it from Boris and company, though, I suppose.Sean_F said:
No, May's Deal/Remain.WhisperingOracle said:
Aren't those figures for Remain / Leave, though, rather than specifically for Remain / May's Deal ?Sean_F said:
Opinium however, have 45/55, and Survation 50/50. It depends how many Leavers abstain or vote for it.WhisperingOracle said:
A recent poll suggested 61:39 in favour of remain over May' s deal in any referendum ; something the Tories may have briefly forgotten tonight.ydoethur said:
Interesting to note that the public favour a referendum yet reject any plausible option that might be on it.williamglenn said:
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45 minutes timeStereotomy said:By the way, when are we going to get the indicative vote results?
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The Mrs Slocombe's Pussy Option.Scott_P said:0 -
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It really is very pathetic.Gallowgate said:BBC News running clips of what Mogg, Boris, DD etc have said about the deal in the past and what they are saying now.
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My takes on Theresa May's self sacrifice to the false ERG god:
1. The ERG rationalisation that May's resignation makes a bad deal worthwhile is that what happens next is decided entirely by the ERG as part of their control of the next Tory leader. This needs to take no account of what parliament or the country wants.
2. Labour MPs have even less reason to vote for May's Deal.
3. Brexit destroys the DUP reputation for being wily political operators. They made their first mistake by supporting a Brexit that destabilises Northern Ireland. They compounded their mistake by throwing their lot in with the ERG, when a customs union would get them out of their backstop trap. I wouldn't rule out the DUP making a third mistake (from their PoV) by voting for May's Deal that doesn't include a customs union. However...
4. I think it's quite likely that MP votes will indicate something that includes a customs union. And ...
5. Don't imagine Brexit will be settled any time soon. Limbo will continue for years yet, at the grace and favour of the EU in terms of rolling over extensions.0 -
I had an 'onn/off switch' pun lined up since I heard that Lab was whipping for Kyle/Wilson/Beckett but missed her resignation.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/NicolaRBartlett/status/1110994160386039808
Melanie Onn off.
Wait, has Charlie Faulkner gone too?0 -
I wonder how gung-ho the Tory Remainers are?MaxPB said:
I think we're already there.No_Offence_Alan said:Is there some point at which the number of ERG holdouts is few enough to whip?
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They're begrudgingly coming around to back what you want. There's no need to gloat.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It really is very pathetic.Gallowgate said:BBC News running clips of what Mogg, Boris, DD etc have said about the deal in the past and what they are saying now.
It’s all very funny.0 -
Just backed Steve Baker at long odds. If Corbyn can win the Labour leadership...0
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The assumption appears to be that if May's deal passes the Tory leadership contest is primed to start the day after exit day in late May but the PM stays in office as leader and PM until the contest is concluded. Puts a possible departure date into late summer, I guess?
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"Did Magna Carta die in vain?"AlastairMeeks said:
I can hear strings playing Elgar in the background.Scott_P said:
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Those who apparently needed May’s head on a platter to support the deal are just scum, plain and simple.0
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😲Pulpstar said:Just backed Steve Baker at long odds. If Corbyn can win the Labour leadership...
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The thought of that made me ill.Pulpstar said:Just backed Steve Baker at long odds. If Corbyn can win the Labour leadership...
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They changed their mind due to external circumstances. Are the BBC suggesting that nobody should change their mind, ever?Gallowgate said:BBC News running clips of what Mogg, Boris, DD etc have said about the deal in the past and what they are saying now.
It’s all very funny.
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Ydoethur's name is " y doethur", which is Welsh for "The Doctor". Unfortunately there has never been a Welsh Doctor Who, so the obvious joke goes unspoken...Omnium said:
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.ydoethur said:
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.Omnium said:
A firm of solicitors has never held office.TheScreamingEagles said:
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1110971801503498241
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Lmao seeing Steve Bakers meltdown !0
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Betfair Exchange thinks Ken Clarke's Custom Union will get a majority.0
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Being a PB loyalist, and going to PB before the BBC site, I must be the only person in the whole country who learned of Melanie Onn’s resignation before I learned of Theresa May’s.0