Oh, and as others have said, a load of bollocks from the EU in the last couple of days on internet content and car regulations, doing a good job of reminding a lot of people why they voted to leave in the first place.
And, the European Parliament voted to ban either BST or GMT from 2022 this week, so we’ll have to decide which one we have to keep and the clocks won’t go back/forth anymore.
Off the back of a public consultation of which 70% of the responses were from Germany, as I understand it, and I personally wasn’t even aware of.
Yes that's a load of crap. Personally I hope we keep daylight savings time. GMT suits us in the winter and BST suits us in the summer.
The less northerly a nation the less of a reason there is for daylight savings, so of course it makes sense that Germany is different to the UK or Scandinavia. American can cope with some states having daylight savings and others not, this is the sort of total BS that should be decided by nations and has nothing to do with CE marks or anything else the EU should be getting involved in.
If it were up to me, I'd add half an hour to both GMT and BST and I'd put the clocks forward on the first Sunday in March rather than the last.
can we fix easter while we're at it? first sunday in april perhaps.
Easter’s easy, the dates are fixed years in advance.
Try living in a Muslim country, where they need to actually see the new moon to confirm the date - which leads to people finding out at 9pm or thereabouts whether the holiday is on the next day or the day after...
Eh ? The lunar cycles don't change much !
The weather can.
I'm more interested in the loony cycles going on in the Commons right now.
Has anyone worked out what happens if the Commons comes to its senses and the Lords vote it down? Or does it only have to pass one house?
What's "it"?
The Withdrawal Agreement. That's doubly embarrassing as I have just smeared much red ink all over Year 10's books where they start answers with the word 'It's...'
If the Lords votes down the WAIB they'd be risking no deal. Not going to happen.
They don't get a vote. The best they can do, I believe, is make suggestions.
They'd get a vote on the WAIB (Withdrawal Agreement Implementation Bill).
If China can cope with one time zone then so should the EU.
If you'd been to China you wouldn't say that, it's completely stupid in some parts.
All that Jinping about between time zones is tiresome though.
If we keep GMT (i.e. this funny thing called real time) and the EU impose a different time zone, won't that create a hard border in Ireland?
GMT is real time on (and only on) the Greenwich meridian; so for instance in real real time, 9 pm at Greenwich is 9.05 in Oxford.
And 9.18 in Penzance.
But if we move to GMT+1 then nowhere will be on the right time.
Tough. The present system waits till things are getting miserable in late October, and then makes it much worse, and waits till the evenings are brightening up so much that it doesn't really matter before changing back.
Claire Ellicott @ClaireEllicott1 Steve Baker storms out and says 'no comment' when asked about the deal. An angry-looking Mark Francois shouts 'no'
They will never, ever, surrender.
The final holdouts
It looks like it's all panning out like the Guardian projected earlier: the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg flipping, but 15 holdouts from the ERG along with the DUP, resulting in the deal failing by 42 votes:
If China can cope with one time zone then so should the EU.
If you'd been to China you wouldn't say that, it's completely stupid in some parts.
All that Jinping about between time zones is tiresome though.
If we keep GMT (i.e. this funny thing called real time) and the EU impose a different time zone, won't that create a hard border in Ireland?
GMT is real time on (and only on) the Greenwich meridian; so for instance in real real time, 9 pm at Greenwich is 9.05 in Oxford.
And 9.18 in Penzance.
But if we move to GMT+1 then nowhere will be on the right time.
Tough. The present system waits till things are getting miserable in late October, and then makes it much worse, and waits till the evenings are brightening up so much that it doesn't really matter before changing back.
Yup. It really says as much about the inadequacies of a UK-wide time as an EU-wide time would.
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?
A firm of solicitors has never held office.
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.
I must have been busy today, because that makes no sense at all and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol (unless somebody's been monkeying with my tap).
Would you mind explaining?
Sorry. Just nonsense. However as an explanation - you have an unpronouncable PB moniker. One might imagine that you'd had your real name stolen and rearranged. Thus you might need a lawyer. Jarndice vs Janrdice is the fictional worlds most famous lawyerly thing. My theme was of course influenced by Kafka.
Right. OK. That sort of makes sense.
The only thing I would say is that my moniker is nothing to do with my name, and is in fact a real phrase spelled phonetically.
I will admit it is a real phrase spelled phonetically in Welsh, but that doesn't make it unpronounceable.
Just nonsense as I said. There's sometimes an attraction in spinning out daft stories and seeing if anyone is with you at the end. I guess I'll refund your ride, but I'd hope not to see you in the complaints queue.
If China can cope with one time zone then so should the EU.
If you'd been to China you wouldn't say that, it's completely stupid in some parts.
All that Jinping about between time zones is tiresome though.
If we keep GMT (i.e. this funny thing called real time) and the EU impose a different time zone, won't that create a hard border in Ireland?
GMT is real time on (and only on) the Greenwich meridian; so for instance in real real time, 9 pm at Greenwich is 9.05 in Oxford.
And 9.18 in Penzance.
But if we move to GMT+1 then nowhere will be on the right time.
Tough. The present system waits till things are getting miserable in late October, and then makes it much worse, and waits till the evenings are brightening up so much that it doesn't really matter before changing back.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?
A firm of solicitors has never held office.
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.
I must have been busy today, because that makes no sense at all and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol (unless somebody's been monkeying with my tap).
Would you mind explaining?
Sorry. Just nonsense. However as an explanation - you have an unpronouncable PB moniker. One might imagine that you'd had your real name stolen and rearranged. Thus you might need a lawyer. Jarndice vs Janrdice is the fictional worlds most famous lawyerly thing. My theme was of course influenced by Kafka.
Right. OK. That sort of makes sense.
The only thing I would say is that my moniker is nothing to do with my name, and is in fact a real phrase spelled phonetically.
I will admit it is a real phrase spelled phonetically in Welsh, but that doesn't make it unpronounceable.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?
A firm of solicitors has never held office.
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.
I must have been busy today, because that makes no sense at all and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol (unless somebody's been monkeying with my tap).
Would you mind explaining?
Sorry. Just nonsense. However as an explanation - you have an unpronouncable PB moniker. One might imagine that you'd had your real name stolen and rearranged. Thus you might need a lawyer. Jarndice vs Janrdice is the fictional worlds most famous lawyerly thing. My theme was of course influenced by Kafka.
Right. OK. That sort of makes sense.
The only thing I would say is that my moniker is nothing to do with my name, and is in fact a real phrase spelled phonetically.
I will admit it is a real phrase spelled phonetically in Welsh, but that doesn't make it unpronounceable.
Always assumed it was "Why do either?".
I had it down as Welsh for "the doctor", in a Dr Whoish sort of way.
This is exposing the pragmatists and the hard core of the ERG.
The ERG pragmatists switched on MV2. The ERG posturers are switching now. The ERG nutters will never switch.
They'll switch. Friday is Brexit day they are not going to risk Parliament taking control on Monday again and vote against Brexit on Brexit day. It's over.
I know these things go down to the last hour but that is literally happening now. If the result is announced at 10pm on Friday then at the literal last hour the deal is passed.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
It's just the sort of cynical politicking that the public abhors. I agree with Anna Soubry who's saying precisely this on Channel 4 News at the moment.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?
A firm of solicitors has never held office.
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.
I must have been busy today, because that makes no sense at all and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol (unless somebody's been monkeying with my tap).
Would you mind explaining?
Sorry. Just nonsense. However as an explanation - you have an unpronouncable PB moniker. One might imagine that you'd had your real name stolen and rearranged. Thus you might need a lawyer. Jarndice vs Janrdice is the fictional worlds most famous lawyerly thing. My theme was of course influenced by Kafka.
Right. OK. That sort of makes sense.
The only thing I would say is that my moniker is nothing to do with my name, and is in fact a real phrase spelled phonetically.
I will admit it is a real phrase spelled phonetically in Welsh, but that doesn't make it unpronounceable.
Always assumed it was "Why do either?".
I had it down as Welsh for "the doctor", in a Dr Whoish sort of way.
Give the man an amusing animal stamp. That is indeed what it means.
For those in doubt, in English phonetics it's pronounced uh DOY theer.
Have I ever mentioned I tipped Hunt, Lidington, and Hancock at 100/1?
A firm of solicitors has never held office.
Lloyd George, Roberts and Co. says hello.
Ah so that's the firm you've been using for the work on the accidental scrambling of your name. Have you considered that the ostensible partners haven't been seen since the 1920s? I realise that there's precedent in slow progress, but Jarndice aside you may want to consider the state of affairs. I realise this may be unwelcome news, but you may die before the wise posts you've made on PB are correctly attributed to yourself.
I must have been busy today, because that makes no sense at all and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol (unless somebody's been monkeying with my tap).
Would you mind explaining?
Sorry. Just nonsense. However as an explanation - you have an unpronouncable PB moniker. One might imagine that you'd had your real name stolen and rearranged. Thus you might need a lawyer. Jarndice vs Janrdice is the fictional worlds most famous lawyerly thing. My theme was of course influenced by Kafka.
Right. OK. That sort of makes sense.
The only thing I would say is that my moniker is nothing to do with my name, and is in fact a real phrase spelled phonetically.
I will admit it is a real phrase spelled phonetically in Welsh, but that doesn't make it unpronounceable.
Always assumed it was "Why do either?".
I had it down as Welsh for "the doctor", in a Dr Whoish sort of way.
One up on me. I never twigged it was Welsh. Which is bleeding obvious I now see...
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Hmm. An interesting suggestion, and quite possible, I think.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs Union
If China can cope with one time zone then so should the EU.
In Xinjiang, two time standards, namely, Beijing Time and Xinjiang Time, are used in parallel.[4][5] Xinjiang Time, also known as Ürümqi Time (Chinese: 乌鲁木齐时间; pinyin: Wūlǔmùqí Shíjiān), is set due to its geographical location in the westernmost part of the country.[9] The time offset is UTC+06:00, which is two hours behind Beijing, and is shared with neighbouring Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. [..] The coexistence of two timezones within the same region causes some confusion among the local population, especially when inter-racial communication occurs. When a time is mentioned in conversation between Han and Uyghur, it is necessary to either explicitly make clear whether the time is in Xinjiang Time or Beijing Time, or convert the time according to the ethnicity of the other party.[13][14][15] The double time standard is particularly observable in Xinjiang Television, which schedules its Chinese channel according to Beijing time and its Uyghur and Kazakh channels according to Xinjiang time. [16] Regardless, Beijing Time users in Xinjiang usually schedule their daily activities two hours later than those who live in eastern China. As such, stores and offices in Xinjiang are commonly open from 10am to 7pm Beijing Time, which equals 8am to 5pm in Ürümqi Time.[17] This is known as the work/rest time in Xinjiang.[18] In most areas of Xinjiang, the opening time of local authorities is additionally modified by shifting the morning session 30–60 minutes backward and the afternoon session 30 minutes forward to extend the lunch break for 60–90 minutes, so as to avoid the intense heat during noon time in the area during summer.[12]
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Moreover, May has just basically promised a Brexiteer to negotiate a trade deal...
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
It's just the sort of cynical politicking that the public abhors. I agree with Anna Soubry who's saying precisely this on Channel 4 News at the moment.
Indeed. All we've heard for months and months is what a crap deal this is. Now May has gone...it isn't. Of course it is more complex, but you could not blame the casual observer from thinking that.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
If every Tory MP last time had backed the Deal it would have passed.
If she's still a few short May should do a Maastricht Major and call it a confidence vote with withdrawal of the whip for any who vote against.
Will cost her a few Labour Leavers but put the DUP on the spot.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs Union
If the Tories call another snap GE and the reason has anything to do with Brexit, I expect they will be in for another surprise.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.
For an unrelated billion and a face saving gesture they may even vote for. But the ERG got its pound of flesh tonight, the DUP will not switch until they've got theirs.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
It's just the sort of cynical politicking that the public abhors. I agree with Anna Soubry who's saying precisely this on Channel 4 News at the moment.
Indeed, but unfortunately politics has a small p as well as a big P.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
For a completely unrelated £1bn, I would imagine the DUP might abstain along with a few of the remaining ERG purists. That should see it home.
As long as the backstop remains even £1 trillion will not concert the DUP
If China can cope with one time zone then so should the EU.
Russian Railways has only just stopped the practice of quoting all arrival and departure times, wherever they may be, in Moscow time. Which is making planning an itinerary for a trip next year much easier (or maybe only slightly easier, it's still a bloody long way from Kazań to Yekaterinburg for example)
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
If every Tory MP last time had backed the Deal it would have passed.
If she's still a few short May should do a Maastricht Major and call it a confidence vote with withdrawal of the whip for any who vote against.
Will cost her a few Labour Leavers but put the DUP on the spot.
The DUP would likely still vote against and for VONC in those circumstances
I'm finding myself conflicted. Part of me wants revoke in that I voted remain and think that was still correct but realising revoke is morally indefensible without a second referendum and another referendum could be very destructive. The funny thing is I then prefer May's deal to the softer Brexit approaches. I think in a GE anything softer than May would unravel because you would get some of the advantages of membership, most of the the disadvantages but crucially no political representation.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Hmm. An interesting suggestion, and quite possible, I think.
Given a general election like that I would hold my nose and vote Labour - rather than abstaining and letting labour win my constituency by default.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs Union
If the Tories call another snap GE and the reason has anything to do with Brexit, I expect they will be in for another surprise.
Indeed. The Tory nut job (e.g Bone) and crypto kipper (e.g Jenkyns) alliance suffer from the illusion the public treat a GE as a vote exclusively on Europe. They don't.
Given the DUP and about 20 Tory MPs are still refusing to back the Deal and the Deal still does not have at least 20 Labour MPs backing it has May just made a unicorn resignation proposal?
Who might swing from Labour without a whip?
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
Which means even if every Tory MP voted for the Deal the Deal would still be narrowly defeated if no more Labour MPs switch to back the Deal and the DUP still votes against the Deal
If every Tory MP last time had backed the Deal it would have passed.
If she's still a few short May should do a Maastricht Major and call it a confidence vote with withdrawal of the whip for any who vote against.
Will cost her a few Labour Leavers but put the DUP on the spot.
She still needs oppostion members to balance off the Tory remainers. The various reasons why this is less likely now are obvious.
I'm still wondering: how does Theresa May standing down make the Deal any better than it was before?
It has won over Boris, IDS, Burns, Rees-Mogg etc for the Deal which gives it a chance but it will probably still fall just short. If as expected SM and or customs union then wins the indicative votes tonight and MV3 fails May could well call a general election on a platform of giving her a majority for her Deal or BINO with PM Corbyn and the SNP
Yes, fighting a GE on "let's leave the customs union" will be a sure fire winner.
Well it will for Tories, Corbyn as PM guarantees staying permanently in a Customs Union
If the Tories call another snap GE and the reason has anything to do with Brexit, I expect they will be in for another surprise.
As I said before I would expect sadly a repeat of February 1974, May like Heath says 'who governs Britain' the public says 'Not You'. Though like Feb 1974 it would be very close, remember Heath won the popular vote and a majority in England even if Wilson won most seats across the UK.
I would then expect Corbyn to become PM on a platform of negotiating Single Market and Customs Union BINO with the EU propped up by the SNP while Boris wins the Tory leadership on a hard Brexit platform after May resigns and Boris then becomes Leader of the Opposition
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This is exposing the pragmatists and the hard core of the ERG.
But if we move to GMT+1 then nowhere will be on the right time.
... David Herdson MP ?
But Ed Balls would have been a holdout too so why does Jenkyns matter?
The ERG posturers are switching now.
The ERG nutters will never switch.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2019/mar/27/can-you-get-mays-deal-through-meaningful-vote-3
The deal passes on Friday.
😂
I can’t work out if the DUP are holding out for money and UK Government divergence assurances, or if they’re just being utterly dogmatic.
Where Nadine leads everyone else follows.
Who else is sympathetic?
I can’t think of anyone.
I know these things go down to the last hour but that is literally happening now. If the result is announced at 10pm on Friday then at the literal last hour the deal is passed.
It's almost poetic.
Given the size of his ego, that will win over everything else.
That’s a good summary.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47725529
Anyway, HoC due back.
For those in doubt, in English phonetics it's pronounced uh DOY theer.
Theresa = acting with dignity, doing the best for the country as per usual
CON = most members ok, some (k)nobs
Mogg = knob
LAB = unfit to govern
SNP = makes LAB look like serious party
TIG and LD =
Corbyn = *
Bercow = **
Xinjiang Time, also known as Ürümqi Time (Chinese: 乌鲁木齐时间; pinyin: Wūlǔmùqí Shíjiān), is set due to its geographical location in the westernmost part of the country.[9] The time offset is UTC+06:00, which is two hours behind Beijing, and is shared with neighbouring Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.
[..]
The coexistence of two timezones within the same region causes some confusion among the local population, especially when inter-racial communication occurs. When a time is mentioned in conversation between Han and Uyghur, it is necessary to either explicitly make clear whether the time is in Xinjiang Time or Beijing Time, or convert the time according to the ethnicity of the other party.[13][14][15] The double time standard is particularly observable in Xinjiang Television, which schedules its Chinese channel according to Beijing time and its Uyghur and Kazakh channels according to Xinjiang time. [16]
Regardless, Beijing Time users in Xinjiang usually schedule their daily activities two hours later than those who live in eastern China. As such, stores and offices in Xinjiang are commonly open from 10am to 7pm Beijing Time, which equals 8am to 5pm in Ürümqi Time.[17] This is known as the work/rest time in Xinjiang.[18]
In most areas of Xinjiang, the opening time of local authorities is additionally modified by shifting the morning session 30–60 minutes backward and the afternoon session 30 minutes forward to extend the lunch break for 60–90 minutes, so as to avoid the intense heat during noon time in the area during summer.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_China#Xinjiang
https://www.welt.de
Of course it is more complex, but you could not blame the casual observer from thinking that.
If she's still a few short May should do a Maastricht Major and call it a confidence vote with withdrawal of the whip for any who vote against.
Will cost her a few Labour Leavers but put the DUP on the spot.
There were straws in the wind that was precisely what they were looking for over the weekend.
May may just simply being her stubborn and tone-deaf best.
MV3 to pass is now odds on, at least at WmHills. Evs or thereabouts elsewhere.
Indeed, but unfortunately politics has a small p as well as a big P.
And she’s not immune to it herself.
I would then expect Corbyn to become PM on a platform of negotiating Single Market and Customs Union BINO with the EU propped up by the SNP while Boris wins the Tory leadership on a hard Brexit platform after May resigns and Boris then becomes Leader of the Opposition