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No way at all the Conservatives can get to 326 - Curtis.0
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Third recount.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Stoke S Con gain from Lab.0
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John Curtice, the true genius of 2017.0
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I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
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Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
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Cities with at least 3 MPs which have a Conservative MP:AndyJS said:Con gain Stoke South from Lab.
London
Stoke
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Ah.DavidL said:
Third recount.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Dudley North also being rumoured to be a one vote margin.0
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The voters are clearly in the mood for taking the piss at the moment so give them what they want!The_Apocalypse said:The Tories would be taking the absolute p*ss if they elected Boris as leader/PM.
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When was the last time it was not under Labour, 1950s?dr_spyn said:Con gain Stoke on Trent South.
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WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity0 -
Betting -- Bet365 and Hills have settled on various constituencies but Betfair seems to have gone to bed.0
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Gutting. I really like Nicola Blackwood.kle4 said:
What fantastic turnout. Corbyn was right again, give people a real choice and they will turnout. Not as I would wish, but overall turnout must be pretty good.bookseller said:Oxford West and Abingdon - 80%+ turnout - LibDems GAIN from CON - get in you beauty!
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Just to ensure they're kept out, we could amend the Oath to include "maintain and promote the true and reformed Protestant faith; to abjure and condemn the Bishop of Rome, being Antichrist and the man of sin."Andrew said:
"I, [insert post-terrorist name here], swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."JosiasJessop said:Earlier on, I did wonder whether Corbyn would get a majority due to Sinn Fein's entering parliament.
Gonna call it unlikely.0 -
I note that St. Ives, Berwick, Hexham and Wansbeck aren't expected to declare until lunchtime. I presume that means they don't start counting until office hours begin. So it may be another half a day before the UK knows whether it has a majority government. With that, good night all.0
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Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/0 -
Suddenly the DUP are everywhere...0
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If Theresa May is working on her resignation honours list, since Nick and Fiona are clearly a right pair of muppets, if there's a spare OBE going, I can take it off her hands.0
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Well this was fantastic fun, let's do it again in October!!0
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1931 I think.SimonStClare said:
When was the last time it was not under Labour, 1950s?dr_spyn said:Con gain Stoke on Trent South.
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You are a leftie we don't care what you think we just want someone who can win, to be fair to Corbynistas they ignored moderates who said Corbyn would be a disaster too. It was Boris who won EU ref in large part. He can now finish the jobArtist said:Boris is too divisive for a party that now needs 98% loyalty on every vote.
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Alanbrooke said:
WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
Edit Alanbrooke (bet with MalcolmG)
LOSERS
May
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SNP
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These are factored in to the BBC forecast.rpjs said:I note that St. Ives, Berwick, Hexham and Wansbeck aren't expected to declare until lunchtime. I presume that means they don't start counting until office hours begin. So it may be another half a day before the UK knows whether it has a majority government. With that, good night all.
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Wansbeck Lab holdrpjs said:I note that St. Ives, Berwick, Hexham and Wansbeck aren't expected to declare until lunchtime. I presume that means they don't start counting until office hours begin. So it may be another half a day before the UK knows whether it has a majority government. With that, good night all.
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You forget Dave and George from your winners list.Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
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You forgot a free-sheet editor in the 'losers' column.....Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity0 -
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I can't believe some people here are trying to dress up the Conservative result as not all that bad.
Theresa May has gone backwards. She had 330 seats going into this election, and was expected to get a majority of 100. She's managed to turn a slender, but workable majority into a minority situation. She's likely to be less than 320 and there will need to be a deal with the DUP to get legislation through. As to getting her extra two years, I doubt the parliament will last to 2022. Every by-election loss will reduce her minority further and further over the next few years. Ken Clarke will demand anything he wants, and have to be dealt with. It's a disaster for her. Anna Soubry is right. Theresa May should announce her intention to go. This morning.0 -
Betfair took 3 days to pay out on TM as PM last year.DecrepitJohnL said:Betting -- Bet365 and Hills have settled on various constituencies but Betfair seems to have gone to bed.
They sometimes need a boot up the arse.0 -
Well he's an idiot then.TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/0 -
well TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
you got the result you wanted
you can now tell us endlessly how brilliant Dave was0 -
LD hold Orkney.0
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Ben Bradshaw got 34k in Exeter.0
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It looks like that canvassing data you enthused about wasn't so good after all.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
Not having a go at you - its the CCHQ incompetents which have let the likes of you, DH and TP down.0 -
Moran is a completely anonymous candidate - she won because of a significant tactical vote rather than because she is a really strong candidate.Casino_Royale said:
Gutting. I really like Nicola Blackwood.kle4 said:
What fantastic turnout. Corbyn was right again, give people a real choice and they will turnout. Not as I would wish, but overall turnout must be pretty good.bookseller said:Oxford West and Abingdon - 80%+ turnout - LibDems GAIN from CON - get in you beauty!
It was a very energetic local campaign - no doubt about it.0 -
Not really, I wanted the hard left socialism of Corbynism routed, I wanted Aaron to become an MP.Alanbrooke said:
well TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
you got the result you wanted
you can now tell us endlessly how brilliant Dave was0 -
Can we strip his knighthood and have a cross party agreement to never again allow such blatant abuse of the honours system?Paristonda said:A former aussie PM speaks
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Singing No More Catholics.KentRising said:Suddenly the DUP are everywhere...
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I can only go on the data I have to hand.another_richard said:
It looks like that canvassing data you enthused about wasn't so good after all.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
Not having a go at you - its the CCHQ incompetents which have let the likes of you, DH and TP down.
From what I saw last Saturday, the canvass returns hadn't moved since early May, the data was accurate, the organisation very good, and were showing a close win.0 -
Amazingly, both Wansbeck and Blyth Valley have already declared despite the fact that both of them were supposed to be Friday counts. They must have changed their mind at the last moment.Casino_Royale said:
These are factored in to the BBC forecast.rpjs said:I note that St. Ives, Berwick, Hexham and Wansbeck aren't expected to declare until lunchtime. I presume that means they don't start counting until office hours begin. So it may be another half a day before the UK knows whether it has a majority government. With that, good night all.
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Tories won Camborne and redruth by 1577 votes
Labour got 21424 votes wow0 -
So how many potential seats do we think were lost by the mental dementia tax and the image damage caused by the pseudo-U-turn? I think it was a minimum of 20, probably more like 30 plus. The difference between a solid win and an epochal, humiliating defeat.
Still think it was worth it, idiotic manifesto writers?0 -
It's not even an issue. She is going. The narrative's already moved on: who will replace her?TheValiant said:I can't believe some people here are trying to dress up the Conservative result as not all that bad.
Theresa May has gone backwards. She had 330 seats going into this election, and was expected to get a majority of 100. She's managed to turn a slender, but workable majority into a minority situation. She's likely to be less than 320 and there will need to be a deal with the DUP to get legislation through. As to getting her extra two years, I doubt the parliament will last to 2022. Every by-election loss will reduce her minority further and further over the next few years. Ken Clarke will demand anything he wants, and have to be dealt with. It's a disaster for her. Anna Soubry is right. Theresa May should announce her intention to go. This morning.0 -
May is not far off evens to be next PM. I think she will carry on - because she should.
Of course her ambitious colleagues are falling over themselves to ,"offer their services to the country". But she stood on a mandate to deliver BREXIT and the electorate have given her the most votes. So she stood stand and deliver.
I'm not arguing through my pocket. I'm trying to interpret the GBP's thinking. She may well want to walk away - but this is her moment in history. To navigate the British people through BREXIT.
I've talked myself around. May for next PM at 1.89.
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It is undeniably bad and May needs to go. But it is still fact that the Tories remain the least unpopular party in the UK in votes and seats. That doesn't help them much, the direction of travel was Labour rising more than Tory, and LDs made gains too, but it is fact they are largest even though that does not mitigate from a very bad night.TheValiant said:I can't believe some people here are trying to dress up the Conservative result as not all that bad.
Theresa May has gone backwards. She had 330 seats going into this election, and was expected to get a majority of 100. She's managed to turn a slender, but workable majority into a minority situation. She's likely to be less than 320 and there will need to be a deal with the DUP to get legislation through. As to getting her extra two years, I doubt the parliament will last to 2022. Every by-election loss will reduce her minority further and further over the next few years. Ken Clarke will demand anything he wants, and have to be dealt with. It's a disaster for her. Anna Soubry is right. Theresa May should announce her intention to go. This morning.
Everyone but UKIp can take some positives, though the SNPs is very hollow (still largest party in Scotland by a distance).0 -
see one vote can make a difference.The_Apocalypse said:
Ah.DavidL said:
Third recount.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Blah blah blah. Been hearing this for weeks and it's just lazy partisan bullshit. How about accepting that 40% of the British public want a new economic settlement, similar to that made in most other countries in Western Europe?blueblue said:40% of the British public want free stuff and don't give a shiny shit what they have to do to get it. Kinda depressing really.
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I think I know where it went wrong.another_richard said:
It looks like that canvassing data you enthused about wasn't so good after all.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
Not having a go at you - its the CCHQ incompetents which have let the likes of you, DH and TP down.
In 2015 it was spot on.
This time it was showing the Tories up 6%ish, and they thought, well that's us home and hosed, not realising Labour might be up 10%0 -
rofl! Good night all.asjohnstone said:Well this was fantastic fun, let's do it again in October!!
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Why? Because I'm elucidating the position I've held for yonks and the 'Conservatives-in-name-only' are rejecting in a toddler-like strop.SimonStClare said:
it shows.JosiasJessop said:I've been up for 26 hours ...
And believe me, I know what one of those looks like.
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Fecking diastster. May has to go immediately. I had a bad feeling about the election as soon as she called it.
Silver lining for me. Anna Soubry hangs on... just.0 -
Another tight one Pudsey 331 votes.0
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George Osborne surely belongs in both columns.CarlottaVance said:
You forgot a free-sheet editor in the 'losers' column.....Alanbrooke said:WINNERS
Corbyn
Ruth Davidson
DUP
Michel Barnier
LOSERS
May
Labour party moderates
SNP
Austerity0 -
The Dave who promised, held and lost a referendum - that one?Alanbrooke said:
you can now tell us endlessly how brilliant Dave wasTheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
I doubt history will treat him kindly0 -
Boris will put a stop to that plus I would not be surprised to see the Eurosceptic populist and Boris clone Beppe Grillo win in Italy next year eitherTheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/0 -
Why the guy who ran Labour's 2015 campaign got a peerage,Pong said:
Can we strip his knighthood and have a cross party agreement to never again allow such blatant abuse of the honours system?Paristonda said:A former aussie PM speaks
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Does anyone know if Conservative party rules would allow a MSP to become leader? Get Ruth in and call another GE. Let her debate Jeremy's sweets for everyone.
May ultimately paid the price for a manifesto cock-up and not being brave enough. I think she would have still done a decent job on the EU negotiations but she just didn't have enough charisma or confidence for a GE campaign. She will have to go, despite increasing the vote share, Tories don't like a loser.0 -
I think this is the only technical possibility. The Tories can't elect (or, if it were possible, select) a new leader before a new ministry is formed. Surely she must be next PM, if only for a few weeks.stjohn said:May is not far off evens to be next PM. I think she will carry on - because she should.
Of course her ambitious colleagues are falling over themselves to ,"offer their services to the country". But she stood on a mandate to deliver BREXIT and the electorate have given her the most votes. So she stood stand and deliver.
I'm not arguing through my pocket. I'm trying to interpret the GBP's thinking. She may well want to walk away - but this is her moment in history. To navigate the British people through BREXIT.
I've talked myself around. May for next PM at 1.89.
I'm on!0 -
Terrorists want power. Give them the sniff of it and they may take it.Andrew said:
"I, [insert post-terrorist name here], swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."JosiasJessop said:Earlier on, I did wonder whether Corbyn would get a majority due to Sinn Fein's entering parliament.
Gonna call it unlikely.
Words matter less than power.0 -
All I can say is that Theresa May should resign as PM, resign as an MP and retire from public life never to be heard from again.0
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Who to ?TravelJunkie said:Another tight one Pudsey 331 votes.
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Suddenly the Tories look reactionary and old fashioned and 67 year old Jeremy looks like the new kid on the block.
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The insufferable Paul Mason now back home at the BBC.
Time for bed.0 -
Telford was a Tory hold by 720 votes.0
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Has to be a Tory MP in receipt of the Tory whipAlistairM said:Does anyone know if Conservative party rules would allow a MSP to become leader? Get Ruth in and call another GE. Let her debate Jeremy's sweets for everyone.
May ultimately paid the price for a manifesto cock-up and not being brave enough. I think she would have still done a decent job on the EU negotiations but she just didn't have enough charisma or confidence for a GE campaign. She will have to go, despite increasing the vote share, Tories don't like a loser.0 -
Secondedbardigiani said:All I can say is that Theresa May should resign as PM, resign as an MP and retire from public life never to be heard from again.
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How about Spencer Livermore's peerage?Pong said:
Can we strip his knighthood and have a cross party agreement to never again allow such blatant abuse of the honours system?Paristonda said:A former aussie PM speaks
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Lab hold Hove actually.0
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In practice, though, even SNP+LD+Labour+PC+SDLP combining can't defeat the Tories, so the main issue is backbench rebellions and ensuring DUP/UUP at least abstain.TheValiant said:I can't believe some people here are trying to dress up the Conservative result as not all that bad.
Theresa May has gone backwards. She had 330 seats going into this election, and was expected to get a majority of 100. She's managed to turn a slender, but workable majority into a minority situation. She's likely to be less than 320 and there will need to be a deal with the DUP to get legislation through. As to getting her extra two years, I doubt the parliament will last to 2022. Every by-election loss will reduce her minority further and further over the next few years. Ken Clarke will demand anything he wants, and have to be dealt with. It's a disaster for her. Anna Soubry is right. Theresa May should announce her intention to go. This morning.0 -
It's a terrible result and May will go, but the Tories haven't been removed from office.TheValiant said:I can't believe some people here are trying to dress up the Conservative result as not all that bad.
Theresa May has gone backwards. She had 330 seats going into this election, and was expected to get a majority of 100. She's managed to turn a slender, but workable majority into a minority situation. She's likely to be less than 320 and there will need to be a deal with the DUP to get legislation through. As to getting her extra two years, I doubt the parliament will last to 2022. Every by-election loss will reduce her minority further and further over the next few years. Ken Clarke will demand anything he wants, and have to be dealt with. It's a disaster for her. Anna Soubry is right. Theresa May should announce her intention to go. This morning.0 -
Presumably what you see when you look in the mirror?JosiasJessop said:
Why? Because I'm elucidating the position I've held for yonks and the 'Conservatives-in-name-only' are rejecting in a toddler-like strop.SimonStClare said:
it shows.JosiasJessop said:I've been up for 26 hours ...
And believe me, I know what one of those looks like.
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TBF to them, they paid out on her as next Tory leader when Leadsom pulled out, and as next PM after she actually went to the Palace three days later.Casino_Royale said:
Betfair took 3 days to pay out on TM as PM last year.DecrepitJohnL said:Betting -- Bet365 and Hills have settled on various constituencies but Betfair seems to have gone to bed.
They sometimes need a boot up the arse.0 -
Even mentioning fox hunting was dumb. There are young voters who weren't born when it was banned. A side issue for most people but it played right into that image of the Tories.Roger said:Suddenly the Tories look reactionary and old fashioned and 67 year old Jeremy looks like the new kid on the block.
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Ork&Shet Carbunkle back0
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Not when they want to retain their kneecaps when they visit their constituencies.JosiasJessop said:
Terrorists want power. Give them the sniff of it and they may take it.Andrew said:
"I, [insert post-terrorist name here], swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."JosiasJessop said:Earlier on, I did wonder whether Corbyn would get a majority due to Sinn Fein's entering parliament.
Gonna call it unlikely.
Words matter less than power.0 -
Not a surprise Labour was up with all the freebies Corbyn was promising.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I know where it went wrong.another_richard said:
It looks like that canvassing data you enthused about wasn't so good after all.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
Not having a go at you - its the CCHQ incompetents which have let the likes of you, DH and TP down.
In 2015 it was spot on.
This time it was showing the Tories up 6%ish, and they thought, well that's us home and hosed, not realising Labour might be up 10%
And why would anyone believe the economy would collapse if they voted for Corbyn.
After all the economy didn't collapse when Leave won even though the establishment said it would.
Project Fear is no longer believed.0 -
Arf.asjohnstone said:Well this was fantastic fun, let's do it again in October!!
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There are the best part of 20 seats the Tories shouldn't have lost tonight.
A slightly better tactical campaign, and a bit more effort and buzz from May, and she'd be back with a majority of 24-30.0 -
Very true.another_richard said:
Not a surprise Labour was up with all the freebies Corbyn was promising.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I know where it went wrong.another_richard said:
It looks like that canvassing data you enthused about wasn't so good after all.Casino_Royale said:
I doubt there's much good news for the Tories there.AndyJS said:What's going on in Southampton? No results yet.
Not having a go at you - its the CCHQ incompetents which have let the likes of you, DH and TP down.
In 2015 it was spot on.
This time it was showing the Tories up 6%ish, and they thought, well that's us home and hosed, not realising Labour might be up 10%
And why would anyone believe the economy would collapse if they voted for Corbyn.
After all the economy didn't collapse when Leave won even though the establishment said it would.
Project Fear is no longer believed.0 -
Labour have replaced lib dem!s in Cornwall unbelievable0
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Mishal Hussain is very pretty.
What, I've been up for 22 hours and haven't left my chair in 7, give me a break.0 -
That constituency has barely moved in three elections now.AndyJS said:Telford was a Tory hold by 720 votes.
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Heh. You've never coded a (successful) demo for a major Japanese electronics company. From Friday morning to Sunday afternoon, aided by regular coffee and Red Bull.Mortimer said:
Get some sleep mate - 26 hours is too long to be awake!JosiasJessop said:I've been up for 26 hours ...
And we got the contract!
(RIP Owen Love and Russell Thomas).0 -
Stoke seat was split in 1950, but if you count South and then Stoke before it, the only time it has ever gone blue was in 1931 when Oswald Mosley split the Labour vote (his wife had previously held it for Labour but they fell out with Labour and created the New Party - the fascism came later). So a Canterbury kind of result.SimonStClare said:
When was the last time it was not under Labour, 1950s?dr_spyn said:Con gain Stoke on Trent South.
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There were some very close ones, I think you're right about that result being possible even with the Labour surge, if the campaign had been better.Casino_Royale said:There are the best part of 20 seats the Tories shouldn't have lost tonight.
A slightly better tactical campaign, and a bit more effort and buzz from May, and she'd be back with a majority of 24-30.0 -
Wes Streeting wins by 10,039 votes in Ilford North.0
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However, I have just had £20 on Gove to be PM after this GE at 160/1!atia2 said:
I think this is the only technical possibility. The Tories can't elect (or, if it were possible, select) a new leader before a new ministry is formed. Surely she must be next PM, if only for a few weeks.stjohn said:May is not far off evens to be next PM. I think she will carry on - because she should.
Of course her ambitious colleagues are falling over themselves to ,"offer their services to the country". But she stood on a mandate to deliver BREXIT and the electorate have given her the most votes. So she stood stand and deliver.
I'm not arguing through my pocket. I'm trying to interpret the GBP's thinking. She may well want to walk away - but this is her moment in history. To navigate the British people through BREXIT.
I've talked myself around. May for next PM at 1.89.
I'm on!0 -
Was a good piece. But I think it's wrong - partly because the British public never seem to have really embraced a European identity, but also because I think any drive back towards the arms of Europe would be based on economic concerns, and I think such demands would be sated by some form of EEA membership.TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone who worked for Vote Leave messaged me 20 mins ago and said I was right with this piece from last yearMyBurningEars said:
Should make you embrace Brexit, TSE - leaving would likely be permanent and settle the issue. At least, it's unlikely to see a mass movement for rejoining a more federal EU, adopting the euro, and so on...TheScreamingEagles said:So that's the fourth consecutive Tory PM and every one since 1979 to have their Premiership/destroyed by EC/EU affairs
How the Leavers may have ultimately signed the United Kingdom up for the single currency, the Schengen agreement, an EU Army, and a United States of Europe.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
In the long game you may be right. But people have seriously suggested at various points in the past that Britain would eventually join the USA because of apparently overwhelming cultural and geopolitical considerations, and that doesn't seem any closer to happening either. If integration produces a USE, or something close to it, then Britain's path seems to me to be quite divergent from Europe's.0 -
Yes, all of them, every single one.CarlottaVance said:
How about Spencer Livermore's peerage?Pong said:
Can we strip his knighthood and have a cross party agreement to never again allow such blatant abuse of the honours system?Paristonda said:A former aussie PM speaks
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Are those 40% willing to run a trade surplus similar to those in most other countries in Western Europe ?atia2 said:
Blah blah blah. Been hearing this for weeks and it's just lazy partisan bullshit. How about accepting that 40% of the British public want a new economic settlement, similar to that made in most other countries in Western Europe?blueblue said:40% of the British public want free stuff and don't give a shiny shit what they have to do to get it. Kinda depressing really.
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Suspect she very much wants to do that now.bardigiani said:All I can say is that Theresa May should resign as PM, resign as an MP and retire from public life never to be heard from again.
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Tory hold - bearly.Pulpstar said:
Who to ?TravelJunkie said:Another tight one Pudsey 331 votes.
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