@reactionlife: ITV reporting that Theresa May is likely to announce her intention to resign and trigger a Conservative leadership contest this morning.
Can CON just govern on their own? Without SF 322 is a majority. Why not just hold the Queen's speech. Do we really think the LDs will vote it down - I assume they will decide to abstain for either a Con or Lab Queen's Speech - if they do vote it down they will get hammered at the next election, which lets face it will probably be later in the year. I doubt the DUP will vote them down even if there is no agreement with them - they just did well and they will not provoke a UK election if they think Corbyn will win.
Just go it alone?
They'll set themselves up as sitting ducks in a couple of years time if recession hits.
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
All I can say is that Theresa May should resign as PM, resign as an MP and retire from public life never to be heard from again.
Suspect she very much wants to do that now.
What a story. She wanted to be PM to fulfil a role of public service. She wasn't a bad fit for the role. But she can't ever have imagined that her life's main achievement was destined to be a smooth Brexit. Living a lie is putting it too strongly, but in the end the poverty of her campaigning was symptomatic of her lack of belief in the Brexit project. (She looked unhappy from the second day of the campaign.) She'll be sad to have had such a short tenure but she won't be sad to retire from such a crappy vocation.
It is ironic that Ruth Davidson is the type of person that makes the DUP types want to throw up if they are in a good mood. I won't speculate what they would do on a bad day.
There is a chance that the exit poll is exactly right. But even if it is not it will probably be within 2 seats for each party. Much kudos to Curtice and his team
Can CON just govern on their own? Without SF 322 is a majority. Why not just hold the Queen's speech. Do we really think the LDs will vote it down - I assume they will decide to abstain for either a Con or Lab Queen's Speech - if they do vote it down they will get hammered at the next election, which lets face it will probably be later in the year. I doubt the DUP will vote them down even if there is no agreement with them - they just did well and they will not provoke a UK election if they think Corbyn will win.
Just go it alone?
They'll set themselves up as sitting ducks in a couple of years time if recession hits.
They need to do their duty now. Get Brexit through, don't focus of any silliness like dementia taxes, keep their heads down, work for a deal and go back to the country in late 2019. Get Davis in as PM (Brexiteer in chief).
There is a chance that the exit poll is exactly right. But even if it is not it will probably be within 2 seats for each party. Much kudos to Curtice and his team
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
chortle
youre off on one again
for the record I have never been against Cameron as such he never moved me one way or the other he was just sort of there
On Osborne, no prizes for guessing he has caused much of the conservative cock up of today
There is a chance that the exit poll is exactly right. But even if it is not it will probably be within 2 seats for each party. Much kudos to Curtice and his team
Another tory gain in Scotland but that is the last one. We have a hold to come.
excellent night for you David
Well kinda mixed but as Ruth said Indyref2 is dead. And that was for me the most important thing to come out of this election.
Taking the longer view, the Union is more secure - and my home constituency is Tory again after 30 years of SNP - I think we've passed peak SNP.
Mrs May has certainly secured her place in history - not the one she'd want, or I would have wished for her, but obscurity on the back benches beckons and walking holidays with Philip.
As for BREXIT, we'll see. Not sure any of the opposition parties had coherent Brexit plans any more than the Tories. 'Our slogans are better than your slogans' is irrelevant for the next five years.
On the plus side, UKIP have moved into the deceased column and Corbyn is secure in Labour.
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
No.
Please re-read my posts, and those I am responding to in the past.
I'd have more time with your intruding into this thread if you'd done similar in the past when idiots have made other comments.
Another tory gain in Scotland but that is the last one. We have a hold to come.
excellent night for you David
Well kinda mixed but as Ruth said Indyref2 is dead. And that was for me the most important thing to come out of this election.
Taking the longer view, the Union is more secure - and my home constituency is Tory again after 30 years of SNP - I think we've passed peak SNP.
Mrs May has certainly secured her place in history - not the one she'd want, or I would have wished for her, but obscurity on the back benches beckons and walking holidays with Philip.
As for BREXIT, we'll see. Not sure any of the opposition parties had coherent Brexit plans any more than the Tories. 'Our slogans are better than your slogans' is irrelevant for the next five years.
On the plus side, UKIP have moved into the deceased column and Corbyn is secure in Labour.
She gave us stability for the 9 months after Brexit and got Article 50 through the Commons - her brief but eventful stint as PM will go down in the history books. She's earned her place. Now it's time for her to leave the stage and for someone else to write the next chapter.
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
You seem unable to determine the difference between disagreeing with someone's views and being rude.
Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
No.
Please re-read my posts, and those I am responding to in the past.
I'd have more time with your intruding into this thread if you'd done similar in the past when idiots have made other comments.
Yep. I re-read the post. You called another poster a loser. Nothing more than that.
And now you're throwing a strop because you're being called on it.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
Care to actually address the points I make? We've had so much sh*t thrown by so-called Conservatives, and now they've lost.
I'm the sort of person they should be appealing to. I could be persuaded. Instead we get 'Waaaaah!'.
Its not about that. Your point was entirely personal to Alan, and entirely unnecessary.
Get some kip mate. You'll feel better for it.
Alan has been, and is, utterly against Cameron and Osborne. I reserve the right to act as the ghost of Christmas yet to come and show him what he's reaped.
Again, I could have been a Conservative voter. But they lost me.
chortle
youre off on one again
for the record I have never been against Cameron as such he never moved me one way or the other he was just sort of there
On Osborne, no prizes for guessing he has caused much of the conservative cock up of today
Osborne's not in power. This disaster (and I see it as such) is not down to him, but the clown party of May, Davis, Boris and Fox, along with their acolytes.
The politics of Cameron and Osborne are the future of the Conservative Party, not that of the Europhobes who currently hold the party's reins.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
Yes, I'm very worried about the hard Left.
I don't know how the Tories increase their popularity to prevent a defeat to them in a year or two, however.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
Yes, I'm very worried about the hard Left.
I don't know how the Tories increase their popularity to prevent a defeat to them in a year or two, however.
Me too. As much as I dislike and detest the Tories, a hard left government doesn't bear thinking about
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Time to turn in and return with more rationality....
Amber Rudd is a Remainer too...
Brighton Pavilion
Ceredigion
Dudley N
Fife NE
Newcastle-under-Lyme
Southampton Test
youre off on one again
for the record I have never been against Cameron as such he never moved me one way or the other he was just sort of there
On Osborne, no prizes for guessing he has caused much of the conservative cock up of today
A subtle but important change. We all need to bone-up on the DUP now.
Mrs May has certainly secured her place in history - not the one she'd want, or I would have wished for her, but obscurity on the back benches beckons and walking holidays with Philip.
As for BREXIT, we'll see. Not sure any of the opposition parties had coherent Brexit plans any more than the Tories. 'Our slogans are better than your slogans' is irrelevant for the next five years.
On the plus side, UKIP have moved into the deceased column and Corbyn is secure in Labour.
Please re-read my posts, and those I am responding to in the past.
I'd have more time with your intruding into this thread if you'd done similar in the past when idiots have made other comments.
Fuck.
Dont say 11!
10 DUP
7 SF
The leader of a Tory minority government will lead to defeat in next election, which surely is not far off.
And now you're throwing a strop because you're being called on it.
Time to let it go and grab a kip.
The Tories need to have a proper leadership election and need to rethink their approach to Brexit. Quite fundamentally in my view.
I'm glad Wes Streeting won. I was at a lunch with him recently and liked him. Very sad about Nick Clegg. But glad that the Lib Dems did better than expected.
It's a funny old world, as someone once said, that the Tories will have got one of their highest shares of the vote and done very well in Scotland but it feels like a defeat for them.
Still, thankfully at least no PM Corbyn - for now - and even if I'm not a Corbyn supporter, good that the young have turned out to vote. It is not good to have people not voting and if it means that politicians listen to their concerns so much the better.
The trouble is all groups are being bribed and the economy is simply not strong enough to pay for all the promises. At some point soon reality is going to hit and it's not going to be pretty.
Finally, I am going to buff my nails and blow my own trumpet.
I thought Corbyn might just do it and said as much on here a few days ago, to general derision.
I was wrong but not as wrong as all those predicting large Tory majorities.
Also Con hold Dumfries
The politics of Cameron and Osborne are the future of the Conservative Party, not that of the Europhobes who currently hold the party's reins.
Does 7 SF not make the Tories bang on a majority? And they can depend on the Speaker. Gulp.
But not today.
Not going to happen.
Southampton Itchen.
Crewe & Nantwich.
Crawley.
Brighton Pavilion.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTW1Szr7ktZeVmbnnJex_CfSifFQSUTtZiBVHSiKTmw/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true
I don't know how the Tories increase their popularity to prevent a defeat to them in a year or two, however.
LOL