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  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Angus: 90% chance of Tory gain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    viewcode said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    Montgomerie should STFU. He's going to look like an idiot if the Tories do indeed get a majority,

    When hasn't he looked like an idiot?
    Rich people can afford to be dumb. We have to graft for our supper. Does your bet come good with a small Con maj? That's still possible.
    I sold Labour seats at 207. I will be carrying a loss of £250 almost certainly.

    I just hope my other bets claw that back, and some.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    LDs to win Edinburgh West comfortably, I hear.
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    edited June 2017
    Casino_Royale said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    LOL Kellner thinks that Tories cold still get 80-100 majority, if the exit poll continues to be as wrong as it has been so far.

    Kellner talks straight out of his arse.
    It's a huge "if", but it feels rightplausible, about a 4% overperformance on the exit poll, I think.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    tyson said:

    The foxes are safe from being torn apart in a terrifying death from a pack of dogs....rejoice....

    Including Liam?
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    Exit poll means exit poll :lol:
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    I reckon that Tory majority of 50 odd, LD under 10, SNP around 40.

    N.b. reckon may be being used interchangeably with hope by me tonight.
  • Bobajob_PB
    Bobajob_PB Posts: 928
    You have to hand it to ITV.

    Getting Ozzy and Balls on is a coup.

    Those two guys are completely wasted outside the Commons.

    A government with Ozzy as PM and Balls as Cote, or vice versa, would be absolutely solid.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    MikeL said:

    Danny565 said:

    Think Curtice has underestimated how much postal voters will have trended to the Tories, relative to on-the-day voters, compared to last time. Tory majority on.

    Could be.

    Postals skew old - old swinging anti-Corbyn due to traditional views on defence, terrorism etc.
    Depends whether they are normalised to age of voter when analysing. It seems obvious to me, and is a reasonable assumption to match a 75 year old postal voter to a 75 year old in person voter.

    Opened my popcorn and beer.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    KentRising said:

    Where are the patriarchs Jack W and John O with their 100 seat majority predictions?!

    ;-)

    We haven't gone away you know ....

    I can't deny I'm amazed. Looks like my source who thought a Con Maj of 30 was likely was in the ball park. And that source was a LibDem !!
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    Poss recount Cambridge?
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    AndyJS said:

    Angus: 90% chance of Tory gain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology

    Hope so.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    ThreeQuidder said:

    Lost deposits: Grn 2, LD 2, UKIP 1.

    Its cheating not to stand.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Eh? Did it?
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    Y0kel said:

    MaxPB said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Three Tory winners tonight. Ruth Davidson, David Cameron, & George Osborne

    An unmitigated disaster for the Tories that none of them are MPs

    Yes, please tell George to give up the other shit and come and save the party.
    You think the public will vote for Osborne?
    Can't be any worse than May.
  • Ishmael_Z
    Ishmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    What someone said in 2015: Labour are hoping the exit polls are wrong. This time tomorrow they'll be wishing they were right.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    AndyJS said:

    Angus: 90% chance of Tory gain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology

    The good news is from Scotland and gains from the SNP, well done Ruth Davidson
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/donaeldunready/status/872944237712683009
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    SeanT said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Surely the Tories would not choose Boris. He is actively harmful to UK interests.

    He'd go for Soft Brexit. Which you and I both want.

    I doubt it. Hammond would, though.

  • alex.
    alex. Posts: 4,658
    Chris said:

    DavidL said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Curtice on BBC explains​ treatment of postal vote. They assume same swing postal as in person.

    That will be a duff assumption. The Tories will do better. I am guessing they will end up as you were at about 330. Thanks to Ruth.
    Why, though?
    The argument would be that the swing to Labour amongst on the day voters is driven explicitly by the sort of people who wouldn't be well represented amongst postal voters.
  • llef
    llef Posts: 301
    marke09 said:

    Pliad say they are no whwere close to beating Chris Bryant in Rhondda

    where did you hear that ? bbc wales?
  • Garza
    Garza Posts: 45
    rcs1000 said:

    Danny565 said:

    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 4m4 minutes ago
    More
    Sheffield Hallam looking closer than 2015.

    I kinda hope that Nick holds on. Although I disagree with him on Brexit (and a number of other issues), I think he's a decent man.
    In 2010, he had a lot of guts to do what he did when the nation's finances were in a mess. I think history will be kind to Clegg.
  • houndtang
    houndtang Posts: 450
    I have to invigilate an exam tomorrow morning :(
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    As I understand it, my Tory source says in the 50 most marginal seats, the winning margin could be less than on average 1,500 votes.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    https://twitter.com/BrettMendoza/status/872939588284821504
  • surbiton
    surbiton Posts: 13,549
    So David Herdson was right after all. I nominate last night's post as Post of the Year.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Sterling rallied nearly 100 pips from the lows immediately after the exit poll
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Newcastle Central would have voted Remain, Sunderland South Leave.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    330 looks like being the big figure now. What DC won in 2015. If May wins that many, she can say 'didn't increase the majority but this is my mandate, I press on'. Just one seat fewer and she's the woman who went to the country asking 'who governs?' and came back with fewer seats than she started with.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    rcs1000 said:

    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
    Richmond Park?
  • MarkSenior
    MarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    SimonStClare said:

    TheValiant said:

    Question - what do people think of the Lib Dems? They were predicted to be nearly wiped out. Not on this exit poll. What is happening here?

    Curtice appears to have picked up on what every pollster missed, shy Lib Dems?
    Pollsters weighting the Lib Dems down where perhaps they should have weighted them up as in pre 2015 elections ?
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    Carolus_Rex said:

    nunu said:

    Carolus_Rex said:

    nunu said:

    80-100 majority still possible!

    Not very likely though.
    could be 30-40. Take the difference between 40 and 80=60. Fine.
    Right now I will go down on my knees and pray for 30-40.
    Labour GAIN Canterbury after all.....
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    Hastings!!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Prodicus said:

    Poss recount Cambridge?

    Er... how does that gel with the exit poll?
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    Looks like Amber Rudd really is in trouble.....
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    This is going to be an infuriating night for all sides. Lab supporters not sure if their man will do it, Con supporters not sure if their woman has lost it. LD supporters praying the poll is true, SNP supporters praying it is false. Results all over the place. Doubt anyone on PB will be looking back on tonight fondly!
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    nunu said:

    80-100 majority still possible!

    How the fuck would that happen?
    There's 70 seats on a knife edge, if we're lucky.....
    Why would we be lucky? Voters are furious at us.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    rcs1000 said:

    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
    Surely the LDs have done better in SW London if the Exit Poll is right?
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    nunu said:

    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Eh? Did it?
    Vague memory that the swing to the Tories was bigger in the NE.
  • Y0kel
    Y0kel Posts: 2,307
    All I'll say is this. When this thing kicked off in April I said that I couldn't see where all those Conservative gains were coming from and a 35 seat majority would be a good result.

    I think I'll stick to that....
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    The_Apocalypse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/872943157796884480

    LOL if that happens what the fuck is this exit poll?
    I think the exit poll has the overall picture broadly right but the swings will be anything but uniform so could be lots of outliers at constituency level.
  • marke09
    marke09 Posts: 926
    Labour confident they will hold onto Ynys Mon
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    SeanT said:

    Chameleon said:

    SNP could be as low as 21, or almost 50. Fucking hell.

    21 might cause me to mess my sporran
    Well that would tell Sturgeon to take her indyref2 and shove it!
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    rcs1000 said:

    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
    The exit poll sample from LD target seats will be way too small to draw any meaningful conclusions. This isn't like last time where almost any polling station showed that their vote had collapsed.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    BBC sounding positive about Hastings for Labour.
  • Lucian_Fletcher
    Lucian_Fletcher Posts: 793
    For those interested I'm hearing positive things about turnout in FST. Trying not to read too much into it.
  • JosiasJessop
    JosiasJessop Posts: 46,251
    Bobajob_PB said:

    You have to hand it to ITV.

    Getting Ozzy and Balls on is a coup.

    Those two guys are completely wasted outside the Commons.

    A government with Ozzy as PM and Balls as Cote, or vice versa, would be absolutely solid.

    During the State opening of parliament a few years ago, the two were chatting and laughing, as they walked through parliament, as thick as thieves. I got the impression they liked each other.
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Yes. These early seats don't mean anything really...
  • HaroldO
    HaroldO Posts: 1,185
    houndtang said:

    I have to invigilate an exam tomorrow morning :(

    I have to leave work early and go and buy some books, before going to the gym....oh, this is about having a lot to do tomorrow. Apologies.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    Best even slightly realistic returns for me now (goodbye 66/1 shots in Hull) would be if the poll is wrong and Lab get under 240

    Lab win Broxtowe, Bristol West, Cambridge, LDs NE Fife, Tories Angus

    And some even more minor stuff with SCON and SLD wins, but those are my best hopes for enough to cover my many many losses.
  • Chris
    Chris Posts: 12,059
    alex. said:

    Chris said:

    DavidL said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Curtice on BBC explains​ treatment of postal vote. They assume same swing postal as in person.

    That will be a duff assumption. The Tories will do better. I am guessing they will end up as you were at about 330. Thanks to Ruth.
    Why, though?
    The argument would be that the swing to Labour amongst on the day voters is driven explicitly by the sort of people who wouldn't be well represented amongst postal voters.
    But is there any evidence to support that view?
  • TravelJunkie
    TravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Amber Rudd won't do any interviews whatever the result for next 24 hours.

    Lib dems losing deposit in hastings
  • Beverley_C
    Beverley_C Posts: 6,256
    foxinsoxuk said:

    MikeL said:

    Danny565 said:

    Think Curtice has underestimated how much postal voters will have trended to the Tories, relative to on-the-day voters, compared to last time. Tory majority on.

    Could be.

    Postals skew old - old swinging anti-Corbyn due to traditional views on defence, terrorism etc.
    Depends whether they are normalised to age of voter when analysing. It seems obvious to me, and is a reasonable assumption to match a 75 year old postal voter to a 75 year old in person voter.

    Opened my popcorn and beer.
    :+1:
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Press Association reports that Labour sources say that the party will hold Clwyd South
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    edited June 2017
    GIN1138 said:

    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Yes. These early seats don't mean anything really...
    Fact. Because this is quite possible - they do know their stuff after all.
    williamglenn said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/872943157796884480

    LOL if that happens what the fuck is this exit poll?
    I think the exit poll has the overall picture broadly right but the swings will be anything but uniform so could be lots of outliers at constituency level.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Hearing that Clegg has lost in Hallam (well-placed LD reliable source)
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    A positive campaign

    Total bollocks.
  • socialliberal
    socialliberal Posts: 41
    Mortimer said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
    Richmond Park?
    Libs in C&W were confident. Richmond Park very unlikely.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    LDs look like they have made net gains, if they are under 10 I make a decent profit, them under 8 & Tory majority of 50 then I'd be very happy.
  • Typo
    Typo Posts: 195
    McDonnell doesn't sound too optimistic about the exit poll.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    SeanT said:

    Chameleon said:

    SNP could be as low as 21, or almost 50. Fucking hell.

    21 might cause me to mess my sporran
    Thanks for my first laugh of the night.
  • Gallowgate
    Gallowgate Posts: 20,709
    oxfordsimon said:

    Hearing that Clegg has lost in Hallam (well-placed LD reliable source)

    Doh!
  • midwinter
    midwinter Posts: 1,112
    GIN1138 said:

    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Yes. These early seats don't mean anything really...
    They were spot on wrt to the exit poll in 2015.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    AndyJS said:

    Angus: 90% chance of Tory gain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology

    Wait, only 6 Tory gains in Scotland??? How are SNP down 22 seats?
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    light relief.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVROcKFnBQ

    Monty Python Election Special.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Casino_Royale said:

    AndyJS said:

    Angus: 90% chance of Tory gain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology

    Hope so.
    There's some outlandish wins certainty for the blues which may well not happen if some of the weird losses don't happen either.
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    SouthamObserver said:

    SeanT said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Surely the Tories would not choose Boris. He is actively harmful to UK interests.

    He'd go for Soft Brexit. Which you and I both want.

    I doubt it. Hammond would, though.

    How do the tories get hard brexit through at all? May explicitly went to the country asking for a free hand for her version of hard brexit, and it has been rejected. The people want brexit, that much is clear. But do they really want a hard brexit?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    oxfordsimon said:

    Hearing that Clegg has lost in Hallam (well-placed LD reliable source)

    To Labour ?
  • jonny83
    jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    You just know the next result will be spot on with the exit poll creating even more speculation.
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    RobD said:

    Prodicus said:

    Poss recount Cambridge?

    Er... how does that gel with the exit poll?
    Heheh

  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    DavidL said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    Lost deposits: Grn 2, LD 2, UKIP 1.

    Its cheating not to stand.
    UKIP 5.7% in H&SS...
  • maaarsh
    maaarsh Posts: 3,602
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    nunu said:

    80-100 majority still possible!

    How the fuck would that happen?
    There's 70 seats on a knife edge, if we're lucky.....
    Presumably not all currently red in the model though.
  • MaxPB
    MaxPB Posts: 40,327
    SeanT said:

    Amber Rudd losing in Hastings?

    Boris or Hammond it is.

    It was never going to be Rudd. I doubt she would ever run for leader.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,865
    https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/872935145342468100
  • Y0kel
    Y0kel Posts: 2,307
    Lucian_Fletcher said:

    For those interested I'm hearing positive things about turnout in FST. Trying not to read too much into it.

    Who is that gonna suit though? The pollsters reckon its really the only unionist/nationalist seat in play.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    Labour party say that they will implement minority government...
  • Beverley_C
    Beverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Freggles said:

    Exit poll means exit poll :lol:

    :D

    Tories 324
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    SeanT said:

    Amber Rudd losing in Hastings?

    Boris or Hammond it is.

    I'd feel sorry for her. Theresa May's human shield and she paid with her political career.
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    I'm amazed by all the definitive conclusions based on the exit poll and two constituencies. Worth remembering this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7enLKrxLrI
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @PickardJE: When we said Amber Rudd was probably the next chancellor we meant to say she was in danger of losing her seat.
  • pbr2013
    pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Looking bad for Amber by the sounds of it. If the tories do just squeeze a majority then Boris will take over?
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Posts: 408
    Autumn rematch: David Davis vs Corbyn.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    edited June 2017
    SeanT said:

    Amber Rudd losing in Hastings?

    Boris or Hammond it is.

    Well, I'd prefer Hammond, but the Tories went for boring last time, and that has not worked out at all.
  • Floater
    Floater Posts: 14,207
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/BrettMendoza/status/872939588284821504

    LOOOL
  • dazza
    dazza Posts: 28
    My SwingModel had this prediction for Houghton & Sunderland South. CON 12333 LAB 24038. Actual result: CON: 12324, LAB: 24665.

    The SwingModel just assumed there would be a migration from UKIP to CON, and, a youth surge for LAB. So I am encouraged by this result. Overall result of the Swing Model: CON 342, LAB 226. Add +-10. Either way, suggests CON still on course for a majority from 14 to 52. SwingModel National percentage vote prediction: LAB 36%, CON 43%.

    Hold on in there Mrs May!
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Charles Kennedy's seat is 90% likely to back to the LDs.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373#methodology
  • Paristonda
    Paristonda Posts: 1,844
    marke09 said:

    Labour confident they will hold onto Ynys Mon

    That will be the second best bit of news of the night for me, if the LDs stay under 19 seats.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Mortimer said:

    MaxPB said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Curtice on BBC explains​ treatment of postal vote. They assume same swing postal as in person.

    Oh dear.

    I'm laying NOM....
    So am I TMICIPM (increased Maj)

    Nailed on
  • bunnco
    bunnco Posts: 169
    Friends at Norwich South count tell me Greens and LibDems to lose deposit. Looks like their votes passported straight to Labour's Lewis.
  • augustus_carp
    augustus_carp Posts: 224
    TravelJunkie said:

    Amber Rudd won't do any interviews whatever the result for next 24 hours.

    Lib dems losing deposit in hastings

    That was a Top Ten Target Seat for the Lib Dems fifteen years ago....
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    May is Honda to the Conservatives' McLaren.
  • socialliberal
    socialliberal Posts: 41
    nunu said:

    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    Eh? Did it?
    Newcastle was 50/50, slight Remain. It was expected 55% reamain.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    Jonathan said:

    The North-East were heavily leave and, if I remember right, leant more heavily to the Tories than the nation in 2015.

    NE was third most Leave after East Midlands and West Midlands.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Pulpstar said:

    oxfordsimon said:

    Hearing that Clegg has lost in Hallam (well-placed LD reliable source)

    To Labour ?
    He didn't say - but I would imagine so
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    What the hell. The seat by seat predictions say SNP lose 11 seats. Where are the other 11 losses?
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    IanB2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MarkSenior said:

    MikeL said:

    Also remember Exit isn't forecasting any Con losses to LD.

    There has to be downside there.

    It is not forecasting any gains either , even C and W and Southport
    I think the LDs will end up with two London seats. One of those will be Twickenham, I suspect. (But hope not.)
    The exit poll sample from LD target seats will be way too small to draw any meaningful conclusions. This isn't like last time where almost any polling station showed that their vote had collapsed.
    I suspect that's right. They'll show big ups in some places, and fade in most of the rest of the country.

    We're see tactical voting return to some extent. (Especially in Scotland.)
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    Lucian_Fletcher said:

    For those interested I'm hearing positive things about turnout in FST. Trying not to read too much into it.

    Can DUP win, May might need them. (sorry I don't know anything about N.Ireland politics).
  • JohnO
    JohnO Posts: 4,312
    JackW said:

    KentRising said:

    Where are the patriarchs Jack W and John O with their 100 seat majority predictions?!

    ;-)

    We haven't gone away you know ....

    I can't deny I'm amazed. Looks like my source who thought a Con Maj of 30 was likely was in the ball park. And that source was a LibDem !!
    Gobsmacked. Looks as if I've got this completely wrong even if the exit poll is understating the Tory vote.
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