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CoughCoughGoldeneyeCoughCoughjonny83 said:
From Russia with Love, then probably Casino Royale for me. Casino Royale was Craig's best bond film imo. I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...TheScreamingEagles said:SPECTRE was the finest Bond movie ever, FACT.
Best Bond Girl, best hairstyle on Bond (LOOK IT MATTERS, OK!), best plot, best miniatures (the last hurrah of a very noble British tradition), best Sean Bean, best Bond director (Martin Campbell), best theme, best M, best Tanner, best Moneypenny, best computer game. St Petersburg!
Possibly not the best suits (Connery circa Goldfinger wore it very well, and let's face it Casino-era Craig in a Tom Ford suit just takes it home and makes it breakfast), but it's close.
Plus Famke Janssen. Oh yes.0 -
I tink at this point the GOP want voters to turnout and vote Hilary just so they will vote Rep on the downticket races.0
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I am beginning to wonder if Trump has been a deep mole placed by the Clintons years ago. Set to implode at the perfect moment to get Hillary into the Oval Office.nunu said:
He could shoot someone on fifth avenue, and the Trump rampers on here would still claim it will likely help him not hurt him.619 said:so, do the trump rampers still think he will win?
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A farmer named Hollis,
With lizards and snakes sought solace,
His children had scales,
And prehensile tails,
And voted for Governor Wallace.0 -
What this thread title and many of the comments show is that the attachment of many people to democratic government is skin-deep.
At least they can now be called on it!0 -
Brexit Britain nil; European Union 1nunu said:
Westminster's fault.........Big_G_NorthWales said:And for a bit of light relief
Scotland 0 - Lithuania 10 -
There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President, though you can't be of unsound mind if you want to stand for the Senate or House of Reps. Unfortunate, because he must be very close to being sectionable.0
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On topic: I remember reading thread after thread on here for years stating that voters didn't care about the EU because few explicitly flagged it on a poorly designed survey. This thread header is in the same fashion.0
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he doesnt need Pence. He has the WWC nodding along, waiting to vote for him from what rassumen tells meTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn is really upsetting erstwhile friends by attending an SWP-organised event.0
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"this will not happen in the near term"AlastairMeeks said:On topic, a victory is a victory. The course is set until such point as sufficient numbers of the Brepenitent have paraded through the streets scourging themselves.
That will not happen in the near term, so the drama will continue to unfold.
Nor the long term.
The die is cast.0 -
Not going to happen.Speedy said:
If he doesn't quit soon he will be kicked out anyway.619 said:Trump wont quit he shouts
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/784840992734064641
They have already agreed his replacements:
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/784819461719293952
I do hate this election by media cycle.
So he is probably going to lose. Fair enough. So was Romney at this point last time.0 -
From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.0
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Scotland equalise0
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Shusht. I've been trying for weeks to get them to talk about the US election. Don't disturb them (tiptoes silently out of room, leaves nightlight on...)GideonWise said:On topic: I remember reading thread after thread on here for years stating that voters didn't care about the EU because few explicitly flagged it on a poorly designed survey. This thread header is in the same fashion.
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The RNC withdrawing support is perfect cover for Trump. He can carry on and lose and it will all be down to them, not him. It also gives his alleged new TV channel a claim to be non partisan (as they all hate him). In a way it's better for his ego for him to be dumped.0
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If the coup does succeed ie the party establishment succeeds in replacing the members choice it will not lead to sweetness and light.williamglenn said:From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
The establishment vs rest isnt going to go away if Clinton wins but it will poison things even more if the GoP defenestrate Trump.0 -
And if they dump him and he still wins...Thrak said:The RNC withdrawing support is perfect cover for Trump. He can carry on and lose and it will all be down to them, not him. It also gives his alleged new TV channel a claim to be non partisan (as they all hate him). In a way it's better for his ego for him to be dumped.
We're one seizure away from a second US revolution.0 -
It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...0
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See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are0 -
Pence is attending a Trump fund raiser this evening as Donald gets ready for the debate. It looks like trouble in paradise though.0
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NaaaaaahAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
. He lost .he left... correct decision.0 -
Ironically I was told he resigned in part to give his successor time to come up with a plan to avoid hard Brexit.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Had Dave stayed, he would have been forced to trigger article 50 within weeks, if not days.0 -
Scotland 1-1 final score0
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The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
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The desperation of the Brexiteers to paint the inevitable failure of their enterprise as being the fault of those who campaigned for or voted Remain is entertaining in its own wayAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
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They think they are very clever and anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions are very stupid.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are0 -
Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?0
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Back to more sane time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVhDpQ8Ab-I0 -
Just clicked you are anti frank...ha ha ha.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
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williamglenn said:
The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists0 -
As with Salmond. Politicians who stake all their political capital - in effect, their careers - on 'once in a generation' referendums can't stay on if they lose them.SquareRoot said:
NaaaaaahAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
. He lost .he left... correct decision.
Regarding Trump, he appears to have upset his wife as well - divorce no. 3(?) coming up?
I just worry about the health of American politics when the choice is between him and Hilary Clinton, who are substantively similar and horrendous.0 -
https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/784855205741416448
At least one (now former) LD clearly believes that a majority = a majority.
If Parliament wished to avoid Brexit being ordained by 50% + 1, it should've set a higher threshold. But it didn't.0 -
I partook in an Opinium poll earlier on this week which I'm hoping we'll see in tonight's ObserverMortimer said:Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?
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On topic, and haven't read the thread:
I've struggled since 24th June to understand why the media portrayed a totally f-cking close result as a clear victory. it wasn't. Full stop.
And off topic..
Great to see Trump crashing and burning. Ha ha. Too bad Plato, Rod etc....
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Ta TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
I partook in an Opinium poll earlier on this week which I'm hoping we'll see in tonight's ObserverMortimer said:Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?
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What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?Big_G_NorthWales said:williamglenn said:
The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.0 -
AlastairMeeks said:
It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
This is not an unreasonable point.
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Doesn't standing for President in itself demonstrate unsound mind?Ishmael_X said:There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President
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A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..williamglenn said:From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
(Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)
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Robby Mook, for those that don't know, is Clinton's campaign manager
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#awkwardTim_B said:Pence is attending a Trump fund raiser this evening as Donald gets ready for the debate. It looks like trouble in paradise though.
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Do not be riduculouswilliamglenn said:
What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?Big_G_NorthWales said:williamglenn said:
The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.0 -
Folks here are breathing a sigh of relief that Matthew wasn't as bad as it could have been. Over 800 dead in Haiti but only about 4 here.
The number of those evacuated was truly awesome.0 -
That's an interesting 'what if'.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.
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Probably not a good idea to get caught laughing / celebrating. Surely you should be caught looking serious and seriously offended on behalf of all women by what horrid things Trump has said.TheScreamingEagles said:Robby Mook, for those that don't know, is Clinton's campaign manager
https://twitter.com/jheil/status/784849223237918720
Less party bus, more outrage bus.0 -
Only 4/1?viewcode said:
A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..williamglenn said:From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
(Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)
If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.0 -
Who could have called you a little Englander G?Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
You're clearly a little whaler.
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The winning margin was 1.3 million votes, more than the entire electorate of Northern Ireland.Monksfield said:On topic, and haven't read the thread:
I've struggled since 24th June to understand why the media portrayed a totally f-cking close result as a clear victory. it wasn't. Full stop.
And off topic..
Great to see Trump crashing and burning. Ha ha. Too bad Plato, Rod etc....
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The desperation of Remoaners to predict 'inevitable failure' is entertaining in its own way.Scott_P said:
The desperation of the Brexiteers to paint the inevitable failure of their enterprise as being the fault of those who campaigned for or voted Remain is entertaining in its own wayAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Perhaps you would give us the details of the future as it is so inevitable to you ?
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That just bollocks though isn't it. The idea is dumb, as it doesn't actually achieve anything. It is up to the government to control immigration. But the outrage at registering demographics, is nonsense. It happens in lots of different ways already.TheScreamingEagles said:
In comparison, Trump want a policy of deliberating barring somebody based upon and only because of their religion.0 -
When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?0
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I am part English part Welsh with a Scots wife and three Welsh children. We are therefore British and proud to be soMonksfield said:
Who could have called you a little Englander G?Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
You're clearly a little whaler.0 -
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She was awesome in Penny Dreadful and the 300 sequel/prequelMonksfield said:0 -
#RemainerHyperboleTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Steve Hilton voted Leave.Sunil_Prasannan said:
#RemainerHyperpboleTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Tell em Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?
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If it looks like a duc..Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do not be riduculouswilliamglenn said:
What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?Big_G_NorthWales said:williamglenn said:
The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.
I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.
Just who do they think they are
The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.
Why the automatic identification of 'little Englander' with racist? The two terms are not synonymous.0 -
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A student union welfare officer has called for the National Anthem to be removed from a leading university's graduation ceremony because of 'increasing far right nationalism'.
Mr Abdullahi studied Geography as a postgraduate. His interests are described in an online profile as 'the intersection of race and gender as well as class, disability and sexuality'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3828682/University-considers-banning-National-Anthem-graduation-ceremonies-links-increasing-far-right-nationalism.html0 -
"A new cabinet split over the handling of Brexit has emerged as ministers privately attacked each other over how to approach EU negotiations.
Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, has been blamed for talking down Britain’s hopes of getting a good deal and attacked for his “relentless pessimism”.
One cabinet colleague went as far saying that Mr Hammond, who voted to stay in the EU, should “watch his back” and could lose his job".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/08/cabinet-split-over-handling-of-brexit/0 -
Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.another_richard said:
That's an interesting 'what if'.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.0 -
He's not a top bloke at all. For him to intervene in the way he did was despicable.TheScreamingEagles said:
Steve Hilton voted Leave.Sunil_Prasannan said:
#RemainerHyperpboleTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Fair point.foxinsoxuk said:
Only 4/1?viewcode said:
A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..williamglenn said:From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
(Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)
If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.
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Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime MinisterAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
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Every bloody time...Sunil_Prasannan said:When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?
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Anyone who actively wishes to become a politician, a traffic warden or wants to serve on a jury is guaranteed to be the wrong person for the job.ThreeQuidder said:
Doesn't standing for President in itself demonstrate unsound mind?Ishmael_X said:There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President
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The most high-profile cabinet critics of a third runway at Heathrow – Boris Johnson and Justine Greening – will be “unavoidably away” when the Commons votes on the issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/08/heathrow-third-runway-expansion-boris-johnson-justine-greening-miss-commons-vote0 -
Exactly, and many other countries do the same thing. I suspect that if we'd voted Remain and decided to collect such data the proposal would barely register. But because Remainers are grasping at every straw it becomes an "outrage", just like training enough doctors to meet our own needs.FrancisUrquhart said:That just bollocks though isn't it. The idea is dumb, as it doesn't actually achieve anything. It is up to the government to control immigration. But the outrage at registering demographics, is nonsense. It happens in lots of different ways already.
I'll say one thing about Remainers they are giving the loony left a run for their money in being offended by everything.0 -
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Yes, in fairyland, reality is just there to be shot at.JonathanD said:"A new cabinet split over the handling of Brexit has emerged as ministers privately attacked each other over how to approach EU negotiations.
Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, has been blamed for talking down Britain’s hopes of getting a good deal and attacked for his “relentless pessimism”.
One cabinet colleague went as far saying that Mr Hammond, who voted to stay in the EU, should “watch his back” and could lose his job".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/08/cabinet-split-over-handling-of-brexit/
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We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.williamglenn said:
Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.another_richard said:
That's an interesting 'what if'.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.0 -
Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
"citation needed"viewcode said:
Every bloody time...Sunil_Prasannan said:When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?
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The cries of betrayal would be too much. He had to handover.Alistair said:
Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime MinisterAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
The three Brexiteers are driving the bus now. Only they can decide to do a u -turn away from hard Brexit.
I just wish that I had shifted more of my assets out of Sterling sooner.0 -
I disagree a close result would have been the worst scenario.GeoffM said:
We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.williamglenn said:
Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.another_richard said:
That's an interesting 'what if'.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.0 -
John McCain possibly?TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
The new Trump stuff isn't in the same league as yesterday's comments. A lot of the offensive stuff is actually Howard Stern saying them and Trump not disagreeing.
It is Howard f##king Stern Show, everybody know how it goes. I guess a more valid criticism is why would one go on the Howard Stern show..but then many many people have, because it has such a huge listenership (or at least did back in the day).
But it does it job of continuing to bury Trump further in the do do, which is clearly the object of the exercise.0 -
It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
Above 10/1 he'd probably be value, on the basis that we don't know for sure how grabapussygate is going to play out in the polls.viewcode said:
Fair point.foxinsoxuk said:
Only 4/1?viewcode said:
A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..williamglenn said:From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
(Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)
If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.
We assume it'll hurt him, but until we have the numbers we don't know.
Also he has a debate tomorrow night, which offers him the opportunity to change the narrative.
10/1 and above would be value.0 -
The only person we know for a fact John McCain thinks is fit to be President is Sarah Palin.Charles said:
John McCain possibly?TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
He did not put party before country, that is absurd.foxinsoxuk said:
The cries of betrayal would be too much. He had to handover.Alistair said:
Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime MinisterAlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
The three Brexiteers are driving the bus now. Only they can decide to do a u -turn away from hard Brexit.
I just wish that I had shifted more of my assets out of Sterling sooner.
He put himself before party and country/0 -
McCain withdraws support from Trump.0
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That's a good point when you think longer term.NoEasyDay said:
I disagree a close result would have been the worst scenario.GeoffM said:
We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.williamglenn said:
Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.another_richard said:
That's an interesting 'what if'.AlastairMeeks said:It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.
You are right. The clear win settled it.0 -
The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.Theuniondivvie said:
It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!0 -
Wait for the votes to be counted before you laugh.TheScreamingEagles said:
The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.Theuniondivvie said:
It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.Toms said:Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!0 -
Well none of them were prepared to bet or even predict Trump's share of the vote in D.C.williamglenn said:
Wait for the votes to be counted before you laugh.TheScreamingEagles said:
The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.Theuniondivvie said:
It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.TheScreamingEagles said:Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."
McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."0 -
Yup.FrancisUrquhart said:
You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.Toms said:Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
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Talking of not fit to be President... Rubio was a yappy little dog who would have caused World War 3.FrancisUrquhart said:
You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.Toms said:Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
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They've been hoisted by their own petard. Critical analysis is only to be directed at nasty libruls. That is until the elephant over there becomes planet sized. It did.FrancisUrquhart said:
You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.Toms said:Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
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I think most of the Republican runners are partial to creationism, and therefore nuts in my book.williamglenn said:
Talking of not fit to be President... Rubio was a yappy little dog who would have caused World War 3.FrancisUrquhart said:
You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.Toms said:Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!
Actually I never found what Trump thinks about that.0
