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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790
    edited October 2016
    jonny83 said:

    SPECTRE was the finest Bond movie ever, FACT.

    From Russia with Love, then probably Casino Royale for me. Casino Royale was Craig's best bond film imo. I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...
    CoughCoughGoldeneyeCoughCough

    Best Bond Girl, best hairstyle on Bond (LOOK IT MATTERS, OK!), best plot, best miniatures (the last hurrah of a very noble British tradition), best Sean Bean, best Bond director (Martin Campbell), best theme, best M, best Tanner, best Moneypenny, best computer game. St Petersburg!

    Possibly not the best suits (Connery circa Goldfinger wore it very well, and let's face it Casino-era Craig in a Tom Ford suit just takes it home and makes it breakfast), but it's close.

    Plus Famke Janssen. Oh yes.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    I tink at this point the GOP want voters to turnout and vote Hilary just so they will vote Rep on the downticket races.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    nunu said:

    619 said:

    so, do the trump rampers still think he will win?

    He could shoot someone on fifth avenue, and the Trump rampers on here would still claim it will likely help him not hurt him.
    I am beginning to wonder if Trump has been a deep mole placed by the Clintons years ago. Set to implode at the perfect moment to get Hillary into the Oval Office.

    (Is it dangerous to eat popcorn while wearing a a tinfoil titfer?)
  • surbiton said:

    619 said:
    In 1964, New York had two Republican senators. California possibly as well.
    A different era.

    There were conservative and liberal wings to the Republicans while the Democrats had social democrat, conservative and KKK factions.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    A farmer named Hollis,
    With lizards and snakes sought solace,
    His children had scales,
    And prehensile tails,
    And voted for Governor Wallace.
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    What this thread title and many of the comments show is that the attachment of many people to democratic government is skin-deep.

    At least they can now be called on it!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    nunu said:

    And for a bit of light relief

    Scotland 0 - Lithuania 1

    Westminster's fault.........
    Brexit Britain nil; European Union 1
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited October 2016
    There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President, though you can't be of unsound mind if you want to stand for the Senate or House of Reps. Unfortunate, because he must be very close to being sectionable.
  • GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    edited October 2016
    On topic: I remember reading thread after thread on here for years stating that voters didn't care about the EU because few explicitly flagged it on a poorly designed survey. This thread header is in the same fashion.
  • 619619 Posts: 1,784
    he doesnt need Pence. He has the WWC nodding along, waiting to vote for him from what rassumen tells me
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn is really upsetting erstwhile friends by attending an SWP-organised event.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    On topic, a victory is a victory. The course is set until such point as sufficient numbers of the Brepenitent have paraded through the streets scourging themselves.

    That will not happen in the near term, so the drama will continue to unfold.

    "this will not happen in the near term"

    Nor the long term.

    The die is cast.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Speedy said:

    619 said:
    If he doesn't quit soon he will be kicked out anyway.
    They have already agreed his replacements:

    https://twitter.com/costareports/status/784819461719293952
    Not going to happen.

    I do hate this election by media cycle.

    So he is probably going to lose. Fair enough. So was Romney at this point last time.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790
    jonny83 said:

    I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...

    I found out the other day she's French.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917
    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.
  • Scotland equalise
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790

    On topic: I remember reading thread after thread on here for years stating that voters didn't care about the EU because few explicitly flagged it on a poorly designed survey. This thread header is in the same fashion.

    Shusht. I've been trying for weeks to get them to talk about the US election. Don't disturb them (tiptoes silently out of room, leaves nightlight on...)
  • ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    The RNC withdrawing support is perfect cover for Trump. He can carry on and lose and it will all be down to them, not him. It also gives his alleged new TV channel a claim to be non partisan (as they all hate him). In a way it's better for his ego for him to be dumped.
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited October 2016

    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.

    If the coup does succeed ie the party establishment succeeds in replacing the members choice it will not lead to sweetness and light.

    The establishment vs rest isnt going to go away if Clinton wins but it will poison things even more if the GoP defenestrate Trump.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917
    Thrak said:

    The RNC withdrawing support is perfect cover for Trump. He can carry on and lose and it will all be down to them, not him. It also gives his alleged new TV channel a claim to be non partisan (as they all hate him). In a way it's better for his ego for him to be dumped.

    And if they dump him and he still wins...

    We're one seizure away from a second US revolution.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...
  • See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Pence is attending a Trump fund raiser this evening as Donald gets ready for the debate. It looks like trouble in paradise though.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Naaaaaah


    . He lost .he left... correct decision.
  • Scotland 1-1 final score
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,407
    edited October 2016

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Ironically I was told he resigned in part to give his successor time to come up with a plan to avoid hard Brexit.

    Had Dave stayed, he would have been forced to trigger article 50 within weeks, if not days.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    The desperation of the Brexiteers to paint the inevitable failure of their enterprise as being the fault of those who campaigned for or voted Remain is entertaining in its own way
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    They think they are very clever and anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions are very stupid.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Just clicked you are anti frank...ha ha ha.
  • See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.

    The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,169

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Naaaaaah


    . He lost .he left... correct decision.
    As with Salmond. Politicians who stake all their political capital - in effect, their careers - on 'once in a generation' referendums can't stay on if they lose them.

    Regarding Trump, he appears to have upset his wife as well - divorce no. 3(?) coming up?

    I just worry about the health of American politics when the choice is between him and Hilary Clinton, who are substantively similar and horrendous.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/784855205741416448

    At least one (now former) LD clearly believes that a majority = a majority.

    If Parliament wished to avoid Brexit being ordained by 50% + 1, it should've set a higher threshold. But it didn't.
  • Mortimer said:

    Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?

    I partook in an Opinium poll earlier on this week which I'm hoping we'll see in tonight's Observer
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    On topic, and haven't read the thread:

    I've struggled since 24th June to understand why the media portrayed a totally f-cking close result as a clear victory. it wasn't. Full stop.

    And off topic..

    Great to see Trump crashing and burning. Ha ha. Too bad Plato, Rod etc....

  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Mortimer said:

    Are we expecting any VI polls this evening?

    I partook in an Opinium poll earlier on this week which I'm hoping we'll see in tonight's Observer
    Ta TSE!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.

    The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
    What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?

    If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...


    This is not an unreasonable point.

  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Ishmael_X said:

    There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President

    Doesn't standing for President in itself demonstrate unsound mind?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790

    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.

    A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..

    (Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)

  • Robby Mook, for those that don't know, is Clinton's campaign manager

    https://twitter.com/jheil/status/784849223237918720
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Tim_B said:

    Pence is attending a Trump fund raiser this evening as Donald gets ready for the debate. It looks like trouble in paradise though.

    #awkward
  • See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.

    The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
    What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?

    If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.
    Do not be riduculous
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Folks here are breathing a sigh of relief that Matthew wasn't as bad as it could have been. Over 800 dead in Haiti but only about 4 here.

    The number of those evacuated was truly awesome.
  • It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    That's an interesting 'what if'.

    Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited October 2016

    Robby Mook, for those that don't know, is Clinton's campaign manager

    https://twitter.com/jheil/status/784849223237918720

    Probably not a good idea to get caught laughing / celebrating. Surely you should be caught looking serious and seriously offended on behalf of all women by what horrid things Trump has said.

    Less party bus, more outrage bus.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    viewcode said:

    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.

    A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..

    (Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)

    Only 4/1?

    If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838

    See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    Who could have called you a little Englander G?

    You're clearly a little whaler.
  • On topic, and haven't read the thread:

    I've struggled since 24th June to understand why the media portrayed a totally f-cking close result as a clear victory. it wasn't. Full stop.

    And off topic..

    Great to see Trump crashing and burning. Ha ha. Too bad Plato, Rod etc....

    The winning margin was 1.3 million votes, more than the entire electorate of Northern Ireland.
  • Scott_P said:

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    The desperation of the Brexiteers to paint the inevitable failure of their enterprise as being the fault of those who campaigned for or voted Remain is entertaining in its own way
    The desperation of Remoaners to predict 'inevitable failure' is entertaining in its own way.

    Perhaps you would give us the details of the future as it is so inevitable to you ?
  • That just bollocks though isn't it. The idea is dumb, as it doesn't actually achieve anything. It is up to the government to control immigration. But the outrage at registering demographics, is nonsense. It happens in lots of different ways already.

    In comparison, Trump want a policy of deliberating barring somebody based upon and only because of their religion.
  • When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?
  • See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    Who could have called you a little Englander G?

    You're clearly a little whaler.
    I am part English part Welsh with a Scots wife and three Welsh children. We are therefore British and proud to be so
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    viewcode said:

    jonny83 said:

    I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...

    I found out the other day she's French.
    French and swedish. Properly lovely too.
  • viewcode said:

    jonny83 said:

    I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...

    I found out the other day she's French.
    French and swedish. Properly lovely too.
    She was awesome in Penny Dreadful and the 300 sequel/prequel
  • Steve Hilton voted Leave.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?

    Tell em Sunil.
  • See the Observer is falling back on calling those of us who want sovereignty of Parliament as Little Englanders. The fall back insult of all the liberal remoaners together calling leavers racists.

    I am absolutely not a Little England and there is not a racist bone in my body.

    Just who do they think they are

    The equation 'little Englander' = 'racist' is in your head only.

    The word Little Englander is an insult and Diane Abbott is the best example of calling those wanting to leave the EU as racists
    What does Diane Abbott have to do with the price of fish?

    If you feel insulted, perhaps you have a guilty conscience.
    Do not be riduculous
    If it looks like a duc..

    Why the automatic identification of 'little Englander' with racist? The two terms are not synonymous.
  • A student union welfare officer has called for the National Anthem to be removed from a leading university's graduation ceremony because of 'increasing far right nationalism'.

    Mr Abdullahi studied Geography as a postgraduate. His interests are described in an online profile as 'the intersection of race and gender as well as class, disability and sexuality'.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3828682/University-considers-banning-National-Anthem-graduation-ceremonies-links-increasing-far-right-nationalism.html
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    "A new cabinet split over the handling of Brexit has emerged as ministers privately attacked each other over how to approach EU negotiations. 
    Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, has been blamed for talking down Britain’s hopes of getting a good deal and attacked for his “relentless pessimism”. 
    One cabinet colleague went as far saying that Mr Hammond, who voted to stay in the EU, should “watch his back” and could lose his job".

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/08/cabinet-split-over-handling-of-brexit/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    That's an interesting 'what if'.

    Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.

    Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    Steve Hilton voted Leave.
    He's not a top bloke at all. For him to intervene in the way he did was despicable.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790

    viewcode said:

    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.

    A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..

    (Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)

    Only 4/1?

    If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.
    Fair point.

  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime Minister
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790

    When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?

    Every bloody time...
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Ishmael_X said:

    There is no provision in the Constitution debarring persons of unsound mind from standing for President

    Doesn't standing for President in itself demonstrate unsound mind?
    Anyone who actively wishes to become a politician, a traffic warden or wants to serve on a jury is guaranteed to be the wrong person for the job.
  • The most high-profile cabinet critics of a third runway at Heathrow – Boris Johnson and Justine Greening – will be “unavoidably away” when the Commons votes on the issue.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/08/heathrow-third-runway-expansion-boris-johnson-justine-greening-miss-commons-vote
  • glwglw Posts: 10,017

    That just bollocks though isn't it. The idea is dumb, as it doesn't actually achieve anything. It is up to the government to control immigration. But the outrage at registering demographics, is nonsense. It happens in lots of different ways already.

    Exactly, and many other countries do the same thing. I suspect that if we'd voted Remain and decided to collect such data the proposal would barely register. But because Remainers are grasping at every straw it becomes an "outrage", just like training enough doctors to meet our own needs.

    I'll say one thing about Remainers they are giving the loony left a run for their money in being offended by everything.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    Bluff, Bluster and bullshit.

    Remain lost get over it.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,790

    viewcode said:

    jonny83 said:

    I love Eva Green though so I am tad biased...

    I found out the other day she's French.
    French and swedish. Properly lovely too.
    Indeed
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    JonathanD said:

    "A new cabinet split over the handling of Brexit has emerged as ministers privately attacked each other over how to approach EU negotiations. 
    Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, has been blamed for talking down Britain’s hopes of getting a good deal and attacked for his “relentless pessimism”. 
    One cabinet colleague went as far saying that Mr Hammond, who voted to stay in the EU, should “watch his back” and could lose his job".

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/08/cabinet-split-over-handling-of-brexit/

    Yes, in fairyland, reality is just there to be shot at.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    That's an interesting 'what if'.

    Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.

    Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.
    We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.
  • Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."
  • viewcode said:

    When a football team lose a penalty shoot-out by a single goal, does the losing side demand a rematch?

    Every bloody time...
    "citation needed"
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Alistair said:

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime Minister
    The cries of betrayal would be too much. He had to handover.

    The three Brexiteers are driving the bus now. Only they can decide to do a u -turn away from hard Brexit.

    I just wish that I had shifted more of my assets out of Sterling sooner.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    GeoffM said:

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    That's an interesting 'what if'.

    Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.

    Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.
    We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.
    I disagree a close result would have been the worst scenario.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    John McCain possibly?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited October 2016
    The new Trump stuff isn't in the same league as yesterday's comments. A lot of the offensive stuff is actually Howard Stern saying them and Trump not disagreeing.

    It is Howard f##king Stern Show, everybody know how it goes. I guess a more valid criticism is why would one go on the Howard Stern show..but then many many people have, because it has such a huge listenership (or at least did back in the day).

    But it does it job of continuing to bury Trump further in the do do, which is clearly the object of the exercise.
  • Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2016
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    From a purely betting standpoint, Trump is becoming better value by the minute. This attempted GOP coup will fail.

    A betting post about a current election? What an innovation! Well, let's see if it catches on..

    (Unsarcastically, yes you are right. Trump won't withdraw voluntarily, he doesn't bolt. What he does do us let it fail, blame somebody else, then guiltlessly moves on leaving others to clean up his mess. So even if the GOP withdraws all support, he'll still run and as he's on the ballot, they can't win. It's like the Labour Cabinet rebellion: all talk, no knife)

    Only 4/1?

    If Trump were 40/1 it might represent value.
    Fair point.

    Above 10/1 he'd probably be value, on the basis that we don't know for sure how grabapussygate is going to play out in the polls.

    We assume it'll hurt him, but until we have the numbers we don't know.

    Also he has a debate tomorrow night, which offers him the opportunity to change the narrative.

    10/1 and above would be value.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917
    Charles said:

    Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    John McCain possibly?
    The only person we know for a fact John McCain thinks is fit to be President is Sarah Palin.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    Alistair said:

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    Cameron repeatedly put party before country. A rather sickening decision from a Prime Minister
    The cries of betrayal would be too much. He had to handover.

    The three Brexiteers are driving the bus now. Only they can decide to do a u -turn away from hard Brexit.

    I just wish that I had shifted more of my assets out of Sterling sooner.
    He did not put party before country, that is absurd.

    He put himself before party and country/
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    McCain withdraws support from Trump.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    NoEasyDay said:

    GeoffM said:

    It has been suggested to me that David Cameron is responsible for hard Brexit. If he'd stayed after the referendum, the argument goes, he would have secured a soft boiled exit. Maybe he should be seen as having let Britain down twice...

    That's an interesting 'what if'.

    Especially if he had immediately activated A50 as he promised to do.

    Counterintuitively, inviting the deluge may have been a better way of avoiding the worst case scenario.
    We dodged the worst case scenario - which would have been a Remain result.
    I disagree a close result would have been the worst scenario.
    That's a good point when you think longer term.
    You are right. The clear win settled it.
  • Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.
    The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.
    The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.
    Wait for the votes to be counted before you laugh.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited October 2016
    Toms said:

    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!

    You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.
  • Inbox, from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): "Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. ... and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton."

    McCain adds that and his wife "will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be [p]resident."

    It's quite funny that all those who were touting Trump as 'not a traditional conservative' in an attempt to boost his angry WWC appeal are now realising that traditional conservatives don't like that shit.
    The funniest thing in this entire race has been PBers ramping the African Americans for Trump like he was Abe Lincoln.
    Wait for the votes to be counted before you laugh.
    Well none of them were prepared to bet or even predict Trump's share of the vote in D.C.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478

    Toms said:

    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!

    You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.
    Yup.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,917

    Toms said:

    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!

    You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.
    Talking of not fit to be President... Rubio was a yappy little dog who would have caused World War 3.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838

    Toms said:

    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!

    You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.
    They've been hoisted by their own petard. Critical analysis is only to be directed at nasty libruls. That is until the elephant over there becomes planet sized. It did.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2016

    Toms said:

    Just in passing I say that I can't see why anyone could be surprised by this latest Trump scandal. It's been tattooed on him from the beginning.
    Now: go Trump and take some Republicans with you!

    You wonder why the GOP didn't dig up the stuff like Howard Stern show and bury him before he even won the primary. Instead like a suicide bomber, he managed to blow up the like of Rubio's career, which was probably the GOP best hope of winning.
    Talking of not fit to be President... Rubio was a yappy little dog who would have caused World War 3.
    I think most of the Republican runners are partial to creationism, and therefore nuts in my book.
    Actually I never found what Trump thinks about that.
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