"Incidents against women that are motivated by an attitude of a man towards a woman and includes behaviour targeted towards a woman by men simply because they are a woman."
I wonder if the reverse (misandry) is covered too, but shan't be holding my breath. Intriguing we now have a crime only one gender can commit
Still not pleased about this aspect, though: "It means abuse or harassment which might not be a crime can be reported to and investigated by the police, and support for the victim put in place."
Things that aren't crimes shouldn't be investigated by the police. Someone being a tosser is unpleasant, but the police are there to enforce the law, not to try and make the world lovely.
If someone calls me a silly bitch in a Nottingham street, the police [according to this] would not do anything. If I were a woman, they would. That's just daft.
What will be interesting is the first time a woman gets charged for a mysogynist offence!
Totally agree on police not investigating non crimes. If they are there to enforce good behaviour, not just prevent or catch criminal behaviour, they are moral police not just police.
I am a little sceptical of the whole concept of "hate crimes", but this one may well prove useful at controlling the misbehaviour of the sort seen in some European cities. Far better than women only carriages.
I reckon Jezza's had a good month or so. Saying very little on his unlimited immigration desire during the referendum debate, seeing his Labour enemies ejaculate prematurely, and now he can sit back and smile. Having been an SWP cuckoo for thirty years, he can now start throwing the other eggs out the nest.
"What's that coming over the hill? It's deselection, deselection."
Cameron led by example and got his party to partake in a standing ovation for Blair, will Corbyn do that? If Corbyn and his closest comrades sit down and the Lab backbenchers stand up it would look very bad, though I doubt Corbyn cares.
Whether people liked or disliked Blair, does anyone really deny that he was a much more "impactful" PM than Cameron has been?
I don't usually think of people as "impactful", but if I had to give the label to somebody it would probably be Edward John Smith, RD, RNR (27 January 1850 – 15 April 1912).
The poor bastard wasn't even on the bridge at the time...
No, but the ship was still sailing under his orders i.e. too fast in an area known to contain icebergs.
The Titanic 'disaster' no one remembers is the botched evacuation - managed properly Smith could have nearly doubled the number of survivors.....
That job had to be delegated. Some junior officers behaved differently. Some thought the boats would buckle, or could be loaded from the lower gangways.
Some misinterpreted women and children first as women and children only...
Cameron led by example and got his party to partake in a standing ovation for Blair, will Corbyn do that? If Corbyn and his closest comrades sit down and the Lab backbenchers stand up it would look very bad, though I doubt Corbyn cares.
Whether people liked or disliked Blair, does anyone really deny that he was a much more "impactful" PM than Cameron has been?
I don't usually think of people as "impactful", but if I had to give the label to somebody it would probably be Edward John Smith, RD, RNR (27 January 1850 – 15 April 1912).
The poor bastard wasn't even on the bridge at the time...
No, but the ship was still sailing under his orders i.e. too fast in an area known to contain icebergs.
The Titanic 'disaster' no one remembers is the botched evacuation - managed properly Smith could have nearly doubled the number of survivors.....
That job had to be delegated. Some junior officers behaved differently. Some thought the boats would buckle, or could be loaded from the lower gangways.
Some misinterpreted women and children first as women and children only...
Failure of Smith's leadership. They knew the numbers.
Cameron led by example and got his party to partake in a standing ovation for Blair, will Corbyn do that? If Corbyn and his closest comrades sit down and the Lab backbenchers stand up it would look very bad, though I doubt Corbyn cares.
Whether people liked or disliked Blair, does anyone really deny that he was a much more "impactful" PM than Cameron has been?
I don't usually think of people as "impactful", but if I had to give the label to somebody it would probably be Edward John Smith, RD, RNR (27 January 1850 – 15 April 1912).
The poor bastard wasn't even on the bridge at the time...
No, but the ship was still sailing under his orders i.e. too fast in an area known to contain icebergs.
The Titanic 'disaster' no one remembers is the botched evacuation - managed properly Smith could have nearly doubled the number of survivors.....
That job had to be delegated. Some junior officers behaved differently. Some thought the boats would buckle, or could be loaded from the lower gangways.
Some misinterpreted women and children first as women and children only...
The 'best' thing about the Titanic disaster (if anything could be classed as best about such a waste of life) was that rules and regulations were changed in the aftermath.
Perhaps more lives were saved in the long run as a consequence, especially with WWI coming so soon afterwards.
David Cameron is just so fantastic in this theatre - he will be missed
Wonder if May offered him a job.
Why not? Chamberlain served under Churchill. What job would best suit him?
FCO.
If the Foreign office usedvRyanair for official trips it would save a bundle.
Education Sec would suit him best. Seems to be the area he is most passionate about, served briefly as shadow Ed Sec under Howard and wouldn't be one of the 'big beasts' in cabinet.
Douglas Home served as Foreign Sec under Heath, being the last PM to serve under another.
Cameron's bloody good... It's a shame things ended so badly for him.
He brought it upon himself, but it has also seen off for now the coronation of Osborne which would have been so much worse for the party and the country.
I think Foreign Secretary would be the best position for Dave, but he'll need to sit on the back benches for a while so May can stamp her authority on the new Cabinet.
Cameron's bloody good... It's a shame things ended so badly for him.
it's not a shame when you realise what a dodgy bastard he was. Glad his legacy is in tatters and hopefully May will prove to be more in touch with the electorate and less of a slippery showman.
Angus Robertson starts light, with the anniversary of Balkan genocide and being a miseryguts.
The sketch writers always paint him in such good light.
For example:
"Angus Robertson was so brimming with the milk of human kindness that he almost turned to cheese on national television. Robertson is a sanctity robot who scours the earth looking for human tragedies he can turned into box-office gold. And he’s found a hum-dinger...."
Jo Maugham QC @JolyonMaugham 5m5 minutes ago Don't choke on your quinoa, Corbyn fans, but @OwenSmith_MP is basically even money on Betfair to beat him.
I think Foreign Secretary would be the best position for Dave, but he'll need to sit on the back benches for a while so May can stamp her authority on the new Cabinet.
Agreed. I could see a way back for him but not yet.
I think Foreign Secretary would be the best position for Dave, but he'll need to sit on the back benches for a while so May can stamp her authority on the new Cabinet.
I think Foreign Secretary would be the best position for Dave, but he'll need to sit on the back benches for a while so May can stamp her authority on the new Cabinet.
I can see him mentoring some of the younger Tories for the next time around.
David Cameron is just so fantastic in this theatre - he will be missed
Wonder if May offered him a job.
Why not? Chamberlain served under Churchill. What job would best suit him?
FCO.
If the Foreign office usedvRyanair for official trips it would save a bundle.
Education Sec would suit him best. Seems to be the area he is most passionate about, served briefly as shadow Ed Sec under Howard and wouldn't be one of the 'big beasts' in cabinet.
Douglas Home served as Foreign Sec under Heath, being the last PM to serve under another.
Forgot about Home. I think the Foreign Office would suit Cameron. Certainly has the contacts.
Green candidate Jill Stein's response to Bernie Sanders's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was "HillNo", "JillYes".
If Stein can win enough votes from some of Bernie Sanders's supporters, or enough support to get into the TV debates, it could be curtains for Clinton. Donald Trump's endorser Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News could help. Maybe Trump and Stein will fight over climate change.
Mid price at Betfair for Trump has risen to 4.2.
The Green Party's convention comes after the Dem and Rep conventions.
You know the secret of great comedy, don't you. Same here on PB.
Timing?
Are you saying it's not OK to talk in the comments about political betting topics that aren't related to the subject of the article? The US presidential election is the next big market. £16 million at Betfair already. But if I've committed a faux pas I'll shut up
Jo Maugham QC @JolyonMaugham 5m5 minutes ago Don't choke on your quinoa, Corbyn fans, but @OwenSmith_MP is basically even money on Betfair to beat him.
Jo Maugham QC @JolyonMaugham 5m5 minutes ago Don't choke on your quinoa, Corbyn fans, but @OwenSmith_MP is basically even money on Betfair to beat him.
he's not though is he? he's even money to be next Labour leader which is a different market. When they price up a labour leadership election market Corbyn will be odds on I would assume.
David Cameron is just so fantastic in this theatre - he will be missed
Wonder if May offered him a job.
Why not? Chamberlain served under Churchill. What job would best suit him?
Chamberlain not only served under Churchill but probably in those dark days of 1940 made sure that the Churchill premiership survived until July. Without Chamberlain's support in cabinet it is likely that Halifax would have forced Churchill out and made peace with Hitler.
However, those were different days, different men who lived by different standards. Home, who served at the FCO under Heath, was probably the last of them.
Green candidate Jill Stein's response to Bernie Sanders's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was "HillNo", "JillYes".
If Stein can win enough votes from some of Bernie Sanders's supporters, or enough support to get into the TV debates, it could be curtains for Clinton. Donald Trump's endorser Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News could help. Maybe Trump and Stein will fight over climate change.
Mid price at Betfair for Trump has risen to 4.2.
The Green Party's convention comes after the Dem and Rep conventions.
You know the secret of great comedy, don't you. Same here on PB.
Timing?
Are you saying it's not OK to talk in the comments about political betting topics that aren't related to the subject of the article? The US presidential election is the next big market. £16 million at Betfair already.
Comments on the US POTUS/DEM/GOP markets are ALWAYS more than welcome.
Alot of PBers are involved with these markets.
V nice first post btw. A big push from Jill Stein could indeed be just what Trump needs
Been listening to much talk this morning about May's options for Brexit and suggestions that any deal must include reduced immigration. Surely before doing anything she should set up some sort of inquiry to establish whether immigration is actually too high, is actually keeping wages down, if public services are under pressure from immigration.
Otherwise we face forcing a government to set policy for the future of the UK, based not on known facts, but on the PERCEPTION of a proportion of the electorate.
Evidence based policy would be very welcome.
Incidentally Tony Rogers (Tony Benn's Chesterfield opponent) told me last night that May had knicked the worker on the board policy from the 1960s liberals !
Yes...I recall it was a SDP policy back in the day
Jo Maugham QC @JolyonMaugham 5m5 minutes ago Don't choke on your quinoa, Corbyn fans, but @OwenSmith_MP is basically even money on Betfair to beat him.
he's not though is he? he's even money to be next Labour leader which is a different market. When they price up a labour leadership election market Corbyn will be odds on I would assume.
@Pong matched Corbyn at 11-10, remarkably in that market.
Green candidate Jill Stein's response to Bernie Sanders's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was "HillNo", "JillYes".
If Stein can win enough votes from some of Bernie Sanders's supporters, or enough support to get into the TV debates, it could be curtains for Clinton. Donald Trump's endorser Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News could help. Maybe Trump and Stein will fight over climate change.
Mid price at Betfair for Trump has risen to 4.2.
The Green Party's convention comes after the Dem and Rep conventions.
You know the secret of great comedy, don't you. Same here on PB.
Timing?
Are you saying it's not OK to talk in the comments about political betting topics that aren't related to the subject of the article? The US presidential election is the next big market. £16 million at Betfair already. But if I've committed a faux pas I'll shut up
They don't "get" that parliament is supposed to be a little club where greasy pole climbers can backslap each other across the benches.
Good. This appalling display of fawning over Cameron is a disgrace to democracy. An undeserved theatre show of praise for a man whose time in office has achieved virtually nothing of value.
Indeed, the SNP do not "get" that Parliament is theatre and not a legislature and despise that the British people are let down so badly by their elected representatives from the old, mainstream parties. They are right to find it disgusting, it is Britains greatest shame.
They don't get that parliament is supposed to be a little club where greasy pole climbers can backslap each other across the benches.
Good. This appalling display of fawning over Cameron is a disgrace to democracy. An undeserved theatre show of praise for a man whose time in office has achieved virtually nothing.
Indeed, the SNP do not "get" that Parliament is theatre and not a legislature and despite that the British people are let down so badly by their elected representatives from the old, mainstream parties. They are right to find it disgusting, it is Britains greatest shame.
As head of the provisional wing of the continuity Cameron Army, time for me get very tired and emotional
How would you rate Dave's chances of taking up a role in the Cabinet once May has settled in and stamped her authority? I'd like to see him in the foreign office.
If so, it reflects a view from the wwc that I heard when on my sojourn there recently. Vote leave to 'get the immigrants from taking our jobs', vote labour to 'get money put into services and benefits'. I did point out the dangers to the economy of that but having cake and eating it seems to be the order of the day. It is probably an outlier but there's good reason to think thar labour vote would hold up. Of course, a split would confuse that somewhat.
Cameron's bloody good... It's a shame things ended so badly for him.
wtf...
I supported Cameron for years.
I liked him a lot (on a personal level I still do) it's was just all this Brexit stuff that finished him off in my eye's but doesn't mean I don't recognise what a class act he is in the Commons.
Green candidate Jill Stein's response to Bernie Sanders's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was "HillNo", "JillYes".
If Stein can win enough votes from some of Bernie Sanders's supporters, or enough support to get into the TV debates, it could be curtains for Clinton. Donald Trump's endorser Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News could help. Maybe Trump and Stein will fight over climate change.
Mid price at Betfair for Trump has risen to 4.2.
The Green Party's convention comes after the Dem and Rep conventions.
You know the secret of great comedy, don't you. Same here on PB.
Timing?
Are you saying it's not OK to talk in the comments about political betting topics that aren't related to the subject of the article? The US presidential election is the next big market. £16 million at Betfair already. But if I've committed a faux pas I'll shut up
So on next Labour leader bets if Corbyn wins do bets for other people stand or are they treating this as a bit like when David Tennant regenerated into himself?
As head of the provisional wing of the continuity Cameron Army, time for me get very tired and emotional
How would you rate Dave's chances of taking up a role in the Cabinet once May has settled in and stamped her authority? I'd like to see him in the foreign office.
I suspect once we've left the EU, he could do it.
The loonbag wing prior to us leaving would make Theresa May's life unbearable
We have swapped a consumate operator and Remainer, for a largely unknown one, not as adept as people wish she was (although ofc in a different street from Leadsom), and, moreover, one who was directly responsible for the failure of policy which led to Brexit in the first place.
So on next Labour leader bets if Corbyn wins do bets for other people stand or are they treating this as a bit like when David Tennant regenerated into himself?
Check the market rules.
For most bookmakers, I expect the bets will stand and settle on the next permanent leader after corbyn.
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"What's that coming over the hill? It's deselection, deselection."
Some misinterpreted women and children first as women and children only...
(*) Naturally, not including the TINOs.
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 36% (+1)
LAB: 35% (+1)
LDEM: 11% (+2) Winning here.
UKIP: 8% (-2)
GRN: 4% (-)
(via Ipsos Mori / 09 - 11 Jul)
Tory landslide on hold?
If the Foreign office usedvRyanair for official trips it would save a bundle.
Leadership voting: nothing is yet set in stone. Wonder who the independent scrutineer is?
Perhaps more lives were saved in the long run as a consequence, especially with WWI coming so soon afterwards.
Douglas Home served as Foreign Sec under Heath, being the last PM to serve under another.
Foot - 32
Kinnock -7
Smith +1
Blair +29
Hague -16
IDS - 9
Howard -15
Cameron -1
Ed M -7
Corbyn -41
Corbyn is a record holder
But quite decent considering some people here think they might drop to sub 100 seats (I maintain they will end up with ~ 200)
For example:
"Angus Robertson was so brimming with the milk of human kindness that he almost turned to cheese on national television. Robertson is a sanctity robot who scours the earth looking for human tragedies he can turned into box-office gold. And he’s found a hum-dinger...."
In the meantime, I would suggest that the following is more predictive.
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/ipsosmoripoliticalmonitorjuly2016-160713102715/95/ipsos-mori-political-monitor-july-2016-8-638.jpg?cb=1468406275
Don't choke on your quinoa, Corbyn fans, but @OwenSmith_MP is basically even money on Betfair to beat him.
At this rate, however, that's Friday.
Are you saying it's not OK to talk in the comments about political betting topics that aren't related to the subject of the article? The US presidential election is the next big market. £16 million at Betfair already. But if I've committed a faux pas I'll shut up
When they price up a labour leadership election market Corbyn will be odds on I would assume.
However, those were different days, different men who lived by different standards. Home, who served at the FCO under Heath, was probably the last of them.
Alot of PBers are involved with these markets.
V nice first post btw. A big push from Jill Stein could indeed be just what Trump needs
@Pong knows his onions.
He'd always been a lucky general but it was one gamble too far.
Most polling companies have the Conservatives and UKIP on 50%+, but Ipsos Mori always have them on c.45% or so.
Edit: But maybe OK because Corbo didn't stand?
The SNP MPs are miserable buggers.
Edited extra bit: Corbyn did a good job of asking serious questions whilst keeping things light.
Good. This appalling display of fawning over Cameron is a disgrace to democracy. An undeserved theatre show of praise for a man whose time in office has achieved virtually nothing of value.
Indeed, the SNP do not "get" that Parliament is theatre and not a legislature and despise that the British people are let down so badly by their elected representatives from the old, mainstream parties. They are right to find it disgusting, it is Britains greatest shame.
Miserable, petty and graceless.
In the spirit of the bet it should be paid out as not standing and applauding, but technically he did
I liked him a lot (on a personal level I still do) it's was just all this Brexit stuff that finished him off in my eye's but doesn't mean I don't recognise what a class act he is in the Commons.
Corbyn had a reasonable go at it, too. Loved the exchange of emails received.
May's PMQs will not be so full of laughs, I suspect.
The autobiography should be interesting. I can see you shelling out on a signed copy, Mr G.
I am by no means a Cameroon but was in tears by the end. A little moment of history and very touching.
The loonbag wing prior to us leaving would make Theresa May's life unbearable
We have swapped a consumate operator and Remainer, for a largely unknown one, not as adept as people wish she was (although ofc in a different street from Leadsom), and, moreover, one who was directly responsible for the failure of policy which led to Brexit in the first place.
Politics, eh?
For most bookmakers, I expect the bets will stand and settle on the next permanent leader after corbyn.
No idea on the other side of the bet.