Manchester, Brum and parts of London yet to report. Leave now 500k ahead - they'll need every bit of it when the big cities come in.
Your Birmingham reporter can tell you it'll be about 50-50 here. Our neighbours are all quite normal but they think we're mad because we have a Remain card in the window.
Why are Boris and Gove letting Farage be the face of this win? Really strange politics.
They are busy forming the next government.
Indeed. Farage can go shuffle off into obscurity as an ex-MEP. PM Johnson/Gove as the case may be can get on with securing a proud and optimistic future.
Former US ambassador to the EU, Richard Morningstar, says on Radio 4 that if the US takes a tough line on Britain, that could discourage other EU members from leaving. Time to end the EU and have a European cooperation that's genuinely independent of the US?
there should never ever ever ever again be one single fixed line phone poll permitted in this country. It should become a prosecutable criminal offence to conduct one.
I said yesterday that even if I was 100% leave I would have told someone remain over the phone. It's not rocket science. It really isn't.
Former US ambassador says on Radio 4 that if the US takes a tough line on Britain, that could discourage other EU members from leaving. Time to end the EU and have a European cooperation that's genuinely independent of the US?
Haha... Brexit as the start of a Gaullist movement?
Farage "we'll have done it without a single bullet being fired" - unfortunate turn of phrase.
The man is scum.
Last night he was saying that he regretted the death of Jo Cox, as if she was collateral damage.
Remain spent far too much time venting their spleen on Farage. This was a daft thing to do. For his supporters, he's their God. They would follow him anywhere. For most Leavers he's completely irrelevant. Trying to equate Leave with Farage just made Remain look idiotic. Going after Boris was the right thing to do, but they picked the wrong people to do it.
Former US ambassador says on Radio 4 that if the US takes a tough line on Britain, that could discourage other EU members from leaving.
The chances of that happening are the square root of zero.
The USA are masters of realpolitik. They didn't want us to leave but we have left. They will swivel faster than you can say "Obama is a lame duck" and push us to the front of the queue.
does anybody think we will actually leave? Won't it just get bogged down in negotiations which will be put to people in an election or another vote and we will end up staying in having given the EU a good kicking which is what most voters probably wanted? Greece or Ireland style?
Manchester, Brum and parts of London yet to report. Leave now 500k ahead - they'll need every bit of it when the big cities come in.
Your Birmingham reporter can tell you it'll be about 50-50 here. Our neighbours are all quite normal but they think we're mad because we have a Remain card in the window.
Former US ambassador says on Radio 4 that if the US takes a tough line on Britain, that could discourage other EU members from leaving. Time to end the EU and have a European cooperation that's genuinely independent of the US?
I wouldn't worry too much - too many people are in a state of shock right now to think correctly - Juncker is presumably in his bunker.
He might finally win a seat in the Commons if UKIP can capitalise on this. A lot of Labour votes are there for the taking. Unfortunately, he's not really the man to do it and there's little strength in depth - and after this result, he'll be unassailable for 4 years.
Farage "we'll have done it without a single bullet being fired" - unfortunate turn of phrase.
The man is scum.
Last night he was saying that he regretted the death of Jo Cox, as if she was collateral damage.
Remain spent far too much time venting their spleen on Farage. This was a daft thing to do. For his supporters, he's their God. They would follow him anywhere. For most Leavers he's completely irrelevant. Trying to equate Leave with Farage just made Remain look idiotic. Going after Boris was the right thing to do, but they picked the wrong people to do it.
Yes, Cameron should have bided his time before challenging Boris to a one-on-one debate. He was too quick to be angered when Boris declared for Leave.
So is Cameron going to call a GE to support his National Stability grand coalition with the Labour right, or declare the national economic emergency too great to even risk that? It's easier to claim a mandate to reverse the decision following a GE, but not completely clear whether most sitting Lab/LD/remain Tories would retain their seats even if the only opponent was UKIP/Tory leave.
Do you now accept the historic error you made in refusing, with extra chortles, a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution?
If only mature politicians had let the people reject earlier forms of integration, we wouldn't be where we are now.
Uh-huh. 2004 was what did it. Of course people have got nothing against Polish people per se. What Britain has a problem with is its government forcing a social experiment on it without so much as a by-your-leave.
there should never ever ever ever again be one single fixed line phone poll permitted in this country. It should become a prosecutable criminal offence to conduct one.
I said yesterday that even if I was 100% leave I would have told someone remain over the phone. It's not rocket science. It really isn't.
The polls broke themselves by weighting by GE turnout when this election was never, ever going to be similar. It's the weighting that's at fault.
does anybody think we will actually leave? Won't it just get bogged down in negotiations which will be put to people in an election or another vote and we will end up staying in having given the EU a good kicking which is what most voters probably wanted? Greece or Ireland style?
Yes definitely. Our membership of the EU will be over before the next General Election, no doubt about that.
We'll probably leave and join the EFTA with some migration restrictions, eg an NHS payment.
Amazing day. Just back from the East Riding count at Beverley Leisure Centre having started at 4am with 15 others delivering leaflets to the biggest council estate in the county. Nothing but positivity. Highlights
1. an elderly daughter holding her even more elderly mum hobbling centimetre by centimetre. It took them 20 minutes (offers of help refused) to go from the entrance to pick up a pencil to vote Leave. Beautiful.
2. Gangs of road workers / builders who never had voted before 'how do I do it?' 'a cross?' 'Voted for you!' coming straight from their shift jumping out of white vans to vote.
3. The pair of 'Sharon and Traceys' waddling down to vote at 9 50pm as 'well gotta bloody vote aint yer this one counts.'
4. Remain had 10 at the count. Only ever saw 2 out campaigning - the rest were students. We had folk who had given up work for weeks and days because they cared.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Britain we are Great Britain again.
there should never ever ever ever again be one single fixed line phone poll permitted in this country. It should become a prosecutable criminal offence to conduct one.
I said yesterday that even if I was 100% leave I would have told someone remain over the phone. It's not rocket science. It really isn't.
The polls broke themselves by weighting by GE turnout when this election was never, ever going to be similar. It's the weighting that's at fault.
Basically, the middle classes pretty much turned out as expected. A large chunk of working class previous non-voters turned out and won it for leave.
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This will take some years.
Remain: 43,000
Leave: 31,000
Turnout: 72%
http://www.reading.gov.uk/EUReferendum
I said yesterday that even if I was 100% leave I would have told someone remain over the phone. It's not rocket science. It really isn't.
Fucked.
Farewell EU. Farewell Scotland. Farewell Gibraltar.
Farewell Cameron.
The USA are masters of realpolitik. They didn't want us to leave but we have left. They will swivel faster than you can say "Obama is a lame duck" and push us to the front of the queue.
Dartford out
Daventry out
Gravesham out
Warwick In
Hambleton out
Swale out
Chesterfield out
Leave 51%
Redbridge are recounting one ballot box, I think.
We'll probably leave and join the EFTA with some migration restrictions, eg an NHS payment.
People will be saying the polls were wrong, how could it be? Yak yak yak.
But were the polls really that wrong?? They were predicting it was on a knife edge for weeks and it all pinned on turn out.
Betting markets just refused, absolutely refused to believe the polls, and one suspect that cost some very rich people a LOT of money.
Its almost as if PB anecdotes beat betfair!
Amazing day. Just back from the East Riding count at Beverley Leisure Centre having started at 4am with 15 others delivering leaflets to the biggest council estate in the county. Nothing but positivity. Highlights
1. an elderly daughter holding her even more elderly mum hobbling centimetre by centimetre. It took them 20 minutes (offers of help refused) to go from the entrance to pick up a pencil to vote Leave. Beautiful.
2. Gangs of road workers / builders who never had voted before 'how do I do it?' 'a cross?' 'Voted for you!' coming straight from their shift jumping out of white vans to vote.
3. The pair of 'Sharon and Traceys' waddling down to vote at 9 50pm as 'well gotta bloody vote aint yer this one counts.'
4. Remain had 10 at the count. Only ever saw 2 out campaigning - the rest were students. We had folk who had given up work for weeks and days because they cared.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Britain we are Great Britain again.
I was spectacularly wrong and ouch. Fair play to all you leavers who kept the faith.
Wow.... shakes head and wanders off in to early dawn for a crazy work day to come.
OMG
S Staff out
Lancs out
Leave 51.3%
LONDON Sutton LEAVE 54%