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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    hunchman said:

    I thought 1992 was good, I thought 2015 was spellbinding, 1997 was just YUCK at the time. This is just EPIC in so many ways. The greatest political night of my life!

    I think you are an insane conspiracy theorist but I don't care on this joyous night. Enjoy!
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    If somebody told me there was some kind of EU mind control virus running rampant in the BBC, I'd believe them. They just can't believe that people don't care for the EU.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Hastings Leave 55% Remain 45%
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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123

    HYUFD said:

    Nottingham Leave 50.8%

    Another place, I wonder if Dave had called this 2-3 weeks ago when all the students were still there.
    Those students will be back at home voting though won't they? Not FPTP so every vote counts.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,994
    SeanT said:

    I'm nearly crying again

    I never dreamed this might happen in my lifetime, much as I wished it.

    I genuinely envy you that feeling. I love this country and just wish I could see this result as a sweet one for its future.

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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,643
    As a Remainer, I didn't want to win this money.

    Remain now at 6.8

    Consider Leave was at 8 this morning (last morning).
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    In 48.4
    Out51.6
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Reigate Leave 50.5 Remain 49.5
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    NI confirmed as 55-45 Remain

    Wales is Leave 54-46 with three to go.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Mid Ulster Remain 60 Leave 40
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    edited June 2016

    HYUFD said:

    Nottingham Leave 50.8%

    Another place, I wonder if Dave had called this 2-3 weeks ago when all the students were still there.
    Those students will be back at home voting though won't they? Not FPTP so every vote counts.
    Perhaps....but it is much easier to whip them up and get them to the polling station if they are all in one place. Many could well be now either lazying in bed, off in Zante (or some other shit hole) or stuck in a muddy field waiting for music to start.
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    edited June 2016

    Possible futrure UKIP leader Woolfe on Sky now that Farage is standing down after def-----oh, hang on...

    Doesn't Leave kill UKIP?
    Pivot towards populist economic policies, be the most extreme on immigration, likely to hoover up that area of votes.

    Mogg suggests election, told you so, near inevitable.
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Pound really nosediving now.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    GBPUSD below 1.37. Its armageddon!
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    Sterling tanking down to $1.36
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Ipswich, wtf are you doing bucking the trend???
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    John_N4John_N4 Posts: 553
    Pound below $1.38.
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    LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    The former country, once known as the United Kingdom has voted to leave the European Union. Now Scotland will vote to dissolve the United Kingdom.

    Result. Plus a couple grand of profit.
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Massive Leave vote in Doncaster - proves Yorkshiremen have some sense.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    S Down Remain 67 Leave 33
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,651
    John_M said:

    Hilary Benn is just terrible. Doubly so when pitted against the Moggster.

    Just nine months back we were lauding his speech on Syria in the Commons...
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Oooh Monmouth went Remain - just. Colour me absolutely poleaxed.
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    scampiscampi Posts: 6
    16/1 to 5/1 ON in about 7 hours. Not very often that happens but nice when it does :)
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    John_M said:

    If somebody told me there was some kind of EU mind control virus running rampant in the BBC, I'd believe them. They just can't believe that people don't care for the EU.

    It's hilarious, I've swapped back to Sky
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Vale of White Horse Remain 57%
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Freggles said:

    RobD said:

    Any chance of getting Farage on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner?

    Trump Force One?
    He's going to have a field day back home...

    "Here's the story, folks. Our special ally has had enough. They saw the danger, and did the right thing. Look at the poster. This is what they were facing... Crooked, Lyin', Low-down Clinton wishes this on you! On us!"
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    FTSE futures down nearly 9% now!!!!!!!!
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    This just seems so right.

    http://tinyurl.com/jtg6kub
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,994
    AndyJS said:

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.

    Genuinely surprised that these results are a surprise.

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Ipswich OUT!!!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Sky talking about Cameron perhaps resigning tomorrow
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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649

    SeanT said:

    I'm nearly crying again

    I never dreamed this might happen in my lifetime, much as I wished it.

    I genuinely envy you that feeling. I love this country and just wish I could see this result as a sweet one for its future.

    Help make it so SO. It's down to all of us now.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,325
    Rushcliffe Remain
    Vale of White Horse Remain
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052

    As a Remainer, I didn't want to win this money.

    Remain now at 6.8

    Consider Leave was at 8 this morning (last morning).

    I cashed out pretty much on evens.
    I'd rather make some money selling some drugs or pimping out some kids rather than on the horrible racism that stoked Brexit that will lead to a decade of poverty.

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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    NW Leicestershire and Erewash voting Leave by about 5 points more than expected.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    John_M said:

    If somebody told me there was some kind of EU mind control virus running rampant in the BBC, I'd believe them. They just can't believe that people don't care for the EU.

    You have to feel for them...they have probably only just about got over that Tory victory. I think it sent a load to require counselling.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,170
    DavidL said:

    The slightly worrying thing is that the Govt. has apparently done no planning for this outcome. Which I'm hoping is as much bollocks as was said by the Govt. during this campaign.

    No, no there will be an emergency budget within the next couple of weeks. Who can doubt it?
    LOL. Osborne will be packing his bags now, he will be out before the markets open tomorrow.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Bolton and Doncaster vote Remain
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850

    Ipswich, wtf are you doing bucking the trend???

    Lol!!!!! Sky vidiprinter wrong! Correction made
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,465
    Remain 40-45 band at 15/1. Might be some value. Leave lead by 9% in England and all but a handful of nearly 200 areas to declare are English. Suspect we're heading for Leave by about 7% rather than 10% though.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,350
    hunchman said:

    FTSE futures down nearly 9% now!!!!!!!!

    Osborne's trust ratings should get a boost when all the apocalyptic predictions come true... :)
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,643
    So, I'm going back into the market with a handful of my cash-out. Remain now at 7. Worth a few quid as not quite over yet.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    Oxon/Bucks/Berks coming in remain.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    Correction - Ipswich OUT.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Reading Remain 58% Leave 42%
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Can't wait to see the shock on my Facebook feed of all those who were for remain. I've remained disciplined and haven't got involved. I think the silence speaks volumes!
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,223
    Rushcliffe votes to Remain by 57.6% to 42.4%.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,051

    So, I'm going back into the market with a handful of my cash-out. Remain now at 7. Worth a few quid as not quite over yet.

    No. It is.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    HYUFD said:

    Bolton and Doncaster vote Remain

    Leave you mean?
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited June 2016
    Tendring - IN 25,210 OUT 57, 447.

    Never heard of the place but well done..! :lol:
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038


    UKIP's purpose (on the right) over - tick.
    UKIP to replace Labour, as the SNP have replaced Labour, in England - tick.

    Won't UKIP have to give itself a new name?

    Actually, now that its met its aim, I'd rather hoped that it'd disappear.

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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    I think that's as close as we will get to Curtice calling it.
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    LennonLennon Posts: 1,740
    AndyJS said:

    Feeling a bit sad for my parents who are both strong Remain supporters.

    Despite voting Leave, I was more anxious about the consequence of a Leave vote than a Remain one - and what it says about the country. All of us involved in politics need to spend far more time listening to people, and far less time shouting at them.

    My view of 'Leave' was always that the potential upside for the country was higher, but the potential downside was also lower - we need to work really hard to make sure that we can have a more united, less divided nation which can work together and move forward with optimism rather than revert to populist division. That means those of us on the Leave side being open and generous to the likes of @TSE and @AlistairMeeks and including them in the conversation if they are able and willing to be a part of it.

    Whatever - it appears to be an exciting time to be involved in politics...
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    pbr2013 said:

    I think that's as close as we will get to Curtice calling it.

    As a terrrrrrrrrible night for the Tories?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    MikeL said:

    Rushcliffe Remain
    Vale of White Horse Remain

    Very wealthy areas.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Eastleigh votes out. Chris Huhne hang your head in shame!
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,958
    Floater said:

    Sky talking about Cameron perhaps resigning tomorrow

    I was a big supporter of Cameron back in the day and I'm sorry it's come to this... But he should have got a serious deal with his renegotiation and the way he has threatened the very people that gave him his job has just been terrible...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,788
    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    RodCrosby said:

    Remain heading for 7 on BF...


    Mr Crosby 5 hours behind the times. :)

    The Times two weeks behind the times.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    The net pollsters are going to enjoy the aftermath.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Rushcliffe and Epsom vote Remain
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Leave over half a million ahead. Be LEAVE.

    Adam Boulton having great trouble holding it all together!
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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Excitible schoolgirls on the trading desks. As ever.
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    RodCrosby said:

    Next target the BBC.

    And no more "Save the World" numpties in parliament.

    Yes. The Foriegn Aid budget will be next.
    Cutting the foreign aid budget whilst trying to fight to retain our global influence might not be the wisest move. We'll need to get our flag on a lot more schools, hospitals, and village toilet blocks.
    Is that tongue in cheek?

    What we've done by leaving the EU will influence the world far more than all the aid we've given in 50 years.
    The toilet blocks perhaps (although they're a common use of foreign aid money in these parts). Perhaps metro systems or airports would be better - we'd have to redefine foreign aid though to include "loans" that never really get paid back.

    Anecdote - here in Vietnam, Japan, Korea, the US, China, Russia, France, Germany and Australia *at least* all come above us in the list of influencers. The only reason we might just scrape the top 10 is because we're in the EU. The government think we are crazy, and they don't like crazy people.

    We'd have to bump our foreign aid budget up to compensate, target it in a way that's focussed on trade and not on helping people, and double the size of our diplomatic service.

    Leaving will influence the world - but not in a way we can control.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Are the MPs regretting that letter to Dave?

    LOL
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,223

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Thought Cotswold would be more than 51% leave
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Downing Street source: "This wasn't meant to happen."

    Lololololol.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,643

    AndyJS said:

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.

    Genuinely surprised that these results are a surprise.

    Why is nottingham a surprise? 'Left behind' territory. Except for the students - who are now at Glasto.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,465
    The biggest ever vote in British history was the 17.39m for Remain in the 1975 referendum. It would be ironic if this ended up being beaten by the vote today. For that matter, it'd be ironic in a different way if it wasn't.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    "This wasn't meant to happen" - Number 10 source to Watt on BBC
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    taffys said:

    Are the MPs regretting that letter to Dave?

    LOL

    I am sure he will do the honourable thing.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    ode of joy to Trump
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,331
    Cotswold 51% Remain
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    £103m on Betfair, btw
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    hunchman said:

    Leave over half a million ahead. Be LEAVE.

    Adam Boulton having great trouble holding it all together!

    The London media bubble don't understand....other than John Harris who is probably upset but also unsurprised.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    Top punning TSE!
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Britain Stronger In Europe headquarters half empty! Lansdale looks quite chipper!
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,994
    pbr2013 said:

    SeanT said:

    I'm nearly crying again

    I never dreamed this might happen in my lifetime, much as I wished it.

    I genuinely envy you that feeling. I love this country and just wish I could see this result as a sweet one for its future.

    Help make it so SO. It's down to all of us now.

    Absolutely. This is where I'm from. This is where my family lives. But it will take more than hard work and wishful thinking. We need a plan.

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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,643
    Nottingham was close.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    edited June 2016
    Chorley Out

    All these Northern town giving Labour the two fingers.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,788
    tlg86 said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
    Yup. He'll announce tomorrow he can't in good faith deliver on the wishes of the electorate, and hand over to someone who can.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,651
    hunchman said:

    Leave over half a million ahead. Be LEAVE.

    Adam Boulton having great trouble holding it all together!

    http://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/725339057669165058/photo/1
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,643
    SeanT said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    Well done, old boy. You lost, but lost honourably. Sleep well, and thankyou.
    GE I reckon.
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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238

    John_M said:

    Hilary Benn is just terrible. Doubly so when pitted against the Moggster.

    Just nine months back we were lauding his speech on Syria in the Commons...
    We??
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,051
    DO NOT CASH OUT (Unless somehow you are on remain), then do red out.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    Thanks TSE. Forgive all my excitement tonight. You fought an honourable campaign.
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    Leave 49% in Hounslow - that's a shock
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,410
    Manchester here we go...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    Congratulations in particular to SouthamObserver who never wavered in calling it for Leave.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    tlg86 said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
    Yup. He'll announce tomorrow he can't in good faith deliver on the wishes of the electorate, and hand over to someone who can.
    Bloody hell!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,170

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    Well done for all your efforts on this site. Agree with your bold tip.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,051

    Leave 49% in Hounslow - that's a shock

    Blimey !
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    Leave 49% in Hounslow - that's a shock

    I know Feltham well and a lot of people there haven't been doing well of recent times I can tell you.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    "Last person left there" - at the "I'm In" party
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Bexley votes Leave.
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    John_N4John_N4 Posts: 553
    Lennon said:

    My view of 'Leave' was always that the potential upside for the country was higher, but the potential downside was also lower - we need to work really hard to make sure that we can have a more united, less divided nation which can work together and move forward with optimism rather than revert to populist division. That means those of us on the Leave side being open and generous to the likes of @TSE and @AlistairMeeks and including them in the conversation if they are able and willing to be a part of it.

    Whatever - it appears to be an exciting time to be involved in politics...

    What should happen is that other aspects of foreign policy also come up for discussion - such as the relationship with the US and membership of NATO. Very unlikely to happen, though.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,994

    AndyJS said:

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.

    Genuinely surprised that these results are a surprise.

    Why is nottingham a surprise? 'Left behind' territory. Except for the students - who are now at Glasto.

    One of those students is upstairs here in his bed. But I agree - I would never have imagined Nottingham voting to Remain.

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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,223
    Did anyone see the Doncaster result? 69:31 to Leave!
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