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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Some key levels that GBPUSD has now approached. A lot of key supports around the 1.35-1.37 level
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,587

    Possible futrure UKIP leader Woolfe on Sky now that Farage is standing down after def-----oh, hang on...

    Doesn't Leave kill UKIP?
    Sadly, no. There will be compromises to be made and, as often happens in revolutions, a split will emerge between the purists and the pragmatists. UKIP is the only party able to champion the purist position ready to accuse the pragmatist (Tories) of betrayal....
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,465
    Sad though I am that it's a Leave, the British and Euro-elites have brought this on themselves. Unless the latter understand that this was not just a 'British' problem, they could well not have a European Union in two years.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,284
    Bexley votes Leave
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    tlg86 said:

    Did anyone see the Doncaster result? 69:31 to Leave!

    Big UKIP target at the GE wasn't it?
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,578
    The Britain Elects spreadsheet is saying Hackney Leave 78%. That can't be right, surely?
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,158

    Leave 49% in Hounslow - that's a shock

    Leave wins Slough as well - lots of Asians are voting Leave.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,336
    Slough Out
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.

    Genuinely surprised that these results are a surprise.

    I thought if Leave won overall it would be by the tiniest of margins.
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    Slough - predicted 62% remain has gone 54% leave. An unexpectedly high proportion of Asian voters must have gone for Brexit
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    slough out, asians outside London for brexit.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    Dr Sarah swung South Hams to Remain. Surprised....
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Pulpstar said:

    Leave 49% in Hounslow - that's a shock

    Blimey !
    Commonwealth vote!
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    tlg86 said:

    Did anyone see the Doncaster result? 69:31 to Leave!

    How in touch do you think the Doncaster North MP is to his voters?
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited June 2016
    Poole. IN 35,741 - OUT 49,707.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Will Straw on ITV looks shell shocked. His father could have taught him a few more things!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,336

    Slough - predicted 62% remain has gone 54% leave. An unexpectedly high proportion of Asian voters must have gone for Brexit

    Asians for Leave don't like being called Little Englanders...
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,552
    BBC still saying that this is going to be very close. In one sense it is but in another its not really. Best bet now must be a million lead for Leave.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,408
    Will we get crossover with the pound and Leave's Betfair price?

    https://twitter.com/Martin1Williams/status/746173388461314052
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    Manchester 60 remain - not enough surely?
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    I do like the smell of sovereignty in the morning.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Bedford 3k majority for leave. Calling Calling OGH.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    Why not?

    Why vote for a racist pro-white-European policy?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Slough Out

    That's a shock.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Manchester under-performs against par spreadsheet. Only 59.7% turnout as well.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,223
    Bexley votes to leave 63:37. Poor Ted!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,071
    edited June 2016
    Manchester 60-40 Remain
    Yorkshire and Humber 60-40 Leave
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Brussels "scared at what they're seeing."

    Lololololol.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,052

    tlg86 said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
    Yup. He'll announce tomorrow he can't in good faith deliver on the wishes of the electorate, and hand over to someone who can.
    Who can govern? Who is there?

    What have we done as a country?

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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,284
    Bedford Leave 52 Remain 48
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    I suppose the BBC news presenters can always get out the black suits they wore on the tragic killing of Jo Cox.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    If Birmingham votes like Manchester, then I do not know !
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    Am watching STV, watching Angus Robertson living his dream scenario of a decisive Scottish IN and a decisive English OUT.

    Less than two years after Indyref. Jaysus, everything is chaos.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Bedtime for me, LEAVE have won
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,336
    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Sad though I am that it's a Leave, the British and Euro-elites have brought this on themselves. Unless the latter understand that this was not just a 'British' problem, they could well not have a European Union in two years.

    Bring it on. We'll build an EU-II with like-minded rationalists...
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    It's over, Leave should be about 1.1 on the exchange.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,606

    hunchman said:

    Leave over half a million ahead. Be LEAVE.

    Adam Boulton having great trouble holding it all together!

    The London media bubble don't understand....other than John Harris who is probably upset but also unsurprised.
    I don't think John Harris lives in the bubble. He lives somewhere deep in S. West. Used to be Hay on Wye.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Sad though I am that it's a Leave, the British and Euro-elites have brought this on themselves. Unless the latter understand that this was not just a 'British' problem, they could well not have a European Union in two years.

    I completely agree. This is a self-inflicted wound, and it can't be put down solely to British churlishness. The federalists over-reached with Lisbon and the wave of euro-skepticism across the continent has followed from that, exacerbated by the Crash.
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Labour Leave said that the Dutch president said a Leave result would trigger a dutch referendum too.

    https://www.facebook.com/LabourLeaveGroup/posts/1377720652243699
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976

    I do like the smell of sovereignty in the morning.

    Yup.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,629
    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/744657376561737728
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Remain 8 on BF...
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    GIN1138 said:

    Floater said:

    Sky talking about Cameron perhaps resigning tomorrow

    I was a big supporter of Cameron back in the day and I'm sorry it's come to this... But he should have got a serious deal with his renegotiation and the way he has threatened the very people that gave him his job has just been terrible...
    :+1:
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Sandpit said:

    Manchester 60-40 Remain
    Yorkshire and Humber 60-40 Leave

    very good for Leave.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
    And a right wing Tory government will do better ?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    Brussels "scared at what they're seeing."

    Lololololol.

    Brussels "scared at what they're seeing."

    Lololololol.

    We've been scared of what they've been doing to us for a very long time! Not now!
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    tyson said:

    tlg86 said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
    Yup. He'll announce tomorrow he can't in good faith deliver on the wishes of the electorate, and hand over to someone who can.
    Who can govern? Who is there?

    What have we done as a country?

    Brussels "scared at what they're seeing."

    Lololololol.

    Well that's just made my life.
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    tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,548
    Worst results for Remain I think: Doncaster, Barnsley, Burnley, Neath Port Talbot, Blaenau Gwent, Cannock. Spot the similarities

    Where's Remain outperformed so far? Lambeth, Haringey, Wandsworth, Hammersmith, Richmond on Thames, East Renfrewshire. Spot the odd one out!

    All against par scores.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    Why not?

    Why vote for a racist pro-white-European policy?
    I've been saying for the past month, watch out for the Commonwealth vote!!!
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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the Barleymont now.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,606
    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 3m3 minutes ago
    Manchester, #EUref result:
    Remain: 60.4% (121,823)
    Leave: 39.6% (79,991)
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2016
    Only 51% Remain in Hounslow, John McDonnell's back yard.

    London not quite going as expected.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,336
    Right well my visit to a university is going to be fun in a few hours...I predict a scene from the Lemmings computer game.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,044
    RodCrosby said:

    Remain 8 on BF...

    Should be 800 !
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Just remember we are only about half way through
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,587

    Tendring - IN 25,210 OUT 57, 447.

    Never heard of the place but well done..! :lol:

    Carswell country on the Essex coast
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,552
    Leave past 9m.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,578
    surbiton said:

    If Birmingham votes like Manchester, then I do not know !

    But turnout very low in Manchester...
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,071

    Brussels "scared at what they're seeing."

    Lololololol.

    No shit, Sherlock!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2016
    edit
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    edited June 2016
    Stanley Johnson on ITV LOL. I wonder if that jumper will get worn after tonight!!!!

    He mentions EU doing well fighting climate change!!!!!!!! Oh come on!!!!!!!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,629
    LEAVE hit 9 milllion
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,336
    I wonder if Queen Liz will be purring?
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
    And a right wing Tory government will do better ?
    No, but at least it will be the SAME system for ALL.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,987
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Nottingham leave!

    Nottingham and Sheffield are the two biggest surprises tonight IMO.

    Genuinely surprised that these results are a surprise.

    I thought if Leave won overall it would be by the tiniest of margins.

    Yep - I guess I did too. But when I think about it town by town in England outside London, Liverpool and Manchester I could never see any area where Leave could be confident of winning.

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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    I cannot believe that we are even this close to potentially getting out of this nightmare. It's just marvelous. If we do go onto Leave, this day will be celebrated long into the future.
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    At what point does the EU say

    "yeah well we see what you are saying but the referendum isn't binding on us. Tell you what have another go in a few months time and if it is for remain then it's binding for ever and ever and ever...ever."

    .......type of response.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,284
    Lewes 52% Remain
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    pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Can I go to bed? It is over?
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    Emperor Mogg is still on the BBC. Such a legend.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    I do like the smell of sovereignty in the morning.

    :love:

    This is beyond my wildest dreams so far - still keeping it on low burn
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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Is Nick Clegg expected to do any interviews this morning? My first ever avatar here.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,044
    The remain victories such as Lewes are tiny outside London - how many London boroughs are left ?
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    John_N4John_N4 Posts: 553
    hunchman said:

    Will Straw on ITV looks shell shocked. His father could have taught him a few more things!

    Maybe he's had some waccy baccy in the taxi up from Glastonbury?
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Harrogate Remain 51%, par.
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    BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408

    I do like the smell of sovereignty in the morning.

    It's going to be a brilliant day today! I'm in total shock. I've wanted this day for decades and only a few hours ago I though we had no chance. i'm over the moon!
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    GBPUSD approaching the 1.3503 February 2009 low
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,158
    Harrogate 49% Leave
    Doncaster 69% Leave

    Shows which voters are decisive.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
    And a right wing Tory government will do better ?
    Pro tip: stop using 'right wing' as an epithet.

    In my industry, Asians are the 'varsity. Why wouldn't we want them? Assuming you're left of centre, you've got to stop being one-eyed about this.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Blimey - its almost 4am, I haven't noticed the last three hours at all!
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Southern Tory shires and the Home counties are not going as much Leave as was expected. So who knows ?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Portsmouth 58% leave. Ahoy Sir on the boat to leave the EU!!!!!!!!
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    pbr2013 said:

    Can I go to bed? It is over?

    Some people are on the pitch ... They think it's all over ...
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,029
    Wonder if I should go to bed now, so I can be up for the news in the morning. Wouldn't want to miss the historic drive to the palace!
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    I'm sorry, but Wales is just ASTOUNDING
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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    I'd pay quite a bit of money to catch a glimpse of George Osborne's face right now. What a delight that would be.
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    PlatoSaid said:

    I do like the smell of sovereignty in the morning.

    :love:

    This is beyond my wildest dreams so far - still keeping it on low burn
    After 40-50 years (since the days of the Suez Crisis, End of Empire, Sick Man of Europe, Managed Decline, etc etc) Great Britain is back. A great power returns to the scene. The world will take notice.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    PlatoSaid said:

    Blimey - its almost 4am, I haven't noticed the last three hours at all!

    Its gone like a blur. Best 3 hours of your life Plato?!!!!!
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,316

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
    And a right wing Tory government will do better ?
    No, but at least it will be the SAME system for ALL.
    It won't though. There will be exceptions unless you're proposing to undo the peace process?
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Pound now at 1.36 to the dollar - probably won't be going to Disneyworld this year.

    Trump can buy St Andrews for 10% less than he could 6 hours ago.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Manchester, Brum and parts of London yet to report. Leave now 500k ahead - they'll need every bit of it when the big cities come in.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,606
    Owen Jones @OwenJones84
    The people have spoken. That's democracy. And now we have to make this work, and defend all and any rights that are under threat.


    "The people have voted... the bastards"
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    tyson said:

    tlg86 said:

    I'm calling it a night, Leave have won this. Congratulations

    My bold tip, we're going to get either a general election or another EU related referendum within 12 months, or possibly both

    What about Dave - is he done?
    Yup. He'll announce tomorrow he can't in good faith deliver on the wishes of the electorate, and hand over to someone who can.
    Who can govern? Who is there?

    What have we done as a country?

    Erm... I thought you lived in Italy ....
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    John_M said:

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Slough votes OUT. Hounslow barely IN. Asian voters voting OUT. Why ?

    They had an asian guy on Sky earlier and he said Asians thought the EU discriminated against them, with unfair immigration policies.
    And a right wing Tory government will do better ?
    Pro tip: stop using 'right wing' as an epithet.

    In my industry, Asians are the 'varsity. Why wouldn't we want them? Assuming you're left of centre, you've got to stop being one-eyed about this.
    Tory governments are by definition right wing.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,284
    Teignbridge Leave 54% Remain 46%
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    John_N4 said:

    hunchman said:

    Will Straw on ITV looks shell shocked. His father could have taught him a few more things!

    Maybe he's had some waccy baccy in the taxi up from Glastonbury?
    An end to political nepotism is also on the "to do" list...
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038
    What is it with left-wingers shooting themselves in the foot? Trying to get Sanders nominated in the US. Succeeding in making Old King Islington Labour leader in the UK. These are Liberal coups. This weekend might be Labour's last chance before it slides into irrelevance, but is there anyone strong enough left to wrestle Corbyn into submission?
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Birds just starting to tweet outside my window.

    A bright new dawn is it not?!!
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