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  • pbr2013
    pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Nerves fraying. "Labour councillor in Oxford arrested and taken home by police"
  • John_M
    John_M Posts: 7,503
    Vince is on. This should be good.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    and 1.41 gone!!!!!
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    Mortimer said:

    KentRising said:

    What are the par scores for:

    Southend
    Bury
    Harlow

    How much better is Leave doing than forecast?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hCtN3IY76azcr_6OiFPvZI0eXi_8JJqxT7d8vNhW2Do/edit#gid=0

    Somewhere between a few and more.
    Remain was 10% below where they should be for Harlow. (31 v 41)
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LxLSzzrplw
  • Thrak
    Thrak Posts: 494
    Sterling in freefall at the moment.
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    Scotland voting Remain, UK voting Leave. Indyref2 is a dead cert.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,077
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Wexit.

    England and Wales Cricket Team, England and Wales independent nation.

    Party like it's 1536 :)
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    SandyRentool said:

    66% Leave in Redcar

    Too late to nationalise steel!
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Vince!!!!!!!
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    rcs1000 said:

    I think I'll be going to bed soon.

    Me too. What time does WWIII start?

    Need to set my alarm.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    The_Woodpecker said:

    The_Woodpecker said:

    Cashed out. +£5oo remain, +£1500 leave. Really think Remain might whisker this. Too stressful!

    OK Bury and Swansea results are changing my mind.
    Swansea had above average UKIP results last year, Bury fractionally above
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    TSE - surely Peter Kellner's perceptive tweet should be added to the header...! :lol:

    Peter Kellner @PeterKellner1

    Looking much closer now; Remain victory no longer certain
    1:47 AM - 24 Jun 2016
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,459
    John_M said:

    Portsmouth rumoured 57% leave, Southhampton 60% leave. Woah.

    Would expect Portsmouth to be higher for Leave - can't imagine talk of an EU Armed Forces going down well....
  • Cookie
    Cookie Posts: 15,685
    Bury 54% Leave - Andy's par figure was 50.46% Remain,
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    SouthamObserver said:

    brokenwheel said:

    RealBritain said:

    Extremely low immigration in most of these parts of wales. This needs a masterclass in explanation, and is not nearly as simple as many on the Leave side might like to suggest.

    I suggest the Leave side understand these voters more than the establishment...

    Which is why Tory Leavers have cheered on policy after policy that has done significant harm to working class voters.

    Least bad option though eh?
  • tpfkar
    tpfkar Posts: 1,578
    AndyJS said:

    Bury is a horrible result for Remain. I thought they would narrowly carry it.

    As did I. That's a very poor sign for the Manchester area results to come.

    Harlow very disappointing for remain as well.
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.

    Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.

    I am reminded of Yeats wonderful quote after Irish independence

    'A terrible beauty is born...'
  • maaarsh
    maaarsh Posts: 3,602
    How is this site going to cope now the polling industry is dead?
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    SeanT said:

    This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.

    Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.

    It is, frankly, off the scale.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    England - current percentages:

    Remain 40%
    Leave 60%
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Vince is right, project fear rolled out way too often by "Call me Dave".
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    KentRising said:

    What are the par scores for:

    Southend
    Bury
    Harlow

    How much better is Leave doing than forecast?

    Harlow was meant to be 63% - 68% achieved.

    Brentwood similar I think
  • marke09
    marke09 Posts: 926
    Welsh Labour blaming timing of referendum just weeks after Assembly elections
    Plaid Cymru blaming austerity
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Wellingborough exceeds Leave expectations.
  • pbr2013
    pbr2013 Posts: 649
    edited June 2016
    AndyJS said:

    England - current percentages:

    Remain 40%
    Leave 60%

    Sheesh.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Dramatic further plunge in £ and out-of-hours FTSE
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
    The ordinary punters who voted for Brexit do not share the same vision as Johnson, Gove and Patel. This will quickly spin out of political control.
  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    Philip_Thompson said:

    FPT

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Wanderer said:

    Well, this is getting bizarre. We are all pretty much ready to call it for Leave and it's still odds-against.

    How many people have in hindsight here talked about how slow the market was to react away from No Overall Majority last year and how much they made based on that?

    If I gambled I'd be betting big on Leave right now, it should be odds-on.
    I keep saying betting odds are a lagging indicator. New money has to overcome the weight of previous bets.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Labour blaming SNP for low turnout in Scotland. You couldn't make this up!
  • RealBritain
    RealBritain Posts: 255
    PlatoSaid said:

    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
    No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    Chameleon said:

    Mortimer said:

    KentRising said:

    What are the par scores for:

    Southend
    Bury
    Harlow

    How much better is Leave doing than forecast?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hCtN3IY76azcr_6OiFPvZI0eXi_8JJqxT7d8vNhW2Do/edit#gid=0

    Somewhere between a few and more.
    Remain was 10% below where they should be for Harlow. (31 v 41)
    Quite right - sorry, I didn't catch the Harlow result...
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    AndyJS said:

    England - current percentages:

    Remain 40%
    Leave 60%

    It'll be 52:48 to Leave, because there are the big Remain areas of London still to go. I would be very surprised if it was more than 1% either way out from that forecast now.
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    Casino_Royale said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think I'll be going to bed soon.

    Me too. What time does WWIII start?

    Need to set my alarm.
    I believe 12noon Berlin time, 11am Greenwich time, is traditional.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,864
    taffys said:

    This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.

    Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.

    I am reminded of Yeats wonderful quote after Irish independence

    'A terrible beauty is born...'

    Or, talking of Yeats:

    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,726
    The polling company who had a 10% Remain win....well I think they are probably hot footing to the nearest airport as we speak.
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    edited June 2016
    Euro up V pound - meeting resistance at 0.80
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    taffys said:

    This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.

    Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.

    I am reminded of Yeats wonderful quote after Irish independence

    'A terrible beauty is born...'

    A few weeks ago, after deciding to vote Leave - I felt my first twang of revolutionary zeal. This People vs The Establishment is most amusing.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    Cable saying no need for referendum - the public seems to disagree.

    Hoey blaming Cameron's decision to call Leavers Racist and Stupid.
  • pbr2013
    pbr2013 Posts: 649
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    I had 55/45 in your competition.
  • RochdalePioneers
    RochdalePioneers Posts: 30,611
    At what time today does David Cameron announce his intention to resign?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Nice chart for tracking sterling:

    https://www.dailyfx.com/gbp-usd

  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/746133426336587776
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    F'king Betfair wont let me deposit any more !!!!!!
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    IanB2 said:

    Dramatic further plunge in £ and out-of-hours FTSE

    Short covering rally to 1.42 level
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Sky: Labour blaming the SNP
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    Labour blaming Snp lacklustre campaign. Err Jeremy Corbyn anyone?
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    FTSE now below 6000 - was 6400 just this afternoon
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    maaarsh said:

    How is this site going to cope now the polling industry is dead?

    Pollsters like ICM and TNS will be saying their are full of life at the moment.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    Surely it can't be that big? Surely?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    How could the polls get it so wrong again? Jesus.
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    maaarsh said:

    How is this site going to cope now the polling industry is dead?

    Examine Scottish subsamples within a week?
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    ''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''

    Stunning grace under fire.

    I salute you sir!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    maaarsh said:

    How is this site going to cope now the polling industry is dead?

    Pollsters like ICM and TNS will be saying their are full of life at the moment.
    ICM is the gold standard :)
  • John_M
    John_M Posts: 7,503
    RealBritain said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
    No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
    The ordinary working person has (in their view) been losing for a long time now. Hence, the result looking the way it is.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,726
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    If it ends up like that, Dave and George are toast.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,864
    Cable just about conceded then, or have I had one too many sherbets?

  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    Fook me sideways.
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    RealBritain said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
    No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
    Twas ever thus.
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
    Cameron's legacy.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    Cookie said:

    Bury 54% Leave - Andy's par figure was 50.46% Remain,

    There's a lot of ABs in Prestwich as well.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.

    I'm afraid they have to. Cameron, Osborne and co are finished and need to go asap.

  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    The polling company who had a 10% Remain win....well I think they are probably hot footing to the nearest airport as we speak.

    UnPopulus?
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    PlatoSaid said:

    maaarsh said:

    How is this site going to cope now the polling industry is dead?

    Examine Scottish subsamples within a week?
    LOL!!!!!!!!!
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,726
    OUT said:

    Labour blaming Snp lacklustre campaign. Err Jeremy Corbyn anyone?

    Always somebodies else fault....
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Now Leave 52% Remain 48%
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    PlatoSaid said:

    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
    The Establishment is very good at looking after itself and always has been. That is how they have survived so long. They will adjust quickly. though the shocks elsewhere will be profound.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    edited June 2016
    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    Surely it can't be that big? Surely?
    Two big stonking Remain beasts to come: Brum and London.
  • John_M
    John_M Posts: 7,503
    taffys said:

    ''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''

    Stunning grace under fire.

    I salute you sir!

    Adding that to my 'Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat' scrapbook :D
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    IanB2 said:

    FTSE now below 6000 - was 6400 just this afternoon

    Can track that on here:

    http://www.ig.com/uk/ig-indices/ftse-100
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    hunchman said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dramatic further plunge in £ and out-of-hours FTSE

    Short covering rally to 1.42 level
    Sell sell sell !
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited June 2016
    AndyJS said:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/746133426336587776

    Except Mr Hodges is one of the people who were saying Labour should've been more enthusiastically pro-EU.

    This referendum has shown the Labour "moderates" are just as out of touch with public opinion as the Corbyn wing.
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    IanB2 said:

    FTSE now below 6000 - was 6400 just this afternoon

    It's going to go a lot lower than that by next week.

    What happened to the those Tories who were pro business? Didn't realise they were nihilistic notrights.
  • Luckyguy1983
    Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,093
    taffys said:

    ''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''

    Stunning grace under fire.

    I salute you sir!

    Half Baked Hobby Horse needs to become an alias like Vapid Bilge. Alastair really is the comedic gift that keeps giving.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    RochdalePioneers said:

    At what time today does David Cameron announce his intention to resign?

    He really shouldn't. That would be the equivalent of Ed Miliband walking out after the 2015 election, only in this case instead of the Labour Party being left to fall into chaos, he would be leaving the country.

    Cameron caused this mess by misjudging the whole situation. The stakes are too high for him to walk away now and abdicate responsibility.
  • GarethoftheVale2
    GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,350
    St Helens expected to be 50/50 in Andy's spreadsheet 58% for leave
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    RealBritain said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    RealBritain said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
    What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
    No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.

    Of course. The establishment is still in charge. It'll just be a different part of it.

  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited June 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Vince is right, project fear rolled out way too often by "Call me Dave".

    It started bad with Obama and went downhill from there...

    These two posh boys (Cameron and Osborne) threatening their own citizens was bad enough but to then get the leaders of other nations to do it as well....
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    This People vs The Establishment is most amusing.

    The implications are huge. The global establishment threw everything....everything at this Ms Plato.

    And it looks like they are being beaten.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    St Helens votes Leave
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Worth saying that the Euro is falling against the dollar, though not quite as much as the pound.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    AlastairMeeks said:

    FPT @CasinoRoyale I am entirely calm. My view of Leave's campaign is well-settled and has been well-advertised. It is not going to change.

    It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.

    I will contact you privately in the coming days.
  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    SeanT said:

    This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.

    Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.

    Not necessarily. It's equivalent to POTUS2004 or Ireland2008. Polls have error ranges, and referendum polls have bigger error ranges. Betting odds are a lagging indicator. People update existing models as results comes in instead of abandoning and recalculating from scratch. Whether it's UK2010 or UK2015 or UK2016, people make the same mistakes over and over again and the clever analyst notes this.

  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Thrasher predicting 56% LEAVE!
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    Sky News prediction for UK vote: LEAVE 56%
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    I've been told Leave have Newham.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Sky predicting 56:44 overall result. Don't think its that much personally.
  • pbr2013
    pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    taffys said:

    ''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''

    Stunning grace under fire.

    I salute you sir!

    Half Baked Hobby Horse needs to become an alias like Vapid Bilge. Alastair really is the comedic gift that keeps giving.
    Some real sourpusses round here tonight.
  • The_Woodpecker
    The_Woodpecker Posts: 506
    SouthamObserver said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Bob__Sykes said:

    We're fucked. All of us.

    Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.

    It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.

    Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.

    I'm afraid they have to. Cameron, Osborne and co are finished and need to go asap.

    Well done SO - you got a prediction right at last!
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @graemewearden: Futures market predicting a massive selloff -- FTSE 100 being called down 6% https://t.co/QhtxxuhyCk
  • marke09
    marke09 Posts: 926
    Thrasher calling it 44 - 56 Leave
  • Concanvasser
    Concanvasser Posts: 191
    70% turn out in Pompey. Large southern urban area Going Leave .
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    Thrasher says 56:44 to Leave. Don't believe that but if it is even close our polling companies really have to find something else to do.
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Someone who has been working for Remain has texted me

    'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'

    If it ends up like that, Dave and George are toast.
    Well we now know that online polling is better than phone polls - just like 2015! Oh wait....
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Some (eg Meeks but also others) have been suggesting that a Leave win shows our nation at its worst. That it shows us to be negative, small minded etc. The opposite is true. It shows us at our best, proud, positive and upbeat.

    The Remain campaign has run on pure fear and (self-)loathing. Some will today have voted Remain due to that fear, but the fact that a majority of the nation seems to have been confident enough in ourselves, confident enough in our ability, confident enough in our future to feel able to vote Leave. It makes me proud to be British.

    My grandparents generation weren't cowed by the blitz. We haven't been cowed by Fear.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Just wondering what Andrew Cooper and his fantasy Populus is thinking right now..
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    Is her Maj purring?
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