Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
Extremely low immigration in most of these parts of wales. This needs a masterclass in explanation, and is not nearly as simple as many on the Leave side might like to suggest.
I suggest the Leave side understand these voters more than the establishment...
Which is why Tory Leavers have cheered on policy after policy that has done significant harm to working class voters.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
The ordinary punters who voted for Brexit do not share the same vision as Johnson, Gove and Patel. This will quickly spin out of political control.
Well, this is getting bizarre. We are all pretty much ready to call it for Leave and it's still odds-against.
How many people have in hindsight here talked about how slow the market was to react away from No Overall Majority last year and how much they made based on that?
If I gambled I'd be betting big on Leave right now, it should be odds-on.
I keep saying betting odds are a lagging indicator. New money has to overcome the weight of previous bets.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
It'll be 52:48 to Leave, because there are the big Remain areas of London still to go. I would be very surprised if it was more than 1% either way out from that forecast now.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
The ordinary working person has (in their view) been losing for a long time now. Hence, the result looking the way it is.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
I'm afraid they have to. Cameron, Osborne and co are finished and need to go asap.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
The Establishment is very good at looking after itself and always has been. That is how they have survived so long. They will adjust quickly. though the shocks elsewhere will be profound.
''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''
Stunning grace under fire.
I salute you sir!
Adding that to my 'Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat' scrapbook
At what time today does David Cameron announce his intention to resign?
He really shouldn't. That would be the equivalent of Ed Miliband walking out after the 2015 election, only in this case instead of the Labour Party being left to fall into chaos, he would be leaving the country.
Cameron caused this mess by misjudging the whole situation. The stakes are too high for him to walk away now and abdicate responsibility.
''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''
Stunning grace under fire.
I salute you sir!
Half Baked Hobby Horse needs to become an alias like Vapid Bilge. Alastair really is the comedic gift that keeps giving.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
From my point of view it's not looking good for the economy, for society and cohesion, or the future of the UK as a unitary state. Still, the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, and it will still be summer.
What total piffle - you mean The Establishment are going to lose.
No, I think the ordinary working person will lose.
Of course. The establishment is still in charge. It'll just be a different part of it.
Vince is right, project fear rolled out way too often by "Call me Dave".
It started bad with Obama and went downhill from there...
These two posh boys (Cameron and Osborne) threatening their own citizens was bad enough but to then get the leaders of other nations to do it as well....
This is the single most incredible electoral result of my lifetime.
Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.
Not necessarily. It's equivalent to POTUS2004 or Ireland2008. Polls have error ranges, and referendum polls have bigger error ranges. Betting odds are a lagging indicator. People update existing models as results comes in instead of abandoning and recalculating from scratch. Whether it's UK2010 or UK2015 or UK2016, people make the same mistakes over and over again and the clever analyst notes this.
FPT @CasinoRoyale I am entirely calm. My view of Leave's campaign is well-settled and has been well-advertised. It is not going to change.
It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.
''It is a historical low point for this country, made worse by the evident cluelessness as to what Leave actually want to do. There is nothing to discuss: it is a moral stain on the nation and I will have no part in pursuing this ugly and half-baked hobby horse.''
Stunning grace under fire.
I salute you sir!
Half Baked Hobby Horse needs to become an alias like Vapid Bilge. Alastair really is the comedic gift that keeps giving.
Quite exciting though, even though many of us will lose our jobs and homes.
It is exciting. Then you remember Johnson, Gove, Patel and co are going to takeover, and millions of ordinary punters are looking at significant damage to their livelihoods, and it becomes a lot less attractive.
Unfortunately I think it's worse than that. It was completely clear from the campaign that they are not ready to take over, and haven't got the least clue even about the economic danger, let alone about a plan for dealing with it.
I'm afraid they have to. Cameron, Osborne and co are finished and need to go asap.
Well done SO - you got a prediction right at last!
Some (eg Meeks but also others) have been suggesting that a Leave win shows our nation at its worst. That it shows us to be negative, small minded etc. The opposite is true. It shows us at our best, proud, positive and upbeat.
The Remain campaign has run on pure fear and (self-)loathing. Some will today have voted Remain due to that fear, but the fact that a majority of the nation seems to have been confident enough in ourselves, confident enough in our ability, confident enough in our future to feel able to vote Leave. It makes me proud to be British.
My grandparents generation weren't cowed by the blitz. We haven't been cowed by Fear.
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Need to set my alarm.
Peter Kellner @PeterKellner1
Looking much closer now; Remain victory no longer certain
1:47 AM - 24 Jun 2016
Harlow very disappointing for remain as well.
Also the most pleasing, and the most scary.
I am reminded of Yeats wonderful quote after Irish independence
'A terrible beauty is born...'
Remain 40%
Leave 60%
Brentwood similar I think
Plaid Cymru blaming austerity
'Result is going to be Leave 54 Remain 46'
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Hoey blaming Cameron's decision to call Leavers Racist and Stupid.
https://www.dailyfx.com/gbp-usd
Stunning grace under fire.
I salute you sir!
http://www.ig.com/uk/ig-indices/ftse-100
This referendum has shown the Labour "moderates" are just as out of touch with public opinion as the Corbyn wing.
What happened to the those Tories who were pro business? Didn't realise they were nihilistic notrights.
Cameron caused this mess by misjudging the whole situation. The stakes are too high for him to walk away now and abdicate responsibility.
These two posh boys (Cameron and Osborne) threatening their own citizens was bad enough but to then get the leaders of other nations to do it as well....
The implications are huge. The global establishment threw everything....everything at this Ms Plato.
And it looks like they are being beaten.
The Remain campaign has run on pure fear and (self-)loathing. Some will today have voted Remain due to that fear, but the fact that a majority of the nation seems to have been confident enough in ourselves, confident enough in our ability, confident enough in our future to feel able to vote Leave. It makes me proud to be British.
My grandparents generation weren't cowed by the blitz. We haven't been cowed by Fear.