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  • RealBritain
    RealBritain Posts: 255
    A week or so ago a poster was roundly mocked for suggesting the possibility of London secession-type scenario at some point in the future. If those huge figures for London either swing it for Leave or are ignored in a bigger Leave win, it may appear much less crazy then it does now in the future, as I mentioned.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Have switched over to Sky because of it.
  • OUT
    OUT Posts: 569
    williamglenn said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    All this talk of above and below par sounds like we are talking about a round of golf....

    We'll have the Leave albatrosses hung around our necks for a long time.
    Fore!
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    hunchman said:

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wasn't expecting those to be as good as that for leave.

    Believe. Be LEAVE.
    Portsmouth expected to lean leave Southampton to lean Remain - on Andy's Spreadsheet.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.
  • RealBritain
    RealBritain Posts: 255
    swing it for remain, I meant ! Coffee again.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    On break - leave look they've won then?
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    CornishBlue said:

    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Switched over to Sky.
    Al "we shouldn't have had a referendum"
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    More awkward twists and contortions in Campbell's face than an anaconda!
  • eek
    eek Posts: 30,708
    Gallowgate said:

    Cameron's legacy!

    All political careers end in failure. This is just a bigger failure than other recent ones
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    another_richard said:

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Meeks will be fine. I've seen his book ;)

    Backing leave !
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    DanSmith said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That would be extraordinary.
    10 % of Southampton is Polish, there is a significant resentment.

  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 78
    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    I'm calling this for leave.
  • Gallowgate
    Gallowgate Posts: 20,709
    This just shows that FPTP is awful. As soon as people feel that their vote actually means something, they vote in droves.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Turnout only 56% in Glasgow.
  • corporeal
    corporeal Posts: 2,549
    Somehow Tim Montgomerie irritates me more than Campbell.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,731
    another_richard said:

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Isn't he decamping to Hungary is Leave win?
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    "Don't let the people decide".....
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Ali Campbell looks grim...
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    GBPUSD calm in the 1.4550's..........waiting for more results.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Casino_Royale said:

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Southampton, Sheffield, Leicester, and Nottingham are my bellwethers.

    They all go Leave, Leave have a clear win.
    Big asks for Leave, those.
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    Nothing happening Pound: Euro AFAICS
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation

    Googling cheap flights to Hungary!
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised by all this.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    another_richard said:

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Isn't he decamping to Hungary is Leave win?
    Just for the weekend :) Also if remain win too.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    For those of us with significant share portfolios I suggest you hedge now on Betfair Leave.
  • oldpolitics
    oldpolitics Posts: 455
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    Can I have their number? I'd like to buy all the pounds they have. Just to be clear, I didn't say I wanted to buy a lot of pounds, I said I wanted to buy all the pounds they have.
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    LordWakefield said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    HYUFD said:

    Isles of Scilly votes Remain

    803 Remain 621 Leave

    Get a huge amount of EU aid
    You mean UK taxpayers money.
    There is no such thing as "EU money". There is only taxpayers' money!
    And we might be getting it all back soon!
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    numbertwelve said:

    Yes, this is definitely the Labour line. It's about Cameron not Brussels.

    which would show utter contempt for british people. Typical bloody islington.

    when will they listen and learn? Immigration was always always always the key to this. Switch off from 'working people' at your peril
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,731
    edited June 2016
    How Campbell has the audacity to go on media I have no idea.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    PlatoSaid said:

    CornishBlue said:

    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Switched over to Sky.
    Al "we shouldn't have had a referendum"
    Urgh.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pulpstar said:

    another_richard said:

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Meeks will be fine. I've seen his book ;)

    Backing leave !
    my book is doing well too, though sweating on turnout, I went low but Scotland may bring that home.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    weejonnie said:

    hunchman said:

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wasn't expecting those to be as good as that for leave.

    Believe. Be LEAVE.
    Portsmouth expected to lean leave Southampton to lean Remain - on Andy's Spreadsheet.
    Portsmouth is no surprise, but Soton would be huge.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    hunchman said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That's what I thought with the big Polish community here.
    Almost all ineligible to vote
  • RepublicanTory
    RepublicanTory Posts: 563
    BBC reporters and Labour forming circular firing squad :)
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Kettering

    39% Remain
    61% Leave
  • DearPB
    DearPB Posts: 439
    There was a time that I thought leaving would at least be exciting; I don't feel excited...
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Ludicrous.
  • hunchman
    hunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Charles said:

    John Curtis saying London t/o 2-3% below expectations

    Wandsworth 72% Remain apparently
  • dyedwoolie
    dyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    We've broken the world. Little England?!
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    The same old labour lines arent working anymore, and they werent workng snyway.
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Eagles is pitiful. She really is.
  • Floater
    Floater Posts: 14,207
    Pulpstar said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Artist said:

    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.

    Swindon only par. But otherwise yes.
    Newham the only radically more pro-Remain than expected result.
    Yes, and we're beginning to get a reasonable spread of different types of seat. It's hard to see Remain winning from here.
    It's the likes of Pat the work cleaner that will win this for "leave".
    And people like my son, never voted in his life before today.

    PS Kettering OUT
  • Theuniondivvie
    Theuniondivvie Posts: 44,327
    Danny565 said:

    On another note, I'm enjoying the subplot of the obvious tension between Dimbleby and Curtice.

    Sexual?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Kettering 62% out
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Kettering 61% out.
  • Lowlander
    Lowlander Posts: 941
    Miliband using the words "even if its a Remain result". I think the outcome is pretty clear. Markets still seem behind the curve
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    Kettering 61-39 for Leave.

    Was 57-43 on the spreadsheet
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,731
    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Prat
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 78
    Ha! Angela Eagle almost reflexively blamed Margaret Thatcher!
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Fancy a bet on that? Tell you what, lets bet on 20% to make it even vaguely meaningful.
  • MTimT
    MTimT Posts: 7,034
    PlatoSaid said:

    Eagles is pitiful. She really is.

    She nearly blamed Margaret Thatcher just there
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Are we due some more results soon?
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    LOL

    Eagles "Labour voters didn't like Margar...the Tories"

    :lol:
  • DanSmith
    DanSmith Posts: 1,215
    16.4m votes needed to win.
  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    bigjohnowls said:

    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES

    I will never understand why so many of the Labour high command seem to think supporting the EU should be one of their core principles.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    bigjohnowls said:

    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES

    Thats just the 4 outers in my house
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,731
    edited June 2016
    hunchman said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That's what I thought with the big Polish community here.
    Maybe that is why the high Leave vote? I can see Crewe going massively leave for a similar reason. Harsh on the Poles who 99.9% have done nothing wrong, but some WWC towns have seen massive levels of immigration and that hasn't gone down well.
  • GideonWise
    GideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,728
    Starfall said:

    Ha! Angela Eagle almost reflexively blamed Margaret Thatcher!

    Noticed that. Hilarious.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    another_richard said:

    For those of us with significant share portfolios I suggest you hedge now on Betfair Leave.

    I flogged most of mine in April. I kept a few with mostly overseas assets.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Buy sterling in the morning if that happens then, that's insane.
  • John_M
    John_M Posts: 7,503
    JennyFreeman said:

    numbertwelve said:

    Yes, this is definitely the Labour line. It's about Cameron not Brussels.

    which would show utter contempt for british people. Typical bloody islington.

    when will they listen and learn? Immigration was always always always the key to this. Switch off from 'working people' at your peril
    You can see the BBC folks thinking "omg, racists, racists everywhere, millions of 'em!"
  • LucyJones
    LucyJones Posts: 651
    tlg86 said:

    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.

    That has crossed my mind. I have to take my elder daughter to the House of Lords tomorrow and I did wonder if we might see some democracy-loving SJW types out and about if Leave does this.

  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    edited June 2016
    Angela Eagle thisclose to mentioning Thatcher. Can't get away from party politics and actually address the issues regarding Europe.

    Campbell firstly saying the result isn't about the EU and then saying that it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

    Labour really haven't got a clue, have they?
  • JennyFreeman
    JennyFreeman Posts: 488
    hunchman said:

    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
    if cameron and osborne aren't sulking they'd be wise to shut the markets on friday as far as thats possible. BoE to shore things up too.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Mortimer said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
    Never have I more regretted being a fluent French speaker.
  • not_on_fire
    not_on_fire Posts: 4,451
    Can the British polling industry survive this?
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @juliahobsbawm: The vibe amongst Remainers is incredulous and anxious right now. Leavers are keeping quiet.
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    SouthamObserver said:

    I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised by all this.

    I have to say you are one of the few people who has been saying consistently that Leave would win.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    Labour clinging to a bit more than half their vote might have stayed with us.

    A bit more than HALF
  • Y0kel
    Y0kel Posts: 2,307
    Are Labour out of touch?

    Exhibit A: Angela Eagle.
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    PlatoSaid said:

    LOL

    Eagles "Labour voters didn't like Margar...the Tories"

    :lol:

    someone tell them she died.
  • Chris_A
    Chris_A Posts: 1,237
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
    Not often I agree with Campbell but he's right.
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    AndyJS said:

    Kettering

    39% Remain
    61% Leave

    Any chance of a comparison with your par spreddie for each one?
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    LucyJones said:

    tlg86 said:

    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.

    That has crossed my mind. I have to take my elder daughter to the House of Lords tomorrow and I did wonder if we might see some democracy-loving SJW types out and about if Leave does this.

    Nah, it's the likes of TSE you want to be worried about!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Mortimer said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
    Never have I more regretted being a fluent French speaker.
    Would you say you have a good french tongue? *innocent face*
  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 44
    why is leave odds against? In seems to be underperforming where it needs to be to get over the line in every declaration to date?
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Gallowgate said:

    This just shows that FPTP is awful. As soon as people feel that their vote actually means something, they vote in droves.

    Yep - if we genuinely want to make working class votes count we need to change our electoral system.

  • viewcode
    viewcode Posts: 25,202
    hunchman said:

    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
    A forty percent fall from 1GBP=1.4USD is 1GBP=0.85USD. That is the worse it has ever been post WW2
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    Eagle just wants to be somewhere else.

    Beam me up scotty
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    not_on_fire said:

    Can the British polling industry survive this?

    Some of them can. TNS looking like the gold standard
  • Tim_B
    Tim_B Posts: 7,669
    GideonWise said:

    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.

    Has she ever been to a hairdresser? Also her top doesn't do her complexion any favors.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 78
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
    Yes. Tim Montgomerie was all over him.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Sterling won't fall 40% but it might fall 20%.

    It's the rise in unemployment over the next year which is the key statistic to watch, of course. It will be quite significant.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQC
    AramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    Would like to be a fly on the wall in Guardian HQ tomorrow. Should have listened to John Harris...
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited June 2016
    not_on_fire said:

    Can the British polling industry survive this?

    TNS, Opinium, ICM all had Leave ahead in their final polls
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Gravitation said:

    Kettering 61-39 for Leave.

    Was 57-43 on the spreadsheet

    Another better than expected result for Leave.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    How is Remain still 1.5?
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Y0kel said:

    Are Labour out of touch?

    Exhibit A: Angela Eagle.

    Time for a clearout of Blairites
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Kettering out
  • CornishBlue
    CornishBlue Posts: 840
    GideonWise said:

    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.

    "Bless" crossed my lips..
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Big Leave vote from Kettering. 61% - 39%,
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