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  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    A week or so ago a poster was roundly mocked for suggesting the possibility of London secession-type scenario at some point in the future. If those huge figures for London either swing it for Leave or are ignored in a bigger Leave win, it may appear much less crazy then it does now in the future, as I mentioned.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,536
    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Have switched over to Sky because of it.
  • OUTOUT Posts: 569

    All this talk of above and below par sounds like we are talking about a round of golf....

    We'll have the Leave albatrosses hung around our necks for a long time.
    Fore!
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    hunchman said:

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wasn't expecting those to be as good as that for leave.

    Believe. Be LEAVE.
    Portsmouth expected to lean leave Southampton to lean Remain - on Andy's Spreadsheet.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.
  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    swing it for remain, I meant ! Coffee again.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,548
    On break - leave look they've won then?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Switched over to Sky.
    Al "we shouldn't have had a referendum"
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    More awkward twists and contortions in Campbell's face than an anaconda!
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732

    Cameron's legacy!

    All political careers end in failure. This is just a bigger failure than other recent ones
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Meeks will be fine. I've seen his book ;)

    Backing leave !
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    DanSmith said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That would be extraordinary.
    10 % of Southampton is Polish, there is a significant resentment.

  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 78
    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    I'm calling this for leave.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,165
    This just shows that FPTP is awful. As soon as people feel that their vote actually means something, they vote in droves.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Turnout only 56% in Glasgow.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Somehow Tim Montgomerie irritates me more than Campbell.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,469

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Isn't he decamping to Hungary is Leave win?
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    "Don't let the people decide".....
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,841
    Ali Campbell looks grim...
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    GBPUSD calm in the 1.4550's..........waiting for more results.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Southampton, Sheffield, Leicester, and Nottingham are my bellwethers.

    They all go Leave, Leave have a clear win.
    Big asks for Leave, those.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    Nothing happening Pound: Euro AFAICS
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation

    Googling cheap flights to Hungary!
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,017
    I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised by all this.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,352

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Isn't he decamping to Hungary is Leave win?
    Just for the weekend :) Also if remain win too.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,513
    For those of us with significant share portfolios I suggest you hedge now on Betfair Leave.
  • oldpoliticsoldpolitics Posts: 455
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    Can I have their number? I'd like to buy all the pounds they have. Just to be clear, I didn't say I wanted to buy a lot of pounds, I said I wanted to buy all the pounds they have.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661

    HYUFD said:

    Isles of Scilly votes Remain

    803 Remain 621 Leave

    Get a huge amount of EU aid
    You mean UK taxpayers money.
    There is no such thing as "EU money". There is only taxpayers' money!
    And we might be getting it all back soon!
  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488

    Yes, this is definitely the Labour line. It's about Cameron not Brussels.

    which would show utter contempt for british people. Typical bloody islington.

    when will they listen and learn? Immigration was always always always the key to this. Switch off from 'working people' at your peril
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,469
    edited June 2016
    How Campbell has the audacity to go on media I have no idea.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,658
    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    PlatoSaid said:

    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Switched over to Sky.
    Al "we shouldn't have had a referendum"
    Urgh.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pulpstar said:

    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
    Meeks will be fine. I've seen his book ;)

    Backing leave !
    my book is doing well too, though sweating on turnout, I went low but Scotland may bring that home.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370
    weejonnie said:

    hunchman said:

    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wasn't expecting those to be as good as that for leave.

    Believe. Be LEAVE.
    Portsmouth expected to lean leave Southampton to lean Remain - on Andy's Spreadsheet.
    Portsmouth is no surprise, but Soton would be huge.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,099
    hunchman said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That's what I thought with the big Polish community here.
    Almost all ineligible to vote
  • BBC reporters and Labour forming circular firing squad :)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Kettering

    39% Remain
    61% Leave
  • DearPBDearPB Posts: 439
    There was a time that I thought leaving would at least be exciting; I don't feel excited...
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Ludicrous.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,013
    Charles said:

    John Curtis saying London t/o 2-3% below expectations

    Wandsworth 72% Remain apparently
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    We've broken the world. Little England?!
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,795
    The same old labour lines arent working anymore, and they werent workng snyway.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Eagles is pitiful. She really is.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Pulpstar said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Artist said:

    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.

    Swindon only par. But otherwise yes.
    Newham the only radically more pro-Remain than expected result.
    Yes, and we're beginning to get a reasonable spread of different types of seat. It's hard to see Remain winning from here.
    It's the likes of Pat the work cleaner that will win this for "leave".
    And people like my son, never voted in his life before today.

    PS Kettering OUT
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,320
    Danny565 said:

    On another note, I'm enjoying the subplot of the obvious tension between Dimbleby and Curtice.

    Sexual?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,013
    Kettering 62% out
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Kettering 61% out.
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    Miliband using the words "even if its a Remain result". I think the outcome is pretty clear. Markets still seem behind the curve
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,188

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287
    Kettering 61-39 for Leave.

    Was 57-43 on the spreadsheet
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,469
    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,283
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Prat
  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 78
    Ha! Angela Eagle almost reflexively blamed Margaret Thatcher!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,172

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Fancy a bet on that? Tell you what, lets bet on 20% to make it even vaguely meaningful.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    PlatoSaid said:

    Eagles is pitiful. She really is.

    She nearly blamed Margaret Thatcher just there
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,476
    Are we due some more results soon?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    LOL

    Eagles "Labour voters didn't like Margar...the Tories"

    :lol:
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    16.4m votes needed to win.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES

    I will never understand why so many of the Labour high command seem to think supporting the EU should be one of their core principles.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924

    Has Lab lost touch with its core vote.

    YES YES YES YES

    Thats just the 4 outers in my house
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,469
    edited June 2016
    hunchman said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That's what I thought with the big Polish community here.
    Maybe that is why the high Leave vote? I can see Crewe going massively leave for a similar reason. Harsh on the Poles who 99.9% have done nothing wrong, but some WWC towns have seen massive levels of immigration and that hasn't gone down well.
  • GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,302
    Starfall said:

    Ha! Angela Eagle almost reflexively blamed Margaret Thatcher!

    Noticed that. Hilarious.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    For those of us with significant share portfolios I suggest you hedge now on Betfair Leave.

    I flogged most of mine in April. I kept a few with mostly overseas assets.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Buy sterling in the morning if that happens then, that's insane.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Yes, this is definitely the Labour line. It's about Cameron not Brussels.

    which would show utter contempt for british people. Typical bloody islington.

    when will they listen and learn? Immigration was always always always the key to this. Switch off from 'working people' at your peril
    You can see the BBC folks thinking "omg, racists, racists everywhere, millions of 'em!"
  • LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651
    tlg86 said:

    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.

    That has crossed my mind. I have to take my elder daughter to the House of Lords tomorrow and I did wonder if we might see some democracy-loving SJW types out and about if Leave does this.

  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287
    edited June 2016
    Angela Eagle thisclose to mentioning Thatcher. Can't get away from party politics and actually address the issues regarding Europe.

    Campbell firstly saying the result isn't about the EU and then saying that it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

    Labour really haven't got a clue, have they?
  • JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    hunchman said:

    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
    if cameron and osborne aren't sulking they'd be wise to shut the markets on friday as far as thats possible. BoE to shore things up too.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,658
    Mortimer said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
    Never have I more regretted being a fluent French speaker.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    Can the British polling industry survive this?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @juliahobsbawm: The vibe amongst Remainers is incredulous and anxious right now. Leavers are keeping quiet.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022

    I genuinely don't understand why people are so surprised by all this.

    I have to say you are one of the few people who has been saying consistently that Leave would win.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,188
    Labour clinging to a bit more than half their vote might have stayed with us.

    A bit more than HALF
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Are Labour out of touch?

    Exhibit A: Angela Eagle.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    PlatoSaid said:

    LOL

    Eagles "Labour voters didn't like Margar...the Tories"

    :lol:

    someone tell them she died.
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237

    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
    Not often I agree with Campbell but he's right.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    AndyJS said:

    Kettering

    39% Remain
    61% Leave

    Any chance of a comparison with your par spreddie for each one?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,536
    LucyJones said:

    tlg86 said:

    The police need to be ready for trouble tomorrow.

    That has crossed my mind. I have to take my elder daughter to the House of Lords tomorrow and I did wonder if we might see some democracy-loving SJW types out and about if Leave does this.

    Nah, it's the likes of TSE you want to be worried about!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,352

    Mortimer said:

    So looks like my holiday to America is going to be cancelled.

    My boss has just texted me a 40% fall in Sterling in the morning at this rate.

    Sorry to hear that TSE. Was hoping there would be relaxation on that work edict.
    Never have I more regretted being a fluent French speaker.
    Would you say you have a good french tongue? *innocent face*
  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 44
    why is leave odds against? In seems to be underperforming where it needs to be to get over the line in every declaration to date?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,017

    This just shows that FPTP is awful. As soon as people feel that their vote actually means something, they vote in droves.

    Yep - if we genuinely want to make working class votes count we need to change our electoral system.

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,263
    hunchman said:

    Scott_P said:

    @ChrisRandWrites: Bloody hell. City analyst saying they’ve modelled in the possibility of a 40% fall in sterling tomorrow if we vote leave. That’s 40%.

    That's just ridiculous scare stories!
    A forty percent fall from 1GBP=1.4USD is 1GBP=0.85USD. That is the worse it has ever been post WW2
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Eagle just wants to be somewhere else.

    Beam me up scotty
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,658

    Can the British polling industry survive this?

    Some of them can. TNS looking like the gold standard
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.

    Has she ever been to a hairdresser? Also her top doesn't do her complexion any favors.
  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 78

    Starfall said:

    Campbell now saying the people should not have been let to vote.

    Did he honestly say that?
    Yes. Tim Montgomerie was all over him.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Sterling won't fall 40% but it might fall 20%.

    It's the rise in unemployment over the next year which is the key statistic to watch, of course. It will be quite significant.
  • Would like to be a fly on the wall in Guardian HQ tomorrow. Should have listened to John Harris...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,013
    edited June 2016

    Can the British polling industry survive this?

    TNS, Opinium, ICM all had Leave ahead in their final polls
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370

    Kettering 61-39 for Leave.

    Was 57-43 on the spreadsheet

    Another better than expected result for Leave.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,772
    How is Remain still 1.5?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Y0kel said:

    Are Labour out of touch?

    Exhibit A: Angela Eagle.

    Time for a clearout of Blairites
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,795
    Kettering out
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    Eagle with her little badge on is a ludicrous sight to behold.

    "Bless" crossed my lips..
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Big Leave vote from Kettering. 61% - 39%,
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