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    RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    EPG said:

    RealBritain said:

    RodCrosby said:

    hunchman said:

    BBC establishment suddenly starting to realise just how far removed they are from the ordinary man, woman and child in this country.

    If we get our country back, they're next...
    Unpleasant tone there.
    Say hi to your new friends. They won it for LEAVE and they want some people out of the country.

    Really, the PB Tory establishment is so far removed from why the ordinary LEAVEr wants LEAVE ;D
    Not my friends politically speaking - I'm for Remain. I partially agree on your second point, however.
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    LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    rcs1000 said:

    Swindon good for Leave, but not amazing

    Swindon is another place with a huge car factory. But still massively Leave. Remain is not in a good place.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,135
    edited June 2016
    HYUFD said:

    Now tightened up again nationally after Swindon

    In 51% Leave 49%

    The national number is surely useless until it gets to about 50% of votes counted (as it is so close)?
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,325
    surbiton said:

    Swindon not so overwhelming for Leave. Maybe Tories not so angry.

    That's right, this isn't over.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    Swindon 54.7% LEAVE

    Get in THERE

    Bang in line with 50/50 for England.
    That's not good enough is it? Need England to be 51/52 at least ...
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    BBC clinging to Swindon.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,124
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    Swindon 54.7% LEAVE

    Get in THERE

    Bang in line with 50/50 for England.
    Better for Leave than par. According to the spreadsheet par was 47.9% Remain.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Bit like 2015

    NE outlier

    Remain have won
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Broxbourne: Leave landslide.

    (NB: NOT Broxtowe!!!)
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Broxboune strong for leave!
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    Broxbourne good: 66 for Leave against 61 in the model
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    MP_SE said:

    RobD said:

    55% Leave from Swindon.

    Is that good for Leave?
    Slightly above Prediction 47.86 52.14
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    Broxbourne.

    This is on.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Broxbourne LEAVE cakewalk.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,610
    HurstLlama said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Wales going leave. It must be all over now. And as a remainer I will accept the will of the people, congratulate leave, and hope we can all come together for the good of our Country. Glad I bought my euros last week.

    Well done for you, Big_G, you might well have saved yourself a few quid.

    I can't quite believe what I am reading on here this evening though.
    It is an amazing night and raises huge questions for all our politicians and I think labour have far more problems than the conservatives. I would be amazed if leave do not win and I am off for a good night sleep before what must be a historic day tomorrow
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,098
    Referendum on Cameron?
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Broxbourne solidly Leave. Only London can save Remain.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    How on earth is BF not crossing over
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    Broxbourne 66% leave, outperforms par by about 6%
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    JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    williamglenn said:

    And Trump is going to land in the middle of all of the chaos and exploit it for the US audience... :(

    but uppose the British people do stick up two fingers to the establishment and they do vote Leave, doesnt Trump have every right to say, 'see'? Trumps 'I'm for You' response to Hillary's 'I'm for Her' was one of the smartest pieces of politicking I've seen. And I say that as someone who can't stand trump.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    weejonnie said:

    MP_SE said:

    RobD said:

    55% Leave from Swindon.

    Is that good for Leave?
    Slightly above Prediction 47.86 52.14
    Cheers.
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Would someone please put Jeremy Vine out of his misery?
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,753
    edited June 2016
    Broxbourne looks very good for leave.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,884
    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,817
    Broxbourne 66:34 LEAVE
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,958
    Broxbourne 66 out, 34 in, good or bad for leave?
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,165
    RealBritain said:

    EPG said:

    RealBritain said:

    RodCrosby said:

    hunchman said:

    BBC establishment suddenly starting to realise just how far removed they are from the ordinary man, woman and child in this country.

    If we get our country back, they're next...
    Unpleasant tone there.
    Say hi to your new friends. They won it for LEAVE and they want some people out of the country.

    Really, the PB Tory establishment is so far removed from why the ordinary LEAVEr wants LEAVE ;D
    Not my friends politically speaking - I'm for Remain. I partially agree on your second point, however.
    I mean the UK!

    They will run it now!
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    RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Could a big turn out in London still do it for Remain?

    I think that would be the worst possible result. Slim Remain and a London vs ... type scenario.

    This is what I'm, still, wondering about. That Lewisham figure was extraordinary.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,251
    Swindon has Honda which has been at some risk of closure - should have helped Remain.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    Chameleon said:

    Broxbourne 66 out, 34 in, good or bad for leave?

    Good. Spreadsheet was 61 out.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    People in Sunderland voting "for the first time since 1983".
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,135
    :o < my face
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    Swindon the first result that's better for REMAIN, but with the CI...

    It was 3% worse with my figures FWIW.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,251
    Leave is 3.2 at Betfair ?
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Broxbourne better for LEAVE
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    Chameleon said:

    Broxbourne 66 out, 34 in, good or bad for leave?

    Leave, highish turnout too
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,563
    Broxbourne 66% Leave
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Swindon = C1's going leave

    Fairly good turnout.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    Mortimer said:

    How on earth is BF not crossing over

    Because those in the know, know that there is a good load of "spare" ballot at Finchley Road ready to go just in case.
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    PantherDavePantherDave Posts: 59
    Leave need a better percentage than expected around south England and Midlands as I'm convinced that Remain will be greatly above par in London. Nailbiting stuff.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    Artist said:

    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.

    Swindon only par. But otherwise yes.
    Newham the only radically more pro-Remain than expected result.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,958
    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wow.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,135
    I would laugh if this still ended up as Remain 55 Leave 45 lol
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    Jeremy not sure what the hell is going on...
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,589
    JennyFreeman said:

    williamglenn said:

    And Trump is going to land in the middle of all of the chaos and exploit it for the US audience... :(

    but uppose the British people do stick up two fingers to the establishment and they do vote Leave, doesnt Trump have every right to say, 'see'? Trumps 'I'm for You' response to Hillary's 'I'm for Her' was one of the smartest pieces of politicking I've seen. And I say that as someone who can't stand trump.
    Trump is very, very smart, and I think in many ways he's been a breath of fresh air in US politics. But this is not his fight.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,753
    BBC running the line that this is a referendum on Cameron now. Heaven forfend that people could reject their precious EU.
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    FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    GarethoftheVale2 said:

    Lewisham 83% for Remain. Holy f*ck the other way.

    My Serbian Princess forgot to vote (but she is unwell atm)! I am home and will review these stats: I doubt that they are true.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,124
    Chameleon said:

    Broxbourne 66 out, 34 in, good or bad for leave?

    Par was 40.3 So good for Leave
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    PantherDave said:

    Leave need a better percentage than expected around south England and Midlands as I'm convinced that Remain will be greatly above par in London. Nailbiting stuff.

    The gossip from the Midlands towns suggests heavy wins for Leave.
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038
    The spreadsheet has Birmingham at 58% - the best I expect is 50-50.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,065
    surbiton said:

    Broxbourne solidly Leave. Only London can save Remain.

    London will be excellent for Remain, but it won't be enough.

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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Starting to say london turnout is lower
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Portsmouth good (but not amazing) for Leave
    Southampton would be fantastic.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Wasn't expecting those to be as good as that for leave.

    Believe. Be LEAVE.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    rcs1000 said:

    Artist said:

    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.

    Swindon only par. But otherwise yes.
    Newham the only radically more pro-Remain than expected result.
    Yes, and we're beginning to get a reasonable spread of different types of seat. It's hard to see Remain winning from here.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,138
    Cameron's legacy!
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    And now it's the weather to blame in London.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    Still almost 3 at BF
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    https://twitter.com/election_data/status/746130145623310336
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.
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    LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    London turnout is LOW according to BBC and Curtice.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Curtis - london turnout worse than expected
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    London turnout lower than expected. Bad news for Remain.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    All this talk of above and below par sounds like we are talking about a round of golf....
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    John Curtis saying London t/o 2-3% below expectations
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,053
    Come on Guardinistas (I am a proud subscriber), come on Oxford and Cambridge, Come on London, and Come on you Tories in the shires......
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    Prof Curtice reckons that the weather and floods has affected the turnout in London.
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    edited June 2016
    RealBritain said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Could a big turn out in London still do it for Remain?

    I think that would be the worst possible result. Slim Remain and a London vs ... type scenario.

    This is what I'm, still, wondering about. That Lewisham figure was extraordinary.
    London can't outweigh the whole of the rest of England. What other English region is looking good for Remain?
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    On another note, I'm enjoying the subplot of the obvious tension between Dimbleby and Curtice.
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    RepublicanToryRepublicanTory Posts: 563
    surbiton said:

    Broxbourne solidly Leave. Only London can save Remain.

    Curtis saying TO in london maybe a few % down
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,098
    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?
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    StarfallStarfall Posts: 78
    Wanderer said:

    RealBritain said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Could a big turn out in London still do it for Remain?

    I think that would be the worst possible result. Slim Remain and a London vs ... type scenario.

    This is what I'm, still, wondering about. That Lewisham figure was extraordinary.
    London can't outweigh the whole of the rest of England. What other English region is looking good for Remain?
    Cornwall.
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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Curtice thinks turnout might be down 2% in London.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,124
    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Swindon the first result that's better for REMAIN, but with the CI...

    It was 3% worse with my figures FWIW.
    I am using your figures so I do hope you are right Andy :-)
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    edited June 2016
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Artist said:

    So Leave have been above par in all English seats so far.

    Swindon only par. But otherwise yes.
    Newham the only radically more pro-Remain than expected result.
    Yes, and we're beginning to get a reasonable spread of different types of seat. It's hard to see Remain winning from here.
    It's the likes of Pat the work cleaner that will win this for "leave".
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,325
    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Mad Al alert
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    LordWakefieldLordWakefield Posts: 144
    MarqueeMark said:

    HYUFD said:

    Isles of Scilly votes Remain

    803 Remain 621 Leave

    Get a huge amount of EU aid
    You mean UK taxpayers money.
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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Cameron Toasters now being taken out of the attic. Dusted down; fuse checked; fired up.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    brokenwheel said:

    https://twitter.com/election_data/status/746130145623310336

    52:48 for Leave would be my bet
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,589
    edited June 2016
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    All this talk of above and below par sounds like we are talking about a round of golf....

    We'll have the Leave albatrosses hung around our necks for a long time.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    London turnout depressed says curtice.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,053
    Curtice is the grim reaper
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    DavidL said:

    BBC running the line that this is a referendum on Cameron now. Heaven forfend that people could reject their precious EU.

    Based on some of the discussions on here, one half of the country finds the other incomprehensible. We're not speaking the same language any longer.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    "Hasn't been any good news for the remain side so far this evening"
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Gravitation said:

    Prof Curtice reckons that the weather and floods has affected the turnout in London.

    haha. I was on the f**king beach, after voting. 25C.
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    Switched over to Sky.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    Surely the GOP can't dump Trump now.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    John_M said:

    DavidL said:

    BBC running the line that this is a referendum on Cameron now. Heaven forfend that people could reject their precious EU.

    Based on some of the discussions on here, one half of the country finds the other incomprehensible. We're not speaking the same language any longer.
    And then you have got Scotland....
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    tlg86 said:

    Alistair Campbell on BBC now.

    I get all my TV via satellite - it's about a minute behind!
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    FrankBooth said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That's what I thought with the big Polish community here.
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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Already spinning the result as being nothing to do with the EU.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,817
    LordWakefield said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    HYUFD said:

    Isles of Scilly votes Remain

    803 Remain 621 Leave

    Get a huge amount of EU aid
    You mean UK taxpayers money.
    There is no such thing as "EU money". There is only taxpayers' money!
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    FrankBooth said:

    Southampton 60% Leave seems very high surely?

    That would be extraordinary.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,124
    Wow. John McDonnell is tiny
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,958
    edited June 2016
    GBPUSD is looking steady at $1.45/6 for the pound.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,674
    Yes, this is definitely the Labour line. It's about Cameron not Brussels.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,409
    TGOHF said:

    Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.

    BBC

    Southampton, Sheffield, Leicester, and Nottingham are my bellwethers.

    They all go Leave, Leave have a clear win.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,251
    taffys said:

    All gone a bit quiet at Meeks towers.

    He's setting up the 'Independence for London' organisation :wink:
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