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  • saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Andy_JS said:

    I voted in a village hall at about 4pm, and for the first time didn't even take my polling card with me. Amazing how lax we are about ID in this country. In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    We don't have a history of actively segregating the population based on race that has had far reaching consequences still felt today
  • Gabs3 said:

    https://www.twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/1205097181486747648

    Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...

    Tory Hold Berger out of a job
    You sound like you'd prefer that over a Tory losing his job.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,424

    ydoethur said:

    Brom said:

    Andrew said:

    I could really be on board with Boris losing his seat but Tory overall majority.

    Hell yeah. Would be fun to see who they then picked as PM.
    He would stay as PM I guess and someone would step down in a safe seat
    I don't think you can have an unelected PM? Don't they have to be a Member of Parliament? Of Commons or Lords? Maybe they would elevate him quickly to the House of Lords.

    However, I suspect the tory party would ditch him very fast.

    All fun but fanciful at this stage.
    Alec Douglas Home was not a member of either house for a few weeks in 1963.

    Patrick Gordon Walker was Foreign Secretary for four months in 1964-65 but not a member of either house.
    Oh my goodness don't mention Patrick Gordon Walker! Parachuting Boris into a safe seat might not work too well.
    Hopefully not!

    But if he loses his seat he’ll be defenestrated faster than you say ‘you’ve buggered up the autocue you mophaired oaf.’
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,386

    OK, time for my polling station story. Arrived 6.15ish with the rest of the after work commuter crowd. And crowd is the right word for it. There were at least 15 queueing when I arrived and 20 by the time I left. That must count as "brisk" in anyone's book.

    The most exciting part was that the desks and booths were in reverse formation from last time.

    Oh, and Wor Lass told me to stop slagging off Philip Davies within earshot of the other voters as we were stood in the queue.

    Shame it wasn't within Philip Davies' earshot. Dreadful man.
  • Lib Dems are out knocking up in Kew tonight - now, at 8:30 - one of their safest wards of their 'nailed on' gain of Richmond Park and Kew.
  • saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    It was originally Tweeted out by a Labour person.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,424

    ydoethur said:

    twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1205220464274092042

    Kind of chimes in

    If it is close in Crewe, Tories aren't getting a majority.
    It is however Skwawkbox, who is infamous for his dishonesty and total fabrications.
    Just like the Daily Mail that has been posted here then?
    Well, yes. We have two thoroughly unreliable sources of news giving the same information. One of them has links to Fascist groups and he other is owned by Lord Rothermere...
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    If it is Shopped, I'll quite happily withdraw. The scary thing is it seems believable for her.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,675
    Still to vote. Still to decide.
  • speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    edited December 2019
    ydoethur said:

    speedy2 said:
    Presumably if London is resisting the Tory tide Jon Cruddas is safe in Dagenham?
    Nope.

    If it's the inverse of 2017 and seats that voted less than 60% Remain swing towards the Conservatives then Dagenham should be a Conservative gain because it's a Leave seat if I'm correct.
  • Truro/Falmouth now 4-1 dropping by the minute. Ruth gripper (lib dem) stood down and no incumbent.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Universal National Swing has well and truly joined the dodos.
  • saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    It was originally Tweeted out by a Labour person.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B58DqnrAAXG/

    Here's the same photo. It's a fake.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Andy_JS said:

    In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    Absolute bollocks.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,602
    Jonathan said:

    Still to vote. Still to decide.

    I changed my mind at the last moment. Was going to vote for my second choice and switched to my first choice. Since it's a safe seat it won't matter.
  • speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    Chameleon said:

    Universal National Swing has well and truly joined the dodos.

    If it's a Conservative majority of 40-60 then it would have been accurate yet again.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,424
    Chameleon said:

    Universal National Swing has well and truly joined the dodos.

    It always was for the birds...
  • saddened said:

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    If it is Shopped, I'll quite happily withdraw. The scary thing is it seems believable for her.
    Here's the same photo, not photoshopped, from her Instagram.

    You're saying she posted two of the same photo?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B58DqnrAAXG/
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609
    edited December 2019
    LucyJones said:

    Good evening, PBers.

    Thought I'd add my voting experience to the mix.

    Voted at around noon in Sevenoaks. The only person in the polling station, and squinting at the list of electors, looked like very few names crossed off by that point - perhaps 10% at a guess. Still, it's a Tory safe seat, so not of any significance.

    Daughter voted in Canterbury today - she's at Kent University. It was quiet-ish in her polling station with a single Labour teller. On the campus, however, students were queueing up to vote and mostly going on about voting Labour, as you'd expect. So probably little chance of Anna Firth taking the seat, in line with the YouGov MRP.

    Wasn't it like this on the campus in 2017 though? Depends how things have changed elsewhere in Canterbury.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,424
    rpjs said:

    Andy_JS said:

    In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    Absolute bollocks.
    Blimey. Why do they ask you to show those? Are the guards a bit, er, oversexed, shall we say?
  • NEW FRED!!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,602
    Marcus01 said:

    Lib Dems are out knocking up in Kew tonight - now, at 8:30 - one of their safest wards of their 'nailed on' gain of Richmond Park and Kew.

    Do you think it isn't quite as safe as they were hoping?
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    Gabs3 said:

    https://www.twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/1205097181486747648

    Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...

    Tory Hold Berger out of a job
    You sound like you'd prefer that over a Tory losing his job.
    He would
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    It was originally Tweeted out by a Labour person.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B58DqnrAAXG/

    Here's the same photo. It's a fake.
    This one? What twats
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,710
    Con Maj 1.39
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Jonathan said:

    Still to vote. Still to decide.

    Do anything to stop Boris

    Please :wink:
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    So, if BJ loses will he likely get appointed to the Lords before he forces a friendly Tory MP in a safe seat into retirement (perhaps going back to his old constituency)?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,602
    rpjs said:

    Andy_JS said:

    In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    Absolute bollocks.
    I had to show ID when buying a train ticket from Boston's North Station to Salem a couple of years ago.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,386
    speedy2 said:

    ydoethur said:

    speedy2 said:
    Presumably if London is resisting the Tory tide Jon Cruddas is safe in Dagenham?
    Nope.

    If it's the inverse of 2017 and seats that voted less than 60% Remain swing towards the Conservatives then Dagenham should be a Conservative gain because it's a Leave seat if I'm correct.
    You may well be right, but the wildly confident predictions of some of you PB Tories just demonstrates a positive mental attitude. I like that!.
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789

    I predicted those five seats in London swapping earlier, I am feeling more confident now.

    You’ve done over 2000 posts in short order. Shit sometimes sticks to the wall if you throw enough.
  • speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    I'm off until the exit poll.
    A reminder here is my swingometer that you can print off and use in your own home:


  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    The shoes might be photoshoped for the lolz. But not how ill she looks.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Andy_JS said:
    Can I remind you what happened the night of the Referendum? Even into the early hours.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609

    Andy_JS said:
    Can I remind you what happened the night of the Referendum? Even into the early hours.
    Yes. We disovered how many angry Bexiteers had come out to vote.

    That what you mean?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,254

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    It isn't a Photoshop. The alleged rebuttal uses a different picture, and the odd shoes appear in more than one piccie.

    You shouldn't believe all these rebuttals you get off the internet :-)

    https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-mp-diane-abbott-photographed-wearing-two-odd-shoes-20191212
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1205220464274092042

    Kind of chimes in

    If it is close in Crewe, Tories aren't getting a majority.
    None of these silly little tweets mean anything. Labour may or may not be struggling in Crewe, or in Wrexham, or in Hull, or in any number of other places. We just don't know. It's all noise to fill the howling void whilst people twiddle their thumbs waiting nervously for the results. That's all.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,386
    Jonathan said:

    Still to vote. Still to decide.

    If you get there in time. I think at least you will know who you are not voting for.
  • NEW THREAD

  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Marcus01 said:

    Lib Dems are out knocking up in Kew tonight - now, at 8:30 - one of their safest wards of their 'nailed on' gain of Richmond Park and Kew.


    That’s because that’s what you do you can’t move every activist by order from high command you might just do it between adjacent council wards but it’s not normal.
  • moonshine said:

    Any of you players changed your betting views yet? Robert still going for Boris to win bigly?

    Nope, my betting position hasn’t changed for two weeks. I’m betting on 60 majority, but with insurance lower. A few individual seat bets that I’ve topped up as odds allowed.

    But I’m a fun bettor only.
  • SunnyJimSunnyJim Posts: 1,106
    edited December 2019
    Something just happened?

    Con maj just backed in to sub 1.4 and Labour under 206.5 has collapsed in.


    Edit: And a spike up in GBP/USD at the same time.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    speedy2 said:
    I know that is not true in Don Valley. No idea about other two
  • saddened said:

    saddened said:

    ydoethur said:

    DeClare said:

    Can somebody remind me of a typical Leave seat to look out for early on, which will give an indication of how the Tories are doing?

    Stoke Newington.
    You probably mean Stoke-on-Trent.

    Stoke Newington is part of the Hackney North constituency in London, Dianne Abbot is the MP.
    I know. It was a wind-up. And CHB didn’t notice.
    Diane Abbott losing her seat would be very funny though and probably would indicate that the result is sub-optimal for the Labour Party.
    Speaking of the fragrant Dianne, this is the first mention of her during this campaign that I've seen. Seriously WTF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784881/Starting-wrong-foot-Labours-Diane-Abbott-appears-rushed-ODD-shoes.html
    You know that's a fake photo right? It's a photoshop.

    Like I said, the Daily Mail makes up lies but because it's pro-Tory it gets a pass.
    If it is Shopped, I'll quite happily withdraw. The scary thing is it seems believable for her.
    Here's the same photo, not photoshopped, from her Instagram.

    You're saying she posted two of the same photo?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B58DqnrAAXG/
    If it is a photoshop it’s remarkably good given that her scarf is tied differently in the second.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    speedy2 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Universal National Swing has well and truly joined the dodos.

    If it's a Conservative majority of 40-60 then it would have been accurate yet again.
    Just because the errors cancel out doesn't mean that it's accurate would be my contention.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Andy_JS said:

    rpjs said:

    Andy_JS said:

    In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    Absolute bollocks.
    I had to show ID when buying a train ticket from Boston's North Station to Salem a couple of years ago.
    Were you paying at a ticket window with a non-US card? Sounds like they were just double-checking your ID against your card (I've had to show ID to use a non-Swedish card in a Stockholm department store, so it's not just the US).

    I can assure you that you do not need to show ID to buy tickets on NYC area rail including Metro-North, the Long Island Railroad and New Jersey Transit. Quite a while since I last used the T (Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority) commuter rail but no need to show ID then either.
  • Sources (twitter journalists) Tories leading in Dagenham, Putney, Chingford, Wimbledon.
    Diverting resources to Battersea from Putney.
    Bishop Auckland is a ‘cast iron gain’. Rother Valley, Derby North, Bolsover and Bassetlaw will go blue.
    West Midlands - tough fight in Birmingham northfield and two Coventry seats.

    Labour - Paul sweeney looks doomed in Glasgow northeast.
    Watford, Battersea, Uxbridge, Chingford, Enfield Finchley and Kensington are where they still are canvassing.
    Morecambe, High Peak, Pudsey, Grimsby vote holding up well.
    Stroud looks bad for labour due to split vote.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,254
    edited December 2019
    Off to buy popcorn.

    More healthy than crisps.

    Incidentally OT - if anyone is planning to hire any power tools, scaffold towers etc, at Christmas you get great deals and often the extra days free.
  • Amber Valley. Had a Conservative leaflet delivered sometime between 3:10PM and 7:00PM. Not unusual for this to happen on the day, it has happened before. Seems a bit pointless though, Nigel Mills will likely increase his majority to 5 figures. I had already voted in any case
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,127
    DavidL said:

    Why the fuck does anyone in this benighted country ever travel by train? The useless bastards have delayed my train so that I won’t be at home by the exit poll. I hate them. Yes I may have had a drink. But it does not excuse their incompetence.

    Amen
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    rpjs said:

    Andy_JS said:

    In the United States you can't even buy a local train ticket without showing ID.

    Absolute bollocks.
    Local ticket of course not. Amtrak requires it though.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    Gabs3 said:

    https://www.twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/1205097181486747648

    Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...

    Tory Hold Berger out of a job
    You sound like you'd prefer that over a Tory losing his job.
    No i would prefer the Tories to lose
  • BONG minus 1 hour!
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