Heard on Twitter the Russians are going to launch a major cyber attack on the UK internet at 9.59 after they get their bets on at the last minute, it must be true because you heard it here
God spare us from Conservatives who, fresh from a referendum campaign on Brexit won by scaring people with untrue stories that millions of Muslims were poised to descend on Britain and are backing for Prime Minister a man who sought to suspend democracy to impose a mandateless policy with enduring consequences on the country and who concluded his election campaign with a posh man’s version of “send the immigrants home”, worry about the ethical credentials of their opponents.
Even if Corbyn is kept out, I will never trust my fellow British Millenials again.
Labour voters are either anti-Semites, or don't mind a bit of vile anti-Semitism.
That's the only conclusion.
True of some but there is a total unconscious blocking of the reality of the LP leadership in the case of many. In some ways it is more frightening in that I don't know what can be done but in other ways less frightening because the scales must drop eventually. The evidence about Corbyn and antisemitism and his support for repressive regimes and vile terrorists is overwhelming but some will not see.
Even if Corbyn is kept out, I will never trust my fellow British Millenials again.
Labour voters are either anti-Semites, or don't mind a bit of vile anti-Semitism.
That's the only conclusion.
True of some but there is a total unconscious blocking of the reality of the LP leadership in the case of many. In some ways it is more frightening in that I don't know what can be done but in other ways less frightening because the scales must drop eventually. The evidence about Corbyn and antisemitism and his support for repressive regimes and vile terrorists is overwhelming but some will not see.
Even if Corbyn is kept out, I will never trust my fellow British Millenials again.
Labour voters are either anti-Semites, or don't mind a bit of vile anti-Semitism.
That's the only conclusion.
True of some but there is a total unconscious blocking of the reality of the LP leadership in the case of many. In some ways it is more frightening in that I don't know what can be done but in other ways less frightening because the scales must drop eventually. The evidence about Corbyn and antisemitism and his support for repressive regimes and vile terrorists is overwhelming but some will not see.
Yebbut there is no evidence of Pablo Escobar personally dealing cocaine.
I am baffled by the whining about Corbyn not being personally anti semitic. It suggests there are values of x for which Corbyn being xly anti semitic is perfectly fine and dandy. What are these values?
Even if Corbyn is kept out, I will never trust my fellow British Millenials again.
Labour voters are either anti-Semites, or don't mind a bit of vile anti-Semitism.
That's the only conclusion.
True of some but there is a total unconscious blocking of the reality of the LP leadership in the case of many. In some ways it is more frightening in that I don't know what can be done but in other ways less frightening because the scales must drop eventually. The evidence about Corbyn and antisemitism and his support for repressive regimes and vile terrorists is overwhelming but some will not see.
Yebbut there is no evidence of Pablo Escobar personally dealing cocaine.
I am baffled by the whining about Corbyn not being personally anti semitic. It suggests there are values of x for which Corbyn being xly anti semitic is perfectly fine and dandy. What are these values?
Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...
They were 4 points behind in 2017, reasonable for Labour to campaign there. You could write a very long book about antisemetism in the Labour, don't need to get the tinfoil hats out as well.
God spare us from Conservatives who, fresh from a referendum campaign on Brexit won by scaring people with untrue stories that millions of Muslims were poised to descend on Britain and are backing for Prime Minister a man who sought to suspend democracy to impose a mandateless policy with enduring consequences on the country and who concluded his election campaign with a posh man’s version of “send the immigrants home”, worry about the ethical credentials of their opponents.
Everyone worries about the ethical credentials of their opponents.
Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...
They were 4 points behind in 2017, reasonable for Labour to campaign there. You could write a very long book about antisemetism in the Labour, don't need to get the tinfoil hats out as well.
Just dropped my wife off to vote in Rushcliffe (I voted this morning) -Turnout high in this rare remain northern(ish) seat. No Ken Clarke this time who had a big personal vote.
Wife reported that they handed her an unfolded ballot paper
I’ve been involved in elections since 1983 and have never ever know what was going on anywhere than in the patch that my committee room covered and that was open to interpretation. I doubt if anyone really knows what’s happening and all these stories are complete and utter bollocks. They help pass the time away but get real nobody really knows
Completely agree. Even people at the count at 2 in the morning don't always know what's going on, after they've already been counting votes for 4 hours.
It's entertaining to read all the rumours and gossip but they mean very little.
Absolutely.
In 2010 I was at the count for Penistone & Stocksbridge updating the spreadsheet with the test counts for the Tories. We didn’t have any previous count data, so there was some guesswork (I’d calculated targets from canvassing data). At about 2am I couldn’t call it for sure, although thought we’d probably lost. Labour, who would have had far better data than us, looked really panicked which was giving me some hope,
They won by 3,000 votes.
Once the count is well under way its pretty simple. Walk up and down looking at tables. You can see who is ahead.
Yes, but it can take some time before you get to that point.
Time to go anyway, just before the PB victory lap begins. Before that they will panic and I will be encouraged, and then BONG Boris Johnson set for a landslide majority.
One thing that really worries me is I've followed this election pretty closely and now I try to think back I can barely remember a single conservative policy (other than, of course "get Brexit done" - which is really more of an aspiration than a policy at this point).
On the other hand I can remember dozens of Labour ones. From free internet to the WASPI pledge to cutting fares for commuters to taxing those earning over 80k.
What I'm saying is that Labour have given people something to vote for. The Tories have not.
If the Tories scrape home narrowly tonight the spectre of Corbynism will remain. I just don't think they've done enough to discredit it. And Labour may well get lucky next time round.
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The university towns have swung to Labour in 2010 and 2015 and 2017 already, as memories of the Iraq war receded.
All those lefties that were outraged by the Farage poster endlessly screaming racism are now happy to vote for Corbyn's Labour party.
Could anyone make that up?
Putney
Chipping Barnet
Canterbury
Portsmouth South
Bristol NW
Cambridge
Leeds NW
Reading East
Wirral West
Of course they want to go out their way to ensure the Jew doesn't get elected...
At home in London at the moment! But I have Ryanair.com and easyjet.com up in case Corbyn wins and I have to move to Spain to rent a room off you!
I am baffled by the whining about Corbyn not being personally anti semitic. It suggests there are values of x for which Corbyn being xly anti semitic is perfectly fine and dandy. What are these values?
I am baffled by the whining about Corbyn not being personally anti semitic. It suggests there are values of x for which Corbyn being xly anti semitic is perfectly fine and dandy. What are these values?
Busier than I’ve ever seen it but it’s usually dead so what do I know!
“from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”,
the genocidal promise of Hamas to drive out the Jews from Israel/Palestine.
Strange that the only war the "stop the war " lot ever seem to want is against Israel
Strange that
Remind me of their past and current leadership again?
Busier than I’ve ever seen it but it’s usually dead so what do I know!
Busier than I’ve ever seen it but it’s usually dead so what do I know!
Coincidence?
Pidders defenestration rumours intensify on Twitter.
On a different issue did anyone see the astonishing bias from Vicky Young today on the BBC, saying Johnson deserved a majority .
The BBC have lost a lot of credibility in this election .
Just dropped my wife off to vote in Rushcliffe (I voted this morning) -Turnout high in this rare remain northern(ish) seat. No Ken Clarke this time who had a big personal vote.
Wife reported that they handed her an unfolded ballot paper
It was absolutely heaving compared to normal. 6 people in there with me. Never ever seen that before. Could this mean something seismic?*
*er no, because I normally vote on my own at 7am.
Busier than I’ve ever seen it but it’s usually dead so what do I know!
If the Conservatives win Sunderland Central they have won the election.
If not, then look at the swing in Swindon.
Time to go anyway, just before the PB victory lap begins. Before that they will panic and I will be encouraged, and then BONG Boris Johnson set for a landslide majority.
On the other hand I can remember dozens of Labour ones. From free internet to the WASPI pledge to cutting fares for commuters to taxing those earning over 80k.
What I'm saying is that Labour have given people something to vote for. The Tories have not.
If the Tories scrape home narrowly tonight the spectre of Corbynism will remain. I just don't think they've done enough to discredit it. And Labour may well get lucky next time round.
But please can we also avoid 82 posts in the final 10 minutes asking people to leave the Exit Poll to a mod?
https://twitter.com/jdoyleworthing/status/1205213101341184002
Something of a 1992 Basildon if you will
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16BjKMutz0rNyU7jqyH-S0VTcYPwhp-fGD5z73s-5YoA/edit#gid=0