If it’s anything other than a Tory majority then you have to wonder whether the pollsters should just give up and go home. How many polling disasters can their tattered credibility stand?
I think there's a real problem reaching a meaningful sample nowadays. People are moving away from landlines and those who do still use them, don't like cold calls.
I wonder if today 'might' spell the end of opinion polling.
If it’s anything other than a Tory majority then you have to wonder whether the pollsters should just give up and go home. How many polling disasters can their tattered credibility stand?
It would be great entertainment though - like that Japanese game show in the 80s where they had computer predictions at the start of who would make it through to the next round and at the end was the shame-faced forecaster explaining why the predictions where wrong
Just gonna finish my cuppa then off to do my bit in evicting Clive Lewis, I'll report on how long I had to queue and how many youngsters there are weeping and singing oh Jeremy corbyn in the snaking lines
This is a horrible election for people who don't like Brexit and also don't think Corbyn is suitable to be PM. You have to choose which is the least-worst option and they're both pretty bad if those are your opinions.
Er....that would be me then. Thank you Andy.
Fortunately I am spared great angst by our ridiculous voting system which renders my decision pretty much meaningless anyway.
So with the Mori poll now in and the average Tory lead remaining at or around the 10% mark, it's going to take a great deal more than a few additional tens of thousands of over-excited young socialists across the land to deprive Boris of his majority. In exactly 11 hours time they are going to be very, very disappointed.
So with the Mori poll now in and the average Tory lead remaining at or around the 10% mark, it's going to take a great deal more than a few tens of thousands of over-excited young socialists across the land to deprive Boris of his majority. In exactly 11 hours time they are going to be very, very disappointed.
The problem is that Boris is singularly poorly positioned to bring people together.
Is there really the same enthusiasm this time as there was in 2017, when there wasn't a surge in youth turnout. Even the rise in registration has been shown to be nothing but normal population growth.
It could just be that the young people are turning up in the their home constituency rather than at a University?
I voted in Thornbury and Yate this morning where voting was ‘brisk’ and I have just travelled down the m5 and a38 to Plymouth. It rained heavily most of the way but there is just a light drizzle here at the moment. I will be at a meeting close to the University area later so I will fall past and report back on if it looks busy around that area.
So with Ipsos-MORI in we have 12 pollsters (if we count Qriously) and 10 of them have final poll leads outside the 'zone of uncertainty' (i.e. above 8%).
Lets suppose the "margin of error event" happens and both the tories are down 3 and Labour are up 3 points. That makes a GB-con lead of 3 or four %points, which is easily in hung parliament teritory.
Trying to think of reasons to keep positive in the face of a probable Tory majority:
1. Farage is surely history. 2. Corbyn likewise hopefully. 3. Tories will have to own the fact that Brexit is more complicated than simply leaving in 31 Jan. 4. There’s a recession coming - the Tories might as well cop the blame for it.
(Hard to turn 'there's a recession coming' into a positive but you can only work with the material available.)
If labour replace Corbyn with someone sensible then I promise not to vote for Steve Baker next time.
You voted for Steve Baker
That’s how much I don’t want a Corbyn government. I was not happy about it. If I could have trusted the polls then I would have voted Lib Dem, but after last time I couldn’t take the risk.
Blimey, people at polling stations keep detailed notes of these things for comparison?
In fairness, I suspect poll station agents for parties are pretty obsessive and often do the same polling station each election so may get a bit of a gut instinct for how turnout is looking at their station.
Trying to think of reasons to keep positive in the face of a probable Tory majority:
1. Farage is surely history. 2. Corbyn likewise hopefully. 3. Tories will have to own the fact that Brexit is more complicated than simply leaving in 31 Jan. 4. There’s a recession coming - the Tories might as well cop the blame for it.
(Hard to turn 'there's a recession coming' into a positive but you can only work with the material available.)
If labour replace Corbyn with someone sensible then I promise not to vote for Steve Baker next time.
Blimey, people at polling stations keep detailed notes of these things for comparison?
That’s what tellers do. JohnO has been doing that since 7am.
Oh right. I was a teller in 2015 and never noted the age of voters at all, let alone kept notes. Shoddy old Ukip I guess
Tellers don't note the age of voters, except subjectively. Decent election day software would be able to do it, if you interrogated it properly. But anyone running an election right now doesn't have time to be doing such off-point analysis.
It is going to be very interesting to see what happens in those "put a red rosette on a Tory and I'd still vote Labour [c.f. St Helens]" constituencies, when faced with an actual ballot paper and the prospect of putting a cross next to the Conservative Party candidate, as they've been telling pollsters they are intending.
I've genuinely no idea how that will work out. And will they remember who they actually voted for in the first post-GE poll?
Trying to think of reasons to keep positive in the face of a probable Tory majority:
1. Farage is surely history. 2. Corbyn likewise hopefully. 3. Tories will have to own the fact that Brexit is more complicated than simply leaving in 31 Jan. 4. There’s a recession coming - the Tories might as well cop the blame for it.
(Hard to turn 'there's a recession coming' into a positive but you can only work with the material available.)
If labour replace Corbyn with someone sensible then I promise not to vote for Steve Baker next time.
You voted for Steve Baker
That’s how much I don’t want a Corbyn government. I was not happy about it. If I could have trusted the polls then I would have voted Lib Dem, but after last time I couldn’t take the risk.
From Lib Dem to the king of Hard Brexit. That's a hell of a journey.
Unless you're betting, stop looking. Think back to what happened the night of the referendum.
I should be working but Betfair sometimes tells us things. There was a blip early Tuesday evening where Con Majority drifted. I'm very confident (despite what yougov say) someone had taken a peak at the updated MRP.
Of course most Betfair movements are nonsense but I'll cling on to anything as a way of telling the result.
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
Yes, it's so they can mark you off their canvass lists. If you haven't been canvassed, of course, it's entirely pointless.
I have but they won't know I've voted then since I didn't give him my address right? Or can they see the marked register inside?
So with Ipsos-MORI in we have 12 pollsters (if we count Qriously) and 10 of them have final poll leads outside the 'zone of uncertainty' (i.e. above 8%).
Lets suppose the "margin of error event" happens and both the tories are down 3 and Labour are up 3 points. That makes a GB-con lead of 3 or four %points, which is easily in hung parliament teritory.
I agree, but what is the % chance of a margin or error in that direction? Less than 33% I'd say. It's (100% - Polls Right - Polls Wrong but Pro-Tory Error).
In 2017 Ipsos MORI’s final poll forecast an 8% Tory lead.
Would they not be mad to not make changes (assuming they haven’t?)? They must have some level of confidence in their numbers to put them out there without further tweaking.
Genuine question to those who think there will be a hung parliament.
As I see it, there were two main reasons why we got to the result we did last time compared to expectations:
A very large shift (mainly increase in the Labour position) in the polls during the campaign.
The final polls underestimated Labours position by a few points.
This time, there hasn't been such a shift and I expect the polling companies to have made adjustments to avoid the understatement of Labour. In fact, you could argue that history suggests they tend to overcorrect.
So, why should there be a hung parliament this time? Is it just because people think that a 7-8% lead won't be enough for a majority, or do people think that it is going to be a lot closer than that? If so, why?
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
Yes. I was asked the same by an ex pupil. He had a red rosette though.
Markets all over the place today. Seems to be anywhere between 1.40 and 1.50. I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't nervous, despite some encouraging polling figures. Hell, I'm as nervous as a long tailed cat at a rocking chair convention.
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
They aren't supposed to talk to you on the way in, lest it be considered trying to influence you. But a lot of polling stations collect polling cards, or have a bin into which most people throw them, and the teller is probably trying to collect the numbers while people still have them.
If anyone mentioned to the Presiding Officer that one of the tellers spoke to them on the way in and they were unhappy with it, s/he would surely pop out to have a word.
Is there really the same enthusiasm this time as there was in 2017, when there wasn't a surge in youth turnout. Even the rise in registration has been shown to be nothing but normal population growth.
It could just be that the young people are turning up in the their home constituency rather than at a University?
I voted in Thornbury and Yate this morning where voting was ‘brisk’ and I have just travelled down the m5 and a38 to Plymouth. It rained heavily most of the way but there is just a light drizzle here at the moment. I will be at a meeting close to the University area later so I will fall past and report back on if it looks busy around that area.
One would also think you’d see a morning surge in young folk who are going to vote today, because many of them will be on the piss later. It’s peak Christmas Party day.
Is there really the same enthusiasm this time as there was in 2017, when there wasn't a surge in youth turnout. Even the rise in registration has been shown to be nothing but normal population growth.
It could just be that the young people are turning up in the their home constituency rather than at a University?
I voted in Thornbury and Yate this morning where voting was ‘brisk’ and I have just travelled down the m5 and a38 to Plymouth. It rained heavily most of the way but there is just a light drizzle here at the moment. I will be at a meeting close to the University area later so I will fall past and report back on if it looks busy around that area.
If so, that shows why CCHQ was insistent on the later date: to get all those fired-up young anarcho-syndicalist students back home "wasting" their votes in safe seats.
Given the (understandable) tensions there have been over the 4% difference between leave/remain, what do we think the consequences for political discourse will be if the Tories 'beat' Labour by c.6-7% but we still have a hung Parliament and Corbyn leads a rainbow coalition?
A Labour victory "would be a blessing for the economy compared to Hard Brexit", according to Der Spiegel, apparently today.
And according to various City banks. Corbyn better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks as anti-capitalist Labour wins unlikely new City fans
Jeremy Corbyn, the scourge of bankers and avowed opponent of capitalism, is winning support from unexpected new quarters: two of the biggest global banks operating in the City of London are warming to the Labour leader.
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
Not allowed to do it iirc
I love election telling folklore. Of course you can ask. And they can refuse. Tellers ask for the polling number on the top. It’s the entire purpose of telling.
Is there really the same enthusiasm this time as there was in 2017, when there wasn't a surge in youth turnout. Even the rise in registration has been shown to be nothing but normal population growth.
No, it hasn't, since there is negligible population growth amongst those eligible to vote.
There's been no growth of the eligible population in two years?
Not much - certainly a magnitude less than the (projected) rise in the electorate. Most of our population growth has been immigration, mostly of ineligible GE voters.
So with Ipsos-MORI in we have 12 pollsters (if we count Qriously) and 10 of them have final poll leads outside the 'zone of uncertainty' (i.e. above 8%).
Lets suppose the "margin of error event" happens and both the tories are down 3 and Labour are up 3 points. That makes a GB-con lead of 3 or four %points, which is easily in hung parliament teritory.
But if we have 12 pollsters, assuming their results are unbiased, the margin of error of the average would go down below 1 point, wouldn't it?
But still I take your earlier point that there is significant uncertainty from other sources.
None of the last polls show them losing ground . They’ve either remained static or gained a few points .
For further straw clutching , apparently there’s more danger of the Tories underperforming than over because their vote is made up of a large amount of BP and UKIP voters .
That group were overestimated in both the 2017 GE and 2019 Euro elections , and their voters didn’t come out as they suggested they would in the polling .
Boris 14% lead (43-29) on most capable PM in Ipsos Mori.
Is that all.
Both of Mrs BJs Carers were 2 of the WASPi women I did a calculation for a while ago.
Both normally Tory.
Both already voted Lab by the time they arrived
£28k and £10k.
One reckons she has persuaded lots of her mates too.
Perhaps Yoof and WASPI could mitigate Lab. losses.
It will be fascinating to analyze whether the WASPI pledge made a difference. It is a HUGE financial incentive for a section of society that normally vote Tory.
It's the kind of financial benefit from one party winning that's normally reserved for the mega-rich benefiting from Tory tax cuts.
The worst thing about the tory victory is another 5 years of HYUFD gargling Boris' shaft on here.
Do you not remeber when Le Pen got absolutely smashed. HYUFD still spent a month explaining why actually she did really well and how under a completely different voting system she would totally have won?
Genuine question to those who think there will be a hung parliament.
As I see it, there were two main reasons why we got to the result we did last time compared to expectations:
A very large shift (mainly increase in the Labour position) in the polls during the campaign.
The final polls underestimated Labours position by a few points.
This time, there hasn't been such a shift and I expect the polling companies to have made adjustments to avoid the understatement of Labour. In fact, you could argue that history suggests they tend to overcorrect.
So, why should there be a hung parliament this time? Is it just because people think that a 7-8% lead won't be enough for a majority, or do people think that it is going to be a lot closer than that? If so, why?
I'm not sure what I'm missing.
They have, but there's three unique factors - both Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson are electoral poison for different groups, more so than in 2017, two rival groups view either preventing Corbyn or Brexit as a national emergency, and both youth turnout and the undecided voters seem even higher than last time.
On the other side, the postal votes will favour the Tories, having been put in mainly when the Tories were performing slightly more strongly, the polling companies have updated their methods - whether sufficiently or not, I'm not quite sure, and Johnson has run a better campaign than May.
Hence I think Hung Parliament to 30 seats majority for the Tories is a reasonable prediction.
Given the (understandable) tensions there have been over the 4% difference between leave/remain, what do we think the consequences for political discourse will be if the Tories 'beat' Labour by c.6-7% but we still have a hung Parliament and Corbyn leads a rainbow coalition?
Horrid ! I can only imagine the right wing press going into meltdown .
Genuine question to those who think there will be a hung parliament.
As I see it, there were two main reasons why we got to the result we did last time compared to expectations:
A very large shift (mainly increase in the Labour position) in the polls during the campaign.
The final polls underestimated Labours position by a few points.
This time, there hasn't been such a shift and I expect the polling companies to have made adjustments to avoid the understatement of Labour. In fact, you could argue that history suggests they tend to overcorrect.
So, why should there be a hung parliament this time? Is it just because people think that a 7-8% lead won't be enough for a majority, or do people think that it is going to be a lot closer than that? If so, why?
I'm not sure what I'm missing.
Lab up by 10 in the campaign.
The day Nigel stood down all his candidates in Tory areas is the day Jester majority became a near certainty.
Trying to think of reasons to keep positive in the face of a probable Tory majority:
1. Farage is surely history. 2. Corbyn likewise hopefully. 3. Tories will have to own the fact that Brexit is more complicated than simply leaving in 31 Jan. 4. There’s a recession coming - the Tories might as well cop the blame for it.
(Hard to turn 'there's a recession coming' into a positive but you can only work with the material available.)
If labour replace Corbyn with someone sensible then I promise not to vote for Steve Baker next time.
You voted for Steve Baker
That’s how much I don’t want a Corbyn government. I was not happy about it. If I could have trusted the polls then I would have voted Lib Dem, but after last time I couldn’t take the risk.
From Lib Dem to the king of Hard Brexit. That's a hell of a journey.
Any one but Labour.
Steve Baker is just as likely to vote against Boris’s deal as a Lib Dem now I think about it.
Politically I’m not too far from the Lib Dems apart from their Europhillia.
Given the (understandable) tensions there have been over the 4% difference between leave/remain, what do we think the consequences for political discourse will be if the Tories 'beat' Labour by c.6-7% but we still have a hung Parliament and Corbyn leads a rainbow coalition?
So with Ipsos-MORI in we have 12 pollsters (if we count Qriously) and 10 of them have final poll leads outside the 'zone of uncertainty' (i.e. above 8%).
Lets suppose the "margin of error event" happens and both the tories are down 3 and Labour are up 3 points. That makes a GB-con lead of 3 or four %points, which is easily in hung parliament teritory.
Given the vast resources the researchers will have thrown at their polling, it must be very unlikely, statistically speaking, that they collectively would be 3% out both ways.
Boris 14% lead (43-29) on most capable PM in Ipsos Mori.
Is that all.
Both of Mrs BJs Carers were 2 of the WASPi women I did a calculation for a while ago.
Both normally Tory.
Both already voted Lab by the time they arrived
£28k and £10k.
One reckons she has persuaded lots of her mates too.
Perhaps Yoof and WASPI could mitigate Lab. losses.
For someone who by his own admission was resolutely opposed to so-called WASPI, you appear to have been remarkably converted to the cause! Btw, what happens to the benefits of those women who sadly have passed away during the interim period - will their would-be WASPI benefits be paid instead to their survivors, and will their benefits be as equally un-costed by Labour as those to be paid to those who are still alive?
I'm hearing all the rubbish bins in Uxbridge polling stations are being removed, after the Returning Officer deemed them 'Prohibited Political Advertising' for Count Binface.
I saw on Twitter last night that 3000 postal voters will have died by the time the results are announced.
There will quite possibly be ballot box voters who are dead by the time the results are announced.
If you get into a fatal road traffic accident on the way back from voting it doesn't void your ballot.
Agree - just a fascinating stat.
By the same token, probably a low four-figures number will have turned 18 and now be ‘nominally’ eligible.
If you turn 18 on the day you are 'actually' eligible.
Even if you haven’t registered?
No, but then you can (and should) be on the register at 17 and in some cases 16, with your 18th birthday date against the entry.
On one of the other thread topics, tagging such people as young and keeping the tagging over a number of years is how election software identifies them as such.
I had high hopes of overturning that 30,000 majority. In 2017 turnout was 72% there But if Labour are polling high there perhaps they are polling low where they actually need it.
Don't forget you were telling me earlier what happened on referendum day...
Oops - not only are they on the wrong feet, but they appear to be two different types of shoe.
Maybe she was just rushed into a photo-op and just jammed her feet into whatever was handy?
To be fair I once tried one shoe on and thought I’d take it, looked in the boxes to find the other one, six months later one of my friends asked me if I knew I had odd shoes on, was always tempted to go back and find the other ‘pair’
I'm hearing all the rubbish bins in Uxbridge polling stations are being removed, after the Returning Officer deemed them 'Prohibited Political Advertising' for Count Binface.
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
Not allowed to do it iirc
I love election telling folklore. Of course you can ask. And they can refuse. Tellers ask for the polling number on the top. It’s the entire purpose of telling.
The issue is seeking to influence a voter within the precinct of a polling station. Most presiding officers, if pushed, would take the view that trying to speak to them at all on the way in is behaviour best avoided.
Live opposite a Polling station. It's wet & windy but have never seen so many people at this time, the road is jammed & the police have come to sort it out.
Betfair has just paid out on the timing of the general election market. Heaven knows why they had to wait until today.
In case HMQ passed away and then in case King Charles III passed away within the following fortnight.
If HMQ passes away today does the election still get postponed or is it too late now?
The risky moment is when she gets told Bozo is going to be her PM for the next five years.
If she could handle the disappointment and scandals of Charlie and Andy I am sure she will manage to deal with Boris (although she may mistake his puppy for an assistance dog).
If a few polls had much smaller final poll leads for the Tories then it’s possible a hung parliament could happen .
Apart from Savanta Comres which is a bit older compared to the others that’s not happened .
I think though there’s still a huge variation on the size of the Tory majority .
The BP pulling out of those Tory seats has inflated their margins there , also how much squeeze will happen to the Lib Dems by Labour .
For us to see a hung parliament I think that would go down as a huge polling disaster . People say the EU ref was a shock but many polls had Leave ahead .
When I went to vote a man with a blue rosette asked me if I had my polling card on the way in. I've never been asked that before by a campaigner, is that normal?
Yes, it's so they can mark you off their canvass lists. If you haven't been canvassed, of course, it's entirely pointless.
I have but they won't know I've voted then since I didn't give him my address right? Or can they see the marked register inside?
A good teller should try to get an address from someone without their number, then mark male or female so whoever is doing the input can try and deduce the voter. The marked register is out of bounds to campaigners on the day - but is published some time afterwards (that whether people have voted or not is public information is the one election fact that ordinary people find the most surprising)
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I wonder if today 'might' spell the end of opinion polling.
Happy days.....
Interesting that the Lib Dems are on 12% compared to the earlier Survation poll which was a horror show at 9% .
I voted in Thornbury and Yate this morning where voting was ‘brisk’ and I have just travelled down the m5 and a38 to Plymouth. It rained heavily most of the way but there is just a light drizzle here at the moment. I will be at a meeting close to the University area later so I will fall past and report back on if it looks busy around that area.
If I could have trusted the polls then I would have voted Lib Dem, but after last time I couldn’t take the risk.
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/ipsos-mori-final-election-poll-predicts-conservative-victory
An election to remember. All the Ashfield Election fun and taking her clothes to the Salvation Army after voting.
And then much of my region potentially changing its political coat for the next decade or three, in the meantime culling Corbyn's racists.
I've genuinely no idea how that will work out. And will they remember who they actually voted for in the first post-GE poll?
Of course most Betfair movements are nonsense but I'll cling on to anything as a way of telling the result.
Both of Mrs BJs Carers were 2 of the WASPi women I did a calculation for a while ago.
Both normally Tory.
Both already voted Lab by the time they arrived
£28k and £10k.
One reckons she has persuaded lots of her mates too.
Perhaps Yoof and WASPI could mitigate Lab. losses.
As I see it, there were two main reasons why we got to the result we did last time compared to expectations:
A very large shift (mainly increase in the Labour position) in the polls during the campaign.
The final polls underestimated Labours position by a few points.
This time, there hasn't been such a shift and I expect the polling companies to have made adjustments to avoid the understatement of Labour. In fact, you could argue that history suggests they tend to overcorrect.
So, why should there be a hung parliament this time? Is it just because people think that a 7-8% lead won't be enough for a majority, or do people think that it is going to be a lot closer than that? If so, why?
I'm not sure what I'm missing.
If anyone mentioned to the Presiding Officer that one of the tellers spoke to them on the way in and they were unhappy with it, s/he would surely pop out to have a word.
That level of softness in the LibDem vote shows just how badly they've messed it up. Jo Swansong is going to have some serious questions to answer.
WillS.
Great fun this
Corbyn better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks as anti-capitalist Labour wins unlikely new City fans
Jeremy Corbyn, the scourge of bankers and avowed opponent of capitalism, is winning support from unexpected new quarters: two of the biggest global banks operating in the City of London are warming to the Labour leader.
Unlikely as it may seem, he is now seen as the lesser of two evils by analysts at Citibank and Deutsche Bank.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/09/03/corbyn-better-no-deal-brexit-say-investment-banks-anti-capitalist/
But still I take your earlier point that there is significant uncertainty from other sources.
None of the last polls show them losing ground . They’ve either remained static or gained a few points .
For further straw clutching , apparently there’s more danger of the Tories underperforming than over because their vote is made up of a large amount of BP and UKIP voters .
That group were overestimated in both the 2017 GE and 2019 Euro elections , and their voters didn’t come out as they suggested they would in the polling .
It is a HUGE financial incentive for a section of society that normally vote Tory.
It's the kind of financial benefit from one party winning that's normally reserved for the mega-rich benefiting from Tory tax cuts.
If you'd cast her ballot that would have been electoral fraud surely?
I wonder if that happens much and if it gets investigated.
So what I'm saying is defeat will not deter him.
On the other side, the postal votes will favour the Tories, having been put in mainly when the Tories were performing slightly more strongly, the polling companies have updated their methods - whether sufficiently or not, I'm not quite sure, and Johnson has run a better campaign than May.
Hence I think Hung Parliament to 30 seats majority for the Tories is a reasonable prediction.
On day of GE 2010 I was travelling north the day after my father's funeral.
I`m surprised it is this high.
Taking 1.43 side may provide yet more opportunities for trading gains with no more polls to come.
Maybe she was just rushed into a photo-op and just jammed her feet into whatever was handy?
(I've voted)
The day Nigel stood down all his candidates in Tory areas is the day Jester majority became a near certainty.
The former has not overturned the latter.
20-40 maj
https://twitter.com/thejoemellor/status/1205046837117358080?s=20
Steve Baker is just as likely to vote against Boris’s deal as a Lib Dem now I think about it.
Politically I’m not too far from the Lib Dems apart from their Europhillia.
Btw, what happens to the benefits of those women who sadly have passed away during the interim period - will their would-be WASPI benefits be paid instead to their survivors, and will their benefits be as equally un-costed by Labour as those to be paid to those who are still alive?
Count Binface.
My youngest's birthday is in May. She missed being able to vote in the 2015 election by a few days. She was not pleased...
On one of the other thread topics, tagging such people as young and keeping the tagging over a number of years is how election software identifies them as such.
Don't forget you were telling me earlier what happened on referendum day...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071533/Now-talking-stops-Britain-goes-polls-unpredictable-election-generation-one-four-don-t-know-vote-for.html
And the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/gallery/2016/jun/23/quirky-referendum-polling-stations-in-pictures
Live opposite a Polling station.
It's wet & windy but have never seen so many people at this time, the road is jammed & the police have come to sort it out.
Apart from Savanta Comres which is a bit older compared to the others that’s not happened .
I think though there’s still a huge variation on the size of the Tory majority .
The BP pulling out of those Tory seats has inflated their margins there , also how much squeeze will happen to the Lib Dems by Labour .
For us to see a hung parliament I think that would go down as a huge polling disaster . People say the EU ref was a shock but many polls had Leave ahead .