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    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Massively left wing audience

    It's QT. Virtually every episode is broadcast from a Labour seat. (I'd love to see the exact figures but I suspect 90%ish over the last 20 years)
    Because towns and cities have bigger venues and are easier for people to travel to.
    Easier, on balance, for Labour supporters to travel to than Tory supporters, yes. Older, rural demographics are almost certainly underrepresented.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,139
    Boris not shying away from taking positions - unlike "neutral on Brexit" Corbyn. Which is the big takeaway from this programme.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,419

    Pulpstar said:

    Massively left wing audience

    It's QT. Virtually every episode is broadcast from a Labour seat. (I'd love to see the exact figures but I suspect 90%ish over the last 20 years)
    I guess that's because large towns and cities tend to be more Labour.

    I do think audiences on QT, on a whole, are f***ing abysmal. The sort of people who go to these kind of things tend to be rather angry, partisan people, who aren't interested in hearing an answer - they just want to make a point. I'd far, far rather listen to a good interviewer.

    Sid Vicious was absolutely right on the subject of the man on the street.
    Because of course the typical non political person isn’t very likely to leave work early, miss their dinner, travel to a venue, suffer the parking or transport chaos, the queues and security checks, be kept sitting round in the studio while they get ready for the show, etc., and get back home late at night. It’s hard enough persuading politically active people to go.
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,989
    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    How do I know that this is not desperate spin?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,131
    kinabalu said:

    HYUFD said:

    He can manage perfectly well, he thinks on his feet unlike Corbyn

    He just blusters. Believes in nothing and the void becomes clear under scrutiny.
    He is not a fanatical ideologue likes Corbyn but produces practical solutions to problems
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,904
    humbugger said:

    Jonathan said:

    Bit rich to claim credit for female PMs when he systematically undermined the last one.

    Just remind us, how many have Labour had?
    None yet, but that does not change the fact Boris treated May appallingly.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,894
    HYUFD said:

    Boris doing very well, far better at empathy than May was

    Love is blind......
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,421
    bunnco said:

    Just tuned in. Which student union is hosting this one?

    University of Life.
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    Pulpstar said:

    I've got a lot of respect for Swinson after that. I think it was a horrendous audience for her but she categorically refused to go dow the Labour light adjunct

    It must have been a horrible experience for her.

    She got attacked by everyone.
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    maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,391
    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    If you're willing to say he started off OK, it must have been a very solid opening for him.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,131
    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    It is not desperate spin, the only desperate spin is coming from leftwingers desperately trying and failing to undermine Boris
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    BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Lot of Socialist doctors in this audience
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,952
    Toms said:

    No tele here, not ever.
    But I suspect it's much better reading PB comments.

    "And what's this? A walrus has invaded the stage! And he's...he's farting in Boris's face! Boris is being face-farted by a walrus, ladies and gentlemen! Full-on fat wobbly walrus fart! Oh, the humanity (sobs into microphone)"
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,374
    Blimey one particular employer is very well represented in this audience.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,403
    He's more on top of his brief which is allowing him the confidence to be calm and concede some points which gives a better impression.
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    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    It is not desperate spin, the only desperate spin is coming from leftwingers desperately trying and failing to undermine Boris
    Indeed. And none of then citing specifics.
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    Evening all and missed the QT having only got home a short time ago from appearing on the SKY News Path to Power programme at 5.30pm. Had a long blether with a Liberal friend earlier in the day. Very worried because on the doorstep they are encountering a sizeable move to the SCons over the "Revoke" policy which people dislike and think "undemocratic" and lots of comments, especially by women that Jo Swinson comes across as I have said, like a girl guide from Bearsden. Not confident about holding all 4 seats or taking Fife NE.
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    viewcode said:

    Toms said:

    No tele here, not ever.
    But I suspect it's much better reading PB comments.

    "And what's this? A walrus has invaded the stage! And he's...he's farting in Boris's face! Boris is being face-farted by a walrus, ladies and gentlemen! Full-on fat wobbly walrus fart! Oh, the humanity (sobs into microphone)"
    fail
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    Jonathan said:

    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    There are 80M people in this country,.

    Unless the country in question is Germany, no there isn't.
    Perhaps the extra 12 million are the rough sleepers and food bank users in Jonathan's village.
    Very good, you got me, you win PB. But the point stands these are not the four best people in the UK to be PM.
    Maybe we get the politicians we deserve.

    Or perhaps they were never any good but they're exposed more now because of modern media and the internet.
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    geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,176
    He has done pretty well with quite hostile questioning.
    But I would think that, wouldn't I?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,804
    viewcode said:

    Toms said:

    No tele here, not ever.
    But I suspect it's much better reading PB comments.

    "And what's this? A walrus has invaded the stage! And he's...he's farting in Boris's face! Boris is being face-farted by a walrus, ladies and gentlemen! Full-on fat wobbly walrus fart! Oh, the humanity (sobs into microphone)"
    Now BoZo is telling the Walrus that Leave means Leave...
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,419

    Pulpstar said:

    I've got a lot of respect for Swinson after that. I think it was a horrendous audience for her but she categorically refused to go dow the Labour light adjunct

    It must have been a horrible experience for her.

    She got attacked by everyone.
    She did have a hard time, but then tbf if the audience is balanced you’d expect 85%-ish of the audience to be against her, and both the parties know the LDs are a potential threat this time
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,139
    edited November 2019
    52% of the country voted for Brexit.

    About 5% of this audience did.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    Boris gets to end with a big Brexit speech.
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    Finished already!
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,989

    52% of the country voted for Brexit.

    About 5% of this audience did.

    Were they asked for a show of hands? :D
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    Boris did well there, given the audience...
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,894
    humbugger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    It is not desperate spin, the only desperate spin is coming from leftwingers desperately trying and failing to undermine Boris
    Indeed. And none of then citing specifics.
    What did he say about longest waiting lists worst ever A&E numbers worst ever cancer numbers that he was asked.

    Fook All
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,777
    edited November 2019
    Brexit is paralysing the country. There you have it. From the chief-Brexiteer.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,109
    He dodged a bullet there, no better than that. Tough gig
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,503
    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    kinabalu said:

    I hope the whole country is watching Johnson here. What a joke!

    I hope they are, Boris is doing brilliantly
    He lies when he moves his lips but so what he isn’t corbyn so not a problem
    My feelings exactly. And that is why I will vote Conservative.
    Honestly Nicomar, I'd love to have a party which valued competence, but my fear of Corbyn is too great to vote for anyone but the party most likely to keep them out. Sorry. Lamentably, it turns out that the left disappearing off over the horizon turns out not to be the opportunity for the centre that it might appear. The opportunity for the centre is when voters are disillusioned by the main parties but not terrified of them.
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    TOPPING said:

    He's more on top of his brief which is allowing him the confidence to be calm and concede some points which gives a better impression.

    Proper preparation and attention to detail never hurts.
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    BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Beardy socialist clearly telling Boris to fuck off at the end :smiley:
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,989

    Brexit is paralysing the country. There you have it. From the chief-Brexiteer.

    Cause Parliament can't decide what to do. Hence the election.
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    ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    Do we get any reaction from pollsters after?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,131
    Fantastic closure from Boris, to claps, his is the only party to enable Brexit to get done and address other things, the other 3 party leaders parties have all tried to frustrate Brexit
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    BBC already coming under fire apparently
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    IanB2 said:

    The remarkable thing about this election is how much, Brexit aside, the Overton window has shifted to the left.

    It's slightly more complex than that. The largest fraction of public opinion is a little to the left of centre economically and a little to the right of centre socially. A combination of more money for Our Beloved NHS (paid for by "the rich", defined as all persons earning at least one pound more per year than whichever voter one happens to be talking to at the time,) and tougher criminal sentencing and immigration controls.

    If the Tories do manage to win a majority at the end of all of this, it will be because they've convinced enough voters that they, personally, rather than "the rich" will have to pay for Labour's spending pledges, whilst advancing a far more convincing claim to occupy the social conservative centre ground.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,904

    Jonathan said:

    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    There are 80M people in this country,.

    Unless the country in question is Germany, no there isn't.
    Perhaps the extra 12 million are the rough sleepers and food bank users in Jonathan's village.
    Very good, you got me, you win PB. But the point stands these are not the four best people in the UK to be PM.
    Maybe we get the politicians we deserve.

    Or perhaps they were never any good but they're exposed more now because of modern media and the internet.
    When I reflect on the serious, talented people I work with in business and life more broadly, including here, you have to wonder what the hell happened to produce these four.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,374
    Think he did pretty well there. Still not exactly brief but much more direct.
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    ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    He did very well.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,419

    52% of the country voted for Brexit.

    About 5% of this audience did.

    Let’s hope those leavers are as motivated when it comes to the trip to the polling station.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,907

    BBC already coming under fire apparently

    From whom?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,131

    humbugger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    It is not desperate spin, the only desperate spin is coming from leftwingers desperately trying and failing to undermine Boris
    Indeed. And none of then citing specifics.
    What did he say about longest waiting lists worst ever A&E numbers worst ever cancer numbers that he was asked.

    Fook All
    He is putting in more money and will have more money to put in further still when we get Brexit done
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    I thought Fiona Bruce did well .

    A very uncomfortable experience for all 4 leaders . I think this format is better than the debates .
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,927
    Charles said:

    HYUFD said:

    Who are the Waspie women, odd first question,?

    I haven't a clue either!
    Home - WASPI - Women Against State Pension Inequality
    https://www.waspi.co.uk
    I thought they were pro inequality - just in their favour
    Well, they're pro equality when it's in their favour, too.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,804
    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,109
    That idiot that wouldn't leave it was like a drunken coke head in the pub car park
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    ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    How many NHS staff were in that audience?
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    ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,013
    HYUFD said:

    Fantastic closure from Boris, to claps, his is the only party to enable Brexit to get done and address other things, the other 3 party leaders parties have all tried to frustrate Brexit

    Err... So did he!
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    Decent performance from Boris, no major fuck ups, he did better than I thought he would against a seriously hostile audience. Got that final crucial statement in.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,989
    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Sounds like he did well.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,952
    Cookie said:

    viewcode said:

    Foxy said:

    nico67 said:

    I do think revoke has backfired and the only chance of it succeeding was if Johnson didn’t get a deal and the election was being fought with that v Remain .

    I think she got a boner when she saw the 6 million signatures on the Revoke petition.

    It was a lot of people expressing their desire to reverse Brexit but she took it literally.
    A significant majority of LD members joined since the referendum, and often specifically to Remain. The party wanted the Revoke policy. I agree that any policy that is as difficult to explain on the doorstep is bad as a leading policy. It is like the hubris of stating she could be PM, technically true but ridiculously unlikely.
    And LD leavers like myself were effectively forced out.
    "He's here! He's here, everybody! Over here!"

    (In the distance the helicopter searchlights wheel towards the noise... )
    Once upon a time there were many such people. Consider the traditional heartland of liberalism in tge Eurosceptic south west. I remember hearing a vox pop at tge 1997 GE of a LD voter who justified his choice on the grounds that they were the only party who would stand up to Europe.
    Quite forlorn, really. One thinks one has a handle on politics, then twenty years later everybody thinks something different.
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    Much better than Tuesday's debate.
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    There are 80M people in this country,.

    Unless the country in question is Germany, no there isn't.
    Perhaps the extra 12 million are the rough sleepers and food bank users in Jonathan's village.
    Very good, you got me, you win PB. But the point stands these are not the four best people in the UK to be PM.
    Maybe we get the politicians we deserve.

    Or perhaps they were never any good but they're exposed more now because of modern media and the internet.
    When I reflect on the serious, talented people I work with in business and life more broadly, including here, you have to wonder what the hell happened to produce these four.
    Blame it on friction, a manifestation of the second law of thermodynamics.
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    ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    RobD said:

    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Sounds like he did well.
    He was calm, measured and answered people directly,
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,109
    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Lol. I bet Jo did really super well too?
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,952
    Toms said:

    viewcode said:

    Toms said:

    No tele here, not ever.
    But I suspect it's much better reading PB comments.

    "And what's this? A walrus has invaded the stage! And he's...he's farting in Boris's face! Boris is being face-farted by a walrus, ladies and gentlemen! Full-on fat wobbly walrus fart! Oh, the humanity (sobs into microphone)"
    fail
    Rule of Funny (the Roger Rabbit defence).
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    edited November 2019
    He wasn't as badly rogered as I thought he would be..for once he fronted up.
    Obviously on the back foot as the audience were a bit like facing Holding Marshall and Garner from the 80s
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Brom said:

    Beardy socialist clearly telling Boris to fuck off at the end :smiley:

    its that kinder gentler politics
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,989
    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Doesn't show much leadership, does it?
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    XtrainXtrain Posts: 338
    RobD said:

    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    How do I know that this is not desperate spin?
    It is.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,403
    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Disagree. He remained calm and engaging, unlike Jezza who all but scolded those who confronted him.

    Didn't watch the other two, which is possibly an indicator of their electoral prospects.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,139
    edited November 2019
    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Really not. I mean - really, really not.

    He did OK - against a massively hostile audience that the format always ensured.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    So who is going to campaign for his deal? If the answer is nobody then it won't be a remotely credible referendum.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,991
    kinabalu said:

    I hope the whole country is watching Johnson here. What a joke!

    I'm not watching but even bjo said he was doing ok
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Yes - by pissing off both halves.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,777
    RobD said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Doesn't show much leadership, does it?
    It's the Harold Wilson strategy.
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    XtrainXtrain Posts: 338
    I forgot it was on and watched RU Pauls Drag Race UK Final on catch up.
    Vivienne was a worthy winner.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Cookie said:

    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    kinabalu said:

    I hope the whole country is watching Johnson here. What a joke!

    I hope they are, Boris is doing brilliantly
    He lies when he moves his lips but so what he isn’t corbyn so not a problem
    My feelings exactly. And that is why I will vote Conservative.
    Honestly Nicomar, I'd love to have a party which valued competence, but my fear of Corbyn is too great to vote for anyone but the party most likely to keep them out. Sorry. Lamentably, it turns out that the left disappearing off over the horizon turns out not to be the opportunity for the centre that it might appear. The opportunity for the centre is when voters are disillusioned by the main parties but not terrified of them.
    My possibly last vote will go lib dem but labour are not going to win or even come close their back to the seventies policies on nationalization and union rights are a disaster, Johnson is an amoral self interested lier and if anyone thinks the tories will solve the key issues of housing, homelessness, education equality and the NHS is self deluding. It’s vote Tory, protect your personal pile rather than any altruistic motive.
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    XtrainXtrain Posts: 338
    Am just catching up on here for the lowlights.
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    maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,391
    Pidcock seems to have doubled in size since I last saw her. Being an MP is not a healthy lifestyle
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    edited November 2019
    Seems like the major thing that will come out of this is Corbyn's Brexit fence-sitting. It shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone, he's a stubborn old coot, but you can imagine it'll get plenty of media attention.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,894

    The problem is Swinson is getting shit from all sides. And is still copping flak for the coalition years, which is very telling. Very little support for her here.

    Feel sorry for her.

    But more important is how five million people see her at home.

    She’s knocked the shrillness on the head, appeared reasonable and open in admitting coalition mistakes - and against some grumpy Corbynites who look like they’ve been sucking lemons, she’s put up a good show for the Waitrose classes in the south.
    She is indeed a trooper and there's no doubt she's facing a hostile audience but it's only when you face an audience like this that you see the holes in your arguments. She suffers from not having the articulacy of Nicola. She's coming over as Boris- lite which is an awful place to be for a party with 'liberal' in the title.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,991
    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    It depends what people want. Plenty of people want him to be unequivocally for or against.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    You were watching something different to me then...I've seen many a car crash and that wasnt one of them.
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Artist said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    So who is going to campaign for his deal? If the answer is nobody then it won't be a remotely credible referendum.
    I understand your point but Corbyn couching that as trying to bring the country together isn’t a bad message .

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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,109
    edited November 2019
    One of Boris' tormentors appeared in I, Daniel Blake
    Not that that disentitles him to a view of course
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,952

    RobD said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Doesn't show much leadership, does it?
    It's the Harold Wilson strategy.
    [Deleted. Not enough walruses]
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,139
    IanB2 said:

    52% of the country voted for Brexit.

    About 5% of this audience did.

    Let’s hope those leavers are as motivated when it comes to the trip to the polling station.
    If they are, then Boris gets a monster majority.
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    Jason said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Yes - by pissing off both halves.
    I suspect a large part of Labours problem is they promised leavers they would respect the referendum result in 2017 when they had no intention of doing so. That lie is coming back to bite them hard.
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    BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    It’s weak leadership and dishonest. Clearly he has a view like everyone but won’t tell us. It also demeans his deal if he doesn’t value it enough to support it publicly.
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    What percentage of the population are Doctors? How did they get passed any representation filter? I would safely say White Van Man was very underrepresented. Despite the obvious bias, Boris played it well under pressure.
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    So Corbyn has admitted he's travelling in a Leave direction.

    He campaigned for Remain in 2016, and now he'd just be neutral.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,139

    One of Boris' tormentors appeared in I, Daniel Blake
    Not that that disentitles him to a view of course

    Her.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,419

    What percentage of the population are Doctors? How did they get passed any representation filter? I would safely say White Van Man was very underrepresented. Despite the obvious bias, Boris played it well under pressure.

    They were all out earning their £80,000
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    Really not. I mean - really, really not.

    He did OK - against a massively hostile audience that the format always ensured.
    The audience was not massively hostile to Johnson unlike the coordinated attempt to attack Swinson I have to assume sensible lib dems we’re out canvassing and delivering leaflets.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,894
    I'm watching it late. It's Johnson they booed not Swinson!
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    eggegg Posts: 1,749

    Boris not shying away from taking positions - unlike "neutral on Brexit" Corbyn. Which is the big takeaway from this programme.

    You saying it definitely can’t work when it definitely did for Wilson.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,894
    Andy_JS said:

    BBC already coming under fire apparently

    From whom?
    Big G
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    eggegg Posts: 1,749
    Jason said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    Yes - by pissing off both halves.
    United in something. Total genius.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,419
    timmo said:

    Foxy said:

    Car crash for Bozo. All the leaders got some hostile questioning, but he really cannot handle it. He is so needy, that he cannot bear not being liked. It is why he tells different audiences different things.

    You were watching something different to me then...I've seen many a car crash and that wasnt one of them.
    No, it wasn’t a car crash. I don’t think Bozo comes across well but then I don’t like him.

    His weakest moment was his claim that his offensive past writings and comments “could be made to seem offensive” rather than were actually so. He was lucky to get away without any comeback on that.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,109

    One of Boris' tormentors appeared in I, Daniel Blake
    Not that that disentitles him to a view of course

    Her.
    Was it the Corrie Actress?
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    welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,460
    Xtrain said:

    I forgot it was on and watched RU Pauls Drag Race UK Final on catch up.
    Vivienne was a worthy winner.

    In fairness I thought the one with the blonde wig “sashayed away” pretty well at the end. Didn't fall off the podium like that Edwina in 2015. Or am I confusing channels?😉
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,894
    edited November 2019
    HYUFD said:

    humbugger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    This crowd are brutal , shame for Bozo he’s on last . More people will be watching .

    Many will have turned over for Corrie but he is doing very well anyway
    This is desperate spin , he started off okay and has gone downhill ever since .
    It is not desperate spin, the only desperate spin is coming from leftwingers desperately trying and failing to undermine Boris
    Indeed. And none of then citing specifics.
    What did he say about longest waiting lists worst ever A&E numbers worst ever cancer numbers that he was asked.

    Fook All
    He is putting in more money and will have more money to put in further still when we get Brexit done
    9 years of cuts whilst top rate taxpayers have a bonanza.

    Real Change is needed.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,991
    edited November 2019
    nico67 said:

    Artist said:

    nico67 said:

    I thought Corbyns answer on Brexit is fair . Surely that’s the only way you don’t piss off half the country .

    So who is going to campaign for his deal? If the answer is nobody then it won't be a remotely credible referendum.
    I understand your point but Corbyn couching that as trying to bring the country together isn’t a bad message .

    But it's a nonsense message - that wont bring the country together anymore than picking a side would. It sounds reasonable at first until its thought about.

    And what happened 40 years ago is not a guide- clearly he thought it acceptable to take a view 3 years ago so hes not about being neutral on this issue as a matter of principle.
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