Audience absolutely stacked with Labour activists. Some called to speak didn't even ask a question, just gave a socialist speech
It does seem unbalanced
Makes up for all BBC journalist being Tories!!
You really are deluded if you believe that.
@bbclaura minister for propaganda. Marr Tory Newsnight edited by a Tory Maitless Tory A Neil Tory.
You said all BBC journalists. You could have have said most, or many, or all the prominent ones, but you didn't. you made a deliberately preposterous claim.
Be honest. Is there any format to which Boris is suited? If he wasn't up against an old-school Socialist terrorist-fiddler with polices that would make Marx wince, you'd be looking at the other parties right now. He doesn't have to be good. He just has to be better than the competition.
Which he isn't.
He hasn't commemorated Jew-killers or invited terrorists to parliament immediately after they killed government ministers, so yes, he is.
Be honest. Is there any format to which Boris is suited? If he wasn't up against an old-school Socialist terrorist-fiddler with polices that would make Marx wince, you'd be looking at the other parties right now. He doesn't have to be good. He just has to be better than the competition.
Which he isn't.
Correct, the reason why Boris is ahead is because the others are even worse,.
anyone thinking of playing the Labour seats O/U market, there is a bit of difference between the bookie's lines right now. 365 have their line at 200.5. Paddys at 208.5. 5/6 both sides for each.
Regardless of the result of this election it's truly scary that 30% of the electorate are up for voting for a Marxist manifesto.
It’s not a Marxist manifesto.
Err, yes it is.
Yes it is - it would be a disaster
The nationalization plans and return to 70’s style trade union rights coupled with the lunatic proposals of sector wide collective bargaining is what destroys their manifesto.it detracts from those things that people could sign up to quite willingly as yet again the current Labour Party sell those that need it most down the river as there will not be a labour government.
Audience absolutely stacked with Labour activists. Some called to speak didn't even ask a question, just gave a socialist speech
It does seem unbalanced
Makes up for all BBC journalist being Tories!!
You really are deluded if you believe that.
@bbclaura minister for propaganda. Marr Tory Newsnight edited by a Tory Maitless Tory A Neil Tory.
You said all BBC journalists. You could have have said most, or many, or all the prominent ones, but you didn't. you made a deliberately preposterous claim.
And Corbyn acknowledges Marriage Allowance removal - now will the media finally pick up on it?
Most people don't even know if they claim it or not.
That makes it ok then?
Are you talking about the transfer of 1200 of the others unused allowance which gives you all of 240?
This allows basic rate taxpayers an extra £240 per annum if their spouse does not earn enough to use up their personal allowance. Many taking advantage of this are married couples with young children, and this is a very important relief for them. You might sneer, but that says more about you than the recipients of the marriage tax allowance.
Ok but it is 20 pounds a month and to benefit from it you need to be earning more than £13,200. A lot of people don’t know how to claim it or know it exists
Audience absolutely stacked with Labour activists. Some called to speak didn't even ask a question, just gave a socialist speech
Did some really not ask a question? That doesn't seem right at all.
I turned on for 5 minutes and one audience member seemed to just be defending Corbyn being neutral on the referendum. I suppose it may have been that he had asked a question earlier, and was following up, but I'd have thought that it was Corbyns job to defend himself, not the audiences.
And Corbyn acknowledges Marriage Allowance removal - now will the media finally pick up on it?
Most people don't even know if they claim it or not.
That makes it ok then?
Are you talking about the transfer of 1200 of the others unused allowance which gives you all of 240?
This allows basic rate taxpayers an extra £240 per annum if their spouse does not earn enough to use up their personal allowance. Many taking advantage of this are married couples with young children, and this is a very important relief for them. You might sneer, but that says more about you than the recipients of the marriage tax allowance.
Twenty quid a month is a lot of money to many families. Its your water bill, or your broadband, or it covers some groceries. Corbyn is taking it away because 'hmmmmm, dunno, some shit about equality' You're quite right that the sneering is repulsive, from people who no doubt dont have to budget for every penny. The same crap response we had to Gordons 10p fiasco
Audience absolutely stacked with Labour activists. Some called to speak didn't even ask a question, just gave a socialist speech
It does seem unbalanced
Makes up for all BBC journalist being Tories!!
You really are deluded if you believe that.
@bbclaura minister for propaganda. Marr Tory Newsnight edited by a Tory Maitless Tory A Neil Tory.
You said all BBC journalists. You could have have said most, or many, or all the prominent ones, but you didn't. you made a deliberately preposterous claim.
You mention Marr there - who started his political life as a Trotsykyite. You fail to mention Evan Davis who is avowedly left wing - but also an excellent journalist and presenter. Or Paul Mason, former economics editor at the BBC and also extremely left wing - and also quite mad. There are many, many more that could be mentioned but of course you don't care about them because they don't fit your own blinkered world view.
I hope Boris has brought his kevlar vest with him tonight. My God that's a tough audience, but the vast majority of them are anti Tory. Corbyn was skewered over the Ruth Smeeth thing, Brexit and especially indyref2. Sturgeon very impressive, and she would play Corbyn like a cheap banjo in a coalition government.
And Corbyn acknowledges Marriage Allowance removal - now will the media finally pick up on it?
That is ridiculous. Why should a family with one partner earning 10k and the other 50k pay more tax than one where both partners earn 30k?
Individuals pay income tax, not families. And it isn’t any business of the Revenue worrying about people’s conjugal circumstances. A fine opportunity to do some badly needed tax simplification and get rid of it.
Boris is in both the worse yet also best spot going last. Worst because he will leave the final.impression...best because he can counter what has gone on before unless he has been locked in a room with headphones on like from an episode of Mr and Mrs
Audience absolutely stacked with Labour activists. Some called to speak didn't even ask a question, just gave a socialist speech
It does seem unbalanced
Makes up for all BBC journalist being Tories!!
You really are deluded if you believe that.
@bbclaura minister for propaganda. Marr Tory Newsnight edited by a Tory Maitless Tory A Neil Tory.
You said all BBC journalists. You could have have said most, or many, or all the prominent ones, but you didn't. you made a deliberately preposterous claim.
You mention Marr there - who started his political life as a Trotsykyite. You fail to mention Evan Davis who is avowedly left wing - but also an excellent journalist and presenter. Or Paul Mason, former economics editor at the BBC and also extremely left wing - and also quite mad. There are many, many more that could be mentioned but of course you don't care about them because they don't fit your own blinkered world view.
Before his journalistic days at least, Evan Davis was extremely (economically) right wing. And a rabid Brexiter.
The married couples allowance, that's £20 a month, I guess I'll save more than that with my free broadband.
Every government puts up some taxes, but it's rare for a party to say so before an election. Have the Tories said which taxes they will increase?
It's even more unsual for a party to announce a tax rise that will only hit basic rate taxpayers and their spouses whilst claiming that only the top 5% will pay more tax.
I hope Boris has brought his kevlar vest with him tonight. My God that's a tough audience, but the vast majority of them are anti Tory. Corbyn was skewered over the Ruth Smeeth thing, Brexit and especially indyref2. Sturgeon very impressive, and she would play Corbyn like a cheap banjo in a coalition government.
I hope Boris has brought his kevlar vest with him tonight. My God that's a tough audience, but the vast majority of them are anti Tory. Corbyn was skewered over the Ruth Smeeth thing, Brexit and especially indyref2. Sturgeon very impressive, and she would play Corbyn like a cheap banjo in a coalition government.
Boris should lean into it: "You know what? I'm _not_ neutral, because leadership is about making real choices and following them through. Some of you will like my policy, others won't, but at least with me you're getting a leader, not a passenger".
The married couples allowance, that's £20 a month, I guess I'll save more than that with my free broadband.
Every government puts up some taxes, but it's rare for a party to say so before an election. Have the Tories said which taxes they will increase?
It's even more unsual for a party to announce a tax rise that will only hit basic rate taxpayers and their spouses whilst claiming that only the top 5% will pay more tax.
What do you call cognitive dissonance when it becomes normalised?
I take back what I said earlier. The BBC have messed this up royally. A thoroughly biased audience.
More likely to be Tory HQ that messed up, if indeed the audience is indeed unbalanced rather than differentially vocal, since I am sure the BBC shared out the invitations
I hope Boris has brought his kevlar vest with him tonight. My God that's a tough audience, but the vast majority of them are anti Tory. Corbyn was skewered over the Ruth Smeeth thing, Brexit and especially indyref2. Sturgeon very impressive, and she would play Corbyn like a cheap banjo in a coalition government.
Boris should lean into it: "You know what? I'm _not_ neutral, because leadership is about making real choices and following them through. Some of you will like my policy, others won't, but at least with me you're getting a leader, not a passenger".
Please God, let's hope he avoids the toe-curling, totally meaningless expression "You know what"
What is it with socialists? They all think that every individual's life must be micro managed by the state. When's the last time anyone heard a single politician mention personal responsibility? It's so very depressing.
I take back what I said earlier. The BBC have messed this up royally. A thoroughly biased audience.
It is not acceptable and needs to be reviewed by ofcom
Why?
It is biased and just wrong
You can’t really say that until the end. So far all of them have had warm applause on arrival, all had tough questions and arguments, and all won some applause from the audience. If Bozo manages the same (assuming he doesn’t make a complete mess of it) you can’t really allege bias
Good question would Spain admit Scotland to the EU with its own separatists and Scotland's debt too high for admittance too
The majority of English MP's voted to leave the EU in March & October. The only reason we are still members is Scotland. Why wouldn't England block Scotland from joining as a result?
I take back what I said earlier. The BBC have messed this up royally. A thoroughly biased audience.
More likely to be Tory HQ that messed up, if indeed the audience is indeed unbalanced rather than differentially vocal, since I am sure the BBC shared out the invitations
It’s very easy to dupe the producers I imagine. How can they check your background?
Corbyn was getting applause for every answer and Swinson is getting none. Not that I think this debate will have any effect on the polls.
The problem is Swinson is getting shit from all sides. And is still copping flak for the coalition years, which is very telling. Very little support for her here.
Boris is going to get butchered ..there will be a question on his personal.life and he just won't answer it which will make him.look really shifty again.
I take back what I said earlier. The BBC have messed this up royally. A thoroughly biased audience.
It is not acceptable and needs to be reviewed by ofcom
Why?
It is biased and just wrong
You can’t really say that until the end. So far all of them have had warm applause on arrival, all had tough questions and arguments, and all won some applause from the audience. If Bozo manages the same (assuming he doesn’t make a complete mess of it) you can’t really allege bias
Boris is going to get butchered ..there will be a question on his personal.life and he just won't answer it which will make him.look really shifty again.
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The State in your living room.
I criticise some from time to time for always questioning from the soft Left.
What does that tell you?
Its owned by a tax avoiding billionaire who wants to get even richer.
Oh and then failing to account for any of that in the 'grey book'?
My mum just said "I can't stand the c*w, there's something really irritating about her!"
You're quite right that the sneering is repulsive, from people who no doubt dont have to budget for every penny. The same crap response we had to Gordons 10p fiasco
Should have done that ages ago.
They have to earn less than 12000 a year to benefit
Every government puts up some taxes, but it's rare for a party to say so before an election. Have the Tories said which taxes they will increase?
Worst because he will leave the final.impression...best because he can counter what has gone on before unless he has been locked in a room with headphones on like from an episode of Mr and Mrs
Staggeringly good performance.
She's so prime ministerial.
She is being laughed at with 1st question
25% LD
25% Tory
25% SNP
Leave 52%
Remain 48%
Get her to stand down tonight and get Layla in might bring about a change of fortunes.
Otherwise 10% max.
Corbyn was getting applause for every answer and Swinson is getting none. Not that I think this debate will have any effect on the polls.
Feel sorry for her.